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The Medallion Hunt

It's time for the Medallion Hunt! The first clue will appear on PioneerPlanet just after midnight Saturday, Jan. 22. Come back here to compare notes with other treasure seekers, but be certain you read the rules on the Planet's Winter Carnival page.

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calvinator - 04:26pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3002 of 22131)

People may think I am crazy, but I think that Como and Pahlen shouldn't be ruled out yet

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Bill King - 04:27pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3003 of 22131)

do like the kstp theory!! Haven't thought of that.

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Bill King - 04:28pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3004 of 22131)

Phalen had over 1000 lawsuits coming from the hunt, do you think they would risk that again?

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flipnat - 04:28pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3005 of 22131)

THEY DID NOT HAVE TROUBLE AT PHALEN I THOUGH IT WAS WAKEFIELD PARK IN MAPLEWOOD .PHALEN IS PARTLY IN ST PAUL.

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Birdie15 - 04:29pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3006 of 22131)

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I got Newell from that Gonna Get It This Year. Newell has a baseball diamond, tennis courts, and a basketball hoop. Also. Fairview FAIRway scene-View FAIRVIEW 9+5+4= 18 18 Wheeler= Wheeler St. Who was the president 150 years ago? Taylor= TAYLOR st. All these streets run into Newell? I dunno

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Gonna get it this year - 04:29pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3007 of 22131)

5 on 5 is full strength though...justa shot in the dark, KS95 is good

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Bill King - 04:29pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3008 of 22131)

Yes they did. I have friends who won in the lawsuit.

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Wampa2 - 04:29pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3009 of 22131)

Mel

Nothing should be ruled out yet!

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calvinator - 04:30pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3010 of 22131)

I may have jumped in the chat a little late, but I was wondering what anyone else thought of the "flying downhill" idea? Could it be downhill skiing, if that's the case it points to como.

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The Map Master - 04:30pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3011 of 22131)

Hide It and They Will Dig

Just for the information .... There is a fisbee golf tournament at Highland this weekend as part of the winter carnival.

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I Can C IT Now - 04:31pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3012 of 22131)

so how many think that its at Newell???

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Bill King - 04:32pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3013 of 22131)

Newell has a lot to look at too. But they don't have a golf course. Unless they are telling us to rule out parks with golf courses.

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Coni - 04:33pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3014 of 22131)

I wouldn't rule out Como Park at all since there is a golf course, and my kids go sledding there.

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Bill King - 04:33pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3015 of 22131)

Battle Creek has a ski jump by it Mel

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Dave Stone - 04:33pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3016 of 22131)

I was at Newell over lunch. No one there but the usual lunch crowd. Nobody got out a shovel. However, the popular outdoor attraction alluded to could be Midway Stadium--very close, and probably the only outdoor attraction in the Saintly City of any size...

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tints20 - 04:34pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3017 of 22131)

think that PHALEN is a great golf cousre and it shouldnt be wrecked by the medallion hunt. Its great that they told everyone first hand that it wasn't on a golf course

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I Can C IT Now - 04:34pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3018 of 22131)

think that newell has it if there serious on "no golf" course but if not it would then be at como.

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tints20 - 04:36pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3019 of 22131)

man do i want to win the medallion hunt

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Gonna get it this year - 04:36pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3020 of 22131)

There has to be a golf course, why else would they warn us??

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Dave Stone - 04:36pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3021 of 22131)

As for Mounds Park being ruled out, in last years hunt, the clues referred to "pyarmids"--this sent hundreds searching on the first Saturday of the hunt--no one challenged the Mounds. I think if they were scared of people messing up the burial grounds, they would have nixed that clue. After all, people are going to go there whether or not it buried there, so what the heck....

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Birdie15 - 04:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3022 of 22131)

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I feel that When the PP said a Golf Course is not, follow this advice and you won't be caught at the wrong scene, they were saying that it is at a park without a golf course. Also, # could mean the scoreboard at Midway Stadium. Also, front door could mean the doors at Newell Rec building. I dunno

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calvinator - 04:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3023 of 22131)

Ok here's what I think... I think that highland would be a good bet because of the 2 golf course, but phalen has a golf course, baseball diamonds, tennis courts that could be where the numbers and score thing come from, but the downhill has me confused, same with the front door.

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Pat Pfundstein - 04:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3024 of 22131)

At least I'm housebroken

As the founder of Newell Mania (and yes I try to stir it up every year) I doubt all of the clues that 'point right to Newell'. The more park-specific the clues get early, the less likely the prize will be found in a small park such as Newell. Review the clues from past years at coolercrew.com and you will see that only the large parks are 'given away' early. Otherwise the hunt has little chance of lasting more than a few days.

That said however, my medallion sniffing hound Sassafras and I just returned from a digging expedition at Newell, and we are sure to find the treasure any day now.

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I Can C IT Now - 04:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3025 of 22131)

I think that there serious on not being at a golf course. Just a thought though

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Medallionhound - 04:38pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3026 of 22131)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

Because people could be digging in the wrong park that has a golf course and do damage.

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Gonna get it this year - 04:44pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3027 of 22131)

went to Phalen last night, checked the fields, skating rinks, courts, no sign of a 945, lasst night they were saying the positions 9-4-5 make a straight line from 3rd to 2nd to right field???

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Birdie15 - 04:44pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3028 of 22131)

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Pat, I was at Newell at about 3:30, no one was there. I think the prize will be lined up with a house with the address ??95 and it will be with a circle of 4 trees. Also in line with the doors at the Newell service building

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Pat Pfundstein - 04:45pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3029 of 22131)

At least I'm housebroken

Don't be too sure there has to be a golf course for the Mom Press to warn people off of them. Last year people were digging up Mounds Park long after it was obvious the medallion was at Cherokee. Two years ago people were digging in the Frog Pond for over a week after it was obviously out in a field nearby. This despite the fact that every inch had been excavated multiple times.

Every year someone thinks it is on a golf course (including this year despite the explicit notice that it is not), so a warning is always in order regardless of the site.

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Dave Stone - 04:47pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3030 of 22131)

I think it's Highland--the airport is just down the hill.....

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Ian - 04:49pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3031 of 22131)

"gettin' ready"

Make that hound earn its keep, Pat.

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Pat Pfundstein - 04:49pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3032 of 22131)

At least I'm housebroken

birdie 15, they never ever ever ever ever give away the kind of information you are talking about this early in the game. Ever. The most you can hope for are some basic information that becomes clearer with the later clues, along with a possible hint at what the medallion is hidden in. If I am wrong, though, I will gladly toast you at the re-hash Bash on 2/7. I've got to bolt now, I'll check back, later.

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Duff - 04:51pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3033 of 22131)

I really think it is at a large park this year, which rules in the golf course parks and rules out Newell. If it is at a small park then I bet the clues don't lead us to the park unitl next monday. I hope not

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Dave Stone - 04:51pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3034 of 22131)

I actually succumbed to Newell mania, thinking that the address is close to 945 Fairview, it's actually 920....Saint Paul is my home, but it has the most bizarre house numbering system

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Pat Pfundstein - 04:51pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3035 of 22131)

At least I'm housebroken

Hey Ian. Long time no talk to you (that was a pretty ugly attempt at communication!). Sorry I have zolt now, but Happy Hunting! Sass is my secret weapon this year.

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Hollywood - 04:53pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3036 of 22131)

Look Over There! It's the Capital Dome!!!! (Jimmy Stewart - 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington')

Help!!!

Where may I find the 'offical rules' online???? Just checked at www.winter-carnival.com and no luck.....

Thanks!

Dave

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Hollywood - 04:53pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3037 of 22131)

Look Over There! It's the Capital Dome!!!! (Jimmy Stewart - 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington')

Help!!!

Where may I find the 'offical rules' online???? Just checked at www.winter-carnival.com and no luck.....

Thanks!

Dave

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Birdie15 - 04:57pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3038 of 22131)

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Maybe they are given all this info so people will all go to Newell, but then if you go back to clue #2, it says stay away from the action so maybe they want people to go to Newell, then in clue 6-7 they will flip it around and lead us to another park. I dunno

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Dave Stone - 04:57pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3039 of 22131)

Official Rules should be here at Pioneer Planet--they are published every day in the local section of the PP--Treasure Hunt is not run by Winter Carnival--just the folks at the paper...

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Birdie15 - 04:59pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3040 of 22131)

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Dave Stone - 04:59pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3041 of 22131)

Official Rules should be here at Pioneer Planet--they are published every day in the local section of the PP--Treasure Hunt is not run by Winter Carnival--just the folks at the paper...

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SNAKE - 05:01pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3042 of 22131)

1988 FINDER

think is already been found

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calvinator - 05:02pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3043 of 22131)

What about the theory of "flying downhill" and Downhill skiing????

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carol perkins - 05:07pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3044 of 22131)

How about a hill that you would go tubing or slidding down next to a baseball or tennis court...

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calvinator - 05:09pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3045 of 22131)

See I am thinking that it has something to do with skiing or sliding, but Como has Downhill skiing so....

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Ms. Milwaukee - 05:23pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3046 of 22131)

What could be the downhill thrill at newell?

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Fever has begun - 05:28pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3047 of 22131)

Your all nuts, nobody has a "clue" yet!!(including me!!

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Ms. Milwaukee - 05:29pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3048 of 22131)

good point fever.

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Fever has begun - 05:33pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3049 of 22131)

I'll be in line starting friday night acting like I KNOW EVERYTHING, just like every year. Well actually, I did know everything in 97, but that didn't help my sorry butt either!!

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The Boss - 05:36pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3050 of 22131)

the only downhill thrill at newell is a small childrens slide

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The Boss - 05:39pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3051 of 22131)

has anybody else actually done much searching? i ve been out a couple times and not seem much activity

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Ms. Milwaukee - 05:41pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3052 of 22131)

Boss, I drove by crosby today and there were people diggin, but I don't believe they had a clue as to what they were doing. No action at newell all day though.

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Dave - 05:42pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3053 of 22131)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Yeah its been found, only 14+ inches of snow on the ground with 4 more inches coming tonite, not to mention the fact that I have been to 4 big parks now and only saw a total of 1 person looking. Morons, if you think it could possibly be found before #8!

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Vicki Kasal - 05:44pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3054 of 22131)

Hi Dave! I totally agree with you! Won't be found for a little while!

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Bryan D Whaley - 05:48pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3055 of 22131)

I have a feeling it is going to be in a small park. Hasn't been in a small one for a few years.

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Dave - 05:49pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3056 of 22131)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Hi Vicki! Spent some time looking back at clues for old hunts, after the 4th clue you can usually narrow the search to 2-3 parks, hopefully tonite will fall in with past clues. The fifth clue will usually be enough to clue in those that are really on their sh*t. So everybody get those shovels and rakes and hoes by the front door, cause we're a day away from diggin up the city!

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Vicki Kasal - 05:51pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3057 of 22131)

hwy 5 does not intersect with Battle Creek, sorry try again. The streets that encompass BattleCreek are: mcknight rd,upperafton rd, winthrop st, lowerafton rd and BattleCreek Rd. Its like two blocks from 94 though. Highland is off from West 7th st and 35E, and West 7th is hwy 5, or at least it turns into 5 as it merges with 494

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Bryan D Whaley - 05:54pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3058 of 22131)

I think the flying might have to do with the St. Paul airport, which is visible from mounds park. And there is a big sledding hill there for outdoor popular attraction.

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Dave - 05:55pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3059 of 22131)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Yeah, I noticed that earlier too. They do come close to meeting outside downtown near Mounds Park and Swede Hollow Park on my map. But I really think they want the nine & five to go with keeping score and the four to adorn a front door, they would be consistent with past clue writing that was sensible like that.

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Vicki Kasal - 05:58pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3060 of 22131)

I'm excited for the next clue

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Bryan D Whaley - 05:58pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3061 of 22131)

The next clue better be a helpful one. That is all I have to say.

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Ian - 05:59pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3062 of 22131)

"gettin' ready"

Vicki, were you at McGovern's on Sat. ??

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Dave - 06:00pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3063 of 22131)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Pretty sure numbers nine(refers to baseball/softball field) and five(refers to basketball court). Then a Four would be within view, maybe an address on a house(like 4 S. Owasso), maybe a big 4 on a building(like firestation #4 or channel 4,etc.), maybe at the entrance to a park, etc.

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Vicki Kasal - 06:00pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3064 of 22131)

why did they say get them "right""shout"....that don't rhyme with anything

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ani - 06:00pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3065 of 22131)

ADORN ... definition.... to be an ornament; to add beauty, to put decoration on

think decoration of #4

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Dave - 06:01pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3066 of 22131)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

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ani - 06:01pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3067 of 22131)

ADORN...definition.... to be an ornament; add beauty; to put decorations on

adorn and #4 i think go together

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Bryan D Whaley - 06:02pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3068 of 22131)

The word ADORN really catches my eye as well. Not a word used in everyday conversation.

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Step - 06:03pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3069 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Are you people really thinking its at newell park?

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Dave - 06:04pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3070 of 22131)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

OHHH, and No One lose this address given out earlier by BARTON FINK, Very, Very, Very handy resource!!! http://www.friendsoftheparks.org/parksearch.htm

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Bryan D Whaley - 06:04pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3071 of 22131)

I don't think it is at Newell. Not a possibility.

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Cammando WAyne - 06:04pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3072 of 22131)

So kicking the fire out.

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Vicki Kasal - 06:05pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3073 of 22131)

I was for a shake Ian.....why?

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Step - 06:06pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3074 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Thank you Brian....me neither.

Where are you thinking early on?

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Cammando WAyne - 06:06pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3075 of 22131)

You want to know what i think? any one?

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Bryan D Whaley - 06:07pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3076 of 22131)

It is really hard to say right now. Best outlook right now is probably Highland. But I haven't ruled out Mounds or Battle Creek. How about yourself?

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Vicki Kasal - 06:07pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3077 of 22131)

hay dave, do you know suzi by chance? (could be the wrong Dave)

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Bryan D Whaley - 06:07pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3078 of 22131)

What are you thinking Wayne?

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ani - 06:08pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3079 of 22131)

what do you think commando?

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Step - 06:08pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3080 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Brian--For some strange reason I am going with Phalen early on....

Why do you think Highland?

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Bryan D Whaley - 06:09pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3081 of 22131)

Question for everyone?? Is there a golf course in the park or not?? The clue really does not say.

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Step - 06:10pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3082 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

I think so...otherwise why would they be so direct in telling everyone to stay off?

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Cammando WAyne - 06:10pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3083 of 22131)

Numbers is books in the bible and they all pertain to laws far fetch maybe but the base ball thing is old hack

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ani - 06:11pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3084 of 22131)

yes, a golf course in the area, just stay away from it.

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Step - 06:11pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3085 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

what does the bible have to do with parks?

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Matt Dwyer - 06:11pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3086 of 22131)

have no clue what park it's at

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Bryan D Whaley - 06:12pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3087 of 22131)

Wayne what do you think the numbers mean?? My thought is the nine is representative of the 9-hole course at Highland and the five represents Highway 5. As for the four???????????????/

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Bryan D Whaley - 06:13pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3088 of 22131)

Step, why are you leaning towards Phalen?

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ani - 06:13pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3089 of 22131)

"figure it out" maybe the medalion is in an action figure?

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Cammando WAyne - 06:14pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3090 of 22131)

also in the masses of number you have law makers thats what make me belive its in the capital park again

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ani - 06:15pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3091 of 22131)

it also made reference to the word action right?

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Step - 06:15pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3092 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Bryan--I don't really know, I just think the clues fit it well...but they fit highland well too...I'm confused...need more clues.

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Bryan D Whaley - 06:15pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3093 of 22131)

Hasn't been at Capitol park in ten years.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 06:15pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3094 of 22131)

any thoughts about frisbee golf at HP rather than regular golf

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Step - 06:16pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3095 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

no--I think it means regular golf.

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Bryan D Whaley - 06:16pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3096 of 22131)

Tonight's clue should really limit the number of parks it could be in, unless it is in a small park. In that case they will not reveal the park until later in the clues.

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steve allen - 06:17pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3097 of 22131)

do you think they would tell you its in a park with a golf course right away remember its their game

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Dave - 06:19pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3098 of 22131)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Newell is such a strongv possibility still. It just makes sense so far. Someone tell me about this slide at Como is it for real? What is it? How big is it?.....details, details, details, I need em. Clue #2 warns not to get too close to the action of the flying downhill(sledding) if this is a big carnival thing they could be specifically referring to it. Newell is the closest park to Como also. I take Clue #1 as maybe saying you ARE at the wrong scene period if you are near a golf course. And newell has basketball court and softball field. Since it is Pioneer Press 150th Anniversary, it was at Newell 15 years ago and Taylor street runs right into Newell, and Taylor was our president 150 years ago, ya never know! :)

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Ian - 06:21pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3099 of 22131)

"gettin' ready"

just wondering if you are the Vicki I met...

Thanks for the link, Dave--all maps are good to have

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Ms. Milwaukee - 06:21pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3100 of 22131)

any thoughts about frisbee golf at HP rather than regular golf

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ani - 06:22pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3102 of 22131)

the medalian is hidden on the back of a jesse ventura action figure!!!!

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Matt Dwyer - 06:23pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3103 of 22131)

9 as in baseball/softball..5 as in basket ball...4 maybe a address or a building nummber

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Cammando WAyne - 06:32pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3104 of 22131)

WAy to go ani

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Bryan D Whaley - 06:33pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3105 of 22131)

Batlle Creek also has baseball fields, basketball court. Why not Battle Creek? How about the medallion being hidden inside a miniature safe, using the numbers to open the front door of the safe?

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calvinator - 06:34pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3106 of 22131)

I think that It might be at como, it's worth a lot of $ this year and como is a big park plus i think the downhill thing has to do with the skiing that's offered there

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Ian - 06:34pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3107 of 22131)

"gettin' ready"

Is anyone having trouble posting ??

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Bryan D Whaley - 06:34pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3108 of 22131)

I had trouble for a while.

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Cammando WAyne - 06:35pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3109 of 22131)

Heading for the capital just to see the veiw and see the Big Norgy

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#18 - 06:36pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3110 of 22131)

Whats up hunters

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Ian - 06:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3111 of 22131)

"gettin' ready"

Any of these words look like anagrams? The only one I can get is ADORN-DRANO~~~ugh !

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Cammando WAyne - 06:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3112 of 22131)

Ten four I'll be back!!!!!!!!!!

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Dave - 06:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3113 of 22131)

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Yeah I was having trouble posting. Brian you can rule out Battle Creek park already, whenever they put it there in the past they keep the hunt in Ramsey County in the first clue because half of the park isn't even in St. Paul. Since they said St. Paul this year that rules out battle creek. But how can you say its not it Newell yet, there's nothing to say it couldn't be there or in 35 other parks in St. Paul.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 06:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3114 of 22131)

things to remember is that the hunt is put o by PP not carnival, they base the clues on landmarks not special things or events, They most likely wouldn't relate it to the slide at como. They would relate it to a permanent object.

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Step - 06:39pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3115 of 22131)

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So confusing....

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Cammando WAyne - 06:39pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3116 of 22131)

Very Good Regalman

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calvinator - 06:40pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3117 of 22131)

why would it be at newell?

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Ian - 06:40pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3118 of 22131)

"gettin' ready"

good point, regal

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Step - 06:41pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3119 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

it's not at newell

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Cammando WAyne - 06:41pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3120 of 22131)

well off to look some

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calvinator - 06:42pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3121 of 22131)

So could it be como again?

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Step - 06:42pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3122 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Possibly but highly unlikely.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 06:42pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3123 of 22131)

At Newell 1 baseball field=9 baseball players, 1 basketball court= 5 basketball players, and 2 tennis courts=4 tennis players ??????????

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Dave - 06:43pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3124 of 22131)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Why not? as good a chance as anywhere else.

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calvinator - 06:44pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3125 of 22131)

I still think that it has to do with a golf course, not on it, but if you add up 9 plus 5 and 4 = 18, 18 holes???

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Ms. Milwaukee - 06:45pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3126 of 22131)

Someone go to the barn and ask Bobby Knight since we're all so confused

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Step - 06:45pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3127 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

I see what you are saying about the numbers, but the chances are SO small to have it at a little park...that's all.

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joanne sumrall - 06:46pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3128 of 22131)

clue 3 says a nine and a five if its talking baseball and basketball its a park with one of each, the four(fore) is a golf course what yall think

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Vicki Kasal - 06:46pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3129 of 22131)

I'll be on in a sec....getting my picture too post. Probably wasn't me Ian...

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Dave - 06:47pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3130 of 22131)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

I so sick of the big park thing I want to believe so badly that it may be in a small one, its been so long, and everyone is predicting a big park this year.

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calvinator - 06:47pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3131 of 22131)

Well look at it this way Highland has a 18 & 9 , Phalen has 18, so does como!!

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Step - 06:47pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3132 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

that clue with the numbers refers to what the medallion is IN, in my opinion. someone posted an awesome point this afternoon and it sold me!

