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I never claimed 675 was a joe. :) it was just coincidence.
that's 3.
But it looks kinda funny.
It's 3 what? You can't add em up thats not right!
http://maybe-you-have-to-do-this.blah/
nevermind scribe, 675 was yours.
I can't get the page.
there ya go allison.
3 joes by 10 all lined up in a row.
Now you just knock that off Ares!
goin around just makin up stuff.........it's despicable.....
http://its-not-a-real-web-page-its-just-me-trying-to-get-a-blue-font-instead-of-a-black-one.see/
By creating your own clues with a specific place in mind is a very good way to understand how a clue is comprised. I sent out mock clues to a number of searchers last year to see what they got out of them. It was interesting to all of us on what was the actual meaning of the clue and what was deciphered after 2 days of thinking it over. I find that same problem every year when the Press publishes the meanings of the clues and we had better meanings ourselves. I guess over thinking the clues is much more interesting, just disappointing in the end. (Kind of like the Vikings:) Happy Hunting
You really are a butthead Allison! LOL!
i'd be soiling myself if allison's links were to porno sites or something :).
ack. the streak ends at 3.
. http://so-i-wonder-how-this-will-look.hmm/
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Who was that voice out of the sky????
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You got it Ares!
It ws either the clue writer or someone who wants us to believe they were the clue writer. Maybe they want us to think that I'm not the clue writer by appearing. Or maybe you would see that ruse and think its too much of a coincidence that we were on at the same time. Or maybe I knew that you would see that coincidence, but think it was too obvious a ploy to be fooled by and thus believe that I really wasn't the clue writer...
But,but can't vampires be in the same place at the same time? Or are we supposed to think that just so we won't know who the clue writer really is?
Mr.Cluewriter,what do you think of the fencing ballerina pirates in the frogpond? I'm on to you!!!!
No, vampires can't be in the different places at the same time, which is what I think you meant. But then again, if we could, would I tell you?
Oh the humanity!! I am so confused!!!!!!
Lookit
Here
Is a palinajoe
and you got the palindrome joe scribe
Yes,yes I did!:)
Actually it wasn't a palinjoe. Backwards it would be 01701.
but she did get 10701.
Be back later,I got to go rest........27 you hear me??? REST!
10701 was the palinjoe, though Scribe did get that one too.
I got both! Stop bein so jealous Allison!
but i got the original joe. i had to work for it, but i got it. stop being so jealous, scribe! :-)
I liked your post AW #10703. Funny:)
-- No purchase is necessary to win. Photocopies, handwritten and/or online printouts of the published clues will be accepted. All contest rules and decisions are final. Employees and immediate family members of the Pioneer Press, its partners and the St. Paul Heritage Foundation are not eligible.
From the newspaper.
Of course I would mistype my own initials to again intentionally throw people off.
did i miss posts of someone accusing you of writing the clues again, allison? well, except of course for my own.
Seems like someone did recently. Can't remember if it was you or Scribe or someone else.
I think it was scribe, starting the vampire thread :). but you do have to admit, you've got a knack for clue-writing unmatched by the rest of us here.
Maybe I'll have to write another Mock Hunt then when this one is over.
Well, since my 1:00 pm, it appears the posts sum up to this: 1. Mr. Allison is the clue writer. I don't believe this, but he does write the best explanations I have ever seen. I believe he could come up with justification for it to be taped to the big flashin neon "1", with just one clue out!
2. Pirate Ballerinas are the key to this puzzle. Isn't it hard to pirouette on a wooden leg? ARRRRGH.
3. Batman villians are in league with Pirate Ballerinas.
Do I have it?
ahhh, too much slogging, not sure bout allison's theory bout not mentioning a "park", and its nogging at my mind. maybe, then the words "game and duel" are haunting me too. whens the parade?
WW--please explain tag line.
dave, that's pretty much it.
Joe to the world.....Time for a break for the Simpsons.
