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jk highlander
Right by United Hospital!! Y2G, I agree...plus the area is way to ritzy...big money...pissed off taxpayers. For Future refrence, the Alexander Ramsey house is right there as well.
Yep united....oops.
George, I am not sure which direction the towers to be in. I am not good at directions.
The park I was talking about earlier is not Kellogg, but under Kellogg and along Sheppard Road and it curves around the river to the bluffs and runs along the RR tracks. Does anyone know what that park's name is?
George or Mac: can you fit the Astute - Statue thing in there somewhere?
on north side of the river, under Kellogg. Not sure if there is a park there??? but i dont really know
On the south side of river, there is Lilydale Regional Park, the entry portion to the east is run by St. paul Parks, but is actually in Lilydale, which is Outside Ramsey County (Dakota), so I say that's outside the boundaries.
I know what you are speaking of...it is there along shepard road east of sibley. I believe it is called lower landing.
ON north side of river, bike path starts at top of hill, follows Shepard road, but no RR track. I am not sure that land has a name, but its a cool bike trail if you can put up with traffic. At Shepard an Warner division (Jackson,) there is another seperated trail, that goes to Child's road. Darned if I know the name of that stretch, but it is by RR track. But the clue would have to say water, or boat, or train, or something pretty soon.......
Of course, it has view of airport, for those who like to tie Holman field to "ace", got that big beacon on the bluff at Mounds easily visible for tower one, and big Cemstone plant at Childs for tower too, possibly a cell tower or two....
T minus 60 minutes and counting.....
mississippi gorge
Only an hour until we all sigh a collective "Huh?"
AAAAAAAAHHHHHH-MENNNNNN.
JAH MAN
hey marley, you got the Chant to Babylon CD??
yes man
its a good one, really like track 2 and 7, but usually just put it in and push play
rastaman chant, kinky reggae did you wacth tnt special
nah sorry i missed that
Best Marley song: Buffalo Soldier....and No Woman No Cry
That stretch is called Lower Landing or Lambert's Landing.
sort of a live version of the cd, its all good
Thanks, Schletdogg - Lambert's Landing! I can never think of that. Anyway - it was gonna bug me till I found out. Oh well - I am no good at this hunting, and never found anyone that would like to go hunting with me - so mainly its trying to find it while still indoors (looking at the watercooler, the clues, the maps, etc.) until I drive myself crazy. If I think after another clue that it could be a downtown park I would go and check it out. Hopefully this year I will actually get outside looking for the darn thing.
Annette, there's a group of us called the Cooler Crew who kind of work together during the hunt as well as do other things throughout the year. If you really want to not hunt alone, let us know and you can always hang out with us.
Somplace to gain relief from the rain. Will serve to help as your looking Read this well and you might obtain A clue that will really get you cooking
Annette - my husband doesn't really want to hunt so I am always looking for people to hunt with.
got the clue from the other sight, used a cell phone and someone down at the PP
Is this the clue???
YEP
Sounds strightforward enough. Picnic facilities.
Somplace to gain relief from the rain. Will serve to help as your looking Read this well and you might obtain A clue that will really get you cooking
Hmmmm
Kinda depressing clue. Are there are parks with wells?
Yeah for sure, Grills and a pavilion. NEwell, Cherokee COmo, Phalen
DOenst narrow it down much
Also Hidden Falls and Highland as well
Serve...park has tennis courts?
well i guess i can say that i wasnt expecting much from this one anyway
BUT, still no mention of water. That could knock some parks out of the running possibly.
That doesnt narrow it down much either Highlander
George...just give it till tomarrow...someone will have some crazy ideas :)
I'm glad my Parks and Rec expertise was of value to you. I work in every city park during the summers, so I feel that I know them well. So far, the clues have pointed to Swede Hollow or Highland for me. Swede Hollow, because of the vikings depression clue, profitable profession (the old Hamm's mansion used to be on the cuurent site and they profitted big-time from their brewery), and the state U clue. I don't know about viewing towers from Swede Hollow, so my enthusiasm for this park has dwindled. Everything makes sense at Highland near the track and tennis courts at the south side of the water towers. However, as a Parks and rec employee, I believe this is considered Highland High School's land and not a city park. Plus, the PP wouldn't want us digging up their football field.
