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Does anyone think it might be in a little box of tide?
Steve,I hear you'll sell anything!LOL!:)
What does Time and Tide have in common? "High" High Time, High Tide. High Time is another way of saying high noon. Its where the sun is the highest point of the day. High tide is the highest water level. Which means what is the highest point in St Paul? The old Water Tower in Highland Park hidden in a knitted hat.
I didnt mean look for it there, Im just saying the highest point in st paul is the old water tower. And youd want to stay away from the sledding hill because that is on the golf course. It all makes sense...wouldnt you all agree?
By scribey!!
I am a capitalist, Scribie.
TRIP OVER THE GOODS- Maybe a subliminal type message that refers to trip as a set of 3, as in maybe you can see the neon 3M sign from the medallion. Certainly bodes well for the Battle Creek suggestions people are making
How you doing Robb?
I think Como would be too obvious with the slide reference.
fool----never say never on 2 straight years. It might be the best way to throw people off. Como is still an option in my mind, no matter how much i don't think it is there.
Ian im angry, people keep getting into my names somehow and changing the name and password on me. GRrRRRRRR
I am a capitalist, Scribie.
I certainly can respect this!:)
Really off now before I get in trouble!
I could see the 1st bank " 1" from BC lower entrance off of 61 today...nobody there and gate was closed tho???
There are no rules that say Como couldn't be the place two years in a row. Why not?
It's in a tide box or a knitted holder. We will be tripping over the goods soon because all of the snow will be gone if we continue to have warm weather like today.
Agreed upon....como and bc are my top 2
Slow down Rusty, don't put Como on your short list yet.
THG...you need to put your book in " Bound to Be Read" 870 grand
Ya but I think the PP is smarter than this. I dont think its under the snow. They hid it under a max of 6 inches if that. And they can look ahead at the forecast and to tell ya the truth its going to upper 40's this weekend and rain. Bye bye snow.
THX...I hear the horn. You better get your jacket on.
the first clue is always so generic-it always says something about winter & then it just tells you if it's in st paul or ramsey co-the clues are written way before the hunt begins.
thought that it was a bit odd that they hid it there last year. they hid it there in 97 i think 4 years is too short of time. there are a lot of big parks that it has not been hidden in as much as como. such as phalen and mounds
Rust...I've thought about it, but the parking is bad around there.
hey THG..where is jake
todays clue, last line-" and you may trip over the goods" -it's on the ground
Fool, are you talking about Indian Mounds Park?
Judging by past years, the 4th clue is really the one where a good clue decipherer can get a heads up on the competition. Last year's 4th clue was the east-west part of Como and also led you to the playground. So I think clues 1-3 are "almost meaningless" as far as park location goes(there is always something you can relate the park to AFTER the hunt, probably more by coincidence however). Tonight's clue should let the proverbial cat out of the bag so to speak. By the way-I think the cat is in a knitted white bag this year. hehe
Snake..I saw him at lunch time. He's out with the film crew. Como.
DIGGERGIRL:I think it might be now-VERY GOOD.They often hide it inside another object.Once it was inside a White Castle box.
STRIKITRICH:Tha must be a helluva tide Lake Como has. I'm ruling out Como for the present-it's been there so often.
Good luck everyone. Gotta get back to work.
THG...since when is he a celebrity
someone earlier...suggested ' a hunters pride ' was another term for battle...
I think it is also in something knitted but not a bag, as in the clue it says brow, so Im thinking it a knitted hat, possibly a baby size one. Since the hat does cover your brows.
A battle like the Highlanders fought?
I also think that trip over the goods could mean that med is hidden inside of a log on the ground since no snow factor. Would be good clue that way
Cannot believe I have not heard a reference to Highland Park as of yet. Especially after Clue #2 refers to "knit" and "trek up"...My interpetation: Sottish knit and Star Trek..."beam me up"...who?...Sottie! of course.....now what is what is often referred to when we speak of Scotland? Their highlands....right? And where is the Scottish festival held each year? Highland!!! They have sliding hills there also...known for it! You are welcome!!!!
LL Good point...they didn't say stay off the golf courses either!!
What does Time and Tide have in common? "High" High Time, High Tide. High Time is another way of saying high noon. Its where the sun is the highest point of the day. High tide is the highest water level. Which means what is the highest point in St Paul? The old Water Tower in Highland Park hidden in a knitted hat.
I didnt mean look for it there, Im just saying the highest point in st paul is the old water tower. And youd want to stay away from the sledding hill because that is on the golf course. It all makes sense...wouldnt you all agree?
could be robb
I think TK said it best...tonights clue should shed some light!