Has it been pointe-ed out yet that 'on your toes' could refer to ballet (Ordway adjacent to Rice)?
Hi all been digging this aft. Mostly at phalen a little at Prosperity park that is where my wife thinks it is. I am very happy to have her getting into it..
Digging is hard this year. I found that chopping was much faster.
Ares - i was playing with trains at the bandana square modil train mus. I would have prefered the bash but the kids weren't up for it.
Some thoughts while digging... Keep on your toes... either above ground hiding, or on/by slippery ground ice rink or lake...
duel is between 2 people like tennis, pitchers duel, horseshoes...
What the heck does June refer to??
Beloved is seen on tombstones alot could be a park by a cemetary
when did they start letting you actually play with the trains at bandana sq. new daddy?
You can play with the trains in the gift shop.
there are a lot of weddings in June. any other June angles out there?
Hay, DDave and New Daddy!
Say, wasn't there, one year, something in the clues about looking up, where The Med was hidden in what? A tree???? And The Writer(s) is saying if you "dig" you'll search forever...
I do believe the bold refers to above ground hiding, what with everything else. Maybe "June" izz just to rhyme with "soon".
Maybe I'll got bock to noodling Snoopy/Schultz and boxing/fencing. Can't tie Snoopy/Schultz into a park yet, but boxing I can and also fencing.
Maybe I'll just go join Bee in The Frog Pond.
Hmmm, could it be June rhymes with soon?
Allison - you might be onto something there.
June bugs are found in.............PARKS!!!!
We have four hours to go before the next clue gives us a bit more to gnaw on. I wonder if that clue will talk about golf courses and parks - or if we'll be as clueless as we are right now.
Dad and I went out to cruise the parks this afternoon. We actually saw people digging at Mounds, not in any other parks. We went by Battle Creek, Phalen, Mounds, Highland (on your toes = high? - but I think it's too soon to repeat there), and pretty much came home after that.
I got out of having to grocery shop, and I got Chinese food for dinner - heckuva deal!
Mounds might be considered high as it's up on from the river too.
Mom--you have Chinese food for dinner and you'll just want to go medallion hunting later.
yeah...the best time of the year is here again.
DD - Yup! LOL! But I'll probably want BOTH again later anyway!
well, big or small park this year? I'm thinking big.
I'm keeping an open mind to the possibility it might not be a park at all.
I agree with Terry--no mention of park in the first clue....!
well it kinda has to be because it cant be on private property right?
I'm liking the idea of somewhere other than a park as well. It's so unusual for them to not use the word...."park" in the clue.
But BOY is that gonna be hard, if we're all just out cruising the city! It certainly would make for a "much tougher duel"!
There is public lands that aren't parks. Of course the clue tonight could tell us park and then we can let this idea slide into oblivion.
There's lots of public property that is not a park. The traffic light at Grand and Snelling, for example....public property. It's just been *so long* since they've not put it in a park, I'm not sure how that will all work.
hi to everyone finally logged on lap top down all day going slogging see you later
don't know, the idea is a good one, but i thing people would disturb private property is it wasn't in a park
geez, i need to learn how to type!!
The Capital Mall is not a park.
Most rec centers are not parks but public lands.
There are ball fields that aren't in parks.
true. we should find out how many of the previous years clues actually use the word "park"
Do yu think there will be a tie-in with the 50th anniversary of the Hunt? or with Snoopy/Charles Schultz (st. paul native) or has that been hashed? just got home from wk and did not catch earlier postings.
I took the kids to the pool(near Phalen) and was looking in THE GUIDE while sitting in the hot tub. thats the way to hunt...
I know I know june probable just rhythms with June but we only got so much to work with and we have waited so long...
I was just clicking through all the first clues on the coolercrew.com website trying to analyze the same thing. I can't say anything very scientific, but I'd guess only about 7 of the past 10 actually mentioned "park" even when it was in a park.
New Daddy - Which pool is that?! Inquiring minds have got to know!