Highland has tennis courts...Montreal at Snelling and another lesser known one just south of the resivors.
Tomorrow....give them like 20 minutes and we will all be talkin about UN pilots again
yeah, but isn't anything across the street from the H.S. considered part of Highland park?
pretty much
Has anyone gone with anagrams yet on this clue? "read this well"
A profitable profession could relate to prostitution...there was once such a house located where they built the new Science Museum.
Ihavent seen any anagrams yet, i have to rely on others for those not exactly my thing
no
Allison Wonderland & Leelabell- I appreciate the offers. It would be great to go hunting w/ someone. Perhaps I will just go to one of the parks this weekend and just look and get vibes from others on what their ideas are.
Hey everyone, I don't know if you now yet, but the clue is now up at my page! www.medallionhunt.8m.com
Longshot Someplace to gain.... Will serve... Read this well... A clue that...
SWRA - South West Regional Area?
its a stretch highlander, but half of the clue explanations are a stretch
How about this...the towers are visible from under an overhang at one of the parks? might want to check that out
WHere do you think Highlander???
Hi all,
Just coming in and anxiously awaii\ting. They had me worried about and hour ago or so...couldn't get on here for nothing.
I am still stuck on Highland...hence the name Highlander :)
Hi all,
Just coming in and anxiously awaii\ting. They had me worried about and hour ago or so...couldn't get on here for nothing.
I may take a drive by highland tomarrow...
Hi all,
Just coming in and anxiously awaii\ting. They had me worried about and hour ago or so...couldn't get on here for nothing.
Shovel Master...Whats up with the repeat messages????
Hi all,
Just coming in and anxiously awaii\ting. They had me worried about and hour ago or so...couldn't get on here for nothing.
Hey Shovel Master! you got the clue yet? If you don't, I have it on my site. www.medallionhunt.8m.com
whats up pat and scot going out tonight
so many thoughts... New obsession from clue 1 + well = Newell? The clue still seems pretty vague as to the park, seems to just be giving the location in the park, near concessions? How about this... Read, reading railroad in Monopoly? Any thoughts?
Does anyone realize it does you no good to go out and dig tonight?
Well...I just found out that those were happening. I dont see them as dupes, so you'll have to forgive me. I am using Netscape, and when I click reload to refresh and bring up new posts, it asks me if I want to repost data...I think that is what's doing it. But if I tell it not to, it wont load the new messages. If there's a better way, by all means, please let me know.. I dont wanna drive you all insane. Shovelling will do that all by itself.
Somplace to gain relief from the rain. Will serve to help as your looking Read this well and you might obtain A clue that will really get you cooking
Interesting!
Some places to gain relief from the rain
Will serve to help you as you're looking
Read this well and you just might obtain
A clue that will really get you cooking.
ShovelMaster - After each poster's name are two numbers. One is blue. Click on that and it will refresh the page without reposting your posts.
has anyone else ever heard of a readwell. Cooking - BBQs, Rain - shelter
Is that Pie actually coming in with some helpful information???
How come the clue isn't on the PP WEB site yet!
They just built that whole new picnic/BBQ thing a Como? but nothing else really fits...
Pie can be helpful instead of mixin yall up!
I am also an on the spot reporter to give yall up to date info on how all the diggers are doing!
I had a nice person from my chatroom call my cell with the clue at 11:20. That's why it's on my site and not the PP's site
Pie, You are a waste of oxygen.
Cherokee Heights, Como, Crosby, Hidden Falls, Highland, Mounds, Newell, and Phalen. Those are your choices now. A much more useful clue than it might seem.
Is someone going to write down on this site the 4th clue?