Lady Loot, I hate to disagree, but if you haven't seen Highland mentioned numerous times here at the cooler, you haven't been here 5 minutes. It is by far in everyone's top 3 on this site. We just aren't sold on it yet, seems too obvious
Top 3 Choices
1. Highland 2. Hidden Falls 3. Cherokee
Someone last night mentioned Highland Hills or something with Highland in it. Can someone enlighten me on this park?
anyone see any grouops digging today??? any more than 1 or 2 people in places??
Where are all the people..I went to Hidden Falls..only the North side is open..also headed to Mound, Harriet, Fort Snelling, and Cherokee.
robb...its in bloomington hyland hills
Highland Hills is in Bloomington
does anyone know, has the treasure ever been found with just 3 or 4 clues?
There were 10 cars at Hidden Falls...the only place with any action.
Battle Creek was real quick last time...
think the earliest was 4 or 5
How much snow cover is left?
Oh, don't worry about the people, they will come in DROVES when this years cocoa-mocha clue comes out. People by nature are lazy and don't want to do the dirty work. However, once they are certain, you will be lucky to find a spot to dig.
So is everyone ruling out Como?
I didn't see anyone diggin at arl/ark, merrium, of phalen. a few at HF
Look outside!
'b the falls aye??
Thanks for the insight there..
took friday off & the kids dont have school so i will start digging thursday night
How about in a cave in battle creek park??
I would look outside, but I am 400 miles away, and I can't see that far.
Yeah the Falls are hoppin.
The soonest its ever been found was at clue 5. It was back in the 60's.
LMFAO EAgs....not much left 2-4 inches
Good luck hunting...where r u
como is deffinitly out it was there last year
I went to Highland last night... I'm not sure. Its certainly got some hills!
could do como again!!
-i think hidden falls cause another word for "trip" is "fall"
So does Downtown...and it is far away from trees
naaa i don't think they'd do that
never knew how long a few hours to the next clue could be...
Why not Digger
The soonest its ever been found was at clue 5. It was back in the 60's.
I know but they can hide it there again! They have done it before...I think its gotta be by the river.. (tide) and maybe able to see a clock when you stand in a certain area..( time )
Obviously lakes don't have tide...
LADY LOOT:My problem with Highland and most city parks is they don't really have what i would call 'woods',which is in the third clue.The original Battle Creek Park does however.
But that doesn't rule out Highland,Phalen or any park with a golf course,if the 'woods'are golf clubs rather than elements of a forest.If the prize is somewhere down the Highland hill,but away from the golf course-your points are well taken.
mean not como
you can see a lot of clocks from downtown
Right now to me the "Time and Tide" part is the the connection with High. High Time and High Tide. Highest point in St Paul.....Highlands old water tower.
JENNEE:Just kidding!
hmmm...
There are lots o woods @ Highland...forests
Eags,
Are you a KC resident?
Heather! Good to see ya. Can't wait for the next clue ! Should be a good one (I hope)
Why Hillcrest, Leah?
there are woods at almost all of the parks! they may not be huge but they're there
will not be in a DT park according to sundays PP nor will it be in/on Harriet Island
-i think it is hidden in a box of tide hin hint ***
Me2 is IN THE COOLER - brrrr. Hi everyone anyone heard from Jake in the past 3 hours?
Palindrome!!! 12221
BB:Not bad-unless "trip over" or "spark'mean something.I guess a clumsy oaf like me could trip over something while walking down the hill with the tower.
Is there a clock anywhere on any building-or is golf considered a time killer?
Randy...where in the guide...I can't find what you speak of???
last time it was in bc it was in a knitted pouch
I think it is important, too, that the PP says "st.paul"; not Maplewood, etc. but st.paul; we need to listen to mother
like the high tide idea
Not the guide...In sundays Pioneers Press Rules and included near the first clue!!
Checking it out
69...not to say The BC side in St. Paul...??thoughts?
just hope that the game doesn't end too soon
can someone give me the adress for the booksrore on grand? & the hours if you have them. thanks!
ruminator 1651 grand open til9
B-1, I'm a U.P. resident. Only been here 5 months, but I love it. But I do miss being in St. Paul during Winter Carnival time.
We all thought that last year about the St Paul side of BC-I think we were all at Hillcrest elementary??
thanks! i lost my book i probably should get a new one anyway mine was like 5 years old
Randy...Clue is in Metro Section...no rules though!
