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I'm slogging, too, Ter! And laughing my a, ah, well - laughing hard! You guys and your Newell!!! And Pfool and Sassafras, and Downtown Dave! It's so funny... Rereading it now, today, and knowing how it all comes out!
I just read where you said, "At the prehunt bash last night, I must have mentioned Newell at least a half dozen times. I do believe this could be the year!" and I'm about to fall outta my chair!!!!!
Talk about wishful thinking coming TRUE!!!
Joe!
It's great, isn't it? I'm up to the 1600's somewhere.
I'm at 345 or so - the stuff about Derrick and his constant posting about his chat area...
LOLPMPCOMOSBAG!!!!!! Last year was a HOOT!!!!!
I slog. I slog often. It is fun.
SCDs Ter and Tim*. I'm gonna toddle off. Just think... In ten days it starts - THE MED HUNT!!!
Huggers.
me
Nightie - night and SCD's, Green.
<ding>
scd's to all. see you in 10 days green.
Okay...I'm up to the 2600's...and still slogging. It's just like visiting old friends.
Goodnight Green! SCDs to you!
Ahh. That time of year to stop reading the stock market boards and start reading the cooler. And I find myself with the decision. Saturday night at the company holiday party or Saturday night at McGovern's pre-hunting. Decisions, decisions, decisions...
Terry, for even *more* fun - the 1999 board is still up as well. It's called just "the medallion hunt". I had to laugh - one of the first posts in there, I made a comment about how I favored Phalen and Battle Creek...
You mean you have to decide that, Ares? The prehunt bash hands down! No decision!!!
Mom - I figure that's next! LOL!!! Gotta do something before the hunt actually begins - in 10 days yet....argh!!!!
of course not, terry. my decision's been made. the general atmosphere at work says that going to the company party would require dressing up, something i'm truly incapable of. :). oh, and it begins in 10 days and an hour and some odd minutes.
now, as another note, question, whatever, i've slogged through the posts that have shown up here since the middle of december or so, and i'm not really planning on going through those between the last hunt and this one. how many people actually lurk here over the summer?
I have to admit, I pop in here every few months just to see what, if anything has been going on here....but I don't know if you could call that *lurking*...
ya know mom, i remember the 99 hunt all too well. i was quite literally standing on the thing at backstop 4, when my troupe and i decided that our time would be better spend digging out the bleachers behind the southeast diamond instead. what a mistake. of course, we did get to see some guy shovel out the entire baseball diamond at that backstop.
I got my button today!
Slogging through the old messages eh? I wonder if that gives you any sort of insight? The only thing I can think of is to keep Occam's Razor in mind: "The simplest explanation tends to be the right one" (paraphrased). If I had done that I never would have wasted all that time in Iris last year AFTER I figured out it was at Newell. So what clue would you guess that people will figure out the park on? Last year we had it on 4, the year before it was 7.
Hmmm, you know, I don't think they're going to start a new board for this year since they changed the name of this one and the Winter Carnival site points to this one.
Hi Allison - Mom - Ares! Glad you'll be joining the crew at McGovern's!
You know at the prehunt bash last year - I mentioned it being at Newell several times. Wonder if I'll get that lucky this year.
Well, lets hope that the clues drag out a little longer this year, and that they are more well written than last year. Lets make the hunt fun. I was quite depressed last year when it all came apart on 7. Went to my normal place to get buttons this year (a little Tom Thumb in south Minneapolis) only to find the whole store was gone...I guess I should have went there more than once a year and gave them a little support. I eventually found some 4 packs at an SA over by Conway. I keep a 4 pack every year as souvenir, then I buy an individual for myself to wear for the hunt.
For those who need a button and dont know where to find them:
1) Most SA's in Saint Paul and its burbs 2) likewise most Holiday Station Stores 3) Tom Thumbs in Saint Paul and a couple in Minneapolis
Early Thoughts: Over the years, the clue writers have tried not to be too obvious. I think the last time it was at Como was during a significant anniversary for that park, but giving away Como isn't giving away much because the area is so vast.
I think they'll try to throw us off a bit more than usual, particularly since it was found so quickly last year. Expect early clues to lead us astray. I think they used Conway as a test a couple of years ago to see how a small rec. center might fare in a big park world. I used to tell people to ignore rec. centers, but true to the game, the hiders opened up this possibility just in time to sell more of Steve Worthman's books.
I love it all. I wouldn't rule out small parks just because it's the 50th anniversary and because more folks are expected to be out after the $10K. But clues aren't going to point you right to a small place.
I would love for it to be back at Marydale, just because I grew up within spittin' distance of the place. Even more, I would love for it to be at Front Recreation Center (find that on your map). Using Front, or Sylvan, North Dale, Orchard, ... now that would floor me.
Hi, Can anyone recall the Park where a rapist was lurking around this Spring or summer ? Was it Loeb Lake ? Also, any info on "Bad" places to go or be. Thanks,
Good Marning, All! Hi, Greg! Ares, when one's just awake and not enuff coffee in one, "troupe" reads "toupe"!!!!!
Man, there is NO WAY I'd give up the Pre-Hunt Pary OR The Re-Hash Bash not only for work or for ANYTHING. Specially the The Re-Hash Bash. Gods! What would you guys do w/o 24 lbs o'potatoe salad?????
Well, guess I should get ready for work. In just about 13 days school will be out and it will be Hunt City for me! Nothing shall stay me from my appointed hunting! Ter, remember Conway and the bladder infection I had? Oh! Was I miserable! Climbing outta my goon suit every 10 minutes - thank gods it was warm that year! - and never straying too far from the warming house? I pray THAT never happens again!
Catch you guys later! Have a WAY COOLER Day!
me, green
JOE!!!
green, i was being fascetious about the work party. you're gonna have to miss the last 3 days of school, though for the hunt :).
jason
Better'a been, boy! Better'a been!
I was actually yoking - yust using a phrase, like - when I mentioned school being out. I've not been in school since they used little chalkboards! Me thinks I'm gonna be missing LOTS o'work after about the 24th... YEWBETCHA!!!!