Get the 4th clue at www.medallionhunt.8m.com
it's already on here lindsay
Thanks Derick.
Well this clue didn't narrow too much...I am gonna get outta here. I'll bring more insights with me tomarrow. Catch ya later George
I am really thinking that Phalen just might be it....Look towards King Boreas....in the last clue.... King boreas lived in an ice palace just like the one that they made back a couple of years ago...the set your own pace... they have a jogging trail and bike trail.... and now the pavillion that they are refering too... what do you all think?
The anagram must be "WARS."
ALison- Are those the only parks that have picknick areas with overhands?
wars???????
WHERE is the 4th clue?
theyn havent even posted it on the pp web site yet!
Yes, those are the only ones with bona fide shelters for picnics according to the Treasure Hunter's Guide.
If nothing else, this clue rules out the capital.
Some places to gain relief from the rain
Will serve to help you as you're looking
Read this well and you just might obtain
A clue that will really get you cooking.
I know, but some postings have said it has already been on these pages???
Here ya go!
Clue 4: 1/26/2000
Some places to gain relief from the rain Will serve to help you as your looking Read this well and you just might obtain A clue that will really get you cooking
Okay...off to dig. Gotta start sometime.
Clue 4: 1/26/2000
Some places to gain relief from the rain.
Will serve to help you as your looking.
Read this well and you just might obtain.
A clue that will really get you cooking.
Alison, do you think there is more to this clue than just telling us it's in a park with shelters?
"read this well" has me thinking that there's a hiden meaning here . . .
How come so late on PP and where did you guys get the clue..I was gone for about 30 minutes, should of known better!
Thanks for posting it again...
its at cherokee again?
There might be a hidden meaning, but I've not seen it yet. And it placeS eh? So there must be more than one shelter...
WW--what makes you think that?
Ok, load up the wagon, mama, we're goin' diggin'
read this well.... new WELL??? just noodling
it fits it all, but then i fit all the clues too, and im not even a park!
if we look at you we see 2 towers??? are you the medallion?? winger???
Please lets not start the NEWELL stuff all over again this year!
no, but i live in 2 towers
As much as I hate to bring this up,here goes.
how about serve and cooking = butler??? Newell???
Alison, does that list of parks with picnic shelters really cover them all? Though the medallion wouldn't be hidden there this year, Harriet Island wasn't included.
still havent got a clue yet on my browser, but their seems to be 2 shelters, and cooking crap around. cherokee has that, como does, i dont know of more than one shelter at highland, but their might be. newell just has one shelter
Anyone notice it is past midnight, and the PP site hasn't updated the site??
this is only my second year really getting out into the hype....why does everyone think of newell???
yes and it is making me mad!! I want to print it out and it isn't there....
Like the idea from the first letters of the clue: S=south W=west R=regional A=area
There are two shelters at Newell. They sit side by side on the Pierce Butler side of the park.
I didn't see any picnic shelters on my map, nor do I remember seeing any there.
With the cash being much higher this year, you gotta think that they'll keep it in relatively larger parks this year.
Duff, as much as I hate newell, the butler line is pretty good.
I thought i read something before but I'm not sure...do king boreas and the ice castle have anything in common?
Clue No. 4: from last year
Studying the past can be quite a blast
But there's value as well in the new
If you're willing to be an iconoclast
The treasure might belong to you
[Many treasure seekers "study the past" in hopes that previous hunts will help them predict where the medallion might be hidden. This year, however, there was "value in the new" because the medallion was concealed at Conway Park for the first time. Therefore, a successful hunter had to be an "iconoclast" -- someone willing to break the old mold by searching in a new place.]
The ice castle is the theoretical home of Boreas, when we have one.
thanks terry, sorry for the bad info
take those first letters, flip the "W" upside down, mix them all around and you have "RAMS" . . .
The Medallion is hidden in St. Louis this year because the Rams beat the Vikings!!!!
