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It's time for the Medallion Hunt! The first clue will appear on PioneerPlanet just after midnight Saturday, Jan. 22. Come back here to compare notes with other treasure seekers, but be certain you read the rules on the Planet's Winter Carnival page.

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- 01:13am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1171 of 22130)

Brad, you're a goose. Don't see what you're apologizing for. Apologize when you've done something really wrong or embarrassing!

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storm - 01:18am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1172 of 22130)

Hey Bill King, you expect us to read these clues and and not "read" anything into them? That would be too easy.

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storm - 01:20am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1173 of 22130)

Stay the course, Green...hmmmmm, that could mean something given the most recent clues.

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- 01:28am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1174 of 22130)

Storm, you're a hoot!!! And a love!!

I'm full'a "piss and vinegar; meaner'un cat crap," as my grandmother used to say!!!

I stay the course thru the entire Hunt... Usually a titch off o'Ground Zero!!! But at least last year I got into Chair-O-Key WAYYYYY before the Mounders!!!

(I'd been in Battle Creek....)

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Barton Fink - 01:29am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1175 of 22130)

IM ON TO SOMETHING HUGE HERE.... THE LAST WORDS OF CLUES #1 AND #2 ARE SCENE & ACTION.... HENCE FILMMAKING.... ANYONE???? I ALREADY SUGGESTED THE JINGLE ALL THE WAY FILMING LOCALES OR POSSIBLY A SMALL STUDIO NEAR THE SITE???

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Barton Fink - 01:30am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1176 of 22130)

oh yeah... whats the deal with all this presidential talk???

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Dave Young - 01:31am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1177 of 22130)

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I still think it's in Highland!

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- 01:34am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1178 of 22130)

Hay, DDY!!!

Why?

<g>

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- 01:35am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1179 of 22130)

Can't call me a SNOOZER tonite... Can you, Buster??!!!

And I only have to get up at 5:00 a.m.!!!

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- 01:37am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1180 of 22130)

DDY... Jello?

You working or cruising???

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Dave Young - 01:38am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1181 of 22130)

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It has a golf course nearby. It is a large park with plenty of room for diggers.

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- 01:40am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1182 of 22130)

And Lincoln was killed in Ford Theatre...

And will you allow me to Stretch (had to capilatize it for Stretch on KQRS...) it... HE WAS CAUGHT!!! <g>

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Dave Young - 01:42am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1183 of 22130)

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What's Ford and Lincoln got to do with the clues?

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- 01:45am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1184 of 22130)

Sheesh! You've NOT SLOGGED!! SHAMEY!!!

First clue - "scene"

Actor/plays/scene...

Lincoln was shot in FORD Theatre...

Ford Pkwy????

And stretching... Boothe was *caught*!!! (BIG HUGE STRETCH!)

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Barton Fink - 01:46am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1185 of 22130)

Hey Green.... could ya explain the reasoning behind all the dead presidents babble???

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- 01:47am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1186 of 22130)

Take it with a grain, David Dean...

Yust my thoughts and opinions!

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- 01:47am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1187 of 22130)

Read up, Barton.

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Barton Fink - 01:49am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1188 of 22130)

Okay green... that is quite a Gelfan if i do say so myself... last year i thought rosebud meant the prize was under a snoglobe... but of course it was the more simplistic sledding hill... So heed my advice and stick to filmmaking clues... there is no "action" called in plays... only movies... and obviously scene is a direct relation to film....

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Dave Young - 01:49am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1189 of 22130)

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But is there a park on Ford Parkway?

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Barton Fink - 01:50am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1190 of 22130)

For once i think i may be on to something...

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- 01:51am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1191 of 22130)

Sweetie, Highland Park!

Ford Pkwy divies the GOLF COURSE from the park park part!!!

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- 01:52am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1192 of 22130)

Burton, YOU GO, BOYFRIEND!!!