Randy---I think "mother" really means it when she says "st.paul"; BC is only 1/2 in St. Paul, so I don't think it is there. Remember to Listen to Mother!
SSP- If I always listened to my mother, I'd be in trouble! Never acomplish anything!
BTW--I'm SSP class o' 90--Artemis
In the past when the PP says something very direct about a clue, they meant what they said! SO I really think it is in a park that is "pure " St.Paul
The original Battle Creek park is an official city park-contrasted with a regional park.
And it still seems like the only park with any real woods-though some have been cut back in recent years.
why r we talkin bout mother????/
I am thinking of a ramsey co. park in st. paul...thoughts
Does anyone think the line "Show that carnival hunter's pride" has any signifcant? It seems odd.
TIA
But Marley, SSP of 69 was the great class!
Gollum- wear your button.
Has anyone ruled out any downtown parks? I kind of like the idea of spark being fireworks (Kellogg) or the Torchlight parade by chance?
Does anyone think the line "Show that carnival hunter's pride" has any signifcant? It seems odd.
TIA
69 mike madland here class of 71
was thinkin the same thing but maybe it's just to rhyme with slide?
the town sqaure has several water'falls' ..."trip"
What is the difference between "original" BC and current BC?
Gollum...someone earlier stated that the Rogets Thesaurus link ' hunters pride' with battle or high pitch.....perhaps battle Creek?? Or High insert park here
'*' Why not Downtown...
'down the hills' a lowpoint - downtown - by the river
My gosh, Snake!! Alot of us '69'ers would skip school and go Mediallion hunting; how about your class?
My Dad was class o '69!
whats your name 69
carl....I am just stating what THG said earlier on the DT and HI parks
Pride is defined the same way in my old Webster's Dict.
Hey all- The time and tide quote is by Alexander Pope, not Longfellow
Barb W. Class of '69; lived on North side of SSP above Concord St.
Though I like the idea of the medallion in a small box of Tide-there's another possibility.
Inside the box of Tide-the 'medallion'has been replaced by a paperback copy of A TIME TO KILL.Usually a picture of the medallion is shown in the paper.I didn't see it this year.
The finder gets to keep the paperback too.
anyone have any ideas on "far and wide"????
LL BELL - instant message me
Hey gang. Just got caught up on the last couple hundred posts........ jeepers! All I have to say is these clues are terrible! :)
Town Square Park is closed couple years ago!
SSP and Snake- Do you know Paul LaBrosse or Mary Benjamin (LaBrosse)? My parents 69 and 70
Pride could also be Lion's family; woods could also be street names: ie: elm, ash, etc.
thanx leelabell
Marley King? your the one with the bumper stickers right?
LL BELL email me or send me your email
Marley--I know Mary Benjamin, but knew Polly better; Polly was in our group; I saw her at Mall 'O America where I work; you can ask her about me.....
highland had a bit of traffic today..
Thanks, leelabell...something tells me that will be important info to keep in mind as we get more clues.
Anybuddy know the author of "knit your brows"...I think Shakespeare said something about "knitting up the raveled sleeve of care" but I'm not sure where the "knit your brows" saying came from.
Thanks Randy. I was thinking more like the carnival bottun. That would be the hunter's pride. To show your carnival button? so button would be a clue.
there were a few at Hazel Park as well...
the medallion has been in battle creek only 3 times. the first time was in the 50's the clues said st.paul. the next 2 times were in 1970 & 1995 & the clues said ramsey co
uh ok?
ian is the gps unit mobile?
Okay, Me2 - will do
Yes Me2 we have the bumper stickers, we'll be at the paper tonight, maybe Jake can pick you one up.
Hello all...so I see, it seems to be at Highland Park...I was wondering if you all mean the Highland Park across from the Jr. and Sr. High schools or the one in Bloomington somewhere?
"Hail the Vulc!!!" I think king Boreas is doing a really horrible job as the king of the north wind. Vulcans rule!! ---here comes summer!!
I got one from you at the pre-hash -they are awsome!
have you heard from Jake today? He was over here and then he went to Palace Pk. and then ?
Hello all...so I see, it seems to be at Highland Park...I was wondering if you all mean the Highland Park across from the Jr. and Sr. High schools or the one in Bloomington somewhere?
69:Forest St.goes north to Phalen,but I don't know if it goes all the way.
Not much about Phalen-but it has a golf course,where the 'woods' can be found.Just not in winter.
SSP- Crazy Aunt Polly! Gotta Love her! I will ask her
It's not in Bloomington unless St Paul just recently annexed it.