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calvinator - 06:48pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3133 of 22131)

Phalen has baseball, basketball, tennis, and golf !

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Ms. Milwaukee - 06:48pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3134 of 22131)

One thing for all to know about HP, the facilities used by HPSHS are not their property like most think for some reason.

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MedallionGuy - 06:48pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3135 of 22131)

that point sold me to on what it is most likely in

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#18 - 06:49pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3136 of 22131)

Hey Step what was the point

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calvinator - 06:49pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3137 of 22131)

What about the front door? And the Flying downhill, could it refer to skiing?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 06:49pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3138 of 22131)

Hey step, what was said this afternoon???

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Ms. Milwaukee - 06:50pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3139 of 22131)

Ball fields at como have numbers on the backstops, anyone know which field is #4???

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Mhunter Schbabs - 06:53pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3140 of 22131)

(Just Call Me Schbabs)

I know this is kind of dumb reasoning, but I think it's in a big park this year because it's worth so much more money. Next year it'll be in a small park. There'll be too many people looking for it this year for it to be in a small park.

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calvinator - 06:54pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3141 of 22131)

my thoughts exactly

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MedallionGuy - 06:54pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3142 of 22131)

yeah it is not the one's by the slides there is field 4 back by the pony rides and field 3 is there too. 5 and 6 are by the rec center. 1 and 2 are by the slide

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Paula Gunderson - 06:54pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3143 of 22131)

I think it might be at como because the clubhouse address is 1431, 1 and 4 equals 5. 3 + 1 = 4, and all the numbers equal 9. Look on the hill overlooking the golf course, sliding hill, and lake. Also the numbers could correspond to the golf clubs themselves. Like a nine iron ,a five iron, and four iron. What do you think?

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jim buzz - 06:55pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3144 of 22131)

Step- Did you find the medallion at Phalen yet?

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Ian - 06:56pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3145 of 22131)

"gettin' ready"

Is it 11:30 yet?

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Life-Long Bronco Fan - 06:57pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3146 of 22131)

Must find the Med to finance my SUPER BOWL CELEBRATION!!

The comment this afternoon was based on the assumption that 9 and 5 go together, not neccessarily the 4 with it. Since the third clue historically hints at the containter it could be in a KS95 bag (9 and 5, or if you prefer, 94.5 has all 3)

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Alan & Jill - 06:58pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3147 of 22131)

alias "The Woman and I" '98

Hi Step or Mg - What was said about the numbers this afternoon which sold you? Thanks - Jill

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calvinator - 06:58pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3148 of 22131)

ok what's with the front door and downhill thing...? I am so stumped

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Alan & Jill - 06:59pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3149 of 22131)

alias "The Woman and I" '98

Thanks - Life-Long Bronco Fan

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Step - 07:01pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3150 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

jim--no. Are you looking there?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:01pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3151 of 22131)

One of the things throwing me off is usually in clues 2 or 3 water is mentioned. No mention of water yet. Highland and newell have the least water of all parks.

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#18 - 07:02pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3152 of 22131)

good point regalman

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Step - 07:04pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3153 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

I can't believe you are considering Newell...the guy who brought it up was joking and even he said there is no chance it's there.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:05pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3154 of 22131)

look at the pic of that guy, do you think he's normal???? He doesn't know what the hell he's talkin about period

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Nelldog - 07:05pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3155 of 22131)

It's mine and Steps this year!

Step, no doubt, this Newell thing is way off!

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Step - 07:06pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3156 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

what up Nelldog!!

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Nelldog - 07:06pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3157 of 22131)

It's mine and Steps this year!

What up fool!

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Step - 07:07pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3158 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Want to go look at Newell tomorrow?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:07pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3159 of 22131)

step, have you ever considered newell

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Life-Long Bronco Fan - 07:07pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3160 of 22131)

Must find the Med to finance my SUPER BOWL CELEBRATION!!

good call on the H20!!!

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Nelldog - 07:08pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3161 of 22131)

It's mine and Steps this year!

I guess since everyone seems to be conviced about Newell...

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Step - 07:08pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3162 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

regalman--I understand your points and they do make sense, but with the # of people this year, it has to be at a major park....that's all.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:09pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3163 of 22131)

I understand

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Vicki Kasal - 07:09pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3164 of 22131)

lurking*

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Step - 07:10pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3165 of 22131)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

that was a good point about the water.

Nelly--he said that they usually have a clue about water, but they haven't this year. Highland has the least water....

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:10pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3166 of 22131)

Do police stations have #'s?

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calvinator - 07:12pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3167 of 22131)

Highland has 4 tennis courts and and 9 holes of golf plus a sliding hill!

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The Shadow - 07:13pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3168 of 22131)

If anyone wants my advice...

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Vicki Kasal - 07:14pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3169 of 22131)

Beware people! A lot of people come in here to throw people off course.....remember everyone digging up mounds when it was at Cherokee? They were all at mounds cause people kept posting mounds everywhere. I'd go with your own instinct.

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theMAPMAKR - 07:21pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3170 of 22131)

There's basball fields and sliding in most of the parks. A $10,000 treasure will need a lot of parking. There are countless ways of using those numbers and making them fit. Why Como? Why Phalen? Why Battle Creek? Why Mounds? Why Highland?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:28pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3171 of 22131)

this next clue better reveal a lot

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Vicki Kasal - 07:31pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3172 of 22131)

anyone else having trouble posting?

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calvinator - 07:34pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3173 of 22131)

Does anyone know of a website that posts maps of st paul parks?

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Those Medalling Kids - 07:35pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3174 of 22131)

Heck, I'm having trouble even connecting to the cooler to read the posts, let alone post...

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Vicki Kasal - 07:36pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3175 of 22131)

good, I'm glad I'm not the only one!

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calvinator - 07:36pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3176 of 22131)

Me too :)

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Those Medalling Kids - 07:38pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3177 of 22131)

This past clue says "adorn the front door." The front door to what, or just front doors in general?

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Vicki Kasal - 07:38pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3178 of 22131)

Thanks for the help Ian! It is very much appreciated!!!

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Vicki Kasal - 07:39pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3179 of 22131)

us 3 must have good computers, cause I think we're the only ones in here

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Alan & Jill - 07:40pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3180 of 22131)

alias "The Woman and I" '98

Good Advice Viki

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calvinator - 07:40pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3181 of 22131)

I think that everyone is just generally stupified by the clues and doesn't know what to say!!!I am just trying to figure out the whole front door thing?

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Those Medalling Kids - 07:41pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3182 of 22131)

Well I guess it helps to be on a network, at least for me. I wanna address that "big park" issue. I think it could be in a big park. With the extra people looking, they may just think of only the truly big parks. The smaller parks would only be considered by vets and those who live near small parks...

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Vicki Kasal - 07:42pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3183 of 22131)

I'm leaving in five minutes to figure out the numbers. I want to try and rule out the numbers on buildings.....so you'll see me running towards doors out there

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Those Medalling Kids - 07:42pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3184 of 22131)

Oops, I meant to say I think it could be in a small park...

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Vicki Kasal - 07:43pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3185 of 22131)

see you all at 11:30

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calvinator - 07:43pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3186 of 22131)

I think the big park issue is right on, this puppy's worth some mucho denero so why try to hide it in a small park, they'll be so many people digging that there won't be a little park left!

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Those Medalling Kids - 07:44pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3187 of 22131)

I have a feeling that with tonight's clue we'll be able to tell if it is a big park or not...

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calvinator - 07:45pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3188 of 22131)

I hope that it points out something signifigant rather than what's been said already. I am so confused

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william schaaf - 07:46pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3189 of 22131)

anyone think 954 has soemthing to do with what it is in

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Those Medalling Kids - 07:47pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3190 of 22131)

Like I said before, the first two seem to tell where not to look, but that I think is for the sake of the land not being destroyed. The third clue seems to tell where in the park its close to, or in what it is hidden...

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william schaaf - 07:47pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3191 of 22131)

clue 3 usually gives u what contains the medallion

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calvinator - 07:48pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3192 of 22131)

My thoughts are that it either has to do with golf 9+5+4=18, or that it has to do with the surroundings(highland has 4 tennis courts, and two courses 18, and 9 )

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Cat Lady - 07:49pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3193 of 22131)

old fat lady??? are you in here?

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calvinator - 07:49pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3194 of 22131)

There is 450 acres at Como ????? 4 5 0 ?

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Those Medalling Kids - 07:50pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3195 of 22131)

I don't buy the 9+5+4 =18 hole golf course. Its that "somewhere a four" that leads me to believe that...

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calvinator - 07:51pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3196 of 22131)

get this. There are also 4 tennis courts at como, "downhill" skiing, golf and sliding, plus a warming house hence "front door" ?

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Those Medalling Kids - 07:54pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3197 of 22131)

There are a lot of places that can have a front door. Warming houses, community center, golf clubhouses, restrooms...

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Those Medalling Kids - 07:55pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3198 of 22131)

Anyone know the score of the Gopher game?

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calvinator - 07:56pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3199 of 22131)

Ok what about a scoreboard?????

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MedallionGuy - 07:56pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3200 of 22131)

where is the warming house in Como?????

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calvinator - 07:57pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3201 of 22131)

I think it's just us

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calvinator - 07:57pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3202 of 22131)

I don't know, I have this thing paper that lists everything that's at como park and it's on there!

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MedallionGuy - 07:58pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3203 of 22131)

oh where did you get this list??

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Those Medalling Kids - 07:59pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3204 of 22131)

Yeah, the numbers could be on a scoreboard. They can represent actual numbers that can be seen on signs, buildings, scoreboards, etc. Or it can represent other things, like a 9-hole golf course, 5-on-5 basketball, 4 tennis courts, etc. Its hard to say at this point...

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calvinator - 07:59pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3205 of 22131)

www.friendsoftheparks.org Did you think that I made it up ;)

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Fever has begun - 07:59pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3206 of 22131)

So, what you all are saying is that you don't have a "clue", like me. There never seems to be any reason to go digging until clue #8.

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MedallionGuy - 08:00pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3207 of 22131)

I think that the GC and bball court and tennis courts is a stretch but who knows I agree with the KS95 theory

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steve allen - 08:00pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3208 of 22131)

last sentance clue 3 shout doesnt ryme any thoughts

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calvinator - 08:00pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3209 of 22131)

See that's what I was thinking, cause scoreboards keep score?!

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wil m chamberlain - 08:00pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3210 of 22131)

www.friendsofthepark.org thatll tell ya all you need to know about most of the parks in st paul:)

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MedallionGuy - 08:01pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3211 of 22131)

No I was just wondering where you got the list of things like that in St. Paul, I believed you, I was just wondering where it was

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calvinator - 08:01pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3212 of 22131)

I think that the KS95 thing might be a little out there, but who knows!

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Those Medalling Kids - 08:02pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3213 of 22131)

Steve, shout rhymes with out. And its still worthwhile to go out looking at places, even with the clues. You might find a spot that can satisfy the clues, and the sooner you dig, the more area you can cover...

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calvinator - 08:03pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3214 of 22131)

I went to the website looking for a map, but it just tells you what things are at the park and how to get there, but if anyone knows where there is a site to jump on to get a map I would GREATLY appreciate it!

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MedallionGuy - 08:03pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3215 of 22131)

because of the 4 thing I think it is KS95, I think that all of the numbers relate to each other and not a GC, bball court, and tennis court

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Those Medalling Kids - 08:04pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3216 of 22131)

Melissa, you can find maps of the parks, but it will just tell you where the parks are. I haven't found anything that tells you where things are within the park...

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calvinator - 08:05pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3217 of 22131)

one guy said something earlier about those being like coordinates on a baseball field?????

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Those Medalling Kids - 08:07pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3218 of 22131)

They're not coordinates. In keeping score for baseball, 9=right fielder, 4=2nd baseman, and 5=third baseman. I highly doubt that is what the clue is relating to...

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Fever has begun - 08:07pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3219 of 22131)

9 players on a baseball team, 5 players on a basketball team, 4 golfers in a foursome.... what'ya think??? anyone??

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calvinator - 08:07pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3220 of 22131)

This partner of mine had one of Cherokee park last year, but for the life of me I can't remeber where he got it. It told you where the sliding hill was and everything around it!

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Those Medalling Kids - 08:08pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3221 of 22131)

Fever, yeah to everything but the golfing part. There is no real set team or number for golf. It can vary, so thats a stretch...

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MedallionGuy - 08:09pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3222 of 22131)

Dont try and read to much into the clue for it to make sense for yourself, because they are related a lot closer than we can come up with right now. It isnt saying 9 players,......................... It is more closely related

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LveOfYrLfe - 08:09pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3223 of 22131)

My personal thoughts are, it talks about keeping score, what about a hockey area?

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Mhunter Schbabs - 08:09pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3224 of 22131)

(Just Call Me Schbabs)

What are the dimensions of the medalion? How large/small is it? If someone could compare it to something I would appreciate it.

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calvinator - 08:09pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3225 of 22131)

What ever the case I wouldn't be suprised if it was hidden in a math book! LOL

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MedallionGuy - 08:10pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3226 of 22131)

Maybe it is in a math book LOL

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calvinator - 08:11pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3227 of 22131)

So what parks is everyone kinda leaning to. I can't get out until Thursday so I am praying that no one finds it before than.

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Those Medalling Kids - 08:11pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3228 of 22131)

Yeah, it could be a hockey arena. The problem is that numbers are used in scoring for practically everything: hockey, golf, football, basketball, baseball, etc.

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shayle hanson - 08:11pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3229 of 22131)

SOMEONE EARLIER MENTIONED THAT CLUE THREE IS (TRADITIONALLY) THE CLUE THAT TELLS WHAT MED IS IN.....

NOT TRUE

1998 CLUE NO 7 1997 CLUE NO 2 1996 CLUE NO 2 1995 CLUE NO 1 1994 CLUE NO 3 1993 CLUE NO 3 1992 CLUE NO 2 1991 CLUE NO 2 ETC ETC

BUT IT DOES SHOW MOST ARE IN THE FIRST THREE BUT YOU NEVER KNOW

TONITE WE WENT TO COMO PARK AND PHALEN WE SAW 4 PEOPLE DIGGIN!!!

WHERE IS EVERYONE

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calvinator - 08:12pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3230 of 22131)

Wouldn't that be a treat. So far they have used numbers in 2 clues. Nil = 0 and 9,5,4...They are a clever bunch!

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Horndog99 - 08:14pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3232 of 22131)

yeah that ks95 is looking good to me.....

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calvinator - 08:14pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3233 of 22131)

I thought about braving it but I don't know where to go.

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#18 - 08:14pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3234 of 22131)

I hear ya horndog

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MedallionGuy - 08:15pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3235 of 22131)

I agree with you about the KS95 thing to

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Those Medalling Kids - 08:15pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3236 of 22131)

Heck Melissa, its best to at least wait until 11:30 tonight before you go out, at least for now. The next clue should give more info on where it is....

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calvinator - 08:16pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3237 of 22131)

Don't you think that if it had anything to do with KS95 they would have some sort of promo or at least mention the medallion hunt, could they use something like that...It is a local business

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steve allen - 08:17pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3238 of 22131)

does clue 3 usually tell what the coin is hidden in if so I like the math book. I cant believe they would give you a door # this early in the game.

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calvinator - 08:17pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3239 of 22131)

If I didn't have work tomorrow or this week for that matter I would buy a laptop and live outside searchin for the dang thing.

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Those Medalling Kids - 08:18pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3240 of 22131)

I was wondering the same thing, but I think they have had it in a Skoal tin and a White Castle box before. They wouldn't advertise with KS95 though. People would make the connection and look for only KS95 stuff.

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calvinator - 08:18pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3241 of 22131)

Maybe it has something to do with like working from 9 to 5, a dolly parton cassette case : ) LOL

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calvinator - 08:19pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3242 of 22131)

good point, i didn't think about that I guess I am having brain fuzz

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LveOfYrLfe - 08:21pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3243 of 22131)

what time do the new clues come out?

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calvinator - 08:23pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3244 of 22131)

11:30 tonite

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shayle hanson - 08:27pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3245 of 22131)

I JUST WENT INTO KS95 INFO AND NO MENTION OF EVEN SUPPORTING THIS EVENT....I REALLY THINK WERE NOT THINKING ON THE RIGHT TRACK..

I DONT BELIEVE THEY WOULD HIDE SOMETHING IN KS95 ATTIRE BECAUSE THE WINTER CARNIVAL IS SPONSORING...NOT KS95

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steve allen - 08:40pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3246 of 22131)

the coin has been in everthing from a diaper to frozen milk I have the list

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Ms. Milwaukee - 08:42pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3247 of 22131)

Okay, back from HP, does anyone know what precinct number the HP police station is?

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Cammando WAyne - 08:43pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3248 of 22131)

Well I have poke arond and having some coffee now

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Those Medalling Kids - 08:43pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3249 of 22131)

Nope. You should have looked for that Regal

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wil m chamberlain - 08:44pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3250 of 22131)

highland park police dept. presinct #4

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Ms. Milwaukee - 08:44pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3251 of 22131)

I know but where do I look, I can't see it anywhere on the building, but if it is 5 HP is the park.

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wil m chamberlain - 08:45pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3252 of 22131)

or so ive heard check post #~2650 f/ANI

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Sister Sister - 08:45pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3253 of 22131)

What do you guys think "adorn the front door" means? I like the math book idea. On the same train of thought, maybe its in a score book of some sort - like for softball.

I agree with the KS95 thing being off. Why would they single out and give free publicity to one station - especially if they aren't giving any publicity for the Hunt.

Channel 9 news, however, has really been covering the hunt and hyping it up.

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Angela Belton - 08:46pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3254 of 22131)

Angela What's the door? On the front door adorn? 3rd clue. Could it be on a door knob? Are the numbers an address on a front gate? Or are they the numbers on a score board?

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Cammando WAyne - 08:48pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3255 of 22131)

Im not working tomorrow going to use my E tool all day long. Going agian to look by the Big Norgy in one hours time

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Cammando WAyne - 08:50pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3256 of 22131)

Angela you are on to something

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SNAKE 1 - 09:02pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3257 of 22131)

1988 FINDER

JUST CAME HOME NOT MANY OUT

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Ms. Milwaukee - 09:02pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3258 of 22131)

Any other thoughts about adorn

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Cammando WAyne - 09:03pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3259 of 22131)

tink tink tink

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Rosco - 09:10pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3260 of 22131)

For all those thinking KS95 has something to do with it, check out the winter carnival brochure that lists the sponsors. KS95 doesn't seem to have a damn thing to do with the winter carnival.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 09:11pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3261 of 22131)

can anyone think of what "5" might have to do w/it at HP

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Sister Sister - 09:12pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3262 of 22131)

Snake 1 - your picture is too big

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Cammando WAyne - 09:12pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3263 of 22131)

Figures stikes me as being not a problem but a figure no math either tink tink tink

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wil m chamberlain - 09:13pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3264 of 22131)

SNAKE where did you scrape?

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MedallionGuy - 09:13pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3265 of 22131)

ok KS95 doesnt have to have anything to do with the Winter Carnival because the PP puts on the Hunt.

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Those Medalling Kids - 09:14pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3266 of 22131)

It doesn't matter if KS95 is affiliated with the hunt or not. It was in a Skoal tin one year, and I don't think they were a sponsor...

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Dave Medallion - 09:15pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3267 of 22131)

w.7th is hwy 5....which runs by highland

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jim buzz - 09:15pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3268 of 22131)

Maybe within shouting distance of the fourth and fifth holes on Highlands 9 hole course. Pretty far fetched?

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SNAKE 1 - 09:15pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3269 of 22131)

1988 FINDER

HP AND DROVE BY NP

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Rosco - 09:15pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3270 of 22131)

Hunting hermy you out there

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MedallionGuy - 09:16pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3271 of 22131)

what is Np Newell

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gold coat - 09:16pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3272 of 22131)

good point kids...i think we all have to chase our tails a little while longer

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Marshmellow - 09:16pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3273 of 22131)

Does anyone have any thoughts that it is hidden between two cards from a deck ( a nine & a five ?)

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hunting hermafrodite - 09:19pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3274 of 22131)

hey rosco its me the happy hunting hemafrodite, way to stick it to them

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Ms. Milwaukee - 09:20pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3275 of 22131)

allright 7th is 5 on the east side of HP, the nine hole is the west side of HP, there are 4 tennis courts a ways away-"somwhere a four", and the big sliding hill on the resevoirs are a ways away. All of these are within the area and make boundaries for the middle, open part of the park.

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Crystal - 09:22pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3276 of 22131)

is there any way it could be at Phalen? I was just thinking, odds-wise, it hasn't been there for a few years, whereas it has been at Highland recently...and if you're talking a big park, and one with a golf course, wouldn't that be the logical choice?

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gold coat - 09:22pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3277 of 22131)

regalman, we like your boundry theroy....we've been thinking along the same lines

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Those Medalling Kids - 09:23pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3278 of 22131)

Heck, I hope its Highland, because I dont have to go as far :)

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jim buzz - 09:23pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3279 of 22131)

You may be on to something Regalman. Either that or you're on something!!