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sharkcage - 01:52am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1193 of 22130)

cross country skiing is pretty popular on the golf course across the street from the castle site. same message, 2 clues, thats that. over analyzing creates short cicuit loops that can be non-productive and painful. most clues mean one, maybe 2 things. early clues vague, later clues sometimes specific, one things for sure, if one clue don't fit get in your vehick'le and move. wild goose chases are part of the game,look at everyone at indian mounds last year. when the pyramid clue came out, it blew out IM park. we could know its in phalen right now and still be looking y2k. it should be another fun year, see ya all out their.

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Dave Young - 01:53am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1194 of 22130)

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My point exactly! Then why do you dispute when I say Highland Park?

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Barton Fink - 01:53am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1195 of 22130)

so Green... you think all the coffee and years of studying film actually helped me solve a clue???... if so IT WAS WORTH IT!!!!

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- 01:56am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1196 of 22130)

Davie, do not dispute... Still noodling everything. Just wanted to give you all my insites/ideas/may-not-be-rites I've discovered this year!!!

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- 01:58am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1197 of 22130)

1-0-3

Phalen, Highland, Battle Creek.

Yust my opinion!

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Dave Young - 01:58am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1198 of 22130)

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Sounds good, Green! It will be interesting!

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- 01:59am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1199 of 22130)

You GO, DDY!!!

FIND IT!!! MAKE THE CC PROUD!!!

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Dave Young - 01:59am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1200 of 22130)

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Sure will, Green! Meanwhile, I think I'll grab this JOE!!!

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Barton Fink - 02:00am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1201 of 22130)

So exactly what parks DO have golf courses near or attached?? That clue may also mean just the opposite... to stay away from the parks with golf courses... ????

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Dream Team - 02:02am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1203 of 22130)

Wow, Green!!!

We just logged back on, your mom help you write that response???

Not trying to bash any seasoned hunters, but anybody who finds an earmuff and throws it back because their mom says without takong a closer look at it doesn't deserve to win!!!

Lets see how good you are??? If looking at things from the past is what you are good at!!!

Last year on this site we identified the hiding place with the correct explanations of the clues way before anybody else!!!

If you can figure out who we are, then maybe some credince can be given to your interpretations!!!

Give it a shot!!! We will give you three guesses and we bet you do not even come close!! Just like the current explanations we have seen out of you!!!

We suggest you take us up on the offer!!! If you can find out who we are at least you will leave this years hunt having found something, rather than going home empty handed again!!!

Good Luck, we know you are going to need it!!!

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Dave Young - 02:02am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1204 of 22130)

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An old trick!!!

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Barton Fink - 02:05am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1205 of 22130)

Hey dream Team.... finally some common sense has enter the mushpan of brain waves collected here... You got any ideas on my scene/action= something to do with film theory??

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Barton Fink - 02:07am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1206 of 22130)

just realized that the spools on videotapes are about the same size as the $10,000 piece o plastic...

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- 02:10am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1207 of 22130)

Barton, you *ever* read what's been posted prior to when you logged on??? Like, slog????

If you *would*, not only would your question bee answered, but you *mite* even get an education on clues, how The Hunt's set up, bee able do read what udders are thinking.

Like, you know? I'm tired o'posting every time some Tom/Dick/Harry/Jill/Jane/Mary asks, giving them an answer, over and over again...

Say!!! Here's a novel concept!!! Read what's been posted prior to you posting!!! You mite learn something - and also have your question answered at the same time!

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gil gamesh - 02:10am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1208 of 22130)

so which park is the consensus here?

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Dream Team - 02:14am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1209 of 22130)

I think you may be on to something with the scene/action theme!!!

The videotape spool "IS" smaller than the treasure but we like the way you think!!!

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Barton Fink - 02:18am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1210 of 22130)

I already SCANNED through all 1000+ posts... and the president thing is a waste of brain cells... just like picking chunks off of a donut head and eating them... And ive been hunting since i was 5 with the parents... granted thats only 17 years but what i HAVE learned is that people try to find TOO MUCH in the clues... last words in clues have led to either locales or the actual object in which the med was hidden... im not raging, just trying to clear my name and give some input....