I'm already tired o'this - this waiting. Clue One is gonna tell us The Med's located within the State o'Minnesota, within St. Paul, within a park, and don't EVEN think o'going on a golf course or tearing ANYTHING up.
So, like, since we've got *that* nailed down, lettuce just move rite on to Clue Two, otay? Don't you think that's a fine and dandy idea?
Eye do!
I hope they have electrical outlets at "The Park." I want to bring my Chile Cheeze Dip to da'Bash. And if anybuddy wants me to pick up a porterhouse or rib-eye the size of a roast at Lem's, let me know!
Can you tell I'm HUNGRY? LOL!!! Life don't get in-knee better'un THIS! Talking The Hunt and FOOD! :D
Hay! MJ!!! Would you please ask TT if I may (again, for the third year!) borrow his Marty Michilen suit to Hunt in? In case I can't find a green one...
Terry- What is your e-mail address?
using last years garage logic it might be by the snoopy at midway stadium lol
The Conway board is gone! All 22175 messages vanished into history. Sigh. Hopefully this year will be a worthy replacement.
dave, check google. maybe they've got them cached somewhere.
Oh I'm sure they may be lurking out there somewhere, but the main point is they're not HERE anymore. I was really starting to wonder if they'd ever go away. And for the person who asked earlier, no, not a whole lot gets posted here during the summer.
yeah, but you sounded like you didn't want them to disappear. incidentally, i figured not much got posted here in the summer, since the last one i remember reading at the end of the last hunt was numbered somewhere around 8900.
jason
Hay, man. You know? Ittiz like just way too ingrained!
JOE!!!
Man, that's pretty lookin'!!! :D
Something just hit me, besides the rain drops... As I was out ruminating over the loss of the Conway Hunt thread.
Ittiz been two years in a row that they've used Presidents in the clues. The trees in a row: "Wood row," as in Wilson (Conway). And the Franklin Pierce stuff last year. (I remember well the Conway trees/wood row/Wilson, as it's the only single clue ever ever ever - but the first ones! - I've ever figured out!)
Not that I think the use of Presidents two years in a row means anything or will help us in any way, but... You never know. I've tossed it out there for us.
Maybe we've had the same ditzy Clue Writer(s) two years running? (Running? Election? LOL!!!) Maybe if there's anything dealing with Presidents *this* year we'll have a [better] feel for the way whomever writes them as it will be the same purrson(s) and we've noodled his (can't be a woman! LOL!!!) style for two years???
I don't know. It's just something that dawned on me.
My money's on Battlecreek or Mounds. Yup. YEWBETCHA!!!
The Zodiac Hunter
Aries-- Most likely to go out hunting with a group of friends and will somehow manage to convince them to excavate an entire softball field.
Taurus-- More likely to want to just go out and dig without worrying a great deal about the clues. Will keep digging in the same place even if others tell them they’re in the wrong park.
Gemini-- Never gets to the right park because they read far too much into the clues. Still, they have a good time making their case.
Cancer-- Is only out there because someone they care about is out hunting and they wanted to go along and enjoy the experience with them.
Leo-- Determined to find the Medallion no matter what. Coordinates all available resources to decipher the clues and will dig tirelessly until it’s found.
Virgo-- May throw out a few ideas to others in an effort to be helpful but won’t go out and look for the Medallion on their own because if they don’t find it, then it was all a waste of time.
Libra-- Listens to everyone’s ideas and tries to get everyone to work together to figure out which park to look in, but by the time they actually decide on one, the Medallion has already been found.
Scorpio-- Not really concerned about the clues or finding the Medallion. Just uses the hunt as way to meet members of the opposite sex.
Sagittarius-- Will start out in one park, then decide on a different one and dig there, then become convinced its an a totally different place and will rush off there. Does eventually get to the right place though.
Capricorn-- Will choose a favorite park early on and then manage to fit every clue to their park of choice, never accepting other theories until they have no choice.
Aquarius-- Will be the first one to figure out the clues and is usually content to leave it at that and not bother digging, though is more than willing to share their insights with their fellow hunters.
Pisces-- Most likely to follow the crowd in determining what park to look in and once there, will rely on gut instinct, trying to “feel” where the Medallion lies, to figure out where to dig.
(written by AllisonWondrland)
MOUNDS IT NOT BE! if they put it in mounds, it will be the last hunt ever. big lawsuits last time they put it their. battle creek is 3 sections, the maplewood one is not connected, so its a different matter than phaelen is. battle creek good canidate, as phaelen, their'll put the treasure their, when i see it with my own cold dead hands (what ever that means)
now people keep saying highland cuz its the 50th aniversary. i can agree with that, but this might sound dumb. the treasure hunt started in 1952 right? and its 2001, making it the 49th? this year
You know, it's a question of style. I can only write like me because I am me. I bet I could pick out Greg and Allison - and WW! - because they have their own distinctive styles. Everybody does!
Same for The Clue Writers. I'm convinced the clues the past two years were written by the same person, or group of persons. In addition to having a good knowledge of Am., and even St. Paul history (did Boxmeyer write the clues - they are very much like his writing...), two years in a row we've had "first and last" as in Conway Twitty and Tim Conway; and Franklin Pierce and Pierce Butler.
If the same person, or group of, are writing them again this year, it should be easier to maybe understand and "ace" the clues... Because we'll have a feel for their style, what they know, what they're about.
But if someone new... there will be different puzzles, turns of phrases. Because they'll have their own different style.
Oh, never mind. I guess just a puzzle to keep myself busy for the next 10 or so days.
Allison, I love your Zodiac Hunters! But *this* Pisces didn't follow any crowd! LOL!!! She dug all on her lonesome in Phalen in the wee hours o'the marning! But, I will give you, gut instinct *does* play a huge part - LOL!!! Ittiz the intuitiveness of us fishy-folk. Tho, hasn't been a damn bit helpful for three years. Doubt if it will help this year, either (sigh).
Well, I'll just keep trying! :D
Its not the 50th anniversary, its the 50th hunt. After the first hunt, zero years had gone by, after the 2nd hunt, 1 year had gone by since the first, and so on. So in this 49th anniversary of the hunt, we are doing the 50th hunt.
That must be why me bones is so tired!!!