I'm heading out to Priceline.com for my airline ticket right now!
Allison - I have rented those shelters for a program I did. Trust me. The shelters are there.
as mythology has it boreas lived in minnestoa during the winter months in an ice palace
If the SWRA clue is really a clue, then we're left with Cherokee, Highland, Crosby and Hidden Falls
harriet island had the last castle
Is it just me or did they not load the new clue? I just got back from the Library.
Where else can you gain releif?
You can on a golf course. Get relief from medicine? Rolaids
Any others?
Is it just me or did they not load the new clue? I just got back from the Library.
Well I'll be damned....
I don't get the butler = newell connection
Pierce Butler?
Barring some hidden meaning, here is what I get from this clue.
Some sort of shelter. Serve = Tennis courts, Cooking = grills
There is one shelter at Newell.
man, you guys read WAY WAY too far into these clues....
Howdy Chris, Terry, Bob, and everyone else. Well, I'm off to work, then I have the rest of the hunt off. See ya out there.
I am still baffled because the PP has not released the clue on the wintercarnival site. This has never happened before. NOt that I can remember
It could be in an umbrella bu that is kinda large to hide it it, There is a shelter at Kelloge they set up for the WC I don't know what its for. But Cooking does make me think of picnic shelters. Phalen has several shelters, I have also rented the two shelters at Newel
Some places to gain relief from the rain.
Will serve to help you as your looking.
Read this well and you just might obtain.
A clue that will really get you cooking
Still, Harriet Island has a lot of construction and it was just there recently and there's been no mention of water, so I don't think its there. Maybe they are under the big note in the map that says the park is closed and under construction.
They would go and put it in Newell, just to piss me off I bet.
Hey Ian! Don't work too hard. Save up that energy for digging!
There is one indoor shelter at Newell and two smaller concrete shelters.
Did clue 4 ever make it up? My browser will not load it. I have tried netscape and explorer with no success. Will someone please post it or refer to a posting with the clue. Thanks
Are there any grills at Newell? And if so, how many?
I would asy that the key words to this clue are WELL & SERVE
there are shelters at every park in St. Paul!!!
#4 is still not up
Serve is another tennis term, is ther a shelter for tennis players??
New twist to the RAMS inverted anagram theory:
Guess what road goes through Mounds Park? WARNER ROAD!!!
4 is up at www.medallionhunt.8m.com
Birdie--
Go to www.medallionhunt.8m.com
I was at the chatroom when Derick got the clue at 11:20 man
This whole thing is a set up! They had to know that that Vikes would lose! And that St. Louis would beat Tampa! That explains those horrible last second instant replay calls by the "upstairs" officials!!!
Not every park has a picnic shelter, which is what I take this to mean.
I jus think it is weird that the PP site doesn't have it up
how do you guys know that is the real clue? the only official one is the one posted on the pioneer press website (which hasn't happened yet). I'm not buying any of this until I see it on pioneerplanet. Anyone else agree?
There is hell to be paid tomorrow for whomever messed up at the PP. Someone is going to get their butt chewed over this one.
Have we been able to cross reference our list of possible parks with shelters with those that have views of a tower or two to the north or toward downtown?
Alison, can you cross reference the parks with shelters and the parks with tennis courts?
I kind of agree vikesfan, I have gained respect for Derick, so I am going with him but he got the clue at 11:20. Has the clue EVER came out before 11:30?
Newell has tennis courts - just across Fairview.
I agree with vikesfan. It's not that I don't trust Derick (though he misspelled "your" in line 2 which screwed me up). But every year some crack comes through and claims they are an insider at PP. Or that they are the sysop of the site. Or something like that.
Vikesfan!!! The OFFICIAL clue is also put in the paper and released at 11:00! I had someone call me with the clue! You can be ignorant and not believe 30 people, but is that really a smart idea??
I know mounds still fits real well, but I am sure all large parks do at this time.
how would have the other website gotten the clue? somehow, i think this is trying to lead us astray
Terry, are those tennis courts IN Newell park? or jus nearby?