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Dave - 02:18am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1211 of 22130)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

I think clue #2 could mean it is in a park close to one of these big ones, even within view, but dont get too close to the action where everybody is digging in the big park???? cause thats not it. Not many times, if ever have they thrown two clues in a row that could both go either one way or the other. And I agree with an earlier poster who reminded us they would NEVER narrow it down to 2-3 parks on the first clue with the golf course clue. I think its telling us to stay away from a park with these things, but nearby enough to use them as reference. Make sense? Maybe not but they have really set the stage to nail us with a small park this year(after so many big ones in a row!), I just think it would be too lame to go to one of the big ones again unless it were Phalen. Just Getting warmed up here!!!

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gil gamesh - 02:24am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1212 of 22130)

so its not at 1431 n. lexington pkwy?

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- 02:24am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1213 of 22130)

Dream... I think it best you edit your diatribe big time. You will be hurting innocent people if you don't.

Why the vinegar??? Nail me and harrass me as much as you want. But why? What have I done to hurt you? If it makes you feel better and a *bigger* person for it - Good. Get it outta your system. Egos only inhibit digging.

Now... BOCK TO THE HUNT!!!!

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Barton Fink - 02:27am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1214 of 22130)

Hmmm... I think they have to go with a big park this year since the prize will generate more people digging than ever... more people that dig so they give us more ground to cover...??? and yes i agree that the golf course clue isnt narrowing the parks to the ones that HAVE them... i think it's ruling them out... so there's still a ton of parks left to ponder over... (one's with sledding,skiing hills of course)

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- 02:28am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1215 of 22130)

Barton, RITE ON!!!

I'm #1 Purrson that reads too much into a clue!!!

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gil gamesh - 02:31am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1216 of 22130)

there is downhill skiing at como - near the golf course

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DAISY - 02:31am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1217 of 22130)

I was out at Highland with a friend and we ran into two other treasure hunters. For now, I still think it's as good a place as any to dig.

The freezing rain we got a few days ago is an annoyance for two reasons -- it hurts my shins when I shuffle through the snow, and it makes every stroke with a hoe or shovel feel like I've struck something much more significant that a chunk of ice covered snow!

There were some mysterious looking footprints in the snow that appeared to be about three days old. Some just seemed to start and end in the middle of nowhere I followed them a bit and did the obligatory digging out around bike racks, picnic tables, fenceposts and benches. Someone has to do it!

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Barton Fink - 02:33am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1218 of 22130)

Alright!!! i got green back on my side... (whew, now i can sleep eeezy) now with the help of Dream Team (which is probably only one person with 12 personalites and 12 pairs of Nikes) we can get some pre digging-digging done!!!

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gil gamesh - 02:33am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1219 of 22130)

so, with that in mind, perhaps it is on one of the tee boxes at the bottom of the downhill

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G. Sax - 02:34am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1220 of 22130)

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Digging already? That's just crazy talk (but in a good way). And I'm glad someone's digging around the things that the medallion will surely not be hidden near. It'll prevent me from getting the urge to do the same.

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Dave Young - 02:34am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1221 of 22130)

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Go, Daisy! That's the spirit! I plan to be out in Highland myself in a couple days. Maybe I'll see you there!

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Barton Fink - 02:36am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1222 of 22130)

Hey Daisy.. why were the footprints mysterious??? i know for a fact that the hiding team all wear size 10 1/2 D shoes with eagle imprints on the bottom...

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Dave Young - 02:36am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1223 of 22130)

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Hey, Greg!! Nice to see you! I see you haven't used any of my pictures yet!

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Dave - 02:37am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1224 of 22130)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

I must admit thusfar though, the Como thing does make sense with the sledding and the action going on in part of the park this year, and in such a big $year$ no park could handle soooo many people like Como could, just having a hard time swallowing only 2 years since it was there last!