Does anyone have Terry Valentine's e-mail address???
Wish I could help you Jakey...
Hi all!
Jake do you have IM? I'm not real sure about putting my email up for everyone to get.
That Zodiac Hunter thing is funny - but this Gemini is usually in the right park - and I sure read less into the clues than some around here do!
Jake - I want your email too so we can communicate about the prehunt bash and I'd love to get the documentary folks to talk to you. We'll figure something out.
And the 21st century began this year.
Terry- my screen name is inge01, im me, i'll be on for a while.
Hey Terry, Jake, and anyone else who cares. If you want to give someone your email and you're both here at the same time, just give it to them. Then after they have it, delete the message or edit it out. Then only whoever sees that message in those couple of minutes will get the email, which at this point is still likely to be almost no one.
Ter- you are right about gemini being in the right park! I swear I won't read too much into the clues this year.
Oh, another thing, I thought we were going to call our party the pre-dig gig. Along with the re-hash bash, and the pity party(I think that is what we called it). It doesn't really matter.
Jake - nice chatting with you! See ya at the prehunt bash or the predig gig or whatever!
Gonna scoot here for a bit and get some stuff done.
It looks like everyone else is thinking the same thing as me...they're going to make a little harder this year, so we dont end up with a lousy 7clu'er again. Now, Boreas, could you please send us some $@#!!#& cold and some #^$!!@* Snow? Please, we beg you...whatcha doing? Taking a nap? Look what the Vulcans are doing while you are asleep!!!
Good Evening!
One day closer to the BIG DAY! What is it? Nine days to the Pre-dig-gig? I like that!
I didn't think they *ever* took away message boards!
Nice Joe!, Mom. (said a titch begrudingly...) Hi!
Hay, Shovel! Quit with the weather reports; SHEESH! You mentioned earlier (I think it was you...) about hoping for no freeze on top o'this [tiny] amount o'snow we gots. And damn if it didn't RAIN today! Was the first thing I thought of! "WHO was IT that evoked the gods????!!!" :D
Shovel, speaking from *my* point o'view - being the Pisces I am! LOL!!! - I'd really like to just walk out there and pick up The Med and not *have* to dig!!!
Did I mention I'm lazy and old?
Mom, back in our hayday, when we were yust a budding little on-line comm, they took away The Med Hunting board a bit after The Hunt was over. Thass hows come we were given "Shoot The Breeze With The Cooler Crew"! 'Member now?
Joe!!!
Good Evening!
Been froin here most of the evening trying to get other stuff done. Too bad the other med board is down...I was planning on sloggin that one too.
This weather stuff is gonna create crunchy snow if we're lucky and solid ice if the luck turns. Could very well be the year for ice picks and choppers.
Tomorrow is Finally Friday!!! Only one week and a couple of days till the first clue that will indicate whether ittiz in St Paul or greater Ramsey County and will probably tell us to stay off the golf courses.
I am tellin' ya...I feel it in these old bones - unless it's the damp weather doing this....Mounds or Phalen this year if it's in the city limits.
Mounds or Battlecreek.
Check out Truman Drive...
Fro'ing until tomorrow. When I can drive you all around the bend yet some more with another no-matter synapis flash!
Can't help it. Just trying to help. Never know. Some year I may just hit something more than "trees in a row."
(Tho I seriously doubt it!)
Nite, All! SCDs! Keep the light on and the coffee hot and strong. Ian'll be here soon... He's lurking.
Fro'ing...
Hello, back again, though at an awkward time I have a few questions for you, the other loyal ones. I shall check back at a later time.
Bee, get outta the Frog Pond! The Doc folks want to talk to you!
Ittiz, they wanna talk to you, too...
Has DDY been informed and gotten in touch with them?
WHERE is Ian???
Ter, you got Cheryl and Reed's email?????
Hay, Rush! Whuss up?
Nice to see so many regulars from past years. I hope you all had a wondereful off season. Crusty snow!! this looks to be a hard year for digging. Does anybody know of a good guide that covers Ramsey county parks outside of St. Paul?? It has been a while since it was palced out of the city.
Hey gang, I'm back for another season of diggin'. Hopefully I'll get out to the right park before the dern thing is found. Last year I got to Newell for the first time 15 minutes after it was found. Figures. I was holding out. NOT THIS YEAR! And, this is probably by farewell hunt (boo hoo). I'm getting married in October and moving to Hot Spring, Arkansas! I doubt they have anything THIS cool down there. Granted, they did get 2.5 inches of solid ice a couple of weeks ago. Glad I'm not digging in THAT! I'll try to make it to the pre-dig-gig. I'm coming back from a weekend in Chicago that Sunday, but will hopefully make it before it gets too late.
See ya out there! SueBee
sue its things like that 2.5 inches of ice that provide a great reason to break the "no blowtorches" rule from the treasure hunter's guide :).
To answer Green's question, yes, they have talked to DDy, even spoke to him on the phone I believe.
To Answer New Daddy's question, there is a site called "Friends of the Parks" which is really friends of Ramsey County parks. They don't have maps but they do have a search engine that allows you to look for almost anything you can think of whether it be street names, what kinds of facilities they have, who runs the park, etc. The only thing is when I was looking at it yesterday, or maybe it was the day before, it didn't seem to be working. No matter what I looked for, it came up with nothing. Hopefully they'll get it fixed soon.
The URL is http://www.friendsoftheparks.org/
Now, for my question. Last year, while on this chat site for the medallion hunt, I did not see many of the familiar names that I see today. I am glad that all of you are still here. Anyway, my question is - where did all of you go? There were a lot of newbies posted. Then again, the park was figured out on the fourth clue. Back to my point, will all of you be communicating here or on another site. I enjoy hearing all of your insights and trying to communicate mine. So anyway I am glad that it is only a little more than a week away. I've got my boots lined up by the door, just waiting for me.
Another thing - does anyone know when they stop selling and accepting the buttons? And- are they sold in the south metro?
I don't know when they stop selling them, but I know the deadline for registration is January 25th.