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Dave Medallion - 09:27pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3280 of 22131)

4 could also refer to fort road......another name for 7th

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wally mc - 09:27pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3281 of 22131)

como park minnie golf. big hill behind cat den by golf corse. Public land?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 09:27pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3282 of 22131)

dave, it could be "ford" pkwy too.

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Vicki Kasal - 09:52pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3283 of 22131)

I went out surveying tonight...its definitely not Como. We were harassed by security there

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Matt - 09:55pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3284 of 22131)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Heh. I don't understand why everyone is bantering, "I know it's at phalen. It has a golf course." I can't seem to dig up any other information about what's good about that park. I really wish people would speak up or shut up about Phalen. I'm kinda sticking with Highland. Went out there at 3:30 this morning, scoped everything out. And, apart from the front door aspect of the clue (which I'll work on more tonight), hwy 5's junction nearby and the "4th precinct" police department (don't get caught) seem to be gosh darn convincing.

Just from a precautionary measure, too, Highland seems logical. One: It's huge. HUGE, compared to the feasable digging area of Cherokee. (I was atop that hill for days before others were) Many people are going to look, and there's space for everyone to do so. It's almost discouraging, how immense that park is. I'm not letting it discourage me, though, as the clues will point out a decent little area for me to sniff out. :) And, point 2: That police station is a novel place, should people get a tad out of hand (which they did, to a point, last year), both before and when the medallion is found. The peace will be kept. I hope this clue locks down what the medallion is in or a better area for me to look at.

If anyone wishes to meet up tonight, I finally got me cell phone working, 651-503-4164, I'll be heading out to Perkins after I hunt around tonight with some maps and etc to think. Anyone's welcome.

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Vicki Kasal - 09:55pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3285 of 22131)

Phalen doesn't have Downhill anything that's popular. I think my prediction is Highland

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Vicki Kasal - 09:59pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3286 of 22131)

Como has undercover "security" there.....they are in civilian cars. They didn't straight up say "don't dig here"....they said "can I help you find anything"?

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chris colburn - 10:00pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3287 of 22131)

does any one think it could be hilcrest in highland park.it fits all of the clues.

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Eagle Eye - 10:00pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3288 of 22131)

Vicki: A policeman offered to help you find the medallion? Cool!

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william schaaf - 10:01pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3289 of 22131)

heyheyhey

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Birdie is in the house again. So it's Highland or Newell!

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william schaaf - 10:02pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3291 of 22131)

its too early for any park clue

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Vicki Kasal - 10:03pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3292 of 22131)

I said "We're just scoping out the area for the medallion hunt" they got on their radio's and said something like "10-4 on this suspect" type talk....then they said "well this isn't a parking lot" how funny?

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Vicki Kasal - 10:06pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3294 of 22131)

Keller's golf course is private...rule this one out people

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How far is the Policae station from HP??

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Vicki Kasal - 10:07pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3296 of 22131)

I agree Regalman....I'm scared to see what its like in here at around 11:30.... Probably shutting them down....

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Ms. Milwaukee - 10:07pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3297 of 22131)

in the park birdie

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All the clues fit NP and HP, will tonight's clue tell which one?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 10:09pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3299 of 22131)

I'm ruling out NP

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AllieGo - 10:09pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3300 of 22131)

The roads are terrible. It's raining/sleeting. This will add a new layer to the snow. But before it rained, it was easy to swoosh through the snow with a hoe. You can cover lots of ground. Highland is extremely large. It felt like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Discouraging. But, hey, you've got to start somewhere. I'll stay there until I have a good reason to leave and go to a new park. I had half of Mound dug up in six days last year before I moved to Cherokee.

There were people wandering around; not many, though. Can't wait to see a few more people out there; unless, of course, I leave for a new park.

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ShovelMaster - 10:09pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3301 of 22131)

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I think it might still be Como. You were harrassed there by actual cops? How do you know it wasn't med. hunters getting rid of the competition? I haven't been on yet today...anyone give me the thus far Highland clues?

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KORBEL+BEER+BIG BLUNT THEN GUY THROWS IT OUT ON CLUE # 12????????????????????????????????

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Brian S - 10:09pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3303 of 22131)

I think the clues are more Highland or Battle creek.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 10:11pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3304 of 22131)

I agree brian

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1998's "Shovel Boy"

Thanks.

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Eagle Eye - 10:11pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3306 of 22131)

Any chance those "cops" were the medallion hiders, out to place the dang little puck just *before* it snows six inches???

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chris colburn - 10:12pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3307 of 22131)

does any one think it could be hilcrest in highland park.it fits all of the clues. does any one think it could be hilcrest in highland park.it fits all of the clues. does any one think it could be hilcrest in highland park.it fits all of the clues. does any one think it could be hilcrest in highland park.it fits all of the clues.

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Brian S - 10:13pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3308 of 22131)

It was probably some sort of police or security at como. with activities like the snow slide they probably don't want people to get crazy and destroy things.

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Matt - 10:14pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3309 of 22131)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

I think that it's time to be a little more quiet about como. Perhaps that's just me. The same thing about Phalen, talk a little more about WHY, something BESIDES "Hey, I think it's como." -- "I still think it might be como." Either that, or stop sharing your intuition. Your gut feeling goes little distance with just about everyone.

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Vicki Kasal - 10:15pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3310 of 22131)

nope definitely cops....full uniform and badges

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AllieGo - 10:15pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3311 of 22131)

Highland has lots of action going on there. Frisbee is one of them. Cross Country Skiing. There are golf courses. I saw three sledding hills. And then, of course, Highway 94 intersects with Highway 5. On a map with both highways in view, you can see Highland wedged in there. So, if I'm in the right direction, I'll dig there until something tells me not to.

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AllieGo - 10:16pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3312 of 22131)

Chris, where is Hilcrest?

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Vicki Kasal - 10:16pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3313 of 22131)

I'm definitely NOT saying to rule it out completely...I just thought it was so odd (como)

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Matt - 10:17pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3314 of 22131)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Oh, and, people, when you're feeling stupid because you just hit reload and posted your message again.... Perhaps I'll make this large.

If you find yourself repeatedly posting a message over and over again, *DO NOT* hit 'reload' or 'refresh' on your browser window. Instead, click on the linked number of the last message you see listed. (IE #50000 of 649380). That will cause a message lookup to be performed, not a post.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 10:18pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3315 of 22131)

those cops just want the money and don't want to work, they figure if they get the info from general public they can sit back and eat more donuts before they get out of their car and walk 15 steps to pick up the med. while we rack our brains and freeze our asses off

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chris colburn - 10:18pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3316 of 22131)

hilcrest is on ford parkway.its a rec center.

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AllieGo - 10:20pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3317 of 22131)

Thanks. Does it have a place to slide? And is it a public park?

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Matt - 10:21pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3318 of 22131)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

I really strongly believe that the medallion will not be hidden in a place that can be overrun with people. That counts out small parks, or land like the capitol, any city streets, etc. I think that the Pioneer Press is a tad smarter than to dig themselves a hole full of trouble.

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Woodduck - 10:21pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3319 of 22131)

Quack! Quack!

Just got back from CP,HP,&BCP. It's good to get an idea of the layout of the parks.

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Vicki Kasal - 10:22pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3320 of 22131)

Hay Matt....what's your prediction or ideas?

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The medallion could be hidden in view of the Scoreboard and the 4th Hole in HP

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chris colburn - 10:22pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3322 of 22131)

it has a big hill to slide, it has a few base ball fields,tenis,and a ice rink.not sure if it is public i think it might.

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AllieGo - 10:22pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3323 of 22131)

I think you're right, Matt. It's prudent to have it in a larger park this year; like on a big football field or something.

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AllieGo - 10:24pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3324 of 22131)

But I won't rule anything out, even Como two years later.

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Eagle Eye - 10:25pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3325 of 22131)

Allie Go: We missed you at McGovern's. Hope to see you out hunting, and maybe this year you can make it to the rehash bash.

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Woodduck - 10:25pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3326 of 22131)

Quack! Quack!

I don't see anything in the clues that point at a specific park.

If there is a golf course, stay away. Some type of downhill activity is in the park, but stay away from that too. The KS95 bit is a winner at this point!

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Dave - 10:26pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3327 of 22131)

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I just got back from a 20 minute walk through at Newell Park and I do like it alot. Don't underestimate the size of this park. They are close to the action at Como, but still a shot away if they want to mislead u all. They have Softball/Baseball Field(9 players) and basketball court(5 players) and even a match to the 4. If you are out there Pat P. let me know what you think about the 4 at the front door of Newell park, it looks like a match!! And they adorn, without a doubt!

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Could it be on Highland's football field?

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AllieGo - 10:27pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3329 of 22131)

What is the KS95 thingy. I haven't heard that one yet.

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joe cedarblade - 10:27pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3330 of 22131)

nobody thinks it's in newll

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Wabbit - 10:28pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3331 of 22131)

I think that four is "fore" it goes with shout.

So, I spent some time across from the frisby golf course at highland. Across from the 9th hole.

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joe cedarblade - 10:28pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3332 of 22131)

highland football field is it public land

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Woodduck - 10:28pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3333 of 22131)

Quack! Quack!

Hey Dave!

Explain more about the 4 adorning NP!

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I am with you 100% Dave. I felt this at 12:00 last night

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Wabbit - 10:28pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3335 of 22131)

I think that four is "fore" it goes with shout.

So, I spent some time across from the frisby golf course at highland. Across from the 9th hole.

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Golden Boy - 10:28pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3336 of 22131)

Why Newell??

Clue #1 - "fairway" and "scene" = Fair VIEW Avenue bordering NP won't be "caught" = baseball reference (Midway Stadium) NP doesn't have a golf course

Clue #2 - I think this just says stay away from Como (or you'll get harassed by cops - daaaaaah)

Clue #3 - Numbers keep score - refer to a scoreboard or stadium 9 - 5 - 4: NP is in the 900 block of Fair VIEW you'll "shout" = fans cheering at nearby Midway Stadium

Also - Historical bonus: It's the 150th Anniversary of the PP (founded in 1849); Zach Taylor was President in 1849 - and guess what - Taylor Avenue runs right into NP. Not a clue yet but may show up later on.

If not NP (at this point in time) Please - someone explain why HP or Phalen for me?

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Vicki Kasal - 10:29pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3337 of 22131)

does anyone know why como has so many army trucks and stuff?

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AllieGo - 10:29pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3338 of 22131)

I don't think so, Birdie, because they were all fenced in.

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gold coat - 10:29pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3339 of 22131)

grandma from long beach ca. has emailed her ideas...her vote is for highland baker, or newel...shes the expert, and has been at this alot longer than we have!!! go grams!!!

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Dave - 10:30pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3340 of 22131)

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Just remember I think it Could very well be in Newell. More so than any other park right now. Newell. Newell. Newell. And maybe you could explain to me why it couldn't possibly be in Newell. And don't give me the so many people thingy!

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Woodduck - 10:30pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3341 of 22131)

Quack! Quack!

KS95 refers to "A nine and a five and somewhere a four." KS95 is actually 94.5 FM.

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chris colburn - 10:30pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3342 of 22131)

it could be highland parks foot ball field.i go there and remember 4 big traffic things on the field. does that help with any thing.

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Matt - 10:31pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3343 of 22131)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Allie: So far, my place is Highland. There's absolutely nothing convincing about Como, Phalen, or ESPECIALLY Battle Creek. Hence my whining about people to shut up or tell the world their master plan. Either way, I'm finding a lot of stuff shoving toward Highland... such as, the police station (precinct 4, also allusions to clue #1, ...don't get caught... ...wrong scene...), hwy 5 on HPs northern border, I'm also curious as to knowing the number of schools... but that's a long shot. There's a golf course that you can EASILY mistake for the park, if you're not a native visitor (listen, people, they don't say, "Hey, don't go looking in a nuclear silo," when they're hiding it in the middle of nowhere... They didn't say "Don't go running down the bluffs into the river," last year, either. The site has a golf course that people should know about. Phalen's course is too distinguishable for me.), and there're multiple sledding hills. I'm not sure about the front door, nor am I positive that there's a scoreboard, or anything that would work. (Do remember that the clue doesn't call for a scoreboard, it just says that "numbers keep score," which is really starting to get me thinking that it's pointing toward somthing else.)

All in all, I'm probably going to go scout tonight, but am not going to dig unless tonight's clue is exceptionally remarkable.

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Wabbit - 10:31pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3344 of 22131)

My first response was that the medallian is stuck to a calculator. (figure) and numbers

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Joe-------before you hate the game, learn to spell Newell. Dave, are you diggin at Newell tonight? I will right after clue#4 unless it points me somewhere else

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AllieGo - 10:32pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3346 of 22131)

That was fun reading, Golden Boy!

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Dave - 10:32pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3347 of 22131)

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I remember Birdie15, its your persistence and just hearing Pat joke so many times that sent me out there! I think clue 3 has a little more to do with actually seeing what is in a park and if you haven't been there then you don't know what it has now do u? :)

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Vicki Kasal - 10:32pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3348 of 22131)

where is the downhill action in NP then?

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ShovelMaster - 10:32pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3349 of 22131)

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Highland has a 9 hole golf course(frisbee) and an 18 hole golf course. Four tennis courts. Four+5=9+9=18....Just a thought. I like it how the clues lead to every park, dont you?

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jeloba - 10:32pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3350 of 22131)

it has only been hidden in newell once and that was back in 1984, if that helps at all

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Wabbit - 10:33pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3351 of 22131)

I went to Newell last night and was pleasantly surprised at the size. Its got a sledding hill in the trees as well.

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Dave - 10:34pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3352 of 22131)

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I already went through there and kicked up the snow, covered the ground and checked out the entrance to the building :) I wont go back until daylight. At this point each of the next couple clues will have to prove myself wrong.

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Birdie15 - 10:34pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3353 of 22131)

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Golden my man, how's it goin. I remember the conversation about Newell last night. They all lead there. Are you goin there tonight?

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Golden Boy - 10:35pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3354 of 22131)

Dave and Birdie - I was at Newell this afternoon - it has everything there - and it's a bigger park than I thought. I didn't have time to get out of the car though and check out the yellow numbers on the doors. If you're diggin tonight - it's gotta be NP. What did you see when you were out there Dave?

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B.J. Mack - 10:35pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3355 of 22131)

Is there a good sledding hill at Newell?

Are you attributing the "popular outdoor attraction" to Midway Stadium, as well?

It was last in Newell Park in 1984...

Why has Phalen been counted out by many of you?

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Wabbit - 10:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3356 of 22131)

Its not an officially sledding hill at Newell. But many sleds had been there. It was worn and icy. In the trees and slightly dangerous. Just like when I was a kid.

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Dave - 10:38pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3357 of 22131)

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There was absolutely no one there tonite, although the bases (always the first to get dug and the last place to be hidden) were all dug up on the softball field. If tonites doesn't turn me around I'll probably go dig it in the late morning tomorrow.

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9+5+4= 18 18 Wheeler. Guess what street runs into NP!!

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Vicki Kasal - 10:38pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3359 of 22131)

"Don't go running down the bluffs into the river," hahahhahaah so funny and true Matt!!!

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Wabbit - 10:38pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3360 of 22131)

Its not an official sledding hill at Newell. But many sleds had been there. It was worn and icy. In the trees and slightly dangerous. Just like when I was a kid.

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joe cedarblade - 10:40pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3361 of 22131)

it's not in the HP football field because that is NOT public land

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AllieGo - 10:40pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3362 of 22131)

Matt, I'm leaning towards Highland and I won't be switching yet, anyway. After last year...fast cars, crazy people...I think it's not such a bad idea to hide it next to a police station with the amount as it is. That's my thinking, but I don't have any clues to back it, except the "caught." Number 4 works for me.

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KOLFBOPBL;PZMNMVMBZCVBCBJ

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Ms. Milwaukee - 11:09pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3364 of 22131)

HP football feld is public land.

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Vicki Kasal - 11:13pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3365 of 22131)

there is only one bus that goes by there and that's the number 4? (hp)

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Dave - 11:14pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3366 of 22131)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

I actually attribute the sledding to the infamous hills over at Como on the fields and the popular outdoor attraction to the Saints and midway stadium, but telling us not to get too close to either, because we would be barking up the wrong tree. Thats what makes logical sense to me, without having to stretch anything too far.

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Vicki Kasal - 11:15pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3367 of 22131)

all the streets of Hp are as follows: Hamline, Bohland Place, Montreal, Edgecumbe Rd, Snelling, 7th st W., Antonio Drive, Homer St., Beechwood Place.....9

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Woodduck - 11:17pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3368 of 22131)

Quack! Quack!

I hate this server!

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Vicki Kasal - 11:17pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3369 of 22131)

A guy once told me "all the clues could apply to anyone's backyard" !!!! I died laughing....

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Darryl Zero - 11:18pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3370 of 22131)

anyone got the clue yet?

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Ripsaw - 11:18pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3371 of 22131)

HEHEH, YOU WILL NEVER FIND THE MEDAILAN THINGIE, I ALREADY HAVE!! HAHAHAHAHA SUCKAS!!!! Just Kidding, Hello? why wont this go through?

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gold coat - 11:18pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3372 of 22131)

im hoping its at highland, last year we were involved in a hit and run, some one hit our parked car, caused damage and left. police could be an added bonus!!!

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Vicki Kasal - 11:18pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3373 of 22131)

you know when there is a lot of people on....I can definitely feel it too...Clue time!

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jeloba - 11:18pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3374 of 22131)

Newell park is 10.5 acres, highland is 264 acres

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digby - 11:19pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3375 of 22132)

everyone in the day says highland but all of us at night lean to highland

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Step - 11:21pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3376 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

maybe its at highland!

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Woodduck - 11:22pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3377 of 22132)

Quack! Quack!

#4 will be here any minute!!!

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Dave - 11:27pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3378 of 22132)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Ya and the point is? Anyone knows Size Doesn't Matter! Anyways Heres #4

Studying the past can be quite a blast

But there's value as well in the new

If you're willing to be an iconoclast

The treasure might belong to you.

I TOLD YA NEWELL 150 YEARS AGO PRESIDENT WAS?????

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Axel - 11:28pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3379 of 22132)

Clue No. 4:

Studying the past can be quite a blast But there's value as well in the new If you're willing to be an iconoclast The treasure might belong to you.

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Alan & Jill - 11:28pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3380 of 22132)

alias "The Woman and I" '98

Studying the past can be quite a blast But there's value as well in the new If you're willing to be an iconoclast The treasure might belong to you.

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Phillip Diskerud - 11:29pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3381 of 22132)

First Time Hunter--But Thinking Phalen

Can anyone help me I don't have a dictonary and I don't know what the word Iconoclast means?

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Dave - 11:30pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3382 of 22132)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Iconoclast- one who attacks settled beliefs or institutions!

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Step - 11:30pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3383 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

dave--it says NOT to look into the past

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Brian S - 11:30pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3384 of 22132)

Destruction of a religious symbol to prevent its worshiping

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Matt - 11:30pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3385 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Wow. I guess it's easier to find the medallion when you read the clue seven thousand times.

iconoclast \I*con"o*clast\, n. [Gr. e'ikw`n image + ? to break: cf. F. iconoclaste.] 1. A breaker or destroyer of images or idols; a determined enemy of idol worship.

2. One who exposes or destroys impositions or shams; one who attacks cherished beliefs; a radical.

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medalionstalion - 11:30pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3386 of 22132)

"For if you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . ."

Iconoclast: One who attacks established beliefs, a destroyer of images

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Birdie15 - 11:30pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3387 of 22132)

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digby - 11:31pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3388 of 22132)

iconoclast a critic or rebel

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Vicki Kasal - 11:32pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3389 of 22132)

I see it, I see it!

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jeloba - 11:32pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3390 of 22132)

iconoclast: etymology: Medieval Latin Iconoclastes, from Middle Greek eikonoklastEs, literally , image destroyer, from greek eikono

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Step - 11:32pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3391 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

what, do you think they make the clues to what people say in the frickin chatroom?

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Step - 11:32pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3392 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

vicki--see what?

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medalionstalion - 11:33pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3393 of 22132)

"For if you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . ."

I'm leaning toward Pigs Eye Park, either that or Battle Creek. "Shout" from #3 reminds me of a Battle call or something

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CocaBombay - 11:33pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3394 of 22132)

i*con*o*clast, i*kon'o*klast, n, [Gr. eikon and klastes, a breaker, < klao, to break.] One who attacks cherished beliefs or institutions; one who destroys or opposes the veneration of religious images or icons.

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Allison Wonderland - 11:33pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3395 of 22132)

Dreams are the roadmap to life; without them we are lost

Hmmm... One would have to be a real iconoclast to think that they would hide it at Como again. After all, it was there two years ago (in the past) and they wouldn't put it there again (the new). That would be outrageous! (iconoclast)

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AllieGo - 11:33pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3396 of 22132)

Okay...if I weren't so tired, I'd make a run for the site, but I'll sleep tonight and start fresh in the a.m.