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Barton Fink - 02:39am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1225 of 22130)

I'm telling ya'll.... THINK MOVIES... last year it was Citizen Kane, this year the first 2 clues have spawned action & scene for final words...

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- 02:43am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1226 of 22130)

Daisy, YOU GO, GIRLFIEND!!! BE HAPPY AND DIG!!!

Barton, YOU GOOSE!!! I've wet my pants over you last post!!! I'm chopped liver!! I'm nuttin'... Nuttin' but yet anudder misbeguided soul, hung up on hunting The Med... Drooling, nooding, pondering, wishing...

YOU CRACK ME UP, Barton!!!

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Dream Team - 02:44am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1227 of 22130)

Didn't think you were up to it!!!!

All the *udders* were wondering if you *mite* *ever* accept the challenge.

We figured you wouldn't!!!

Not trying to hurt any innocent people!!! You were the one that brought all the *udders* into this!!!

Hey Barton,your prose seems awfully familiar, you sure your telling us the truth about your identity???

P.S. We only own 7 pairs of Nikes collectively

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G. Sax - 02:49am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1228 of 22130)

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Dave: Pics will go up soon. Time is hard to find. I have to stay up 'til 3 a.m. just to see what fellow hunters are thinking. Look forward to seeing more tomorrow. It's a worknight so I must to go.

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Dave Young - 02:51am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1229 of 22130)

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OK, thanks, Greg! See you later!

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Treasureman - 02:52am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1230 of 22130)

I have the treasure in my sights!

Guess what folks......you all are reading WAY too much into the clues.....the spot is right under your nose.........i went there tonite and looked around! Its the treasure chest at the bottom of a hill where children play!

Good Luck!

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- 02:54am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1231 of 22130)

Barton, understand not a bit what you say..

Greg, waiting on your response to my years. Ter says she got e-mail from you today...

Yours to me izz holding up Web site info. Please hurry with your answer...

I'm outta here, all!!! Not gonna bee worth doggiee do-do come work time....

HSMD to you all!!!

See you tomorrow nite!!!!

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Dave Young - 02:56am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1232 of 22130)

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(So Green's gonna snooze.....) SCD, Green!!!

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Barton Fink - 02:58am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1233 of 22130)

One more final thought about my scene & action=film idea... the slogan for the carnival is no time for cold feet which the PiPress thinks is a reference to OUR OWN GOVERNER's line from predator "i aint got time to bleed"... seeing as how our gov. is one of the finest actors to ever grace the big screen (a BIT of a stretch) the hunt may reflect that...

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Barton Fink - 03:00am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1234 of 22130)

Well... i am goin to bed-land... i'll be back to catch up on the next clue around midnight and to catch up on posts... LATER!!!!

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DaBrewMan - 05:05am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1235 of 22130)

Can I bring something to drink that will keep me warm while I search?? :)

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emmy & hannah's mom - 05:19am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1236 of 22130)

<--------Click here for a picture of emmy & hannah!

Well, guys...as much as I had hoped for it, my dreams did not lead me to any specific parks. Bummer!! I like the Highland theory - except I think they would have plowed out more parking areas - same thing with Mounds - none of the parking areas are open there. I don't know about Battle Creek (which is a good runner up in my mind), but I do know Phalen's lots are all open.

Ittiz going to kill me to not be on from work like the entire day! Will prolly get here for a bit this afternoon tho! Happy Noodling!!

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Go-Go Gopher - 05:59am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1237 of 22130)

Tickin' away - the moments that make up a dull day.............

None of those parks are right - I'll let you know the right one after I have the medallion in my sweaty little palms!!!

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Dave - 06:54am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1239 of 22130)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Anyone ever heard of PIGS EYE PARK?????

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the two faced bandit - 06:56am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1240 of 22130)

THE OFFICIAL MEDALLION HUNTER OF THE NEW MILLENIUM

Morning all, I like Highland so far, but Mounds and Phalen aren't ruled out yet. I'll bee bock 2nite for some noodling.