As for where did people go? Well there are some people who post on here who are really nothing more than annoying, and that is pretty much their aim. I remember someone last year kept posting porno ads too, so its not too surprising that people not spend a lot of time here when its crazy (not to mention the board crashing all the time). I also think last year, after Conway went to 11 clues, a lot of people held off getting involved too early and by the time they did it was over. As for other places, there were more options last year. In addition to the Shoot The Breeze Board here, there were some other sites with chatrooms and message boards. But I think this will always be the central gathering place and everyone will return here at some point.
The medallion is at Hidden Falls. That is my pre-hunt statement, not a guess, a statement. Good luck to Coolerheads everywhere!!!!!
I'm trying to rearrange my schedule so that I can go to McGovern's on the 20th. I hope to finally meet many of the Cooler Crew regulars. If you see me, it will late evening.
I have also been busy making changes to my web site. Please stop by Treasure Hunt Headquarters and take a look around.
Having trouble getting the links to work, can anybody help?
They changed things here so that HTML links don't work here like they used to. It's hard to have fun here any more.
From what I can figure out, the way to do a link is simply to type in the whole url for the site you want folks to go to... http://www.coolercrew.com/
Not as fancy as doing it with HTML - but it works. That's the main thing. Everything else is gravy.
Hmmmmmm.....that didn't work. How did the parks thing get to be a link???
Got it!!! Just gotta get the whole thing right.
Howdy-Do! And Happy Friday!
I've been working on getting a photographer/filmer for the 20th so that none of us have to step back and take pics and possibly not be in a "major moment." I think I've got it nailed down but will have to wait until next week to know for sure. And it will be a professional!!! We may not go with still photos, but actual filming. I'll know more later.
Am trying to pull in chits I've out there thru work for media contacts. I've only two, MPR and Channel Two, but it beats a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. And I've contacted my local widdo tiny paper in hopes they'll like the human interest angle and do a story: "Local Woman In Documentary," or something like that. If any o'you have small papers in your towns/cities (those of you that don't like live in St. Paul) do the same if you're comfortable. The more word and press coverage we get, the better for this posting site, our Web site, The Crew, and Mom Press/Planet, and the doc folks. Company newsletters, too. But again, only if you're comfortable doing something like that.
Mom Planet's going to be working on contacting the heavy hitters (Channel Five, et al) and is going to do little ads that direct folks here for noodling. Maybe even 15 sec radio spots if it can be swung (swang?). They're going to try and dig up the VERY FIRST goup pic - remember that at Chair-O-Key, with Lem? - for use in the documentary if the doc folks wish to use it. There will also prolly be an article in Mom Press. Terry, I'll need your help in getting email addresses to Mom Press for contacting folks, if they want/need to contact them. I hope you'll help out there. I'll know more on this later.
I talked to Lem today! He says, "Hi!" to all and was p-r-e-t-t-y incredulous about the documentary. Greg, he was at our Web site when I was talking to him (he didn't know we had it!) and thought it super nice and professional. He was REALLY impressed!!! I TOLD you you're the greatest and you've done the bestest job with our site!!! He was really impressed we're still together after all this time and had the nicest quote about us, it made me cry. I can't think of it xactly, but it was something like... Oh, I can't even paraphrase. It was like how awesome it is that The Crew came about and we're the perfect example of an on-line community - or something along those lines. I'm going to have him contact the producer to give it to him as it would be a purrfect voice over intro. Tho, it could get canned, too! LOL!!! But I think not!
I've tracked down Brett! SHEESH! He's as hard to get ahold of now as he was when he was at Mom Planet! LOL!!! He needs to talk to the doc folks. After all, it was Brett that got us "Shoot The Breeze," and our Web site. I think he'll be xcited about the documentary!
And I can't promise anything, it's not mine to promise, but there *may* be a surprise for The Crew. Mom Planet's gonna see... No promises, but she's not above begging!
Things moving along nicely. Oh, damn! Forgot to ask if we could be in the parade again this year! Oh, well! Next phone call/email!
green, The Head Cheer Leader
JOE!
Mr. Med Hunter... You GOTTA come! Try, try, TRY to be there! Terry comes dressed as a palm reader and looks into her crystal ball to figure out where The Med's gonna be hidden! Just joking! But you'd think that's what she did last year!
Ter, you know how to get a hold of Girl/Cake and Pfool???? Should we just go to Newell and yell for them?
And Cheryl and Reed? Do you still have their address?
Anyone talk to Gram'ma Red and her clan?
Green - I've had a major netscape crash thing happen here and don't have as many emails as I used to...but I have some. I think I still have Cheryl's. Does anyone have Hollywood's?
I don't have Pfools and Girls anymore.
Boogers. I know the agnst of crashes! Well, push coming to shove, we'll figure out something. We always have!
I've not Hollywood's... I see that EH is helping with the Website and I've asked Greg to let her know about all the doin's, if she doesn't know already being so tied in.
I gotta fro to Sue's for another drip bag for Hattie. I'll BE BOCK!!!
Hugs, me
HELLO, SueBee! Ssssooooo good to see you again! Congrats on your forthcoming nuptuals! Does this guy like Corgis? He better!
SueBee, you'll be bock to hunt. You can take the girl away from The Hunt, but you can't take The Hunt away from the girl! Plan an early 2002 wedding and honeymoon hunting! :D
Hey!! Good to see ya Santa!!!
Oh boy, I've caught slogging fever again. Must...read...every...post. I registered my button today, so I am SO ready. I mentioned before that the medallion will be downtown. If not, it will be in the SW corner of the city. Cherokee (West Side), Conway (East Side), Newell (NW), so if they are making any attempt to spread it around (and I know they don't have to, but I prefer it), Highland and Hidden Falls look attractive. Oh, now I have to due time regression plots on the map to see how much they move it around (I have only been at this 6 years)....Later
BRING IT ON!! I've slogged through the posts for the first time since February. I see the nahf people have been touching base with the Crew's finest .. Good to see!! Let's hope it lasts more than a week, so they can capture the real flavor of the obsession.
Shall we start a pool as to where it will be this year combined with what day it will be found? We would collect at the PreHash and pay the winner the evening I find it. Don't forget, I have THE treasure map.
Guide out.
I got up this AM and my first thought - REALLY - was "This week it starts!" No more "in two weeks," "in ten days"!!! Just one week from today the insanity begins! Well... continues.