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Step - 11:34pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3397 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

stalion--sorry, Battle Creek is in maplewood

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reddog_1 - 11:34pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3399 of 22132)

This clue is telling us what we'll find it in

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Woodduck - 11:35pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3400 of 22132)

Quack! Quack!

Iconoclast = destroyer of images or idols

The medallion could be in an idol.

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Step - 11:35pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3401 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Allison--you may be right!!!

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Brian S - 11:35pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3402 of 22132)

Some of Battle Creek is in maplewood the rest is in St Paul

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Dave - 11:35pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3403 of 22132)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Allison that would be so very True!!!! Lookin at Como too!

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Golden Boy - 11:35pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3404 of 22132)

Birdie & Dave - "Our doubts make traitors of us all" - are people really still thinking HP or Como - #4 solidifies NP> Don't ya think???!!! Or am I nuts!!!!!

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reddog_1 - 11:35pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3405 of 22132)

This clue is telling us what we'll find it in

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CocaBombay - 11:35pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3406 of 22132)

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SNAKE - 11:35pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3407 of 22132)

1988 FINDER

NO HELP TO ME

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#18 - 11:35pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3408 of 22132)

Battle Creek is St. Paul

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ShovelMaster - 11:36pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3409 of 22132)

1998's "Shovel Boy"

I'm off to scout....see you in the parks!!

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Vicki Kasal - 11:36pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3410 of 22132)

I like how they are emphasizing "new"

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jim buzz - 11:36pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3411 of 22132)

There's value as WELL in the NEW!! get it- NEWELL PARK!!!!

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Step - 11:36pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3412 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

reddog--what are we gonna find it in then?

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Stone Cold - 11:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3413 of 22132)

yep its in como again! anyone else think so?

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Darryl Zero - 11:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3414 of 22132)

stop being a bunch of iconoclasts and tell me what ya think, Highland? Newell? maybe Phalen, I don't know.

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Step - 11:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3415 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

nelly==you in here???

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medalionstalion - 11:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3416 of 22132)

"For if you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . ."

How does #4 solidify Newall? ANd where the hell IS it?

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AllieGo - 11:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3417 of 22132)

Golden Boy, you're making some leaps. But, still, trust your own instincts, 'cause I don't trust mine.

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SNAKE - 11:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3418 of 22132)

1988 FINDER

NO HELP TO ME

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Columbus - 11:37pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3419 of 22132)

I'm thinkin Newell. Can anybody tell me how to get there from Minneapolis?

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Golden Boy - 11:38pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3420 of 22132)

HELLLOOOOO!!! But there's value as "WELL" in the "NEW" - YES "NEW- - WELL". HELLLLLLO McFLY ANybody in there??

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Birdie15 - 11:38pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3421 of 22132)

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Golden, is it saying that we should look in the NEW (NEWELL) or is it saying not to look in the NEW (NEWELL)?

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Poindexter Klingskale - 11:39pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3422 of 22132)

Iconoclast is a person who, in the 20th century, will break tradition and do what he (in this case the iconoclast is a he)wants

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Allison Wonderland - 11:39pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3423 of 22132)

Dreams are the roadmap to life; without them we are lost

Como has a golf course and plenty of downhill thrills (sledding, skiing, roller coasters), a popular outdoor attraction (the Zoo, conservatory, amusement park, all things they would rather not have destroyed). Plenty of softball fields. The 9,5,4 may refer to a container. I always discounted it until now because it was there so recently. So maybe what they're saying is don't pay so much attention to past hunts. Be a rebel!

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Stone Cold - 11:39pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3424 of 22132)

Battle Creek is in St. Paul they hid ther not to long ago.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 11:39pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3425 of 22132)

columbus go down East University to transfer rd.(cleveland) turn left. take it up 1/2 mile curve with rd np 2 blocks ahead right yhand side

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Amy T. - 11:40pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3426 of 22132)

Columbus- Take 94 East to Snelling, go north to Taylor, take a left and you will drive right into the park!

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Birdie15 - 11:40pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3427 of 22132)

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Golden, I am in NEWELL in 20 minutes!!!!!!! You gunna be there?

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Dave - 11:41pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3428 of 22132)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Our new governor was in a way an iconoclast, maybe it refers to something about him since he won. And someone mentioned the hunt being something about that earlier on!

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Step - 11:41pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3429 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Allison--I am totally with you!

They have never buried it at the same park within three years...this is the third for como!

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Jorge jimenez - 11:42pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3430 of 22132)

newell is behind municipal stadium, on pierce butler. being there are going to be more people since its worth 10000,chances are it will be in a good size park. Newell Park is TINY!

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medalionstalion - 11:42pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3431 of 22132)

"For if you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . ."

Gold N' Boy - What I'm trying to get at is how the previous clues indicate Newell Park. I don't know where it is, or anything about it . . .

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Matt - 11:42pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3432 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Hmm, well, if that wasn't a worthless clue, then I don't know what is. I'll still have to go out and look. Where is everyone going? Perhaps a Perkins gathering for some pop and fries might be in order afterward?

Also, understand that there really haven't been any calculus formulae involved in the correlation to the numbers in clues. So, I'd suggest forgetting the "Hey, 9+5-4+9-4+5*9/4+5 = the exact deviation of my aunt's former roommate's slouch when he was going to the bathroom (eh, Pee pee? PP? Pioneer Press?"

And again, I don't recall golfing around at Newell Park a whole lot. Perhaps someone could refresh me.

Also, can someone verify for me that Highland is a 9 hole course? That will DEFINATELY seal my ideas.

-Matt

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Golden Boy - 11:42pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3433 of 22132)

THEY SAY THERE'S "VALUE" AT NEWELL - YA KNOW LIKE 10K WORTH OF VALUE. THEN AGAIN #4 SCARES ME BECAUSE THIS WAS TOO EASY TO FIGURE OUT - EVEN BY THE THIRD CLUE. STUDYING THE PAST DEFININETLY REFERS TO TAYLOR (PREZ IN 1849). WHAT DO YOU THINK??

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jim buzz - 11:42pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3434 of 22132)

Hello golden boy I think I said that a few minutes ago, HELLLOOO!!!

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Dave - 11:42pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3435 of 22132)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Battle Creek is Ramsey County NOT St.Paul look back at previous hunt clues! They never said St. Paul for Battle Creek, cause half of it isn't in St. Paul!

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Allison Wonderland - 11:43pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3436 of 22132)

Dreams are the roadmap to life; without them we are lost

Ah, I see your argument for Newell, but can anyone reconcile it with the other clues? Was the golf course a total red herring? Is there "downhill flying" at Newell?

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montana801 - 11:43pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3437 of 22132)

hi hunting hermie are you reading me loud and clear

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Vicki Kasal - 11:43pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3438 of 22132)

interesting idea Dave!

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digby - 11:43pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3439 of 22132)

frezzing rain im there in the morning

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Step - 11:44pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3440 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Matt--Highland has a 9 hole course smartass.

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Amy T. - 11:44pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3441 of 22132)

MATT - Highland has a 9 AND an 18 hole course.

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Golden Boy - 11:44pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3442 of 22132)

STALLION LOOK AT MY EXPLANATION ON MSG 33XX - AROUND 11:00 TONIGHT. BIRDIE - I'M PUTTING ON MY SORELS - WHERE ARE YOU COMING FROM - I'VE GOTTA COME FROM WOODBURY.

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Matt - 11:45pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3443 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Allison: And other reople who think that information in the clues are a goose chase, look back a hundred posts or so and read the conversation there. I've done enough talking about that.

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Birdie15 - 11:45pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3444 of 22132)

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I agree Golden, this is way too Easy to figure out!!!!!!!!!!! Something ain't right

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Dave - 11:46pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3445 of 22132)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Lets Not Forget I Went to Newell Earlier This Evening and the Number 4 Fits In. Whos with me on this maybe we could head over there tonite or get a bite and mull it over?

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Matt - 11:46pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3446 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Amy: A 9 *and* 18? Are they adjacent to one another?

Where's the golf course at como? I'm not too familiar with the surrounding area.

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Allison Wonderland - 11:46pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3447 of 22132)

Dreams are the roadmap to life; without them we are lost

It also seems just a bit suspicious that they would reveal the name of a small park so soon. Then again, maybe that's the iconoclast part. But if they want a drawn out hunt (which I imagine increases advertising revenue), it just wouldn't make any sense to do so.

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medalionstalion - 11:46pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3448 of 22132)

"For if you hide the medallion, even in your hearts, there will he rake for it . . ."

What does PResident Taylor have to do with studying the past?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 11:47pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3449 of 22132)

Still no mention of H20, no h20 at NP, gotta be there??

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Birdie15 - 11:48pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3450 of 22132)

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I'm right by Highland park. I can be there in 15 minutes

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Step - 11:48pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3451 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

where does 4 fit in, dave.

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Jorge jimenez - 11:48pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3452 of 22132)

Step and Matt,Highland has BOTH a nine hole course and an eighteen hole course. your both wrong. and it's not at highland!

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Step - 11:55pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3454 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

where does 4 fit in, dave.

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digby - 11:55pm Jan 26, 1999 CST (#3455 of 22132)

where u coming from dave

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Columbus - 12:02am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3456 of 22132)

Can somebody tell me if there is a large park that they have never hidden the medallion in?

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Dave Medallion - 12:13am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3457 of 22132)

newell is the place

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Ripsaw - 12:13am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3458 of 22132)

Can any one PLEASE tell me how to get to...

NEWELL PARK

From the east side? POST GOD PI$)(#*$)(%* U..

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Dave - 12:19am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3459 of 22132)

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Outside the front door to the building of newell is adorned by 4 pillars.

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Kathy W - 12:20am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3460 of 22132)

Iconolast - A LOST COIN!!! Cute!

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human 24 - 12:21am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3461 of 22132)

Dave: Newell because...?

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AllieGo - 12:22am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3462 of 22132)

I think the 4th clue is telling us to break tradition.

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Matt - 12:23am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3463 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

..."it's not at highland"... Why? And why am I wrong? What the hell, Jorge, you had better <censored> READ what I'm saying, you ignorant retard.

I'm still mulling through clues before I go out. Anyone perhaps want to collaborate around Highland, then perhaps scope out other parks?

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Golden Boy - 12:23am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3464 of 22132)

Dave - you going out tonite or tomorrow ? Has birdie left already?

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AllieGo - 12:24am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3465 of 22132)

In other words, don't follow the tradition of the past sites, which means that it actually could be Como or it's in a completely different park where it's never been hidden.

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Brian S - 12:25am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3466 of 22132)

Swede Hollow Baby!!!! I knew it. Ha Ha Ha

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joe cedarblade - 12:26am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3467 of 22132)

birdie has been gone for a long time i on the phone with him right now he saids ways up

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cats meow - 12:26am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3468 of 22132)

A house just off pierce butler and Newell displays large black address X95. Newell still looking good even though very early. No sliding or golf enhances it's appeal. Iconoclastic reasoning would place it at a small park.

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Dave Medallion - 12:26am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3469 of 22132)

in 1984 it was at newell and it still went down to the last clue.....it is not that tiny of a park

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Ripsaw - 12:27am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3470 of 22132)

I'm going to NP to check it out, this shall be cool!!

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human 24 - 12:27am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3471 of 22132)

newell park is on pierce butler route and fairview.

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Amy Ho-ez - 12:28am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3472 of 22132)

Do yall think it could be at Como, or do you think its most probably at Newell??? Help me outttttttt!!!

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Golden Boy - 12:30am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3473 of 22132)

Hey Joe - tell birdie I got kicked out and couldn't view messages for about 1/2 hour. I've got a contingent going out tomorrow at about 10:00 pm - if the bird doesn't stumble on it tonight. Tell bird to e-mail me at Saintly B@aol.com. We had NP since #2.

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AllieGo - 12:30am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3474 of 22132)

I'm not betting on Newell

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AllieGo - 12:31am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3475 of 22132)

Sorry, y'all. What exactly is the attraction there, anyway?

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Marshmellow - 12:39am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3476 of 22132)

I know you people think you have it all right but I think I know the answer!! Here it goes, A blast from the past would be the battle of Lexington (lexington st !!!). the battle of lexington is also the first battle of the revolutionary war!! Which is a iconoclast. If anybody thinks like me respond please :-) HEy by the way newell is only ten acres that is not a lot? Lexington goes into hp and como

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Amy Ho-ez - 12:39am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3477 of 22132)

I'm thinkin its either Como or Newell, but don't ask me why I think that haha!

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Allison Wonderland - 12:39am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3478 of 22132)

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To say its at Newell you basically have to interpret the first two clues as telling you about things that the park doesn't have. This seems like a bit of a stretch, especially with #2. I think its easier to fit the clues to Como. Yet the WELL...NEW in Clue #4 is hard to totally discount too.

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Matt - 12:41am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3479 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Hmm... There's a lot pointing everywhere. Newell appears to have a lot of numeric influence. But, people, I reiterate, they DO NOT TELL YOU WHAT'S NOT NEAR UNLESS THE SITE HAS SOME SORT OF CORRELATION WITH WHAT'S MENTIONED. Most of the allusions to "iconoclast" that I've seen are wrong, too. an iconoclast is a destroyer, not a "don't listen to past hunts" direction.

On another note, perhaps the medallion is in a 'shout' detergent container? I can't seem to find anything else that alludes to this, and there's usually something by now.

Also, I'd like to take this time to voice my disapproval this year on the lack of maintainence of the equipment running this web bulletin board. It needs work. Perhaps someone up in the rafters can hear this and contact me for some better sounding solutions.

-Matt

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ani - 12:42am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3480 of 22132)

what about the second line with the word "new" as in NEWell park?

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Allison Wonderland - 12:45am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3481 of 22132)

Dreams are the roadmap to life; without them we are lost

The people I know who work at Como may kill me for saying this, but the conservatory was just remodeled. It is a thing of the past which is also now new. They also have new pavilions on the picnic grounds.

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Bill King - 12:45am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3482 of 22132)

Anyone recall who the William Wallace (type) band of people were that were iconoclasts--ravaging the countryside/// sided against the Catholic church of england? I recall them being called the "HIGHLANDERS!!" They destroyed churches and ICONS!!!

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G. Sax - 12:45am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3483 of 22132)

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The best night of noodling yet. Newell is strong with its "well in the new" reference, but it really is hard to rule out Como, as well as any of the little parks where it hasn't been found yet. Fat words like "iconoclast" are fun -- I love it that someone almost got "a lost coin" out of it (where's the second "c"?). This clue is basically saying to me that past ideas like finding patterns used in choosing the hiding place and having all clues point to the right park can go out the window (so I think you're on the right track, Allison Wonderland). The first couple of clues could actually be elimination clues, something we usually don't see.

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Pat Eggleston - 12:45am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3484 of 22132)

sharkcage - call me

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SNAKE - 12:46am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3485 of 22132)

1988 FINDER

what will the next clue be ?

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Matt - 12:48am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3486 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Marsh: Good stuff, gonna scope some maps and follow up.

I must say, though, that I wish I had looked at Newell a while back, at least to get an idea of what's going on. I'm definately going to run by there tonight... err... this morning (I do readjust my body clock for this event. :)

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Marshmellow - 12:49am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3487 of 22132)

Hey is anybody hearing me ??????????? ALLISON do you agree with the battle of lexington being the blast from the past and lex st goes into como and hp??? the battle of lex was the first battle of the rev war!!!!!!! that is for sure an iconoclast. ANYONE A revolutionist is also a iconoclast

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Dave Medallion - 12:50am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3488 of 22132)

think your reaching marshmello

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Bill King - 12:51am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3489 of 22132)

So--any ideas on my HIGHLANDERS theory--they were iconoclasts??

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Marshmellow - 12:52am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3490 of 22132)

think you need a history lesson dave

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cats meow - 12:54am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3491 of 22132)

Finally, Sax to the rescue.

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Matt - 12:55am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3492 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

I'm still curious as to why people will find one aspect in one clue and run off with their shovels. I'm still not finding continuity in como, phalen, or newell. I am finding a bit of stability around Highland. There's a lot of things that I can't overlook in Newell, Phalen, and Como, aye, but it's just too much of a string hanging for me to say, "Hey!! There's one piece of info that fits that place! It's there!! I'm sure of it!" So far, I've not fit in a "numbers keep score" allusion to any place BUT Highland.

Anyone know if that Perkins on Ford Pkwy is open late?

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G. Sax - 12:55am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3493 of 22132)

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I still think clue #3 will tie this up more tidy once someone figures out what address has a 9, 5, and 4. I doubt it's a house address. They used to do that back in the dayz, but I don't think that would fly these days. "I'll sue yer asses if'n you use my address" comes to mind. Have I missed a solid address discussion re: "adorn the front door" ???

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Marshmellow - 12:56am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3495 of 22132)

hey bill king like the highlanders i can check my cmp encyclopedia to get more info. If you know anymore please tell !!!!!!!!!

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Dave F - 12:56am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3496 of 22132)

Newell Park seems like the best bet.

Iconoclast probably just stomps the feeling that they would hide it in a big park this year.

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Bill King - 12:56am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3497 of 22132)

Studing the past can be quite a blast.... But theres value as well in the new... (simply put says stay away from newell) just another elimination clue!!

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Dave Medallion - 12:56am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3498 of 22132)

if you people dont think that zachary taylor......president 150 years ago...... same as papers anniversary .....isnt the thinking in the past and the new does not mean newell you are on the wrong track.......IT IS AT NEWELL

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Dave Medallion - 01:00am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3499 of 22132)

there is your history lesson marshmello

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SNAKE - 01:00am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3500 of 22132)

1988 FINDER

I WISH MAT WOULD PUT ON SOMETHING ON

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Bill King - 01:01am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3501 of 22132)

Hey Dave--there were 2 different presidents in 1849 Taylor was the 2nd of that year--polk retired from presidency that year

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Marshmellow - 01:02am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3502 of 22132)

Hey sax what about a plaque on the door of a building that would be keeping score of the building would it not?? ex as in built in 1954?????????

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horbal - 01:02am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3503 of 22132)

what is an iconoclast?

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Amy T. - 01:02am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3504 of 22132)

Bill- WHY do you say it is eliminating Newell? It doesnt say that at all does it?

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Matt - 01:02am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3505 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Here, all of you geniuses who

INSIST

that the medallion is at Newell, tell me how it ties in with clues 1, 2, and 3. Please. And do note my previous post regarding the idiocracy revolving around eliminating points of interest that aren't in the immediate vicinity. If you need, read back about a hundred posts and listen to already said conversation. (How I wish Mom revolved around an IRC server instead of this.)

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Dave - 01:03am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3507 of 22132)

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A history lesson for marshmellow!!!

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Amy T. - 01:03am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3508 of 22132)

or 1945?

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I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Birdie or Golden or Pat are u here i think i'm going to fly over to Newell!

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Stone Cold - 01:04am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3510 of 22132)

the medallion can very well be at newell. the medallion is always buried in the middle of nowhere, and there is alot of snow to dig through. look at cherokee park people shoveled every where there and still didn't find it till one of the last days.

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Matt - 01:04am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3511 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Snake: No can do, my friend, I lost a bet a long time ago, and I have to honor it. <grin> I've already gotten enough crap from it, so don't think that any further complaining will persuede me. :)

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Bill King - 01:05am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3513 of 22132)

If your willing to be an iconoclast? so who in the past was an iconoclast--only 1---the "HIGHLANDERS"--destroyed churches and icons feuding and revolting against the catholic church in England--theres a HISTORY lesson for you DAVE!!

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Bill King - 01:06am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3514 of 22132)

hey Kevin --whats up bud???

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Golden Boy - 01:07am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3516 of 22132)

Dave - I'm here - I'm going to wait for the AM and then make the push for tomorrow nite.

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Dave Medallion - 01:07am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3517 of 22132)

the only problem i have is if the damn thing isnt hidden until the later clues......it seems kind of weird every year when the parks are turned upside down that is still isnt found earlier

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horbal - 01:07am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3518 of 22132)

what is a iconclast?

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Matt - 01:07am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3519 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Dave: If I had a picture of my middle finger for you, I'd put that on instead. But I don't. Deal.

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Golden Boy - 01:08am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3520 of 22132)

Matt - Why Newell??

Clue #1 - "fairway" and "scene" = Fair VIEW Avenue bordering NP won't be "caught" = baseball reference (Midway Stadium) NP doesn't have a golf course

Clue #2 - I think this just says stay away from Como (or you'll get harassed by cops - daaaaaah)

Clue #3 - Numbers keep score - refer to a scoreboard or stadium 9 - 5 - 4: NP is in the 900 block of Fair VIEW you'll "shout" = fans cheering at nearby Midway Stadium

If not NP (at this point in time) Please - someone explain why HP or Phalen for me?

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kevin hauerwas - 01:08am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3521 of 22132)

bill ,im me

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Barton Fink - 01:09am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3522 of 22132)

Bill King you are the straight GENIUS of the cooler... you are sooo very right on with that!!!.... the dictionary and the thesaurus can back us up here...!!! unless someone by the name of como or phalen fits the descriotion of a person or persons who seek to destroy religious icons then highland is the place to be tomorrow!!!