LL Bell - You Got Mail :)
Just got back from scoping out BC and Highland. I can see where both have a lot of hills to climb up and down. But I didn't see a clear place where you stay "down the hill, far from the woods" except maybe at BC by the water slide.
sry leelabel but it was longfellow who wrote of time and tide NOT alexander pope
MinneSoda:You can't fool me.you're Governor Jesse Ventura.
If the snow keeps melting it won't be hard to find if it is on the ground.
THG said Jake was at como w/ camera crew earlier
forest goes all the way to wheelock pkwy, where it ends up being a bus turnaround. on the opposite side of wheelock, is the phalen golf course.
WHATZ.UP
ahhh-well I know Jake sleeps because he was here-but it makes you wonder where that boy gets all that energy! hahahaha
He is not answering his cell!! I am gonna kill him! He has been steering me the wrong way for the past 24 hours making me doubt myself and I am gonna kill him!
-can anyone relate longfellow to anything?
What about the lower landing park along warner road...down the hills and well away from trees and along the river...
David Hubert...I am so not Jesse but thanks for trying.
Does Highland or BC have cross country skiing available?
Highlan does...at the 9-Hole Club House
-can anyone relate longfellow to anything?
Hey...I gotta JOE
GOGREENGO:Sounds like you were at the newer regional BCP,which is in Maplewood.It's not supposed to be hidden outside the city limits.
Me2- Lol- If you do talk to him before the next clue tell him to call/e-mail Me!!!
MiNneSoDa, Battle creek has X country Ski trails as well. They are Mountain bike trails in the summer. TREK is a mountain Bike brand.
Aside from the golf course, I thought Highland Park was just a field across from the JR. and SR. High schools. Am I mistaken??
CS...thanks for the info. I'll keep that in mind as well.
the park itself is actually on the other side of the golf curses from the schools, soda.
According to the following websites, it is Alexander Pope
http://www.stageleft.com.au/timetide.html
http://www.cj.5c.com/proverb/work/pbwork_01.htm
http://www.geocities.com/gfan28205/gstoryint/10.html
http://home.kimo.com.tw/gibranlee/pebbles.htm
Nice talking to you, Me2
I will catch you online tonight or at the paper.
Here's the Longfellow quote:
"Happy, thrice happy, every one Who sees his labor well begun, And not perplexed and multiplied, By idly waiting for time and tide!"
There's also one by Pope, which says "Time and tide wait for no man."
Warner is a good guess too..that park on warner, what do people think of that idea?
Also, Highland has water towers (tide) and battle creek has ponds (tide)
Will tell him MK - I think he is thinking he can just call me with the clue tonight to put online-but I am gonna be down at the PP myself- AND...Something would probly be wrong with my clue copying or presentation! -I get enough slack from my husband about presentation, let alone all of you! :)
DITTO - LL BELL
This begs the question, is there anything we can do with both names?
Do you have any clues on what the puck might be hidden in? How big is it?
I wonder if the medalli9on would fit inside a white Tide bottle cap? They are quite large. Can anyone tell me if Fort Selling is considered one of the parks? It's down by the river and has some nice clearings in the campground.
I think "Time to kill" is throwing us off a little. Here is a Hiking reference--- Hikers motto "leave only footprints, Take only memories and kill only time."
I think it is a mention of hiking trails no more.
FYI- The Saint Paul Winter Carnival will be making a few changes due to the lack of cold weather and snow. The Snow Maze and Ice Maze are canceled at Winter Carnival Park (Como Park). But don't worry, the Affinity Plus Giant Snow Slide and snow sculptures will be built!
No, Fort Snelling is not in St. Paul.
I don't think that fort snelling is part of it. I'm not sure though.
Does anybody besides myself think its at Mounds park
Jake does hahahaha
you could be on to something there, cs.
Why would you think it was in Mounds?
HIGHWOOD.HILLS?
What does Time and Tide have in common? "High" High Time, High Tide. High Time is another way of saying high noon. Its where the sun is the highest point of the day. High tide is the highest water level. Which means what is the highest point in St Paul? The old Water Tower in Highland Park hidden in a knitted hat.
I dont mean to look for it there, Im just saying the highest point in st paul is the old water tower. And youd want to stay away from the sledding hill because that is on the golf course. It all makes sense...wouldnt you all agree?
can the medallion be on a frisbee golf course, like at highland, because i know it can't be on a golf course
Hey, I just got back from scouting. Did anyone know that there is a circus school in highland park? Just thought it was interesting.
The mis. river is underneith Mounds park. Knit your brow, BROW means the edge of a cliff.