1990 when it was at Como, "park" wasn't mentioned at all...
Dunning field would be one example of a non-park public land. There are others I'm finding that aren't "parks" but could handle a dig.
1994 - 2000 all use the word "park" in the 1st or second clue. my guess is it will appear tonight. if not, i'll definately go with terry's idea
At least we didn't get another Viking's Depression clue for the first one this year.
we REALLY should have gotten one of those this year!!
how is this the 50th hunt when it began in 1952?
It's the 50th time the hunt has gone on. In 2002 it will be 51st time.
ah
It's a numbers thing. I don't even know that I can explain it other than if you figure the first hunt was in 52, the second in 53, the third in 54 and so on...by the time you counted to 2001, it would be 50.
I'm gonna see if I can't get my head calmed down enough to go to sleep. Did I see that someone posted that the *real* paper is going to be available earlier - like 11:00? That'd be cooler - I can handle staying up till 11:30, but midnight + noodling time just is too late, when I get up at 4:30.
yeah, i got it now....i was just doing a subtraction thing, not including 52 i guess
Goodnight Mom! SCMDs!!!
Y'all will probably see me here at midnight. I gotta at least get more words to keep repeating in my head.
No obsession at all there, Mom! LOL!!
Mom...good attitude. medallion hunting season is short and only once a year!!!
Where was the vry first medallion found..which park?
Highland
Maybe they will put it in the same spot/park as that first one to tie in with the 50th? Also--the word "gold" isn't 50th anniversary the golden anniversary...?
MANY PEOPLE OUT LOOKING AND WHERE
I'll be lurking in the shadows at night seeking the treasure that will release me from my eternal chains.
This is the 50th Hunt, instead o'the 49th, as there were two Hunts in 1953. Chair-O-Key and State Fair Grounds.
you are so right...gold is the traditional 50th anniversary gift.
I suppose Prospect Park would be way too small for it to be in.
I'm the Night Digger. I work during the day and dig treasure by the moonlight at night.
You know Annnette, I had thought the same thing with the world gold.
But that is an awfully small postage sized piece of land.
bet the med will be gold in color this year....that's probably all that means...if it means anything at all. i've found overanalyzing these clues is bad!!
Of course overanalyzing the clues is bad for us, that's why we like it so much!
welcome back dan.
I notice you've fallen victim to the same lower case/pseudo-formatting i've fallen to.
Your reading to much into this ITS ONLY THE FIRST CLUE!!!!
tell me about it snake. read any of the discussion immediately following the clue release last night?
stepdogg, you back in town or up in stc?
Ares...still at school now. i'm coming home on tues or wednesday to really get serious this year!! How are you doing?
good dan. i had lunch with your sister back in october. the trip killed one of the tires on my mustang.
well i'll be back at the stroke of 12....later
Does the paper still sell the early addition at 11:00?
I had the same thought about the medallion possibly being wrapped in gold foil or some such thing, but even if it were, so what? Not like I'm going to ignore things of other colors.
The 50 anniversary is the golden one, however, this isn't really the 50th anniversary, its the 50th hunt, and if you take green's point into consideration, this is actually the 51st hunt (but its still the 50th year of hunting).
And if anyone is still confused. The first hunt was in 1952:
In 1953:
So in 2001:
Sorry I missed the bash last night, I had my work party. Sam (my young on') and I are going to be heavy in to the hunt this year. I have a suspicion that we're going back to Highland. Five times in 50 years....
Anyone know where we can get the official cooler medallion hunt button?
green, any news on the meeting at the conservatory yet?
joe
Nope. Word's still to come in from them. Hope to know by tomorrow.
dave, i feel robbed.
So why isn't it midnight yet???
Are you asking about the Winter Carnival button or the Coolercrew button?