Green, sorry I missed the STB-L!!! But like I said, the bandit carries a heavy, heavy schedule on his shoulders.

See y'all 2nite

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Alan & Jill - 07:06am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1241 of 22130)

alias "The Woman and I" '98

Let's go Diggin!!!

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Eagle Eye - 07:07am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1242 of 22130)

Dream Team: I could probably figure out who you are if you'll tell me what song your phone number plays...

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Golden Boy - 07:19am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1243 of 22130)

Good Morning Y'all. Dave - Pig's Eye Park may be a possibility with "flying" (#2) - St. Paul Airport; "don't get caught" (#1) - Ramsey County Jail is visible from there - up on the bluff on Kellogg.

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Ronald Young - 07:19am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1244 of 22130)

Hail Boreas

Phalen is overdue

Check out my Winter Carnival Button site

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Golden Boy - 07:25am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1245 of 22130)

Hmm. No-one's talking. Must be a big secret where the treasure is. Gotta go to work. See you at noon.

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Dave Wold - 07:27am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1246 of 22130)

maybe "scene" of a crime?

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Dave - 07:28am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1247 of 22130)

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Yeah thats why i mentioned it someone mentioned mounds and flying down hill. Makes sense but I've never actually been to Pigs Eye Park. Who Knows, my Top 5 now are PigsEye, Como, Phalen, Highland, Mounds!

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Golden Boy - 07:30am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1248 of 22130)

Yes - Dave. "Scene" of crime and "won't get caught" - could refer to criminal element (ie; jail, police station, etc.) Green mentioned police station at Highland Pk last night. I think there is something to the criminal thing - may have to wait for later clues to pin it down.

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Dave - 07:31am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1249 of 22130)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

VERY NICE Collection of Buttons, WoW. I'd imgine you'll hear from Greg Sax pretty soon bout that collection!

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Golden Boy - 07:32am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1250 of 22130)

See ya at noon.

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Dave - 07:34am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1251 of 22130)

I Wanna Do It Again....I Can't Wait Another YEAR!!!

Yeah its so hard to sit and wait thats why this internet thing is so helpful to vent ideas for the first 3-4 clues till we narrow it to 2-3 parks. i like the criminal thing, the scene/action/movie thing, flying is hard to decipher so far.

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REDOG1 - 07:38am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1252 of 22130)

Jaybird, you been out sniffing around yet ? Or is it still to early.

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Swenke - 07:44am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1253 of 22130)

BEETLE BOY

When you see the mysterious black Beetle about, you will than know that you are in the correct park.

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FISHINCJ-SR - 07:50am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1254 of 22130)

Are you ready to dig... the beginning clues just drive me crazy. I want something to get me started now.

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FISHINCJ-SR - 08:05am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1256 of 22130)

I'd say that it is in a park I'd say that it is in St. Paul

So how can anyone figure out the park that it is in yet......

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Matt - 08:27am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1257 of 22130)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Wow. Many, MANY posts.

It appears that everyone's been waiting long enough for the first clue. Lots of speculation, much beyond the probable correlation with the actual hunt (taking into consideration how much the first clue mattered in subsequent hunts); but there has been a great method of picking out the few tidbits that might matter. A lot of the time I'm amused by the amount of people who come flying into the web board after "cracking the clue," posting it with all their confidence... only to find it posted a hundred other times. Oh well. Personally, I'm going to take some more time to make sure that I've got my gear ready, and let the clues mature into something that I can work with before I grab my roto-tiller and dynamite and tear up random parks.

Oh, I also have an entertaining concern. The last post made by "me" was forged. Should any posts with my picture be showing up lacking basic punctuation, containing poor grammar, or anything of the like, please take care to follow up and find out that it's not me. So, should anyone wish to contact me, don't contact the idiot who leaked his (or her, heck, for all I know) dreck all over the place.

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P.C. - 08:30am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1258 of 22130)

Think of a giant slide that they are building and the action could be the slide itself and the kids "flying" down it.