Check this out! There's a Longfellow street in BC!
Kitty, I heard about that somewhere - that is curious. How do you think it fits?
CS...thanks for the info. I'll keep that in mind as well.
I know someone who knows someone who knows someones grandson who is from the pioneer press and they said that it is someplace by a sewer line.
If it is in Highland park, I don't want it. That park is really bigger than it looks. It also has a few of the Hunt taboos. Water tower-keep off, Golf Courses-keep off, and not a lot of parking.
Eags:
It was Shakespeare.
????:
Yes, there is a mobile GPS.
hey guys, just got back from driving around. top three choices HARRIET island, 2-Battle creek, 3 Mounds Park. What do ya think?
CSsurf, you must not know highland too well. There is a huge parking lot you can park in and you can park along both sides of montreal ave is where that bridge is connecting both sides of the park.
I think you should eliminate Harriet--the rules explicitly state that it is not there.
Just heard the weather report for the weekend- highs in the upper 30's. Am afraid the hunt will go quickly once the park is nailed down!
What is the meaning on Trek?
I am thinking Battle Creek, But, None of the clues spell out a specific Park. So far we may have-- That It is in a St Paul Park, By Hiking trails and a sledding hill. In a clearing or open field. May be in something knitted. I know it is early but I am thinking it is going to be hard for this thing to go very long with 1-2 inches of snow.
Harriet island. Time to kill(the jail) time and tide(all the historic stuff esp. the science museum and tide goes with the river and st. paul yacht club or more general all the boats.
Battle creek. - trek is all the skiing that goes on esp. the cross-country skiers
LL BELL - Jake says he has been there for 2 hours today! besides a couple other parks today!-- That guy must go through $10,000 in gas! haha He said he figured that out earlier also--he is so funny kill kill kill...cha cha cha...
The rules say NOT harriet Island.
Okay, does anyone care that "time and tide" is a quote from Longfellow, and there's a Longfellow street in BC??
Does anyone want to team up?
don't know where it is.i don't even know where my pants are.
where does it say Harriet island, cuz i might have missed something?
Hey woffpac-you are #12345
COOL! :)
I like High time and High tide meaning HIGHLAND better.
The all the higher I can count too.
I've dug at Highland, wore my self out down there. You are right Robb it would be on that side of the park if it were there. I don't think the clues have been very specific as to any one park. Clues still could work at about four different parks.
jigga--click on rules at the top of this page.
or click on this link
http://www2.pioneerplanet.com/wintercarnival/rules.cfm
My first choice is Harriet, but Battle creek is closeing in on it.
Don't know how it really fits, but they do teach you how to walk the high wire.
what is everyone else thinking? Highland? Como? Hillcrest? cherokey,sp?? Langford?
CS- Are you digging in open spaces or near the trees?
Hi All!! Do you think that light a spark could mean it is hidden in a cigarette pack or match box?!?!? Just noodling........
I like the longfellow st in Battle Creek. It just takes a little of a stretch to get there. I don't know where it is. I don't see it on any of my maps.
IN.THE.HUNT.RULES
light a spark, the huge light at Mounds?
It's right by Battle Creek Elemenary school. A one block long street of off Ruth.
squeekers, thanx alot, my new number one is Battle creek, thanx for fillin me in. I appreciate it.
They won't hide it at Mounds anymore because it is a sacred burial ground......and they state in the rules that it won't be hidden at Harriet either.
MEDALLION.MASTER?
reasons it is at highland light a spark-has a fire ring brow means edge of cliff-edgecumb ave runs right through the park trek up and down every hill-has alot of hills work your brain-Highland highschool tide-referring to water, water tower carnival-thereis a circus there
Thanks wolffpac, I am going out there tonight to kick around a little of this slush. That is a very large open area.
Yea but I really think the mounds are fenced in pretty good, at it is a new clue writer, at least that is what people have been telling me. By the way is that true that there is a new clue writer? Anyone.
are there any tide pools/wave pools at any of the parks???
what did i do with my pants? any clues?
Battle Creek it is. I'm going to night. I'll have an update about that park as well. I need a reason to go and what to look for when i'm there. so does anybody have any suggestions for me PLEASE. Because i've been ripping my mind apart thinking its at Mounds Park, may be it is i dont know.
Wolfpac, is that you that thinks it is at Battle creek?
Highland has a pool....
I'm leaning more to Highland.
pool at highland, anyone also see the jordans woods on their map of st.paul? away from the woods at battle creek?
hey its mine, I agree with Battle creek a little more than the rest because "trek" meaning cross-country skiers
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