According to today's PP, page 16H, "the new clues will be in newspapers sold from the downtown St. Paul lobby at 345 Cedar Street starting at about 11 each night during the hunt. The new clue, she said, also will be posted at midnight at www.pioneerplanet.com/wintercarnival"
Hey! Sam wants to know what the medallion actually looks like. Has anyone ever SEEN the medallion? A jpeg would be great. Is there a picture of the actual med somewhere? coolercrew.com?
At the risk of sounding like an idiot (although those who've met me know that it's too late for that), wouldn't something wrapped in any kind of foil set off a metal detector, Allison? I'm not suggesting it's actually wrapped in real gold foil, but I don't know how sensitive those detectors are and you generally see someone out every year with one.
TV. We're wondering 'bout the Cooler Crew button. Saw these under memorabilia on the Cooler webpage.
Foil would set those detectors off...but it's been years since I've seen those during the hunt. It somehow seems more fair now without that technology.
Now here's something to consider though. It says St. Paul is the place to look. Dig elsewhere and you'll not find it. Grammatically the implication is that you will be digging, just not outside of St. Paul.
Gregor--click on this link, and scroll to bottom of page for photo of the puck http://www.coolercrew.com/medallion/images_2000.html
Along with the CC button, does anyone know where to get the Medallion shirt OFF-line?
The fiftieth anniversary is fifty years from the date of the event, regardless of the subsequent number of times the event has been repeated.
Emmy and Hannah's Mom - and Dad too have the buttons. They are $1 each to cover the cost. They will be hunting and at the rehash bash and on the board here. You'll have to hook up with them one way or another.
It might set them off, if anyone really wanted to drag one out and use it just because there's a possibility it might work.
So are we to assume DIG elsewhere and you'll not find it, or does it mean dig ELSEWHERE and you'll not find it? Maybe that's the difference between whether or not it's in the snow.
Elsewhere is a word of contrast, so I would think it would pretty much have to be the second option.
Sam thanks you, DDave. I'll keep my eyes open for Emmy and Hannah's Mom - Dad.
Have they ever spelled out the initial letters in bold before? Seems really like a rookie move, a diversion.
G O O D L U C K
Could this have anything to do with the first line, ...prepare to be bold?
ok i don't think they are going to have any certain word in the first clue that actually means something. they never do.
I don't recall them ever spelling out anything like that in the first or any clues (though sometimes they spell something with the first letter of each clue). Maybe its someone new writing them this year. Sounds like someone who was a hunter last year.
Boy am I MAD!!!
I bought another button last night at McGovern's from the Vulcans because I was convinced it made sense to have at least 2 registered in case the USPS wasn't reliable.
I just went to fill out the card to get in the mail tomorrow - only to find it has already been ripped off!
Grumble, Grumble!
stepdogg. you're back early.
yeah, nothing going on tonight
not much to do up in st. cloud is there?
not over j-term!!
methinks most colleges have that problem. even the u is a graveyard without classes. and nate knows this he spent a few days working there over winter break.
Elsehwere--adverb [middle English elleshwere; Anglo Saxon Elleshwaer] in, at, or to some other place; somewhere else. Webster's New World Dictionary. Ok, that did nothing but occupy time. Honestly, in 10 years, clue1 has not given us the park or the hiding object, so I need another clue to obsess on.
Anybody want to transcribe the clue if I call it in from the paper at 11:00?
the past 4 years, while not giving us the park, have at least given that it is in a park. 95 and 96 saved that piece till the second clue, and 94 did it with the first.
I would if you want. I have a cell phone you can call.
DD- I can email you my number if Allison does not respond.
go leela
Sorry, got distracted. Got it.
im out!
15 minutes
a big thanks in advance to DD for helping us noodle earlier! I can't wait!!!
I've been doing some map reading here. Just getting familiar again with streets and such.
Downtown Dave! Thank you!!!!
Just checking in... not sure what to think of the 1st clue. Am hoping that this next one gives us more info.
Thanks to DD for getting the paper early! :)
So does anyone think this clue will prove usefull or just leave us going "Huh?"