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Dave - 01:09am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3523 of 22132)

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thanx anyways brotha

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Stone Cold - 01:10am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3524 of 22132)

clues 1,2,and 3 do too tie into newell park take a look at the #'s on the street signs in the area.

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Dave Medallion - 01:10am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3526 of 22132)

golden boy it was in tonights clue.......thinking in the past is taylor

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Bill King - 01:12am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3528 of 22132)

thank you very much Barton--finally someone with a brain!!!-lol--its only making it obvious to those of us who just read the clues for what they mean---ill be there looking tomm with you--lol!! Let them waste their time not listening

Kevin--need your name for im!!

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Dave - 01:13am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3529 of 22132)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

I'm not gonna rule out anything you can't when you do this, but until everything doesn't fit, I'll stick with my little park. Don't get me wrong everything fits at Como too except the numbers, could be, but we'll have to see!

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Dave Medallion - 01:13am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3530 of 22132)

go dig at highland then boys........but like they said in RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK......."their digging in the wrong place"

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Barton Fink - 01:13am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3531 of 22132)

by suggesting that we should be an iconoclast it suggest that we should be HIGHLANDER's also!!! so hence people that dig in highland park are highlanders!!! and the treasure might belong to you

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Golden Boy - 01:14am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3532 of 22132)

THERE YOU GO - Dave Med - Another one for NP. Although I've been a big advocate for NP. The only reason I'm not heading out there with my shovel is - a few of us figured NP out by clues 1,2,3 - I've doing this tooo long to know it's not that easy. But if you're out diggin tonight - NP is the place to be.

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Stone Cold - 01:14am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3533 of 22132)

the only way it could be highland is the sliding hill, golf course and i believe there are numbers on top of the watertower, also the arena there is new 1 year old to be exact.

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Bill King - 01:15am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3534 of 22132)

my precise analyzation Barton!!! HIGHLANDERS---WE BECOME!!!!!!!!

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kevin hauerwas - 01:15am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3535 of 22132)

bill , i think for than i am.been there.

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Bill King - 01:16am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3537 of 22132)

All of the clues so far have different ways of pointing too many parks but they all coincide with hIGHLAND--CLUE #4 WAS THE KEY TO GIVE hIGHLAND AWAY AS WHERE THE COIN IS!!

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G. Sax - 01:16am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3538 of 22132)

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I'm with Matt on the too-soon "Annie Get Your Shovel" tendencies. Unless someone happens across it by chance, we're all still pretty much in the head-scratchin' stage. Now if there's a reference to Pabst or "PBR" or something focusing toward Pierce Butler Route, then I'd run off to Newell. By Saturday, believe me, even Cherokee will have trenches around the trash cans.

.....Some thoughts.....

Elimination Theory: If the first couple of clues were, in fact, clues pointing you away from parks rather than to them, then the bigs are all out.

Come Hither (But Not Too Close) Option: The stuff about golf courses and slides means you pretty much can limit your choices to the bigs, but to stay a good 4 away from the par 5 on the front 9.

Iconoclastic Blasticology: I have to believe they would focus more on the definition that means "attacks settled beliefs or institutions" rather than any definition that might have religious overtones. You never know who's gonna freak out about this sort of thing. (So, yes, the Lexington theory is valid.)

Revolutionary Parks!: You got 'cher Swede Hollow, yer Boyd, yer Prosperity Heights, yer College. They'd be crazy to force the $10K search into a small park, but with a merry-go-round of clues, folks just might be more spread out 'til the last days.

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Stone Cold - 01:16am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3539 of 22132)

np is the place to be still plenty of area to dig

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Dave - 01:17am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3540 of 22132)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Okay tomorrow morning it is leave a message on board when u go. no work no sleep for at least a week! WOO HOO!

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Bill King - 01:17am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3541 of 22132)

LOL@ kevin--you been out there tonight bud--did you go hunting after work?

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Dave Medallion - 01:17am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3542 of 22132)

agree snake

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kevin hauerwas - 01:17am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3543 of 22132)

deb hauerwas@aol.com

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Marshmellow - 01:18am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3544 of 22132)

hey bill k rome is very catholic and rome rd goes into hp and what do you think about the lexington deal it is a blast from the past the rev war

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bluegirl - 01:19am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3545 of 22132)

does anyone know if the old midway stadium was ever demolished by a emplosion..?

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Stone Cold - 01:20am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3546 of 22132)

that matt is really gay that pic is not even of him. could be his gay buddy. anybody else think so?

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Matt - 01:20am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3547 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Golden: Thank you. :) At least now I've got an idea to work with. But I'm going to be stubborn to say that the allusion to golf course should hold very strong. We'll see, though. I like the Taylor bit, we'll have to see if it comes up; I'll stick with logic, for now.

Well, for Highland, though, here's what I've got. Clue by blue:

#1 - Highland has a golf course, easily mistaken for silly people wandering around in the dark. It also has a police station, (alluding to "caught" and "wrong scene")

#2 - Because of the damage done to Cherokee Park's sliding hill, I believe that there's a warning not to cut holes in the MANY sliding hills at Highland. I also believe that there can be some connection with "thrill," "nil," and the rest of the holes in that clue.

#3 - I have absolutely no clue about the first line of the stanza. However, the following: Nine - A nine-hole course of golf is adjacent; Five - Hwy 5 is also adjacent (creating somewhat a border); and Four - The police station across the street is known to be St. Paul precinct #4.

#4 - I haven't had time to look this one through, but the battle of Lexington (mentioned by Marhmallow) is definately a great way to reinforce it. More on that later.

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Golden Boy - 01:21am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3548 of 22132)

Dave - I'll be at NP at 8 AM tomorrow - so I get to work an hour late. If they fire me - hell most guys who end up finding this thing are usually out of work anyway - so that's a good thing. I'll be in a brown subaru, with a dark green jacket, 8 AM - hope to see you there.

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Bill King - 01:22am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3549 of 22132)

I believe the Lexington theory is just tooooooo much thinking...but then again--were all doing tooooooo much thinking--lol. Ibelieve clue #4 just simply gave us the park if you know your history??

Kevin--i need to know your screen-name--that 1 doesnt work

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kevin hauerwas - 01:22am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3550 of 22132)

bill 9106,0983,3066

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Dave - 01:22am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3551 of 22132)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

No, thats him, I hear he likes to pose nude for men! :)

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Stone Cold - 01:23am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3552 of 22132)

how badly is newell dug up

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kevin hauerwas - 01:23am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3553 of 22132)

wisebass

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Golden Boy - 01:23am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3554 of 22132)

Matt - thanks for your thoughts on HP.

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Barton Fink - 01:23am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3555 of 22132)

people !!! People!!! PEOPLE!!!! read bill and my reasons behind this clue (#4) and you will me magnetically drawn to Highland Park... plus the rome road suggestion helps out too!!!

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ani - 01:23am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3556 of 22132)

horbal!!!!!! its dave in st cloud

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Dave - 01:23am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3557 of 22132)

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Count me in Golden Boy. Grey car here!

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Marshmellow - 01:24am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3558 of 22132)

Where is Terry and Green tonight?

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bluegirl - 01:25am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3559 of 22132)

matt...the 4th clue that says sometimes 4 can't be right..how can the precinct be sometimes 4...? but i like the caught notion

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Bill King - 01:25am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3560 of 22132)

Kevin--goto "people" instant message me--name is werentany then please tell me what yur thinking bud--its driving me nuts!!!!!!!

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Barton Fink - 01:25am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3561 of 22132)

matt is right on with the #1-#3 clues leading to HIGHLAND also...

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Golden Boy - 01:25am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3562 of 22132)

Terry and Green are at NP!!!!!!!

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Dave - 01:25am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3563 of 22132)

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Newell is walked over well from kids and stuff, but noting besides the softball field bases were actually dug up. Did ya catch my post earlier about the 4, there are 4 pillars just outside the front door of the building at Newell, adorning it I'd say myself.

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Stone Cold - 01:26am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3564 of 22132)

better watch out dave he may send you a pic, or worse find you at the park and flash you

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Dave - 01:27am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3565 of 22132)

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Are they really???? Just listenening to us and taking our input eh???? Grrr...... Gotta give some back baby.

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Bill King - 01:27am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3566 of 22132)

Barton, you know that you and i are right...well let them figure it out as we start digging up the park--lol

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Dave - 01:27am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3567 of 22132)

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scary thought

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Amy Ho-ez - 01:27am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3568 of 22132)

If you guys are going out tonight, its crazyyyyy, its hecka slippery out there, be careful yo!

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Golden Boy - 01:27am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3569 of 22132)

Got it - Dave. I drove by Tues afternoon - didn't have time to get out and look around. Did you notice the tennis courts across Fairview - is that considered part of NP??

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Eric Pramll - 01:28am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3570 of 22132)

I agree. Newell is too small.

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ani - 01:28am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3571 of 22132)

matt the police station is not precinct #4

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Bill King - 01:29am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3574 of 22132)

If anyone wants the 4--there are only 4 tennis courts in highland park--also police precinct is #4 and it reads SOMEWHERE in the clue not SOMETIMES so it does fit!!

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christopher campbell - 01:29am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3575 of 22132)

Has anyone thought that mabey the medallion is hidden at Battle Creek Regional Park? It has a sledding hill, there are some backstops witht the numbers 4, 5 and 9 mon them, and they all have signs stating no golfing. I think it may be a prak worth looking into.

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Dave - 01:29am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3576 of 22132)

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Last time they hunted there I remember people saying it was part of the park, and if you look on the website under newell that Barton gave us earlier yeasterday it says they have tennis courts there.http://www.friendsoftheparks.org/parksearch.htm

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Stone Cold - 01:30am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3577 of 22132)

dave you are right on is there any spots away from the ballfield that are free from digging also 943 has something to do with baseball

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Marshmellow - 01:30am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3578 of 22132)

Before I go to bed.... Highland Park has buried (or had) millitary ammo in the hills by snelling.

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Bill King - 01:30am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3579 of 22132)

only 2 tennis courts at Newell

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Bill King - 01:31am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3580 of 22132)

night marsh--nice noodlin with you

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Golden Boy - 01:31am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3581 of 22132)

I'm hitting the sack - I can't listen to another round of questions on Battle Creek. See ya in AM Dave.

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kevin hauerwas - 01:32am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3582 of 22132)

bill im in werentany

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Stone Cold - 01:33am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3583 of 22132)

dave i think chris could be on something here

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Dave - 01:33am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3584 of 22132)

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Free from digging??? what do you mean, there isn't really anything out there that has actually been dug up except the field. And Newell is not that small of a park, it could hold all the people I saw at cherokee last year and when it was at hidden falls at least that big.

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Matt - 01:33am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3585 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

ani - really? I thought that you were the one who handed me the information? Oh, bother. :P I drove out there last night, and I couldn't find any information from the outside.

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Bryan D Whaley - 01:33am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3587 of 22132)

Anyone have an idea of what the iconoclast is all about?

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Barton Fink - 01:34am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3588 of 22132)

think the well in the new=newell reference only means that newell park is nearby to highland which is THE PLACE TO BE

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Gonna go see if anyone is really there since its just a hop skip and a jump away. See ya in a couple.

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christopher campbell - 01:35am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3590 of 22132)

believe if you go to www.pioneerplanet.com, at the bottom by the treasure hunt thing, it has a link to past clues.

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ani - 01:35am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3591 of 22132)

heard it from someone else matt...(precinct 4)

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Bryan D Whaley - 01:35am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3592 of 22132)

I still think Highland is the best bet right now. The clues have not helped out much.

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Rushmore - 01:36am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3593 of 22132)

Title Change - Last year was Chasing Amy

Here is my take on the whole deal: 1)It is at Highland 2) Clue #1 points to it. It says that a park is the spot but a golf course is not. You have your Highland Park and Highland Golf Course. It is pointing to avoid the digging up of the golf course. I agree with Matt about the deal with the police station 3) Clue #2 mentions flying downhill there aree sliding hills there. 4)The bit about the numbers on clue #3 the only thing I can connect that to is the roads nearby or the softball diamonds or golf course. 5)Latest clue tells you to avoid Newell. Also, Last year they had that thing where you had to break down the word for other words-that was done already with a lost coin. The history with Lexington points to Highland. 6)Last year we had it down to the park after the third clue- so it isn't to early to get out there. I will wait til this weekend though!

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ani - 01:36am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3594 of 22132)

bryan d. i saw horbal here but he is gone now......i also got the friends of the parks cite to work now

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christopher campbell - 01:36am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3595 of 22132)

I also think it could be at Battle Creek just because it is a fairly big park and if i'm not mistaken, it has 4 baseball fields as well as some tennis courts

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Bill King - 01:37am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3596 of 22132)

agreed Barton--the road there and the park given already--very easy to read the elimination!! Kevin--how can you be in werentany? Im gonna make a chatroom--itll be called Medallion--go to it--k?use your people again!!

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Bryan D Whaley - 01:37am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3597 of 22132)

Anything worth while on there?

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Barton Fink - 01:39am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3598 of 22132)

all of you people know they would not give such an obvious wordplay reference this early to the park it's in!!! theyre using NEWELL as a reference point and as a place to dump all the confused hunters to... what does newell have to do with ICONOCLASTS?? the HIGHLANDers were the iconoclasts who were a BLAST from the past!!! and by digging in highland we are HIGHLANDERS hence we are ICONOCLASTS!!!

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christopher campbell - 01:39am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3599 of 22132)

bill, you making a chat room, is it on aol?

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Bill King - 01:40am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3600 of 22132)

Do the figuring yourself--lost coin or a lost coin--doesnt work!! toooooo many c's

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Bryan D Whaley - 01:41am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3601 of 22132)

How do you know so much Barton Fink?

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BOATDOCTER - 01:42am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3602 of 22132)

Rushmore since youre such a genius about the clues, whats the past clues have to do with this years?(huh?)

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Barton Fink - 01:42am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3603 of 22132)

yeah BRYAN theres something worthwhile... THE MEDALLION IS SOMEWHERE IN THE VAST REACHES OF HIGHLAND PARK!!!

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Bill King - 01:43am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3604 of 22132)

Kevin--chat room is open--use your people thingy again

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Rushmore - 01:43am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3605 of 22132)

It is not at Battle Creek this year. The only thing that points to it is the "flying downhill" deal other than that- it really doesn't hold up as well as newell and Highland. In the Coolercrew website didn't htey have info. on all the past clues and once the mention of some numbers came out in clue 3 they all disappeared. Conspiracy?

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Amy Ho-ez - 01:43am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3606 of 22132)

oooooo Barton, pretty slick thinkin there bub =D

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christopher campbell - 01:44am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3607 of 22132)

Boatdoctor: The clues from past years tend to have a pattern, like the fourth clue usually tells you the park and i think it's the sixth clue usually tells you what the medallion is hidden in.

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Barton Fink - 01:44am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3608 of 22132)

past clues help determine the order in which THEY like to spoon feed (although it gets sloppy most of the time) us information... i actually didnt get the highlander reference until Bill clued me in.. so i went to Encarta and voila!!!

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Barton Fink - 01:45am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3609 of 22132)

the clues arent exactly put out in an order thats that easy to read Chris Campbell... but there are still trends

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kevin hauerwas - 01:46am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3610 of 22132)

bill went to pepl enter chat ..notying follows

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Bill King - 01:46am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3611 of 22132)

Kevin--where are you--AOL chat room--TownSquare/ Medallion is room name

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Rushmore - 01:46am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3612 of 22132)

Out of curiousity is anyone under a new alias this year than they were last year or is everyone her newbies?

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BOATDOCTER - 01:46am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3613 of 22132)

Campbell, Where can you find the old clues?

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christopher campbell - 01:46am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3614 of 22132)

know there very subtle trends, but you can usually find that the fourth or fifth clue tells you the park

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Matt - 01:47am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3615 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Oh well. I'll be around printing up some maps to look at.

And, if I may, I'll take this time to plug for ICQ. If you don't have it, GET IT! That way, some immediate chat could happen. Better than AOHell's Instant Messenger by a huge longshot. Check it out.

-Matt (ICQ UIN - 1734419)

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BOATDOCTER - 01:47am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3616 of 22132)

Campbell, Where can you find the old clues?

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Rushmore - 01:48am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3617 of 22132)

What year was the medallion hunt started and where was it found that Year?

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Bill King - 01:50am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3618 of 22132)

1st time ever was at Highland

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christopher campbell - 01:50am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3619 of 22132)

just went to www.pioneerplanet.com, then scroll down to where it talks about the hunt, and there is a link there to old clues

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Barton Fink - 01:50am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3620 of 22132)

1952 was the first year i think??? and it was found at HIGHLAND!!! IT ALL COMES BACK TO HIGHLAND DOESNT IT PEOPLE???

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christopher campbell - 01:51am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3621 of 22132)

you know, it is the papers 150th aniversary, so mabey they are hiding it at the park in which it was first hidden, or is that too obvious?

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Bryan D Whaley - 01:51am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3622 of 22132)

Matt your not available on ICQ right now, you will have to change that to get messages.

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Rushmore - 01:52am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3623 of 22132)

Thank you Bill and Barton I rest my case, good night folks!

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Barton Fink - 01:54am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3624 of 22132)

was in the cooler last year but i'll be damned if i remember what my name was???!!! i think it was my real name.. Nate Trivette but i'm not sure

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Bryan D Whaley - 01:54am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3625 of 22132)

Now that it has been determined to be in Highland, where do we go from there?

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kevin hauerwas - 01:55am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3626 of 22132)

sorry bill found room called medalion no answer

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christopher campbell - 01:55am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3627 of 22132)

we wait for more clues to pinpoint the location as well as the container the medallion is in

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ani - 01:56am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3628 of 22132)

what if it is in a shout container? maybe??

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Bryan D Whaley - 01:56am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3629 of 22132)

How big is highland in relation to Cherokee or Como?

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SNAKE - 01:57am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3630 of 22132)

1988 FINDER

THIS HUNT WILL GO THE DISTANCE

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Barton Fink - 01:58am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3631 of 22132)

it's nearly impossible to figure out what it's hidden in until it's in your hands... but if you do conclusively figure out the clue that tells what its hidden in you can rule that clue out for any signifgance to the park or it's features...

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angel wings - 01:58am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3632 of 22132)

angel ok all you gay guys you,re on the wrong channel. please go to homopages. there's no treasure in anything you have to say. you're breaking all the images of cherished beliefs and enthusiams, babe. iconoclast!!!!!!!!!! the medallion has been found!!!!!!!!!!! by an angel! bye now.

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ani - 01:58am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3633 of 22132)

maybe in an action figure from the word figure

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christopher campbell - 01:58am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3634 of 22132)

where do you get it's hidden in a shout container?

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Matt - 01:58am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3635 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

ani: I've been thinking that myself. But those little tidbits are the ones I don't usually share. :)

Highland is immense compared to Cherokee. Lots and lots of everything.

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Rushmore - 01:59am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3636 of 22132)

What kind of packaging does shout have? I know they have a spray bottle and a pour bottle-Anyone know of any other kind of packaging? Welcome back this year Barton!

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Bryan D Whaley - 01:59am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3637 of 22132)

Snake, how did it make you feel to find that?

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KX2L - 02:00am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3638 of 22132)

New to the game....Why do you think that it is in Highland Park?

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1988 FINDER

ANGEL YES YES

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SNAKE - 02:01am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3641 of 22132)

1988 FINDER

WAS SWEET

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Rushmore - 02:02am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3642 of 22132)

KX2L-Read back starting at my message at #3593, also read messages from Matt that were posted a bit before, that is how you will find that it is at Higland this year

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ani - 02:02am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3643 of 22132)

one of the clues says if you find it you will "shout" hence the shout container

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Matt - 02:03am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3644 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Yeah! I saw angel find it! Then I took my bazooka and got into my tank and ran her over! Then I grew wings and flew away and became the King of England, too! You missed all that?

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Barton Fink - 02:03am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3645 of 22132)

why is there always someone who has to say they found it and be a jackass in the way they say it??

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Bill King - 02:03am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3646 of 22132)

kevin--go back now--im waiting--are you CINNY?

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christopher campbell - 02:05am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3647 of 22132)

will, hold on

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Rushmore - 02:07am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3648 of 22132)

Angel-If you are trying to humor yourself look into a mirror. You are not humoring others; moreover-It has been established that it is at Highland so you were wrong on that one. If you wish to contribute any worth while comments please do so, otherwise keep your juvenile pranks to yourself. Thank you.

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cats meow - 02:11am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3649 of 22132)

Just came from newell. Only 6 diehards there now.

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Bill King - 02:11am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3650 of 22132)

Kevin--if your still here--just call me on the phone now--k?--lol

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kevin hauerwas - 02:18am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3651 of 22132)

bill lost directions to pay ph

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Amy T. - 02:19am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3652 of 22132)

Anybody been out to Highland tonite yet?

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angel wings - 02:21am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3653 of 22132)

angel wings we're addressing homo nude pics. grow up wanna be. humor yourself rushmore if you hope you find your treasure at homo highland. I'll be laughing all the way to the bank. see you at the torchlight parade.

no pranks involved here!!!!!!!!!!