Downtown, glad you mentioned about regestering the buttons. I've just kind'a been looking at mine, wondering which to wear when, which will go best with... GREEN! And haven't even opened them. Gotta gett'um registered - TODAY! You need to get with Jake, Dave! While he spews info, you can be maping it. Nice to know we've a cartographer on the team!
Ah...
JOE!!!
Downtown, what about SE? Think could be that? There's a Truman Drive/Road/Convayence/Whatever near Mounds and Battle Creek. Truman was president 50 years ago... Ittiz true, man. Ittiz true.
Like you, I think there's something to area. I had a feeling last year it would be in the vicinity it was, but I was a few miles too east in Phalen...
Yes! Green trying to have the park nailed one week before the first clue even comes out! I think more Battle Creek than Mounds; I'm in WW's camp. I just can't see them hiding The Med there for fear too much damage to the mounds.
Good Morning!
Green - you always like the idea of those east side parks - Phalen, Battle Creek...LOL!!
Phalen is long overdue - but my early prediction remains Mounds. Just seems that there has been a trial period over the last few years when early clues had many digging in that park. One year - was that the year of Cherokee? - many, many people at Mounds without incident to the burial mounds.
But then - time will tell! We'll all meet up somewhere eventually.
Good marning, Ter! You are so logical. I just don't see how you do it. You make good points.
Yup, was Chair-O-Key. But early digging's one thing, frenzied digging's another. Sometimes I wish I could get in the Clue Writer(s) head and *know* these things. Sometimes, even when frustrated and totally clueless (that's most o'the time!) I'm glad I can't because it would take the fun outta it. But I get ssssooo frustrated cuz I just can't get it!
I got the neatest game fur myself for Christmas, "The Riddle of The Sphinx." Ittiz a putter game, a murder/mystery kind'a thing. And like even with things staring me in the face - tho one thing you gotta figure out DOES involve numbers and a combination lock and the counter on a tape recorder!!! - I just can't get them. I thought it would be good practice, you know? And I try and do what Greg says and not make it too hard and to quit reading so much into *it* [whatever puzzle/clue I'm working on], and I STILL can't get it! I can figure out murder mysteries in books... Why can't I figure out The Hunt clues and putter game mysteries?
I beginning to think it's not a learned thing: Like you're good at it or you're not. I keep trying to learn it, practice what I'm taught from the old hands at this Hunt, and it's still just MUD. Ittiz ssssooo frustrating! I want to learn it and I don't think I can!
Damn Hunt. Drives me outta my mind!!!!!!
That is the point though...the year at Cherokee, there were folks digging at Mounds - lots of folks - till darn near the end. I think it was a good trial - and there have been other times since. No damage + no incidents = no issue.
I do believe folks either grasp number things or don't. You can learn basic math by memorizing tables and such - but the understanding of how numbers interrelate is something you're either able to do or not...like an inborn instinct.
Well, that explains why I'm so bad at math!!Don't EVER take my calculator away!!!
Joe!
Marning, Lady! Glad to know I'm not the only math-challenged purrson!
Yes Ter, the year of cherokee was when we were all at Mounds. That also was my first year! Hidden Falls, Highland or Battle Creak, in that particular order. But when the hunt starts, I'll try to clear my noodle of any thoughts, and start anew.
Hay, Tim! Me, too. Noodling *something* now is better than not noodling at all, at least for me. I can't help but noodle. Like a puppy with a bone.
Hay, if Ter can "ace" the park even before the first clue comes out, maybe I'll get lucky and hit on it... some year!
Chair-O-Key was my first year, too! Tho it took me awhile to get there... LOL!!! I was in Battle Creek.
Cherokee was our first *real* year since I moved back from California. I remember kind of doing some noodling in 94-97, but only drove past a couple parks, and never even got out to dig. Course that was when #1 child was a baby, and we were more afraid to leave our precious ones in the hands of others.
Boy, how times change!
Yep--I too went to mounds before Cherokee. There was a clue about "pyramids". While we all now know this referred to the shape of the picnic shelters at Cherokee, many of us thought that could only mean "a pointy burial place". Honestly, if the clue writer was paranoid about senseless idiots desecrating the burial mounds, you think he/she would stay far away from a clue like that. While such a connection may not have been forseen, it got me, and a lot of other people. I personally believe PP did this on purpose--put in a Mound-like clue to see what people how people would behave. If people went grave digging, PP could always say that it was a case of mistaken identity. Ergo--I think all of the "Never at Mounds" speak should be discounted. It could be there right now!
As for math difficulty, I believe that everyone can learn math, as soon as they find some way to relate it to their personal life. When I entered college, I started with remedial math, and finished with 8 quarters of calculus under my belt. It can be done!
WOW, Dave! I'm impressed. GOOD FOR YOU!
Hay, you guys. I need some help here... I need some kind'a good tape. Strong stuff, you know? Like duct tape. But it has to be something that won't hurt like the finish/paint job on a car.
Does such an anjamul even xsist?
Green--try an auto parts store. 3M makes a double faced foam tape with a pretty good adhesive that is used for attaching auto trim. When you want to take it off, apply a little heat with a blow dryer, and it will come off. Maybe there is a 3M employee lurking out there with more info....
Hello Everyone! Isn't it nice that we're all gathering here again?
I agree that folks can learn math - but for some it comes much easier - like there is a brain function that is more finely tuned to understand the abstract concepts that math - especially advanced math can bring.
I relate it to art in my life. I'm a frustrated artist. I see colors, shape, form, shadows, perspective, but try as I might, I have trouble getting that on paper or canvas. I keep studying it though - and trying - someday I'll actually feel comfortable with my efforts.
If I remember the comments about the pyramids and how that translated to burial mounds, I believe it had to do with the fact they were both burial sites. Far reaching thoughts - but that's how it connected.
Also, never apply tape to a vehicle at wintertime temps--see if you can find someone with a heated garage--at least 50 degrees. Helps with the stickiness. My 197,000 mile 92 Taurus is held together by tape!
Thankee, Dave; THANKEE!!!