I've been doing every menial household task that takes a few minutes to fill the time in this last hour of waiting... refill the humidifier, refill the brita filter, sort laundry, ugggghhh!! I'm normally not this domestic. I just want to see the clue! Then I can go to bed. I don't even have to noodle too much, I just need to know what it is!
Prolly leave us going "huh" or least me anyhow!
Allison, you will make heads or tails of it quickest. I think the first clue has more info that other first clues. This one will also give insight, but I think it will be more confusing than previous years.
If history repeats itself, we'll be tearing it apart and reading stuff that isn't there and loving every minute of it.
Very true, Terry. I love preposterous ideas.
About an hour until the next clue is posted online?
About 400 messages since I last checked in here.
I skipped them all so I hope I didn't miss anything important?
:-)
Anyone seen Rush around?
I think you're right leela! It will be more confusing this year.
Terry, Thanks for the welcome to the board a few hundred posts ago!
THX - DD will be back with paper soon.
thx, we should be getting the clue from dd shortly, don't slog yet!
I don't remember if I've seen Rush here or not today.
allison answer your phone lol
My take on clue 1: Its hidden in St. Paul Its hidden inside of a treasure chest
been here all day, thx and terry. i don't believe i've seen either rush here.
my take on clue 1 the treasure is in st paul
I am WAY too lazy to slog 500 ideas about the FIRST CLUE!!!! Will someone tell me wif I missed anyting important... please?
Hey Tim!
Tim - Lots of speculation, nothing concrete and lots of Joe's
all you missed, tim, was a bunch ove over-analysis. same as usual :).
hi diddly oh neighborino
oh yeah, don't forget the joes :). speaking of which...
Oh, I missed over anaylisis(whiny voice).
not just over analysis, tim. lots of it. allison did some tests placing links on pages just to get blue text, too.
Are we going to have to wait till midnite for the clue or should i go get it and call it in?
Hey, I had some BRILLIANT theories on Rice and Phalen, hehe.
500 messages in a nutshell, I'll give it a try.
Lots of debating about whether it's in a park or just on public land and also whether it's in the snow or above the snow. Lots of noodling on gold=50th anniv and june = wedding month, also june=6th month (these thoughts led to como and highland I think?) Lots of noodling on battles and street names, etc leading toward battle creek, como and highland. And some talk of snoopies. That's the jist of it but almost everyone says we're all overanalizing which most readily admit.
that rice theory was the epitome of brilliance, allison. seriously, tim it's *well* worth the slog to read it
leelabell, I was gonna say...I've got an extra Entry Form. If I had your name,add,ph, etc I could send it out for you tonight. You can e-mail me the info if you like...Oops, it looks like I didn't give my e-mail at registration, but did give my webpage, and my e-mail is at the bottom of my webpage.
Good evening to the Cooler Crew. While I wasn't around last year (due to location problems) for any of the excitement, rest assured that I'm as ready to go as I have for every hunt that I've participated in... and I'll be sure to make this forum a base of operations as I have every year before, as well. :) While this is only the third time I've hunted, I make note in my "third time is a charm," superstition and am ready to strike it rich. (rookie I may be, but I lack not in the hunting drive. I've verified that I've literally walked over the medallion several times in Cherokee... and the following year [the park's name escapes me]..)
Of course, the socializing of hunt's past with everyone and the reflection on nature are always things I can count on, too :)
Anyway, I'm chilling out until the next clue hits the press. I really am quite irritated that it's a requisite that I collect the newspaper to win, especially with my bias towards the growing use of electronics such as this... Anyway, I'll stick around and see if this place fails to bring about the quickest and best theorems as to where this little bugger is muggerear! I'm counting on all of your support and communication, I never hold any secrets! If anyone I know is a winner, I'm happy enough with that.
I'll talk to y'all in a bit. My luck and wisdom will be with you all.
-Matt
don't forget, thumbs, we determined that allison was a vampire, too :).