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<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Hmm... What're the cross streets of Newell? (Printing out maps)

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Matt - 02:24am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3655 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Was thinking on going out to Highland in a bit, then off to eat or something. But I may not. Getting a little tired. Unless I find something out that wakes me up.

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angel wings - 02:26am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3656 of 22132)

angel wings back at Ya! if your so sure its at highland then why haven't you found it. or are you holding out til the last clue......

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KX2L - 02:29am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3657 of 22132)

So what does all of this narrow down to? We only know the street name and the park?!?

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Matt - 02:32am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3658 of 22132)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

I'm not so sure that it's Highland. For what information has been given to me, I've deduced that Highland is the best bet as of now. But there hasn't been squat to tell me a more exact location. Oh well. I'm off to scope things out. Be back in an hour or so. Anyone who wishes is free to join. Driving a maroon Pontiac Bonneville. Probably gonna be one of the few out there. :) Later.

-Matt

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angel wings - 02:32am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3659 of 22132)

angel wings bo hey matt get that f#%#ing nude crap out of here

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angel wings - 02:35am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3660 of 22132)

gary angel wings bo get the fagg nude crap out of here

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KX2L - 02:37am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3661 of 22132)

Anyone know the cross streets of Newell?

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sharkcage - 02:38am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3662 of 22132)

To overlook the obvious you've gotta ask yourself one question, did highlanders row boats and why don't submarines have oars ? should we build some upsidedown lighthouses for submarines ? man the torpedos and head for indian mound ! they drove canoes !ZZzzzzz.....

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KX2L - 02:41am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3663 of 22132)

Sharkcage_ what exactly are you trying to imply?

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KX2L - 02:46am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3664 of 22132)

Thanks for all your GENEROUS help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Just got back from Newell also. I told everyone it was Newell a few days ago.

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Birdie15 - 02:55am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3666 of 22132)

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anyone else here?

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Amy T. - 02:58am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3667 of 22132)

Yeah, Birdie. What's goin' on out at Newell?

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Birdie15 - 02:58am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3668 of 22132)

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alright

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Birdie15 - 02:59am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3669 of 22132)

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nothin much, about 5 people left. Not the turn out that I expected tonight. There was only about 15-20 at the most

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Birdie15 - 02:59am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3670 of 22132)

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Did you go lookin?

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Amy T. - 02:59am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3671 of 22132)

Me gonna hit Newell, Highland and Como with me thinkin cap on tomorrow

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Amy T. - 03:00am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3672 of 22132)

Too cozy inside right now. I don't think it will be found tonite so I think I'm OK.

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Everything leads to Newell but it does really say where in Newell, I had my own special places to dig tonight though

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Amy T. - 03:02am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3674 of 22132)

It's 3am- time to sleep!

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Amy T. - 03:03am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3675 of 22132)

Good luck tomorrow Birdie! I'll probably see ya out there somewhere. Look for a beat up grey Grand Am with a Vikings flag on the window.

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Dave - 03:14am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3677 of 22132)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Just got back from Newell Park. Still a strong possibility along with Comeo and Highlanders. Hate waiting but there is sooooo much snow out there and sooooo many places to dig. Saw about 7-8 people digging and walking about aimlessly. Couple guys said they got there at midnight, and just after that a flurry of about 20 people hit the park, and were all gone after about an hour, I dug an hour myself, but to no avail, unlike Angel. [slap] [slap] Wake up girl and quit dreaming about finding it, completely Impossible! Ya gotta dig baaaby, yeah baby dig, and then you're groooovy. I don't see anything but Newell, Como or Highland. The only thing I dont like about Newell is the "well in the new" that would either be too easy, which would make it not possible or it was a mistake and they didn't notice it was there. But till toworrow it is time to Quake! Good Luck All!

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Bill King - 03:20am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3678 of 22132)

kevin--im back--you still here staring at the bright screen or did you give up for now?

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Barton Fink - 05:24am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3679 of 22132)

Whelp... Good Morning to nobody it looks like... seems as though i've got time to kill so here goes my ideas why HIGHLAND is THE place...

Clue#1... In St. Paul... a road divides the golf course from the park itself so that tells us to stay in the park itself, dont cross the street...

Clue#2... Flying downhill=sledding... of which there are many at highland...but it says to stay away from them, they must only be in the park but not near the hiding spot...

Clue#3... i have yet to look for a door in highland with numbers or a number on it but if it's there that could seal the deal... the numbers keep score is loaded with sports implications, 9 may=baseball, 5 may be county rd. 5, and the 4 and shout tells us there IS a golf course nearby...

Clue#4... "well in the new" hints at Newell park but it's way too early to give away the park name like that... probably just means Newell park is nearby and they also feel that the newell hint may send people to the wrong park early on.... as for iconoclastic, the word means person or persons who rebel against icons (mostly religious) which the HIGHLANDERS did against christianity in the past... the BLAST could be ammo shells buried in highland... so if we search Highland park we in a sense become highlanders, and that definitely makes us willing to be an iconoclast...

so far i have found NOTHING against hignland... if anyone sees something against it POST it... whelp Tommy B and the rest of the crew is up now so im outta here... see you ALL at highland today...

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Bobby Clarke - 06:28am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3680 of 22132)

I still feel that there are not of enough clues to pick one place from another........will wait for more clues.....keep digging!........Let your concience be your guide........

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wil m chamberlain - 06:40am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3681 of 22132)

Angel where is yer potty mouth now? y dont you just click in as a guest next time none of need such "harrassment" were all just TRYING to get along!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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wil m chamberlain - 06:46am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3682 of 22132)

B______________________________TCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Swenke - 07:15am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3683 of 22132)

BEETLE BOY

To whom it may concern:

After a sleepless night of tossing and turning trying to figure out the clues all I have is a sleepy head and an inhuman desire to dig. I apprecite the insight by most people in this conference area. I have nothing new to enter except a question!

Would the writer(s) ot the clue delibertly drop people at Newell Park while all the clues point to Highland? Newell hardly seems to be the size that could support a $10,000 mob! The only parks that could support such a rush are HIGHLAND and COMO, I think we can all agree that COMO is out though, because it was found their 2 years ago by some lucky bastard that didn't even search.

Tell me what you think!

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Treasure Digger - 07:18am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3684 of 22132)

The definition of iconoclast is: The one who destroys or opposes the use of sacred images or attacks traditional beliefs or institutions So where does this take us? Is Indian Mound at all being considered?

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Ian - 07:36am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3686 of 22132)

"gettin' ready"

It appears that a number of people have AOL. This is for you:

Are you tired of being signed off when you're in the middle of IM's, e-mail, clue discussions, etc? There is a wonderful program that will answer all AOL timer (idle) messages.

The Wiz

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LBJ - 07:41am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3687 of 22132)

Highland seems to be a good bet right now after four clues, but an iconoclast must be ready to break from the ideas of the teeming masses at a moments notice. A seperate golf course and other clues sure seems to make Highland Park a plausible place for our coveted treasure.

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Terry Valentine - 07:42am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3688 of 22132)

Rehash Bash! Sunday, February 6 - In the park that the medallion is found. Pot luck picnic! Put the date on your calendar!

Good Morning!

Too many server problems to get on here last night. Like get that thing working!!!!!! Major frustration here!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm planning on doing a drive around before work this morning. I've got a couple of theories to think through and look for. I do like the Newell Park theory though. Often, if one is clever enough to see it, the park is revealed early....either by street names...(Fair way for Fairview possibly?) or by a word play..."But there's value as well in the new ...but who knows.

See you tonight if they have this server working! Geez!!!!!!

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New Daddy - 07:45am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3689 of 22132)

Does anybody know where the ski jump by Battle creek is??

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Duhhhhh - 07:46am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3690 of 22132)

I still think it's at Highland!!!!!!! That fits in with the clues best!!!!!!

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Wild Goose Chaser - 07:48am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3691 of 22132)

Be verwy verwy quwiet, I'm hunting wabbits

How do you skroll back to a specific post number? Little help anyone?

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New Daddy - 07:50am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3692 of 22132)

Could iconoclast be a reference to what the medallen is hidden in?? Could it be in a religious symbol like a cross, rosery, pentagon?? Do the vulcans have a symbol similar to a religious item??

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Terry Valentine - 07:52am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3693 of 22132)

Rehash Bash! Sunday, February 6 - In the park that the medallion is found. Pot luck picnic! Put the date on your calendar!

Wild Goose Chaser - If you look at the URL address when on this page, you'll note that the last set of numbers after the "/" is a clue number. If you overwrite that number to the number just previous to the one you want and hit enter, it will take you there.

For example - currently the number in my URL window is /3690. If I wanted to go back to see post number 3000, I'd change the 3690 to 2999. Hope that helps!

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Cammando WAyne - 07:56am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3694 of 22132)

This is crazy out here for cars slipping every where

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SLEEPLESS - 07:57am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3695 of 22132)

So who's good at history, iconoclast, anyone know of a specific person, or statue?

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Wild Goose Chaser - 08:02am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3696 of 22132)

Be verwy verwy quwiet, I'm hunting wabbits

Thanks Terry!!

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Terry Valentine - 08:03am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3697 of 22132)

Rehash Bash! Sunday, February 6 - In the park that the medallion is found. Pot luck picnic! Put the date on your calendar!

You're welcome!

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Erica Frahm - 08:11am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3698 of 22132)

Anyone have any ideas as to what 9, 5, and 4 have to do with this???

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Fishincj-99 - 08:17am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3699 of 22132)

Well I am not sure about the rest of you... but it is still to early to know exactly where to dig.......

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shayle hanson - 08:29am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3700 of 22132)

WHERE IS NEWELL PARK??? FROM DOWNTOWN ST. PAUL???? LAST NIGHT WENT TO PHALEN AND COMO NOT A SOUL THERE

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Cammando WAyne - 08:30am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3701 of 22132)

Nine five four 9.5 9.5 9.5 9.4 could be marks after a jump But all so i was thinking Figures not numbers at all, like trees ect...... stones?=clast bits of stone and when he says Value in new well i think it hint that thats the place to look. Also Im not giving up on the capital just yet losts of crazy stuff the up here that makes that makes my head spin everything connects to me and that the hard part need to look at things for "face value"

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Ian - 08:40am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3702 of 22132)

"gettin' ready"

nice crust of ice on everything

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Ma Ozzy - 08:47am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3703 of 22132)

Yup, I believe it is still too early to say a "definate", but there are a few very good possibilities...

Nothing good enough to make me want to drive around more than I have to in this ice... Ice sucks... ;-)

One of the first things I thought of with this new clue is an older, perhaps even "historical" building, bridge????, or other something that was torn down (Blasted) to make way for a new something.....

Just one of many thoughts rolling around in my head...

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Yahtzee - 08:47am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3704 of 22132)

An Iconoclast is someone agianst conventional beliefs and institutions or one who oposes the use of religious images. I was thinking along the lines of Martin Luther, whom Martin Luther King was named after. Is there a Marting Luther King park or was there a celebration at a particular park on Martin Luther King day? I know these are a stretch but this early in the clues, everything is a stretch.

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Wampa2 - 08:56am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3705 of 22132)

Ma-

The last Bridge I can remeber being blasted in St. Paul is the High Bridge on the west side.

Closest Park - Cherokee

Talk about not following traditional beliefs!

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Findor - 08:57am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3706 of 22132)

Here is an interesting place I found.. Went to Phalen Park Last Night there is a street address of 940 right by the # 5 softball field.. The place was well dugg up .. I looked around a lot and no luck..... So where is Newell Park...??

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Wampa2 - 09:00am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3707 of 22132)

Findor

900 N. Fairview Ave. (Across the tracks form Midway Stadium.)

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New Daddy - 09:03am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3708 of 22132)

9 for 9 players on a baseball team 5 for 5 players on a basketball team. 4 for doubles tennis or 2 tennis courts. all of these are at newell but also at most other parks.

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AllieGo - 09:09am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3709 of 22132)

I'm thinking it could mean not to look at any of the old parks where the medallion has been placed before.

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SueBee - 09:12am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3710 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

Morning, all. Green must've been out digging last night. It's odd not to see her on. Anyway, did some research into when the park was revealed:

1998 Cherokee, Clue 9

1997 Como, Clue 4

1996 Harriet Island, Clue 4

1995 Battle Creek, Clue 6

1994 Highland Clue, 5

1993 Hidden Falls, no explicit clue to park

1992 Cherokee, Clue 9

1991 Langford Park, Clue 7

1990 Como, Clue 8

The average of 8 of the 9 previous years, the park is given away in clue 6.5 (hee hee).

Todays "value" as "well" in the "new" is just so blaring!! It is hard to believe that they'd put it in a smaller park and give the park away this early. Hmmmm. But then, if the clue writer wants us to be an "iconoclast", we have to "attack venerated institutions and ideas."

This is getting good!

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AllieGo - 09:13am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3711 of 22132)

Okay, Matt, just read your thoughts on iconoclast. Go easy on me.

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Life-Long Bronco Fan - 09:15am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3712 of 22132)

Must find the Med to finance my SUPER BOWL CELEBRATION!!

Its pretty tough to ignore the "well" and "new" without concluding Newell.

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Fever has begun - 09:18am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3713 of 22132)

Confused!??! How about this. Pierce Butler was a delegate who opposed his own party and their beliefs. Too far fetched? Or perhaps WE are to go against the tradition of clues leading us to the right place so early on. I like value as "well" as in the "new". WHO KNOWS!!!!

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SueBee - 09:19am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3714 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

That's how I feel. Seems an odd spot for a $10,000 bounty. Maybe because it's less well known than the bigger parks. The 9-5-4 thing still has me really stumped.

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skeptical - 09:20am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3715 of 22132)

What do we have against Battle Creek?

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#18 - 09:22am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3716 of 22132)

Hey whats up hunters

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Life-Long Bronco Fan - 09:28am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3717 of 22132)

Must find the Med to finance my SUPER BOWL CELEBRATION!!

Was Pierce Butler a local? The clue-makers aren't opposed to throwing in St. Paul history.

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lyon steve - 09:29am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3718 of 22132)

Hey, What is 9+5+4? 18! What do you "Shout" when you are on the golf course? Four!! WHat do you think about this? Highland maybe.......

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AllieGo - 09:30am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3719 of 22132)

Hi Sue Bee...this is the first time I've seen you. Thought maybe you weren't hunting this year. Well, nice to see you here.

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AllieGo - 09:31am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3720 of 22132)

I haven't seen Ian either. He's hunting?

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AllieGo - 09:34am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3721 of 22132)

I'm getting weiry of digging up wrong parks. But I'm out today to do it again. By the way, all the input really gets the thought processes going, no matter if you agree or not. It helps to know someone else is out there.

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SueBee - 09:36am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3722 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

Hi Allie! Ian's around. His pic is HUGE. He came to the pre-hunt party too. I'm around, but once I get started, I don't leave and then I don't get any work done (like today). I was too tired to stay up last night, but the clue is GREAT!

Pierce Butler was born in Northfield, was a US Supreme Court Justice, and is burried in Calvary Cemetary in St. Paul. Don't know much more than that yet. Still digging.

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"Hello?!" - 09:36am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3723 of 22132)

"Common this, Common that, oh sure...blah,blah,blah"(copyright Dan Cole)

Liking the Highland park ideas: iconoclast = Highlanders, icon = Jesus Christ, Highlanders persecuted Christians, and the Christians' icon is JC

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"Hello?!" - 09:37am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3724 of 22132)

"Common this, Common that, oh sure...blah,blah,blah"(copyright Dan Cole)

I remember SueBee & AllieGo from last year!

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Life-Long Bronco Fan - 09:39am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3725 of 22132)

Must find the Med to finance my SUPER BOWL CELEBRATION!!

The 9+5+4=18 is a pretty big stretch. Why use the 9&5? Why not 8&6? Besides, it seems that the 9 and 5 go together, and the 4 is somewhat separate

The third clue generally hints at the item the medallion is located in. Maybe a KS95 bag from the State Fair? Maybe it also has a WCCO 4 logo on it too?

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SueBee - 09:39am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3726 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

Welcome, Newk2! Good to see you posting.

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Findor - 09:40am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3727 of 22132)

Here is my thoughts... Flying downhill dont close to the action -- not como The hole golf thing "four" you off the course - not by a park with course Newell is a good choice....with the 94.5 bag or something.....

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007 - 09:41am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3728 of 22132)

Hello everyone, I heard that you need a Winter Carnival button to claim the entire 10,000 is this true? If so how do I go about getting one of these buttons.

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Rojo Econ - 09:42am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3729 of 22132)

P'raps iconoclast could be a vague reference to what the medallion is attached, i.e. a ventura campaign button. Anyone see neon green (no offense green)?

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Life-Long Bronco Fan - 09:43am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3730 of 22132)

Must find the Med to finance my SUPER BOWL CELEBRATION!!

Mapquest.com doesn't show all the parks too well, especially Newell. Anyone know of a good online map?

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"Hello?!" - 09:45am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3731 of 22132)

"Common this, Common that, oh sure...blah,blah,blah"(copyright Dan Cole)

Any valuable info in the WC history(this year) that I should go digging for? Or are we all up to speed for the most part? :)

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Wampa2 - 09:46am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3732 of 22132)

007

I believe you must purchase and registar the button before the hunt starts.

Maybe next year?

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007 - 09:47am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3733 of 22132)

Hello everyone, I heard that you need a Winter Carnival button to claim the entire 10,000 is this true? If so how do I go about getting one of these buttons.

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007 - 09:48am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3734 of 22132)

Wampa2 Do you need this button to claim the entire prize?

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Rojo Econ - 09:48am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3735 of 22132)

007 you can buy a button today and mail it in ASAP. As long as it is post marked by the 28th. See rules in PP or on Web

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007 - 09:48am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3736 of 22132)

Wampa2 Do you need this button to claim the entire prize?

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SueBee - 09:49am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3737 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

007 - yes, it's true. Buttons are available all over town. There is a registration card with it. The card must be postmarked by Jan 28 (tomorrow). There's still time! Try convenience stores and the like.

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- 09:49am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3738 of 22132)

I was out digging last nite, then dinner, then home, nap, and on here and was only able to get the clue - WebCrossing down yet again...

Man this is getting so old. REAL OLD. FIX IT!

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007 - 09:49am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3739 of 22132)

Wampa2 Do you need this button to claim the entire prize?

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"Hello?!" - 09:50am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3740 of 22132)

"Common this, Common that, oh sure...blah,blah,blah"(copyright Dan Cole)

Edit testing

So don't mind this message

<c>Hey, what better time to mess around than when WC activity is LOW</c>

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SueBee - 09:50am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3741 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

The medallion is worth $5,000 if you don't have a registered button

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MEANAH - 09:50am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3742 of 22132)

MEANAH HERE, HAS ANYBODY THOUGHT OF LOOKING TO THE SACRED GROUND OF MOUNDS PARK? C'MON WORK WITH ME PEOPLE

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SueBee - 09:51am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3743 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

Hey Green, there you are. Were you digging in Newell?

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007 - 09:51am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3744 of 22132)

SueBee

Could you please name a couple of stores where I could find these buttons? And is there any cost attached to these?

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SueBee - 09:52am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3745 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

I'm really getting annoyed at having to log in again every time I post and every time I hit the RECENT button. What's up with that? Is anyone else having this problem????

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007 - 09:52am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3746 of 22132)

SueBee

Could you please name a couple of stores where I could find these buttons? And is there any cost attached to these?

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pamtollefson - 09:52am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3747 of 22132)

Hi. I'm a newcomer to the water cooler. Take the top 10 parks in St. Paul (at least the ones the treasures have been put in in the past) and narrow it down park by park. You can cross of the most recent ones, like Cherokee and Como. But from there, there are still several parks.

ollie

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007 - 09:52am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3748 of 22132)

SueBee

Could you please name a couple of stores where I could find these buttons? And is there any cost attached to these?

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SueBee - 09:52am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3749 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

Buttons cost $3.00. I don't know specific stores for sure, I bought mine at work here at 3M.

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007 - 09:53am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3750 of 22132)

SueBee

Could you please name a couple of stores where I could find these buttons? And is there any cost attached to these?

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Wampa2 - 09:53am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3751 of 22132)

007

Sue is right, 5000 without registared button, 10000 with!

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007 - 09:53am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3752 of 22132)

Thanks SueBee

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"Hello?!" - 09:54am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3753 of 22132)

"Common this, Common that, oh sure...blah,blah,blah"(copyright Dan Cole)

I used to write Web pages in raw HTML back in college(YUCK!), I just have to remember all of the little quirks

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SueBee - 09:54am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3754 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

Try calling around. It'll save you time. SA's, Tom Thumb, Snyders, Wallgreens etc. I'm guessing, but would suspect someone has them

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SueBee - 09:55am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3755 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

I gotta get back to work. More later!

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Wampa2 - 09:55am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3756 of 22132)

Sue Bee,

What Plant are you at? (Center/Chemolite/Arcade)????