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Matt - 08:33am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1259 of 22130)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Oh, also, (falling victim to his own blade) I was wondering if there were a way to lengthen the amount of messages displayed when reading through them. I didn't care to read more than a few hundred (when there were a thousand sixty or so when I logged on) posts before I gave up and jumped to the end. I know that I'm sacrificing a lot of information, but I'm the impatient type. Now, if I were to be able to read the messages in blocks of 250 or so, I could easily skim past the worthless stock and pick out the real conversationalists. I just hate the repetition of >click< >read...read...read... <[or ignore...ignore...ignore...] >click< >wait< >repeat<

I already tried fooling with my preferences, I can't seem to make anything work the way I'd like. I thought it might perhaps be an administrative option or something. Thankee.

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DAISY - 09:24am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1260 of 22130)

Re: Pig's Eye Park

I'm sure the person who first mentioned Pig's Eye is aware that our governor has in the past done ads for Pig's Eye beer.

Hmmm.....

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Findor - 09:45am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1261 of 22130)

Can anyone clue me in on the Black Beetle thing from 1253 ??

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DAISY - 09:46am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1262 of 22130)

I'm assuming that the poster of that message drives a black Volkswagen and is expressing their confidence in their knowledge of where the medallion is hidden. ;)

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jimt - 09:48am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1263 of 22130)

Think of "failin" it has been years for that park to have seen the medallion. It has a large area to hide it.

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Wright Winger - 09:50am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1264 of 22130)

Me and the Medallion Mobile

does hidden falls have any sledding hills, for something other than the cars that come to it?

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Hollywood - 09:59am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1265 of 22130)

Look Over There! It's the Capital Dome!!!! (Jimmy Stewart - 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington')

Hey there gang!!!

I grew up near Highland Park and have a few observations to add to the mix:

1) The best sledding hills are on the golf course near the water towers on Snelling and Highland Pkwy. They are off limits because of the GC and several blocks from 'huntable' park land - so it sure seems to fit with Clue #2.

2) The police station is on the park premises - huge tie in to 'don't get caught at the scene' criminal element reference.

3) Phalen is certainly due - but apparently doesn't have (great) sledding and just might be permanently off the list because of the near lawsuit in 1983 due to part of the park being in Maplewood (not really a true St. Paul park). Battle Creek is also not entirely St, Paul.

4) Como is way too recent to repeat - Highland was in 1994, kinda soon, but they used Cherokee in 1998 after 1992 - not too much different.

5) Highland is the only big park that could handle the crowds, is due, and fits the clues.

That Little Bast _ _ _ Puck is in Highland Park!!!!!!!!

Good Luck - keep the comments coming.....

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jimt - 10:05am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1266 of 22130)

Wright Winger

hidden falls is a drive in and launch the boat in the river or picnic in the spots provided.

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- 10:11am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1267 of 22130)

Re: Pigs Eye... I mentioned that park last year and I *think* I was told that you can't actually get into it. May have my facts screwy here. But, anyway, it seems from what I remember to bee inaccessible. Or something like that....

Dang! Gettin' old's hard! Can't remember nuttin'!!!

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Q - 10:18am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1268 of 22130)

Hey Hollywood: Not that I think it's in Phalen.......but a point to ponder......used to hang out at phalen many years ago......(former lifetime).....and I can tell you the park ie....where you go through the gates, is indeed in St. Paul.......st. paul police patrol the area.

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Findor - 10:19am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1269 of 22130)

I think everyone is getting suckered on the first clue... What about " Flying " Downhill.. could it be an airport in St. Paul and in a nearby park......any thoughts...or on the wrong track.....

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SLEEPLESS - 10:40am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1271 of 22130)

FINDOR I THINK YOUR RIGHT ABOUT "FLYING". AIRPORT NEARBY. MAYBE IT'S AT HARRIET ISLAND.

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Jbird - 10:44am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1272 of 22130)

Reddog, I'm up and running, but I think it's to soon to dig.Thursday night is the night to start scouting.possiable a coney lunch on Friday.