Would that work with paper? Here's what's going down: MOM GOT THE COOLER CREW MOBILE!!! We're thinking signs on it. Like one on the bock that says, "Follow Us To The Medallion." And on the sides one(s) that everbuddy could sign with markers. Maybe one that lists parks and then they get crossed off as The Crew figures out The Med's not there, or after The Mobile's been there. Something like that.
What do you think? Any ideas? I can prolly get some butcher paper... And I could prolly get some o'that 3M tape...
What do you think would be good? How could this be done? What's some ideas?????????
Terry, I tried water colours *once." Tried to paint "Timmy-willie in a Peapod," and it turned out looking like a t*rd on a leaf! Someday I'd like to take oil lessons.
Downtown DAve, and Santa DAve are the same person? Well don't I feel sheepish!
In order to find the treasure you seek,
Just open your treasure hunters guide and take a peak,
Look for 1980 where the treasure was found,
Go a bit NorthWest and the puck is sitting on the ground!
NICE clue, Tim! In about 15 years, you'll prolly be our next Clue Writer!
Nope, Downtown Dave and Santa Dave are two different folks. Santa Dave *is* also known as DDY, tho. Santa Dave looks just like... Santa! You met him last year at the Re-Hash Bash. And you met Downtown Dave, too... I think.
And a Joe! for Eags!
I know all that, I've met DDY aka Santa, but I just thought I heard someone refer to Downtown as Santa. Oh, where is my clue pointing to? Noodle away!
I tried writing clues and even scouting a site for a summer 'mock hunt' with AllisonWonderland, but it never worked out. I did, though think it was neat to look at that site of the hunt's perspactive. I hope it will help me as well as other coolerheads in this years hunt!
Go Vikings!!
<c><b>testing the html...this is just a test</b></c>
testing the html...this is just a test
Green, how do you get the color tag?
hey steve how are you?
Pretty good Tim, bad cough though. Should be well by this time tomorrow. Do you know how to get the font to change color?
no, sorry. I am having some fun with your book though. did you see my fake clue? hint:page 16
Hunter, colour tag? Whatchew talking about???? I've done nothing... And I'm showing black... ??????
Oh! Hunter! What do you have your computer set for? Is everything coming up green? Could that be it? What your computer's set at???
Bet that's it! What do you have your links set at? Like stuff that comes up with an underline. Is all underlined stuff showing green? If so, that's what it is - your computer settings.
Like, all my links show blue. All else is black.
Very nice clue writing Tim. I see the spot you're talking about. Hey Green, don't chap my hide....just tell me your secret color trick. I need to get Purple because of the Vikings.
Hunter, I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. I'm showing black. I've done nothing. I've not done any HTML because we can't. I think it's what you're computer's set at.
Hey....how come you're font is black?
Hunter, I don't think we can do HTML any more. Green used to have her text to be green, when we could use HTML last year.
We've got a timing issue on our messages...I'll work on the color thing as time passes. I would like to see your green come back though.
Until later T & G, I've got some chores to tackle. Get it, TACKLE.
The Guide
Hi all again!
That's right. The HTML was taken away cuz someone posted on all the boards in huge blue letters - and did so with several posts. Also, you might recall some porn photos showing up here one night. Without the HTML, that kind of thing won't be able to happen again.
I left all my hunting books and stuff down south...bound and determined not to do too much studying this weekend...so I'll have to wait till I'm back south on Monday night to check out that clue.
guess html really doesn't work, oh well.
<font color=green>
See, doesn't work.
Terry, I'm not showing green to you am I????????? I'm a titch confused here...
Green - My take on all this is that Guide was so used to seeing green that he hadn't realized it was black this year.
no green, you aren't green!!!lol
double JOE!!!!
I wonder if <b>bold</b> text still works?
dislike not having HTML, but typing lower case i without turning your post italic is kinda cool!
DOHHHHHHHH!
It's the simpler way of doing things that sometimes works the best. :-)
You are so bold Ter!
Why am I having so much difficulty logging into the water cooler this year?
Dunno, class, but really NICE Joe!
And same to you, Tim.
You know, you guys, ittiz hard being green... LOL!!!
Yes, the HTML did allow for some personality--look at some of E&H Mom's early posts--now that was a font! But sadly, some people's personality leads them to do obnoxious things, so it is gone. Speaking of which, this board is missing something without the chaotic wisdom of my pal, PIE. No one else can go from wisdom to pure insane rage like that boy!
I bet PIE will be back this year.......
Hello! I still need to get to business and noodle that clue, Tim! Thanks for the practice - Lord knows I need it!!!!
Just got back from picking up granola makings, prolly will put that together this afternoon. Not sure what we're gonna do for dinner yet.
I miss my font, too. It's too bad there's not a happy medium, where we could still have a *little* fun. :)
I saw your font when I slogged, Mom. It was very nice. Very you.
I had a box o'Kraft Mac & Cheeze fur dinner. They've this kind now with 40% MORE cheeze. GREAT stuff.
Now I need to get cleaned up and head down to Roberts Street.
Mom, was the house blue and on a corner?
Yep, that's the one....no garage though - way too much $$ for a house with no garage!
Wondered what was keeping that puppy from selling. It's been up for sale for about four months now and for around here that's like four years. It's gone thru like three owners in the last four years. It, as most houses around here, was never on the market for more than maybe two weeks, max.
House just the udder side o'Les? About two years ago, there was actually a bidding war on it! Was only on the market like a matter of HOURS! Man, you should have seen the people to'ing and fro'ing from that place that day!
You'd only been 1.5 blocks east o'the best steaks in the world! About 3 +/- blocks south o'me.
I *thought* we were pretty darned close....
OH well.....I don't think that one's probably the *one*. Keep your eyes open, if you would for any that look both BIG and CHEAP :) lol!
Go Vikings!!! And take the Twins with you.
JAKE!!! How the heck are you??? Hope you've one easy question in your batch Saturday I can answer. Like, maybe, "What colour's The Med???" LOL!!! Nice to see you bock! I'm looking forward to your game. I KNOW it will be fun!!!
And a Joe!, too!
Okay, guys. I'm not getting much help or any ideas on the signs. Your help, knowledge, and xpertise is needed!!!