And what building?

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- 09:59am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3758 of 22132)

SueBee... Should'a got one Sat nite... Bummer!!

No, not at Newell. At a 150 year old park <g>.

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"Hello?!" - 09:59am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3759 of 22132)

"Common this, Common that, oh sure...blah,blah,blah"(copyright Dan Cole)

SueBee is my hero!

SueBee(ref#3745): answer is NO

Well actually, maybe "Web Crossing" is Fouling everything up!

I DON'T KNOW ANYMORE!!!!!

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tamolleson - 10:06am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3760 of 22132)

I am new to the water cooler. I've been studying clues for YEARS and searching also.

It's been five years since it's been in Highland park and that's about right in where they put it from year to year. Battle Creek is in Maplewood right? So it won't be there. It was just at como in 1997 so it won't be there. What does that leave? Harriet island, highland park, phalen, newell, mounds mark, ....

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SueBee - 10:09am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3761 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

ok, one more post. Researched when what the medallion is in was revealed.

1998, Old Navy baby sock, clue 7

1997, Curad bandaid box wrapped in red bandanna, clue 2

1996, Skoal chewing tobacco tin, clue 2

1995 Yarn pouch, clue 1 (highly unusual)

1994 White wooden box, clue 3

1993 Baby diaper, clue 3

1992 White mitten, clue 2

1991 Hostess Snowball, clue 2

1990 Clay and grass, clue 4

Average = clue 2.8 (last year's skewed the average)

I'm guessing the 9-5-4 thing & the word "shout" in clue 3, or the word "nil" in clue 2 (meaning it's not inside of anything this year, but just naked in the snow) might be keys to what it's in (or NOT in)

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SueBee - 10:10am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3762 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

tamolleson - Battle Creek is still in St. Paul proper, just on the border of Mplwd.

Wampa - I'm at the main campus, Bldg 260

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jack groden - 10:13am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3763 of 22132)

\b how many 3m'ers we have here??

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Life-Long Bronco Fan - 10:14am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3764 of 22132)

Must find the Med to finance my SUPER BOWL CELEBRATION!!

Green- Where do we get the 150 year deal? Someone else mentioned it yesterday

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SueBee - 10:15am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3765 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

Jack, you too?

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SueBee - 10:15am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3766 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

Fan - it's the 150th anniversary of the Pioneer Press, the sponsor of the Medallion Hunt

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Wampa2 - 10:17am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3767 of 22132)

Sue Bee,

Cool!

Are you hunting tonight?

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Life-Long Bronco Fan - 10:17am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3768 of 22132)

Must find the Med to finance my SUPER BOWL CELEBRATION!!

Hmmm. I'd think they'd mention it in one of the early clues if the 150 years was relevant. *shrug*

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jack groden - 10:18am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3769 of 22132)

yea - me to....

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MEANAH - 10:19am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3770 of 22132)

yo yo yo, meanah here again. MOUNDS PARK IS THE SPOT, IM TELLING YOUS

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Brian S - 10:22am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3771 of 22132)

Mounds Park will never be the spot again. There was way too much trouble casue by the last and only time it was in mounds. There are too many idiots who walk on the mounds and dig the mounds up. PP doesnt want that kind of destruction I can guarantee it. It is one thing for some people to destroy a park in the process it is another thing when people start digging on graves. too much bad press to go with it.

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doc sven - 10:22am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3772 of 22132)

the wizard of cheese<insert cheese quote at end of post>

im heading to newell...may the cheese brie with u

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jake - 10:22am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3773 of 22132)

Hi everyone. This is my first post for the 1999 hunt. I was a cooler crew poster last year. My idea is PHALEN.

There is an old green and white shed ("past" from clue 4) which used to be the pump house for the waterfall ("blast" clue 4). The shed is located across the street from the 9 hole. There is a baseball field with the #5 on it. 4 could be 4 players golfing or the word "four".

What do you think?

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Wampa2 - 10:23am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3774 of 22132)

Sue Bee,

Are you a big stats person by trade? You are definantly ontop of the trends!

Great Job!

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Brian S - 10:24am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3775 of 22132)

Good thoughts jake but I think we still have tonights clue to go before we can specify a park and pull the clues apart more.

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lildebi - 10:27am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3776 of 22132)

hey sue bee--good to see you back--deb speidel from last year!!! do you really think it would be at harriet island with it being at cherokee last year????

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Step - 10:31am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3778 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Does anyone think Como in here?

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Serious Hunter - 10:32am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3779 of 22132)

Does anyone think that they would actually make it that easy to pinpoint the park 'NEWELL'? Could it mean it is near there,(Highland)?

Also, what about the 9,5 and somewhere a 4? I think the key to this clue is the phrase 'adorn the front door' Could it be the 9 hole golfcourse, highway 5 and the 4 referencing the golf course? Or could it be the address 954 Wheelock pky, at the entrance of Phalen (referencing the phrase 'adorn the front door') Any ideas on these? Plus what about in clue 4, about 'iconoclast' meaning 'attacker of cherished beliefs' and referencing 'the new'? Any ideas about this?

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Ian - 10:33am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3780 of 22132)

"gettin' ready"

yo yo yo, what's the dilly-o??

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Step - 10:38am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3781 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

talk people

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Doughoe - 10:38am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3782 of 22132)

007 I picked up 5 buttons at the SA on Lexington just north of 94 early Saturday morning. What? (5 - 9 - 4) ? The medallion must be at my house. Good job CC. This makes work way more interesting.

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Hollywood - 10:39am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3783 of 22132)

Look Over There! It's the Capital Dome!!!! (Jimmy Stewart - 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington')

Hey gang - was at Highland last night when the clue came out (muddled it over, dug awhile longer and went home).....

Serious Hunter - is there really a 954 wheelock address at Phalen????

SueBee - hope all is well, good to see you posting!

I believe that the 'well in the new' is a red herring for several reasons: a) WAY too early to give the name of the park that obviously (past years, its been clues 8-10 thats served that role), b) This will be the biggest hunt of all time - why give the explicit name of a small park on clue 4 if you want the hunt to make it past clue 6 at least????

Any other opinions to match my humble one???

Hollywood Dave

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Step - 10:42am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3784 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

what's a red herring?

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Serious Hunter - 10:43am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3785 of 22132)

Does anyone think that they would actually make it that easy to pinpoint the park 'NEWELL'? Could it mean it is near there,(Highland)?

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jake - 10:44am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3786 of 22132)

SERIOUS HUNTER

Are you sure about the address 954 wheelock pky at the entrance to Phalen? Did you see it? Is it on the columns?

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Step - 10:46am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3787 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Go against tradition--It's gonna be something crazy this year.

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Life-Long Bronco Fan - 10:47am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3788 of 22132)

Must find the Med to finance my SUPER BOWL CELEBRATION!!

"A nine and a five and somewhere a four" indicates to me that you would not find the 4 directly with the 9 or 5. Indirectly, maybe, but not directly. But if Phalen has a post with the address 954, thats pretty tough to ignore.

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Beth Rutherford - 10:47am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3789 of 22132)

Hi, what about the words scene,action,shout? grumpier old men.Wasn't that shot at Phalen?

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Step - 10:48am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3790 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

sure was Beth

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Swenke - 10:48am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3791 of 22132)

BEETLE BOY

Iconoclasts rebel against given truths, the fact that the clue gives us NEWELL this early is a blaten (sp) attempt to ditch some of the newbies at NEWELL, while more experienced hunters go for HIGHLAND.

Email me your thoughts: cswenke@shandwick.com

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lildebi - 10:48am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3792 of 22132)

there is a clover leaf lane on the north east side of the lake----HMMMMMMMM????????

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lildebi - 10:50am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3793 of 22132)

SLUG BUG--NO BACKS!!! HA HA

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Step - 10:50am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3794 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

lildebi--what lake are you talking about?

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lildebi - 10:52am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3795 of 22132)

OOPS SORRY, looking at the hudson, phalen ... i guess its a little more southish than north east off of east shore drive. its just a little road, but who knows?????? it is in the 1400 block?????

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Step - 11:04am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3796 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

can anyone tell me how to get to Newell?

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Wampa2 - 11:07am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3797 of 22132)

Step

Take Fairview north from University.

400 N Fairview ave. (Across the tracks form Midway Stadium)

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Beth Rutherford - 11:07am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3798 of 22132)

I think we should pay attention to the street signs.Alot of times there a hidden message in them. I think thats where to look.

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Wampa2 - 11:10am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3799 of 22132)

Beth

President in '59 - Taylor (5 and 9) Taylor street runs into Newell

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SueBee - 11:11am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3800 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

Hollywood - I agree that it's a bit early to give away Newell that easily, but it's still hard to ignore how they phrased that clue.

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Beth Rutherford - 11:12am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3801 of 22132)

I know that .thank you though. I think we need to look deeper.

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SueBee - 11:12am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3802 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

Wampa - I'm not a stats person, but Greg Sax put together an awesome web page dedicated to the Cooler Crew. at www.coolercrew.com. It has all the clues and explanations from past years etc. It made it really easy to compile the park and container lists I posted this morning.

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Wampa2 - 11:15am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3803 of 22132)

Has anyone heard from sax this year???

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Beth Rutherford - 11:16am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3804 of 22132)

Is it my computer or is this super slow?!

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Serious Hunter - 11:18am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3805 of 22132)

Hollywood - there is. I was looking at streets98 on a machine and was playing with the different variations of 9,5,4 and major streets around some of the parks and sure enough when I got to Wheelock it popped up at the entrance of Phalen. So tied that into the phrase 'adorn the front door' meaning these numbers might be visible at the entrace of the park but then clue 4 makes me think it could also be at Highland.

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Wampa2 - 11:19am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3806 of 22132)

There are issues with the system Beth, I am having the same problem.

Well I am off for the rest of the day, but will probably stop by Newell tonight?

Good luck to ALL!

Will you be out tonight Sue Bee?

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Serious Hunter - 11:21am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3807 of 22132)

The only reason I think it might be highland is it has some of the same qualities as Phalen but the numbers 9,5,4 must mean something else, I was thinking 9 hole course, hwy 5, and a 'somewhere a 4' referring to a golfer yelling four somewhere. It's like every year, the clues lead to a few parks possibly, it's still early though.

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Those Medalling Kids - 11:21am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3808 of 22132)

Serious, what from clue 4 makes you think it could be Highland?

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Those Medalling Kids - 11:23am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3810 of 22132)

Never mind Serious, you just answered my question...

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Serious Hunter - 11:25am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3811 of 22132)

TMK - the sliding hill, and the 9,5,4, explanation I stated earlier. Also the reference to NEWELL park possibly, letting you know you might be in the right area. Again it might have nothing to do with NEWELL I also think in clue 4, it could be referring to some type of future study. 'studying the past, as well as the new?? I'm really not sure.

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SueBee - 11:27am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3812 of 22132)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

Wampa - I might be out after 10 or so. have plans until then. may wait for clue 5 first . We'll see. Good luck!

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Those Medalling Kids - 11:28am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3813 of 22132)

Where is Newell by the way? Someone earlier said that it was north of Midway, but I looked it up on Mapquest and it showed that it was by Highland...

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Beth Rutherford - 11:28am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3814 of 22132)

My husband used to deliver pizzas years ago and he said the police department is #4 in highland .I don't know for sure though.

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SLEEPLESS - 11:37am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3815 of 22132)

HEY HOW COME NO ONE HAS SUGGESTED HARRIET ISLAND? I WAS THINKING THAT MAYBE 95 AND SOMEWHERE 4 MEANS A PARK INBETWEEN HIGHLAND AND BATTLE = HARRIET ISLAND?????

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hunting hermafrodite - 11:38am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3816 of 22132)

NEWELL, 9,5 and SOMEWHERE a 4 refers to KSTP, which is less then a 1/2 a mile away. and is clearly visable from any point in the park

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DAISY - 11:39am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3817 of 22132)

MapQuest is wrong.

Newell is near Hamline U. in the Midway area, and is as close to Como as it is to Highland, if you can really call it close to either one.

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Wabbit - 11:40am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3818 of 22132)

Excellant Website for historic st paul people

http://www.visi.com/~pjlareau/pep1.html

I was thinking about Pigs Eye and Pierce Butler. (There are several)

I dont think they are really iconoclasts though

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New Daddy - 11:40am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3819 of 22132)

Iconclast were also eastern orthodox in the 8 9th centuries. Are there any eastern orthdox churches aroun any of the parks?? I don't think flying down hill means sleding. What about the ski jump at battle creek

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hunting hermafrodite - 11:42am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3820 of 22132)

rosco, if ya hear me answer back SMILEY

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Those Medalling Kids - 11:43am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3821 of 22132)

Is there sledding at Newell? And what the heck is up with iconoclast? Interesting use of the vocabulary....

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New Daddy - 11:43am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3822 of 22132)

The numbers were spelled out "nine" I think this means that we should't look for an address or something wiht a number on it rather things with that number of objects such as baseball players 9 basketball players5 and double tennis players4

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Wabbit - 11:44am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3823 of 22132)

Anybody know who Hewitt Was?

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Wabbit - 11:45am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3824 of 22132)

I went to Newell several days ago and there is a sledding hill in the trees. Not standard and dangerous, but well used.

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mae carlson - 11:45am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3825 of 22132)

newell park is on the southeast corner of peirce butler route and fairview ave

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Dave Stone - 11:45am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3826 of 22132)

Newell is flat as a pancake--Its at Pierce Bulter Route and Fairview--mostly in an industrial area--Ramsey County Compost is directly across from there, and behind that, is Midway Stadium, home of the Saints.....

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hunting hermafrodite - 11:46am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3827 of 22132)

all clues point you to NEWELL, youwould have to be assinin to think other wise

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Wabbit - 11:46am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3828 of 22132)

No Dave, there is a sledding hill on the east side in the trees At Newell.

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JOE SILVA - 11:47am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3829 of 22132)

what about mounds park?

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Dave Stone - 11:49am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3830 of 22132)

Anybody think it could be by the history center, its historical, and new......and on top of the hill

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Those Medalling Kids - 11:50am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3831 of 22132)

I wondered that too Dave, but is there a park around there, or is it public ground? And how would the other clues fit in?

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JOE SILVA - 11:50am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3832 of 22132)

in the dictionary iconoclast has the words highlander and sacred so maybe either mounds park or highland park

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Wabbit - 11:57am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3833 of 22132)

Anybody think of Blast as a "boom" Like maybe Boom Site?

Is there one in St. Paul on the river?

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Dave Stone - 11:57am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3834 of 22132)

Well, it was found at the Capitol grounds, once, But, I could not think of any other park space nearby....

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JOE SILVA - 11:57am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3835 of 22132)

in the dictionary iconoclast has the words highlander and sacred so maybe either mounds park or highland park

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hunting hermafrodite - 11:57am Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3836 of 22132)

there not going to have the #'s mean an address, thats elementary, its been used every year, last night's clue used the word ICONOCLAST, out with the old and in with the new, there not going to stick to there old devent ways, another hint for you beginers iconoclast just might be a word jumble but i'll let you figure that out for yourself

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Wabbit - 12:02pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3837 of 22132)

Here are two Hewitts

Hewitt, Abram Stevens (b. July 31, 1822, Haverstraw, N.Y., U.S.--d. Jan. 18, 1903, Ringwood, N.J.), American industrialist, philanthropist, and politician who in 1886 defeated Henry George and Theodore Roosevelt to become mayor of New York City.

Hewitt, Peter Cooper (b. May 5, 1861, New York, N.Y., U.S.--d. Aug. 25, 1921, Paris, France), American electrical engineer who invented the mercury-vapour lamp, a great advance in electrical lighting.

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hunting hermafrodite - 12:07pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3839 of 22132)

hewitt, smwitt, nothing to do with it, i hope you didn't wast to much of your day finding those names

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Wild Goose Chaser - 12:08pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3840 of 22132)

Be verwy verwy quwiet, I'm hunting wabbits

I thawt I sthaw a wabbit

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hunting hermafrodite - 12:08pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3841 of 22132)

hewitt, smwitt, nothing to do with it, i hope you didn't wast to much of your day finding those names

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Wabbit - 12:09pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3842 of 22132)

Hewitt is along Newell. It may come in handy later.

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Wabbit - 12:10pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3843 of 22132)

Anybody for waste? Iconoclast? (caused the name of the city by the religious folks:

PIG'S EYE - The name by which St Paul was originally known, and the nickname of Pierre Parrant, first settler and notorious whiskey merchant of the city. By the late 1840's, this was also the name by which Grand Marais was often known. This usage has carried down to the present day, as that area is the site of the Twin Cities largest sewage treatment plant, known as the Pig's Eye Plant. Also in the 1990's, the name has become relatively famous as a popular brand of beer brewed by St. Paul's Minnesota Brewing Company.

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doc sven - 12:10pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3844 of 22132)

the wizard of cheese<insert cheese quote at end of post>

dont forget the saints scoreboard near newell....it aint easy bieng cheesy

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Rosco - 12:12pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3845 of 22132)

hunting hermy, this is rosco what time we heading out tonite

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Ms. Milwaukee - 12:13pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3846 of 22132)

EVERYTHING POINTS TO NEWELL, BUT i DON'T THINK THEY WOULD RELEASE THE PARK THIS EARLY IN THE HUNT

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K G - 12:23pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3847 of 22132)

Hey Hunting Hermy, hey it's rosco....what time are we going out tonight?

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Hollywood - 12:23pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3848 of 22132)

Look Over There! It's the Capital Dome!!!! (Jimmy Stewart - 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington')

Another thought.... Studying the past - history center near downtown is new..... Most notable iconoclast is Martin Luther who nailed his 95 feces 'er theses to the door of the catholic church during the reformation....

Just brainstorming....

Hollywood...

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Wabbit - 12:35pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3849 of 22132)

Luther Seminary is on Como Ave. I thought of Luther when I read the clue.

I dont think como though.

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K G - 12:36pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3850 of 22132)

Hollywood---get with it!!!! Don't be analyzing the word iconoclast, alright.

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K G - 12:38pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3851 of 22132)

This fourth clue definately specifies one specific park...I knew it right away...now we need to see if the next couple clues isolate its location in this park.

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pamtollefson - 12:40pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3852 of 22132)

Phalen was mentioned a few times. That's been about 15 years since last was found there. Is 954 on a house near the entrance on Wheelock Parkway.? Or will 954 be a clue into what it's hidden in? People assume that 954 is pointing to a park; but, it that might be totally off.

The old Ice Palace monument is in Phalen. Could that have something to do with the iconolastic?

ollie

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Sister Sister - 12:40pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3853 of 22132)

I don't understand the connection to Newell (except New and Well - too obvious this early). What is Flying Downhill at Newell?

Iconoclast could be referring to Martin Luther - which could just be pointing to a Lutheran Church. I haven't found a dictionary yet with the word "highlander" in the definition of iconoclast.

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Hollywood - 12:42pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3854 of 22132)

Look Over There! It's the Capital Dome!!!! (Jimmy Stewart - 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington')

I'll analyze whatever you'd like K.G.!!! What'll it be?????

(P.S. Mr. Cheese - I have a great T-SHirt from a Grateful Dead concert that shows rhythm guitarist Bob Weir - the rockstar wannabe - hammin' it up on stage and the caption on the bottom of the shirt reads 'Bob Weir - it ain't easy being cheesey!' Loved it! Bought it!)

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Sister Sister - 12:44pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3856 of 22132)

KG - which park do you think the fourth clue isolates?

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John F. Nelson - 12:44pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3857 of 22132)

I think the fourth clue tells you a name of a street in which the park is on. There could be more than one street that the park is on, this clue just tells of one though.

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Groan - 12:45pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3858 of 22132)

I'll get that imposter "Green"

Search me!

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Wild Goose Chaser - 12:46pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3860 of 22132)

Be verwy verwy quwiet, I'm hunting wabbits

I think it's in Newell Park. So, how would I get there? Same way as going to the stadium? I gotta get a map.

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Sister Sister - 12:47pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3861 of 22132)

KG - which park do you think the fourth clue isolates?

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K G - 12:48pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3862 of 22132)

The scoreboard at Municipal Stadium is clearly visible in some areas of Newell Park...another connection.

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Sister Sister - 12:49pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3863 of 22132)

John F. Nelson - what street name do you think this clue is pointing to?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 12:53pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3864 of 22132)

what if you were to line up the slide on the playground with the scoreboard of municipal and the treasure is within that line?????

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tonyfro - 12:55pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3865 of 22132)

I'm going to get it, you think I won't?

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO obvious <<<<clue contained within

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John F. Nelson - 12:56pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3866 of 22132)

Sister Sister, I think the fourth clue points to Luther Street. Because of Martin Luther who was an iconoclast.

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tonyfro - 12:58pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3867 of 22132)

I'm going to get it, you think I won't?

It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO obvious <<<<clue contained within

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K G - 12:58pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3868 of 22132)

Regalman, you obviously haven't been to this park, nor do you have any treasure-hunting experience...lining up landmarks, especially those with little interaction in the same clue is ludicrous.