Good evening all! Clue? CLUE? CLUE??????
matt, you can print off the clues off the web, and it's just as good for the 2500 as the paper is.
jake- you are the man! ittiz in a treasure chest! back to the first hunt(50th hunt), gold, and I'm sure there is more.
Matt, you can submit on line clues for the extra $2500 as well. Even handwritten clues count. Don't despair, technology is your friend!
Anyone have any thoughts on my treasure chest theory???
Anyone seen Rush around
I don't know about Rush, but will I do, I just got here and had to slog through about 300 posts, or are you refering to the other Rush???
Annette, that is too kind of you. Thanks, I already sent my hubby for another one. It was nice meeting you last night.
anyone else out there just guessing that mom p doesnt't release the clue on teh web for an hour after it releases the paper for the sole purpose of extorting, i mean selling more papers?
yes
Ares,you know Allison Is A VAMPIRE! AND HE'S THE CLUEWRITER!
He's just tryin to confuse us!
he did tense up for a bit when we started talking about the garlic, holy water and stakes, didn't he? :) sorry allison, but i think you're stuck with this "stigma" for the duration of this hunt. :)
Ares, Ma is in the business of making money you know! and Jake, I love your idea that it's in a treasure chest! Very retro, back to the basics it would be and very fitting. It is a treasure hunt after all, not a puck hunt.
jake- that would be cool(since the treasure chests were a little bigger than a card box). but if true, it once again points to a big park, since a treasure chest would be found quickly in a small park
Don't let him fool you or give you the "EVIL EYE".
maybe he's a pirate.....
Jake - how tiny is the treasure chest you have in mind
Ares, I agree with you about the clues not coming out until 1 hr later so they can sell more papers!
I know thumbs. and i don't blame her one bit. yet, dave will be doing a fine job of defeating that purpose for us coolerheads. thanks, dave.
the clues have to be cut from the paper to get the cash
Damn Capitalists!
dan, slog back to somewhere around post 10700. allison posted a bit from the paper on the subject.
in case you're lazy like the rest of us, here's the piece from the rules:
-- The finder of the Pioneer Press medallion must immediately return the medallion to the Pioneer Press, 345 Cedar St., St. Paul, to qualify for the $2,500 initial prize. An additional $2,500 will be awarded for bringing in all of the published daily clues from the Pioneer Press and providing them along with the found medallion.
nothing about actually clipping them from the paper.
Just kiddin MOM press!!!:)
thats it Scribe, suck up, suck up.
well, the whole coolercrew really only hasta buy 1 paper a night, then ya's post it, and everyone else prints it out
Who me? the cluewriter?
The treasure chest back in the 50's was "small enough to cuff in your palms" The rules state we are still looking for a medallion, but I am pretty certain the medallion is inside one of these small tresure chests....
I withheld the large discussion of the myth of allison as not only the clue writer, but a vampire as well from Tim as I was trying to avoid slander charges! But allison isn't exactly dening it either so maybe I'm safe. I'll be sure to eat some garlic before bed just to be sure. =)
we all know allison couldnt posssibly write these sucky clues.
Does the winner get the medallion, or do they hide the same one every year? Always wondered about that.....
And I think that is all clue number 1 is telling us, but only time will tell!!!
Allison is digging up the medallion RIGHT NOW.
Hey Jakey! Great idea about the chest!
Same one since 1991
scribe, you've got something brown on your nose :)
annete- same one every year
Hiyall!
Thanks DD for waiting for the paper. I'd hoped to see something by now - they must be holding out til 11:30.
Knew I couldn't go to sleep with the clue coming out!
good point, tim. allison's clues are about 20 times better than that one.
Naw he isn't, he's out huntin for a snack!
Beware all hunters!!!!!:)
me too mom. there is no way. i guess i'll get my sleep in 1st-3rd hour!
You should see me in my pirate shirt Scribe :)
what makes you think i'm not out hunting with him, scribe? one laptop with ricochet is all it takes.
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