Also need some suggestions and ideas (Downtown Dave, Ter, Greg, Steve W., you guys should be good with this one) for places to take good sunrise and sunset filmage (is that a word? How about "footage"?) over St. Paul. Need some ideas here folks!
Also, can you think of some places that are well lit at nite that would make for good filming? Xample: Rice Park. Is there a place in Como? What about Highland? (All I could think of were the hockey rinks at Conway... LOL!!!)
Besides McGovern's, where would be a good place to hold one-on-one interviews, indoors, particularly during the day???? Anyone?
Is anyone available/able to interview/meet with the film crews on the 23rd in the afternoon? Also, the evening of the 23rd we need to all get together someplace, possibly McGovern's (maybe not, I'm still working on that - see above question) because the film crews want to get going meeting everyone. As soon as the place is determined, it will be posted here, as well as the time, so all who wish to may come and join in!
One place and time has been determined and anyone that doesn't have to work, can get outta work/school, takes vacation during the hunt, etc., should show up at: 12:00 PM (noon) on Wedensday, January 24th, at Rice Park. They want to do interviews with the ice carvings going on around them. (This, of course, hinges on us not being hot and heavy on the trail o'The Med!!! It couldn't be found THAT soon, could it??????)
Put your thinking caps on, everbuddy! The film crews need our help!
Green - On a clear day, Mounds Park is an excellent place for a good sunset shot with the skyline included. It is a good place for a morning photo as well as the sun begins to illuminate the buildings.
Thankee, Mom!
I just thought o'this... Chair-O-Key. Tho I guess since you're looking north you'd not get much sun rise/set. But what do you think of a nite-time shot? Looking north. Isn't that a pretty good view o'the skyline?
I dunno about Chair-O-Key proper, but from the top of the High Bridge, the Capitol is right smack at the end of the bridge in your view. Could be another good spot.
I saw Dad and Emily at Byerlys tonight! I heard about the new and improved medallion mobile!
Green- the 23rd looks good for me. Here is a crazy out of wack idea- is the conservatory at Como open now? We could ask if we could do interviews in there. I dunno.
Oooohhh! That would be pretty. When I went down to Concord late this afternoon, well - early evening... Oh! The memories! The bridges were all lit up and so beautiful. The First Star "1" was gently pulsating in the fog. You could just barely make out the Capital... It was so beautiful and xcting. I got sparklies and my stomach did flip-flops!
St. Paul's such a pretty city. I just love it.
On a less 'pretty' note, maybe we could use the St. Paul library?
Tim, no idea's crazy and outta wack when a group's brain storming. You never ever know what will be thought up.
Cooler about Byerly's! Yeah, Mom's come thru AGAIN! She's fantastic! I'm gonna make my Chile Cheeze Dip, gulyas, and a SLEW o'chicken wings for folks to nosh on. Diggers and filmers need sustance to keep going and going and going! I can't noodle a clue for diddly so I'm not much help there, but I can cook!
Byerlys! If you go around back of Byerlys you can get the best pic of a sunset ever. I dunno if that is what you want.
I don't know either, Tim, just picking our collective brain as I've been asked to.
I've captured all your ideas... *Where's* Byerly's???
Joe!!!
Tim's talking about the Byerly's by 3M - 94 & WB ave.
You know what??!! Dad didn't even *mention* seeing anyone while they were out until just now! The NERVE!
I felt bad, because I forgot his 'real' name. I looked at him, and said something like "hey dad" it took him a bit to recognize me.
Another good stretch, although it IS nearly the same view as the one from Mounds, is from Shepard/Warner Road going West toward downtown. There have been a few mornings this past week, I could have kicked myself for not having brought the camera with.
The skyline is in full view, and the moon (well, this past week anyway) lights up the river...
Thanks, Mom, for clearing the mud! LOL!!!
I think he's pretty used to answering to "dad" by now :)
Hehehehehe!!!!!!!!!!
Has anyone figured out my little riddle? Note: it is kinda a general area.
That's gotta be close to what I was seeing tonite as I was right above it on 94, rite before the highway turns, when I could see everything. That is pretty. Oh, yes!
Mom, has Dad been slogging or lurking? Has he seen my tag line? LOL!
I've not yet, Tim. I've been a titch preoccupied elsewhere. In fact, I need to go scrounge up Steve's book! I think ittiz still in the backpack!
I doubt it - he doesn't get a lot of putter time - least till he gets his machine fixed up! Would it mean somehting to him?
Yup! :D It was him and his droll perspective (I LOVE his wit!) that gave it to me.
When I got all bent outta shape over my old handle being swiped when they deleted 1998, I had to think of a new one and I was in a BIG hurry to get in here and noodle (I'm sure that doesn't surprise you...) and so I just did green and tossed on the "dot" at the end.
I didn't like it, but Dad said, "Oh. I do. It fits. green... period." And I've loved it ever since.
I'll be sure and pass that on to him - it'll make him smile!
Since green got a period, I decided that I deserve a little asterisk dealy! So now instead of tim_the_hunter it is tim*
the asterisk dealie will read... you shall call him tim and you shall recognize him as the great tim_the_hunter
JOE!!!!
Geez! Things have been busy here. What night is the deal with the documentary people? I have a training to do on the 23rd until 9 or after. I'm not available that night.
As far as good places to photograph - the conservatory at Como is lit at night...and the pavillion by the lake as well. Those are always nice photos day or night.
Any photos at Phalen would have to be during the day...nothing lit out there at night.
Doing a photo of the capitol mall could be interesting - and depending on the time of day, there might be some interesting shadows or highlights on the capitol building itself.
Many of the parks are better photographed during the day as there is not much lit at night.
Kellogg Park would be one exception to that.
There is a nice shot of the downtown skyline from 61 coming into the city from the north.
The evening o'the 23rd, Tuesday. No time or place has been established yet, Ter.
Wednesday, the 24th at 12:00 noon at Rice Park has been. They want to interview with the ice carving going on.
Keep the ideas coming, Ladies and Gents!!!
Shoot! I can't make it the 23rd. Just not doable.