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 01:00pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3870 of 22132)

Yo John, where is Luther Street?

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pamtollefson - 01:01pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3871 of 22132)

Where is Luther Street, John F. Nelson. You said that you think iconoclast points to that.

Very interesting!

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Cammando WAyne - 01:02pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3872 of 22132)

Just doing the Im think too that the history of the Treasue hunt it self has some thing to do with all of this

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K G - 01:02pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3873 of 22132)

If you pace toward the NW side of Newell park you can make visual contact with a specific reference via Clues 3&4.

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dan weiss - 01:04pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3874 of 22132)

All you lucky dogs:

Be glad for what you got. I've looked religiously for the loot since Hidden Falls, '94, and now I'm 650 miles away in Michigan.

Ahh, the hell . . .

Find that bitch!

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eva ohnson - 01:05pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3875 of 22132)

Our posse team was out last night visually scoping out parks. Two interesting tidbits to share: Phalen Park had no numbers on the entrance gates and the gates were closed. Phalen closes the entrance to the park at 11:00pm so you can't even get in that way. NO PHALEN. Como Park: Went by the slide area and there were cops there and they would not let people in the park. No COMO. Newell Park: The one thing that stood out was the KS95 tower. In clue no. 3 "954" could mean the 95 tower, but in actuallity the station number is 94.5, so the 4 would maybe be the hidden number. Clue 4 "iconoclast" is this something to do with Pierce Butler Street. Is he part of Minnesota history? Well, time to head out to Newell again for me.

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GQ - 01:06pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3876 of 22132)

is there anyone else who knows the connection between Newell and 9,5 and 4 besides me and KG

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K G - 01:08pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3877 of 22132)

GQ and myself have pinpointed the $10,000 prize...all we have to do now is go capture the damn thing before someone else does!!

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Ms. Milwaukee - 01:09pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3878 of 22132)

GQ, the 9 baseball players, 5 basketball players , and the four pillars at the entrance of the door???

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- 01:09pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3879 of 22132)

Regalman - Cool your jets on the "f"enheimers. I'm serious, man. If inappropriate language continues, you run the risk of being locked out of here. I've seen it happen.

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GQ - 01:09pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3880 of 22132)

eva the 95 tower might be a connection of many!

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K G - 01:09pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3881 of 22132)

If we're to get a productive discussion started, we will need more people to discuss!

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K G - 01:16pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3882 of 22132)

Deja-Vu

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Columbus - 01:18pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3883 of 22132)

I am a proponent of Newell, all of the clues seem to point in that direction.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 01:19pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3884 of 22132)

Why would the PP tell you what park it is in this early, 10000 is a lot of $ to say which park it is in this early. I don't see why everyone suddenly ruled out Highland

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K G - 01:20pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3885 of 22132)

Using the name Columbus, a person would think you've discovered something and could tell us something new.....Newell park has been floating around this discussion for hours and hours now..

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SNAKE - 01:20pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3886 of 22132)

1988 FINDER

NEWELL IS TO SMALL

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Columbus - 01:23pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3887 of 22132)

"But there's value as well in the new.

Be an iconoclast! Don't think big, I don't care how much money is at stake, the PP doesn't want to ruin the frisbee golf tourney at Highland, Como and Phalen have cops patrolling. Maybe this is the year of the small park.

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floyd - 01:23pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3888 of 22132)

K G what are you talking about do you even know what you are doing?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 01:23pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3889 of 22132)

I think they are just trying to trick us with Newell, They probably figure we will go on the Taylor pres. 150 ann. thing.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 01:24pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3890 of 22132)

thank you floyd

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John F. Nelson - 01:24pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3891 of 22132)

Say what year did this hunt actually start?

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- 01:25pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3892 of 22132)

Regalman, you delete your post? If not, it was deleted by PP... And the WebCrossing was just down...

Does this lead anyone to the conclusion I've come to? Now, I *know* this is a novel idea, but *maybe* if the language gets cleaned up around here, MAYBE the WebCrossing won't go down as often!!!

It's worth a try - seems everyone's getting really, really tired of not being able to get in and post.

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Wabbit - 01:26pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3893 of 22132)

Pierce Butler.

There are many of them. THe Minnesota one:

Butler, Pierce (b. March 17, 1866, near Northfield, Minn., U.S.--d. Nov. 16, 1939, Washington, D.C.), associate justice of the United States Supreme Court (1923-39).

Nothing about him except he was very, very conservative.

Theres an Irish Pierce Butler as well. A bit more controuversial, I believe, but not much

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floyd - 01:27pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3894 of 22132)

your welcome regalman i think this is a set up. its a trick.

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K G - 01:27pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3895 of 22132)

You'll know what I've been doing when you see me in the St. Paul Pioneer Press in the morning....

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hacksaw - 01:29pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3896 of 22132)

Hey Snake, that's what she said.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 01:29pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3897 of 22132)

cocky enough KG, why don't you just go to newell right now and go pick it up since you "have it pinpointed"

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floyd - 01:29pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3898 of 22132)

dont even want to know what you would be doing.

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eva ohnson - 01:30pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3899 of 22132)

The treasure hunt began in 1952.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 01:30pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3900 of 22132)

KG, for what 1st degree murder

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floyd - 01:31pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3901 of 22132)

yeah go show your stuff K G

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GK - 01:31pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3902 of 22132)

they are probably letting us know the park right away so we don't go tearing the shit out of other parks-especially with golf courses-remember there is only 11 clues this year unlike years past with 14 or 15

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Ian - 01:31pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3903 of 22132)

"gettin' ready"

...just returned from Newell, Highland, and Como...

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John F. Nelson - 01:32pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3904 of 22132)

The park is highland because its located off of Ford Parkway.

Henry Ford was your iconoclast and yes there was old Fords

off great value as well as the new Ford cars and trucks of today.

One more thing, if Henry Ford's Model T came out in 1952, well

get this, the medallion hunt started in 1952!

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Sister Sister - 01:33pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3905 of 22132)

What is the "Flying Downhill" at Newell Park?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 01:35pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3906 of 22132)

sister sister my guess would be devils den

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K G - 01:35pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3907 of 22132)

Here's the story: Yesterday afternoon a St. Paul man ended early what was thought to be a lengthy hunt for the St. Paul Winter Carnival Medallion. Since K G had purchased and registered the winter carnival button and is now entitled to the $10,000 prize. He has a verbal agreement to split the lump sum with G K, also of St. Paul. Congratulations K G.

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GK - 01:36pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3908 of 22132)

sister sister you will be flying downhill if I see you there

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Sister Sister - 01:36pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3909 of 22132)

What is devils den?

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SNAKE - 01:36pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3910 of 22132)

1988 FINDER

I LIKE HP RIGHT NOW

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Ian - 01:38pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3911 of 22132)

"gettin' ready"

Folks, I've never found the damn thing, but I've walked over it 3 of the past 5 years. I began 'seriously' hunting in the middle of the 1992 hunt.

I never make BOLD statements, but I believe this to be true:

It ain't Newell

If there is barely enough parking at 12:30 on a Wednesday afternoon, clue 4, how can the park handle the 100's who will be 'in the search' ?????

The military vehicles at Como are there because the Army Engineers are building the snow slide.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 01:38pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3912 of 22132)

certain spot at newell in NE corner, big hill going up toward wood like area. Believe me gowing up at newell and being there every day it is a thrill to go down on sled or bike, and people are attracted to it. since it is off in a corner it is easy to stay away from it.

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GK - 01:39pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3913 of 22132)

Ian its been at newell before why not now

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Ms. Milwaukee - 01:40pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3914 of 22132)

Newell or Highland???

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K G - 01:41pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3915 of 22132)

Hey Regalman, WAKE UP MAN (Woman)!!!

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Ian - 01:42pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3916 of 22132)

"gettin' ready"

This thing (the hunt) has grown tremendously in the past decade.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 01:43pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3917 of 22132)

why

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John F. Nelson - 01:45pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3918 of 22132)

This year it's at HIGHLAND PARK, becaue of Ford Parkway. There is great value in old Fords just like the new Fords of today.

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G. Sax - 01:46pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3919 of 22132)

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I'm planting my shovel at Mears Park! But seriously folks, these clues are the most intriguing I've seen in years. They seem to tell so much but offer just the right spice of mixed messages. I've heard lots of good theories about the numbers, but nothing solid yet about an address, which I believe is key to the "adorn the front door" clue.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 01:47pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3920 of 22132)

With ya John, had that figured out, but acted confused on here so more people go to newell, and less to HP

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Step - 01:47pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3921 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

dude, the model T came out in like 1902, not 52!!!

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The Boss - 01:48pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3923 of 22132)

Where is Mears Park?

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Sister Sister - 01:48pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3924 of 22132)

Highland seems like the best bet. Maybe Como.

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Those Medalling Kids - 01:48pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3925 of 22132)

Nelson, I thought the Model T was introduced earlier in the century than the 50s. I also wonder about the idea of it being at a smaller park. This contest has grown, and with the creation of this cooler crew chat, there are a lot more ideas being passed around. A smaller park would get blitzed because of this rise in popularity and ability to see all these ideas so easily. It seems early to be naming a smaller park so soon...

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doc sven - 01:50pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3926 of 22132)

the wizard of cheese<insert cheese quote at end of post>

who was newell named after?could that be a connection?.....behold the power of cheese

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Ms. Milwaukee - 01:50pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3927 of 22132)

It seems(IS) too early to name any park period

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Those Medalling Kids - 01:51pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3929 of 22132)

If it is possibly Como or HP, how does last night's clue fit in?

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MJ - 01:53pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3930 of 22132)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

ICONOCLAST = SEVERE CRITIC, CRITIC, FANATIC, DISSENTER, RADICAL, REBEL, RENEGADE, HEATHEN, NONCONFORMIST, INDIVIDUALIST.

No where have I found that it relates to anything regarding religion, or religious items.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 01:53pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3931 of 22132)

At HP the value is in the neww water towers not the old visible from the whole park, and Henry Ford was an iconoclast.

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The Geo Kid - 01:54pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3932 of 22132)

If it's at Como last night's clue fits in with iconoclast. Go against popular belief that it won't be a Como, based on it was there two years ago.

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Andy Goldman-Gray - 01:55pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3933 of 22132)

Does anyone think that it is on the State Capitol Grounds. The slide was there last year (flying downhill) The capitol used to be at 954 University Ave and can anyone think of our most famous iconoclast right now. Maybe Jesse "the medallion" Ventura?

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Those Medalling Kids - 01:55pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3934 of 22132)

Regal, how do you get value as being the water towers? And saying that Ford was an iconoclast is a bit of a stretch in my mind...

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Wabbit - 01:55pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3935 of 22132)

Who was Newell?

This is from the Pigs Eye Notepad. http://www.visi.com/~pjlareau/pep1.html

NEWELL, F. [P.] S. - Born in 1814 in Illinois. A laborer in St. Paul in 1850. [MN50]

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The Geo Kid - 01:57pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3936 of 22132)

Iconoclast does have to do with religious beliefs. According to my Webster it is in reference to 8th and 9th century Orthodox beliefs against the use of icons.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 01:57pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3937 of 22132)

good for you think what you want i'll think what I want

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Wabbit - 01:58pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3938 of 22132)

What about Icons? Maybe there is a play on words here. What else is an Icon?

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shayle hanson - 01:59pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3939 of 22132)

good question!!!! (those medalling kids)...i have to work during the day but my friend is out looking while i am keeping track of clues... and she just came back from highland she said that their is a few people out there but they are not digging...she went to newell and tons of people there.. someone also mentioned not enough parking...cherokee had no parking only along streets....that has got nothing to do with it...it cant be at phalen because it is closed past 11:00 AND I DONT THINK COMO EITHER BECAUSE THERE WAS COPS THERE BY THE ARMY TRUCKS AND DID NOT WANT ANYONE ON THE GROUNDS BECAUSE YOU COULD SEE NEW CONSTRUCTION WITH THE PAVILLIONS AND ALL.....

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Step - 02:00pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3940 of 22132)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

I heard that there was only going to be 11 clues this year, is this true and why?

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MJR - 02:00pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3941 of 22132)

MJ....i found iconoclast in my dictionary to have something to do with religoun..... iconoclast: one who attacks conventional or cherished beliefs and institutions as being false or harmful. one who seeks to destroy or oppose the use of images used in religious worship, esespecially one who formally opposed the use of images in teh Christian church

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Sister Sister - 02:01pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3942 of 22132)

Highland seems like the best bet. Maybe Como.

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Ian - 02:01pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3944 of 22132)

"gettin' ready"

the street parking at Cherokee was sufficient

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Those Medalling Kids - 02:02pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3945 of 22132)

If its at Newell, I wouldn't be surprised if it was found in the next day or two, with how small it reportedly is. I saw Cherokee last year and the place was a wasteland. Newell I bet is smaller...

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Ms. Milwaukee - 02:04pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3946 of 22132)

Hey Peter does a park have to be a play area? no. Fom highland Pkwy to edgcumbe, and from 7th (5) and Snelling everything given so far is boundaries for it and things in the park

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pamtollefson - 02:05pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3947 of 22132)

MJ--You must be looking at a thesaurus. In webster's dictionary it does say one who destroys religious images or opposes their veneration or one who attacks established beliefs or institutions.

why does everyone think 954 has to do with the park. Past clues indicate that the first few clues suggest what the medallion is actually hiddin in.

Someone mentioned the Capitol area. There is a statute of Columbus on the grounds. Was he iconoclastic?

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Peter Barry - 02:06pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3948 of 22132)

regalman- the only area in the park where you can see the hill is where the water towers are. near the hockey rink.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 02:07pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3949 of 22132)

who says you have to see objects, they just have to be in the park

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John F. Nelson - 02:07pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3950 of 22132)

Is there 11 or 12 clues this year?

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Those Medalling Kids - 02:08pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3951 of 22132)

Pam, I've seen a few definitions of iconoclast referring to religion, and I think the origin has to do with going against religious icons/idols. You're right in that the past early clues told what it was in, but last year we didn't learn it until clue 7. There is no real formula for the clues unfortunately. Hard to tell if its telling us location or what its in....

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hunting hermafrodite - 02:28pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3953 of 22132)

all clues point to prospect park

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Sister Sister - 02:29pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3954 of 22132)

From the webster dictionary:

1 : one who destroys religious images or opposes their veneration 2 : one who attacks settled beliefs or institutions

Could be religious or not.

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Nelldog - 02:30pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3955 of 22132)

It's mine and Steps this year!

Gimme one good point to why it's at prospect park.

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steve allen - 02:30pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3956 of 22132)

Does anyboady think it is by a church,well which one?

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Bobby Clarke - 02:32pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3957 of 22132)

At this point and time I would like to say.....Pick a straw,any straw...............

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hunting hermafrodite - 02:36pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3958 of 22132)

there was once a church on the grounds of prospect park, looking over the bluff, it was torn down in 1945 by a iconoclast by the name of d. schwartz. after that they had built the park they named it prospect park because it was a prospect of open land so close to the city

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hunting hermafrodite - 02:37pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3959 of 22132)

any questions

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The Map Master - 02:38pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3960 of 22132)

Hide It and They Will Dig

With all the people who think that's it's at Newell, is there any park left to dig in right now?

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hunting hermafrodite - 02:43pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3961 of 22132)

any at all

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hunting hermafrodite - 02:47pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3962 of 22132)

hey rosco, i think regalman bats for the other team

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KELLY MURPHY - 02:53pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3964 of 22132)

PROSPECT PARK IS IN MPLS FOLKS

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steve allen - 02:55pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3965 of 22132)

how do you know about the church in prospect, if you are right its worth checking out.

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hunting hermafrodite - 02:55pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3966 of 22132)

is there any body out there

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Matt Dwyer - 02:55pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3967 of 22132)

is there an highlander park i'm not sure cause i'm from pittsburgh but i'm coming to St.Paul this friday to come see some family and look for it

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Ms. Milwaukee - 02:55pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3968 of 22132)

Does everyone think newell

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Matt Dwyer - 02:56pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3969 of 22132)

is there an a highlander park...i don't know cause i'm from pittsburgh nd i'mcoming to St.Paul this weekend to visit my family

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David Medallion - 02:58pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3970 of 22132)

the only thing iconoclast means is.......a lost coin.......pay more attention to .......value is in the new

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hunting hermafrodite - 02:58pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3971 of 22132)

murphy, theremy be a prospect park in minneapolis forks but obviously that is not the one i am talking about you dumb ass

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Matt Dwyer - 02:58pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3972 of 22132)

is there an highlander park cause i dunno cause i'm from Pittsburgh PA and i'm coming to St.Paul with my family next week to vist my uncle

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steve allen - 02:59pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3973 of 22132)

how do you know about the church in prospect, if you are right its worth checking out.

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Cammando WAyne - 03:01pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3974 of 22132)

The Prospect park is MPLS GO there and you are really cold

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Rosco - 03:02pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3976 of 22132)

Hey Kelly- Prospect lies on the other side of Ohio St. from Cherokee, Ohio St. used to be a famous hill to slide down on the West Side, I heard that you could "FLY" down it

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hunting hermafrodite - 03:02pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3977 of 22132)

don't think anybody knows what iconoclast means because everybody has a different definition for it, like i said earlier it's a god damn word jumble that points you to prospect park, come on people work with me!!!

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pamtollefson - 03:04pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3978 of 22132)

Dave Medallion--how did you get that for iconoclast--a lost coin?

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Rosco - 03:04pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3979 of 22132)

I got your back hunting hermy, as far as I'm concerned all the clues point towards Prospect

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Cammando WAyne - 03:05pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3980 of 22132)

I ve got reason to belive that the capital is the spot

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David Medallion - 03:05pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3981 of 22132)

doesn't anyone think that the "studying the past refers to zachary taylor...the president 150 years ago.....since the press is 150th anniversary.....taylor street which runs into newell park

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hunting hermafrodite - 03:05pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3982 of 22132)

commando-- i am very hot because i know its in prospect park and it seems that the parkly challenged, i won't say names(commando), have no idea where to find it.

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David Medallion - 03:07pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3984 of 22132)

if you unscramble the word iconoclast you come up with a lost coin....with a extra c

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Treasure Digger - 03:08pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3985 of 22132)

Looking back at previous messages, does anyone know where Luther Street is by Newell Park. I have several maps of Newell Park and no Luther Street is by this park. Please help?

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David Medallion - 03:09pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3986 of 22132)

where does luther come in ?

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hunting hermafrodite - 03:11pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3987 of 22132)

to those who ask "how ever do you know there was once a church there" because i frecken went there, i'm an 85 year old and just because i lost my legs in the war doesn't mean i lost my memory

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Treasure Digger - 03:12pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3988 of 22132)

People were making the reference to Martin Luther, King being a iconoclast. So therefore the street "Luther" meant Newell Park. I can't make that connection, myself. But others were. I can't quite think that Martin Luther as an iconoclast, but I don't know all of his history.

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hunting hermafrodite - 03:13pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3989 of 22132)

rosco- peace out my night job as a male no legged whore calls, got to make money some how,....audi 5000

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Birdie15 - 03:13pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3990 of 22132)

Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Children of all ages, Watercooler Crew proudly brings to you, 1 half of the Dub-C Knobs...... BIRDIE15

Hey, Birdie here. I have told everyone Newell since clue#2 and I am not changing now. Every clue leads to Newell. If you want an explaination, I'll give em

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Treasure Digger - 03:13pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3991 of 22132)

Hunting, what does that have to do with the medallion?

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David Medallion - 03:13pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3992 of 22132)

am telling you iconoclast does not mean diddly squat

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Birdie15 - 03:15pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3993 of 22132)

Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Children of all ages, Watercooler Crew proudly brings to you, 1 half of the Dub-C Knobs...... BIRDIE15

There is no Luther street near NP

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Rosco - 03:15pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3995 of 22132)

hermy as soon as the clue comes out tonite i'll roll you into prospect

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David Medallion - 03:15pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3996 of 22132)

does anyone believe the taylor theory?.....cause i sure as hell do

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Birdie15 - 03:16pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3997 of 22132)

Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls, Children of all ages, Watercooler Crew proudly brings to you, 1 half of the Dub-C Knobs...... BIRDIE15

I agree Dave, I believe Iconoclast probably means nothin. At least at this point

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lildebi - 03:16pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3998 of 22132)

OK ALL, break out the hudson...along the east side of the mississippi river on the st paul side.. is it part of highland park that runs along river road??? if this is a public park, it runs right by ford motor co and the st paul seminary. also it is right across the street from town and country club, plus highland also has a course... I DONT KNOW JUST A STAB IN THE DARK!!!!!

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Treasure Digger - 03:17pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#3999 of 22132)

David, it means something. Which definition it means, none of us knows. But you have to keep everything in mind, just in case it does refer to something. I've got to step away for a few moments. I'll be back.

doc sven - 03:17pm Jan 27, 1999 CST (#4000 of 22132)

the wizard of cheese<insert cheese quote at end of post>

the newell who was part of st paul history also lived about 150 years ago too..another connection?....gimme my cheese

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