Cherokee has several shelters, tennis courts and views to the north. I'll keep checking the others as I go.
I love this part of The Hunt!
First, can anyone tell me about battle, i have never been there. Can you see downtown, is it high or low ? Clue 4, could it refer to a bus shelter in front of a popular restaurant?
They are considered part of the park.
The courts are across the street from Newell but they are apart of the park if I remember right. Dug there last year
The tennis courts are considred part of Newel;l but are accross the street form the main part of the park
derick, why isn't the clue on the website? it said the next clue would come at 12:05 and it is now about 12:40.
Derick, got any idea why the PP has not released the clue on here?
Hey Vikes, its the real clue okay. Its not even close to the end to worry about being lead astray. I trust Derick so should you. I am off because I got an 8 o'clock class. Good luck Terry and Allison. My vote still lies with Highland.
Last year they had a typo in one of the last clues that really meesed up the meaning! It was pretty incredible to see all the people run when I discovered th TYPO!!!!
anyone call the PP yet to ask why?
Server errors, or they got pissed off that I published at 11:20????
I'm not going to Newell for another four clues, just on principle
Cherokee, Como must have them somewhere, don't see any in Hidden Falls, Highland does, so does Mounds and Newell, can't claim to see any in Phalen. I always thought the tennis connection was pretty shaky though.
Allison--Oh it's at Phalen, baby.
It is wierd that the PP hasn't posted it yet!
I think they are doing it on purpose to get a crowd for thursday night contest down at the PP!
So did I until serve came up again, and when I think of an ace I think of Tennis or Airport?
I agree about not heading out to Newell for a few more clues
anyone gunna call down to the PP and ask why it isn't up?
Como does have tennis courts in zone 3 if you're using the guide, but shelters don't seem to be nearby at all. There's the butterfly ones in zone 2 and the pavillion in zone 6 but that's all I can find there.
One other thing yall might want to consider is that the medallion might not even be placed until the last couple of days!
It's another way for the WC to get people excited over a two week period! It raises money and gets people out to events!
I really can't see putting it at Como when it was there just 3 years ago.
At this point I think tennis courts hold water. Clue one "try a new obsession" and clue 2 "ace" can be read that way . . .
It just hit me, "carefull inspection" from clue three is an important phrase
THIS SUCKS! Did the PP offices move out west and they are confused by the time? Has the medallion been found?
They have said that last year the medallion hadn't been placed until the last day!
what's up with the PP? someone should be getting fired for this. anyways, if this clue is the real one, it still points to Highland allthough all the locations they refer to are relatively apart from each other.
the clue is at:
www.medallionhunt.8m.com!!
Settle down they will post it, with all this snow it will not be found till next week.
Hey Pie, if that's the case, why did a was it found it in Battle Creek after, what, 4 or 5 clues a few years back?
I really think they have delayed laying it to enhance the WC!
If someone finds it by clue 6 it could wreck the WC on a cold year!
PIE -
Medallion has been found by clue 6 sometime in the past five years.
It is out there as we speak, be sure of it.
Allison, I agree about Como. As I look at Phalen, though it doesn't have tennis courts, I'm noticing a pumphouse in zone 4. Could that be a connection to "well"?
dont see where the towers would be at highland. the water towers are in the west
maybe they are rewriting the clue?
Well kids, I must be off and running.
Keep having fun with this clue though!
LOL!
if you are by the track and the tennis courts, it is north
?
Hmmm, Highland does have two shelters, but they are fairly far apart.
west is west. montreal ave run east/west
It's already been hidden - well covered up by the last 2 snowfalls... You've all been out there towards the end and don't you think there are WAY too many people out there for someone not to see someone hiding it (especially as far under the snow as it has been in the last couple years)?
BIG OL BRONCO JANE HERE!
I just tried calling PP but was not able to get a person, just a recording
Tiny Thumbs-- why are you so sure that the word "Ace" is definately tennis??