Inside of the lobby of the Xcel energy center?????? We'd have to call first, but there is a sports bar and grill that is open before all home games, I don't know if we could do it any other time, we'd hafta find out.
Not even after 9:00 PM?
That's not going to be the only time, Ter. That's just the first day they get in and they want to get going immediately. What about the evening o'the 24th, Wednesday?
They'll prolly do interviews thru the whole ding-dang Hunt! And afterwards. Tues nite they just want to meet folks and kind'a get them used to the cameras, put names to faces, stuff like that.
There is also some neat photo ops along Mississippi River Blvd...especially at Summit.
Sometime after nine would be okay...like maybe 9:30 or after. I have 50 folks coming for a training that night...and hopefully I won't have to wait with any of them while their rides come for them...but that would be unusual.
Tim*, you're starting to think too much like me! LOL!!!
Have food, will be there!
I actually scheduled that training early in the hunt - figuring on doing some scouting in parks after that.
I love the cameras already, and the camera loves me, naturally!!!! LOL!!!!
How long would they need on Weds? It would be tough, but I may be able to finagle 30-45min. Just MAybe
I bet they'll still be going, Ter. Don't worry.
I think they're going to be there for quite sometime, Tim* At least an hour or so. Be sure to bring your agent... :D
I won't worry - but they may have to meet up with me some other time.
Agent???? WE need agents?(worried) Oh NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! I don't think my mom will let me. (sobs) go on with out me guys!
Tim - I think your mom or dad would qualify as your "agent". Hehehehehe
Again, these are not the ONLY times for interviews or filming. Just times and places they've requested we be if at all possible. They want to get as much interviewing outta the way early on as once The Hunt's well a foot, they'll be chasing after Diggers hot on the trail o'The Med!
Wouldn't it just be la creme de le creme if one o'us found it this year???????
Gods. What I wouldn't give. To have that captured on film.
Ter, you find any muffs, PLEASE do NOT toss them bock!!!!
JOE!!!
Nice Joe Gre. NOte: I'm too lazy to type green.
The good news is that it's never been found in the exact same thing twice - so earmuffs shouldn't even enter into the equation.
Hmmmmmmmmmm, I still am not going to put ANY earmuffs back!!!!
Good idea, Tim!
I'm heading for the sheets. No sense in being sleep deprived yet. There is plenty of time for that.
Goodnight and Sweet Cooler Medallion Dreams!
SCD's Ter. See ya Saturday, talk to ya sooner.
SCDs Ter!
Joe!
Speak for yourself, Terry! I don't mind being sleep deprived during the week - I need to work on getting even *less* sleep. Wonder if I'll still be able to keep my eyes open for the whole drive to work....
Well, Way Cooler Heads, prevail on. I'm gonna toddle.
Need ideas, folks!
SCDs, Mom, Tim*. Catch you guys in the AM!
A few thoughts for you Green. 1. The downtown library branch is currently closed for remodeling. 2. As Suggested before, Warner road coming into downtown is pretty sunset wise. 3. Sunrise could be caught nicely at the small park at the junction of Rasmey Hill and Summit. 4. Just to the east of the capitol in the state parking lot, there is a cool overlook to St. Paul facing east. 5. Another cool sunrise would be that small park on the river side of Miss. Blvd across from the Seminary. 6. Off higway 61, just south of Warner is another cool overlook. 7. Mounds park has a couple of overlooks. 8. If you have connections at 1st Bank, or just beg, the roof of the first bank building is very flat and provides the best view of the city. I used to maintain the antennas up there, but I don't have any more pull. Good luck.
Joe--just can't help myself.
Now that's a NEAT Joe!, DDave! 3-6-9...
I'd thought from the top o'some building would be neat, but had no idea *which* building. I'm glad ittiz them and not me... There is NO WAY I'd go up there! I can't go past the tree line w/o turning to Jello! The First Bank building would be ssssoooo meaningful! GREAT idea!
Your neat ideas for sunrise/sunset footage have been duly recorded. Thanks much!
Can you help anymore with the signs idea? The 3M tape may be just the ticket, but would it work with paper? Is paper a good idea? Should something else be used instead?
Well, bock to a warm bed with Pickles and The Kids. The Cheez-Its were nummy (yawn).
SCDs to all!
I don't think all the shoots would have to include some sort of natural, scenic type beauty. We are an urban center after all, we don't need to look like we're a small prairie town. A shot in front of landmark center, by the big lit up tree in front of the St. Paul Co., the ground floor of the Lawson building on Wabasha has some huge windows that are draped with lights. While its nice to have scenic beauty, it seems to me you're getting away from the "truth" of the documentary if you start shooting places people never go. If you want the person watching the movie to get a sense of what we experience as hunters, it seems they should be a part of the same environment, even if its just a background shot. So a shot inside McGovern's would be good. By the ice sculptures in Rice Park (which personally I'd be surprised if they had any of them there with the construction going on in the park, as the whole park is fenced off. I think most of it will be on Ecolab plaza). A shot with the snow slide or ice maze in the background might not be picturesque, but it would show what the Winter Carnival is about. So would a shot in front of the snow sculptures.
If they need bright places at night, maybe it would be best to stay indoors. A lot of my memories involve sitting here at my computer. Thus a shot of someone in their home with their computer in the background, while again not picturesque, would be entirely appropriate to giving the viewer a sense of the environment we operate in. I also remember after hours of hunting, taking a break to eat and going for food. So a shot in somewhere like The Tuscany Grill or Perkins would also be appropriate (though probably easier in the case of the first option).
So I can't see shooting somewhere like the top of a building, since none of us ever go to the tops of buildings in our hunting, and thus such a location wouldn't resonate any of that hunting energy. How much more excited would you be to talk about your experiences if you were under the pavilions of Cherokee, or by the hockey rinks of Conway, or the firepit of Newell? It seems to me those are the best places to talk to people because then they can't help but become immersed in the spirit of what they're being interviewed about.
Good Morning!
Snowing up north here today and ittiz beautifuller!
I think getting some overviews of the city would be great. I'm sure there will be plenty of down and digging type shots. I often think, as I first start noodling clues, as the city as a whole and which direction to go. I don't think we need to worry that we'll come off as some prairie town.
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