Maybe the medallion is hidden in a playing card box.... Maybe ace simply refers to a winner.... Even though you can't go on them, maybe it is near a par 3 hole on a course.
No part of the clue except for the word ace has anything to do with tennis.
the clue says that if you look in the direction of boreas (north), you will see the towers. According to where I think the medallion is, that is very true.
OK, here's a stretch, but work with me...
Look towards King Boreas. We're looking north, right? What if it's on the north side of Highland, and you need to look south, looking towards MONTREAL AVE ?
medallionstallion - 1871 is a gem!
Allison - Battle has big ol' picnic shelters, and I THINK there are 2 WATERtowers in view, but did that clue even mention water?
you can see downtown from battle
But are the shelters in Battle Creek on the Maplewood side?
it can still be on the north side of montreal as long as you aren't past the towers.
Battle Creek is huge and can easily fit these clues, I was out there quite a bit last year
step, I'm not locked into tennis (though serve also ties in as could chase for that matter, at least when I play!). I'm just checking out possibilities. I wouldn't be surprised if ace referred to the First Bank building neon sign which hopefully one can see from whichever park it ends up being. What are you thinking?
if you know treasure hunt history, they will not go back to phalen or mounds park. i do find it odd that their has been no mention of water. is their anyparks you can see no water from? newell is probally the closest for lack of water, but way over by the fair grouds their a statefair water tower you can make out in the distance, but you still see it!
--if it is in the north side of highland isn't that the golf course?
One good thing, was out tinkering in the snow and it is pretty light and easy to move around, except the hardened clumps on the outer edges.
Tiny--
I am thinking no doubt so far it's Phalen.
I know that park very well and the clues fit like a glove so far (although the clues still could work with any park.)
I got a spot I'm checking tomorrow and if i have no luck...i'm waiting for more clues.
it says you will cause a rebellion if you go where golfers cavort (gather). i'm pretty sure that means that its at a golf course (or specifically a clubhouse).
Isn't the north side of montreal by the water towers golf course?
you cant hunt on a golf course
"ACE" could refer to a baseball pitcher....."PACE" is how much stuff the pitcher has ...& "Chase" as in a pennant chase.
The northeast section of highland is not the golf course, it's searchable park. It's the northwest section and southwest section that are golf courses.
Possible references for Ace other than tennis:
fighter pilot (StP airport?) cards (Heart? Spade? Club? Diamond?) a domino (hey, it was in the dictionary)
There are shelters on the St. Paul side too, however, they are kinda in the vicinity of "the sledding hill", which, if memory serves me right, was referred to in that year's clues
You could search on or near a Frisbee golf course......
Where exactly are the towers in Highland?
right along snelling avenue
Battle Creek falls in my too recent category anyway. Its never been in the same park less than six years apart, and its only been 5 years for Battle Creek. 6 years for Highland.
Battle Creek is so close to Conway as well.
Near the track and tennis courts at Highland still sounds like the best bet to me, assuming that this is considered property of the Parks system more so than Highland High School's domain.
Other thoughts: The small park across the street from Newell is called May and has a separate identity. I think this is the area to which you guys referred when you spoke of the tennis courts. Also, Battle Creek recently was handed over to the Ramsey County Parks department for maintenance by St. Paul Parks and Rec. I don't know if this changes its identity as a "St. Paul Park".
Still falls within the City limits of st. Pual, however some parts of it are in Maplewood.
I finally made it after slogging an hour!
Hay, Allison, Terry! See ya Ian, Stallion and Hollywood.
This has *not* been MomPlant's or MomPress's day!
well, i still don't know what to say until the real clue comes out on the PP website. My bet is that it is still in Highland. Catch you guys tomorrow.
Hey Green!
go down to 345 Cedar street with a quarter and buy a paper
Except for a possible typo, I'd have to think the clue was real. If not, we'll all know by morning and that's the end of Derek's credibility permanently.
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