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- 10:46am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1273 of 22130)

Hay, Q... What's the weather like in San Antone?

Just got off the phone with MJ... She's "down in The Cities" as they say up Nord here, and izz reconoitering every ding-dang park in St. Paul!!! LOL!!! Girl's got it REALLY bad - WORSE THAN ME, if you can believe it!!!

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Q - 11:00am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1274 of 22130)

hey Green!!!

Weather here is great - 70 degrees and sunny

My take on the situation is:

1st clue - Park in St. Paul maybe hidden in something green.

2nd clue - it's not by the "big" slide at como (as soon as I read the clue that's what came to my mind - talked to mom and she said the same thing without me saying what I thought - of course we are related so maybe we have the same warped sense of thinking.)

We think they put it in a large park - large crowd would destroy a small park.

We think Phalen or Highland - we're probably wrong though - have to wait and see.

If only the Vikes would have won...............we could be there....

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- 11:06am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1275 of 22130)

MJ's off today and has called me *5* times on her cell phone as she's driving around St. Paul!!! I'm about to die laughing!!!

You know, even if I never find The Med, I have so much dang fun doing this - but for the sleep deprivation... - and just have a blast!!!

Shure wish Hubs would put you on a plane and send you up here... I regret the Viking lose two-fold!!!

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SueBee - 11:10am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1276 of 22130)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

I've slogged thru posts since clue #2 came out. I'm kind of thinking so far that they are rather generic - stay off golf courses and it's near but not on a sliding hill. I do have to say I kind of like the criminal element in "scene", "caught" etc. Highland would be fine with me since it's close to my Honey's. Easy to warm up between diggin' adventures. Can't wait for #3! What time did the clue post last night? A little early it seems.

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SueBee - 11:13am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1277 of 22130)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

Hey Green! Ok, more thinking... the "action", "scene" movie connection makes sense too. UGH! So much to noodle so early on!

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- 11:13am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1278 of 22130)

Marnin', SueBee!

The clock is off in The Coolers. It posted - the clue - at the correct time.

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- 11:19am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1279 of 22130)

Yea... Last nite I was pooh-poohing the action/scene stuff... Now not so sure... Ittiz starting to make sense!!! AAARRRGGGHHH!!!

Back in '53 (I think it was '53... Am pretty shure it was...), where there were two hunts because the chest was found by the 6th clue, in the first clue o'the second hunt, the last line was something like "It's in the USA," ROFLOL!!!

Rite now, all I'm shure of - "Ittiz in the USA!!!"

Twelve hours... Just twelve hours til the next clue...

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Marshmellow - 11:24am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1280 of 22130)

G Sax.... Just a new idea for flying downhill....a roller coaster gives you a thrill when you fly downhill...along with sleding and skiing. The outdoor attraction does not exclude summer references. The word nil means... zero...duck...and goose egg... The clues are telling us to stay away from golf fairway and green... to stay away from the popular outdoor attractions... Yet it could be in a park with all those qualities. Narrowing down the area in the park before disclosing the street names and the park itself. Just an idea from the one who hit on Juniper...and Longfellow.

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SueBee - 11:32am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1281 of 22130)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

Gotcha, Green. I was looking at some past year's clues and some of them really give away a lot of info early - what it's hidden in, street names etc...I wonder...

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SueBee - 11:35am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1282 of 22130)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

I, too, am wondering if "nil" means anything. It's an obscure enough word that it could be important.

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SueBee - 11:36am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1283 of 22130)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

This having to re-input my name and password every time I post is getting annoying.

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so close... - 11:41am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1284 of 22130)

Here's an idea: a park WITH a golf course but not ON.

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SueBee - 11:43am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1285 of 22130)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

nil = nothing. It's a stretch, but could it mean the medallion is not hidden inside of anything this year, but just bare naked in the snow?

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so close... - 11:45am Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1286 of 22130)

Was it in anything last year?

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Wright Winger - 12:06pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1287 of 22130)

Me and the Medallion Mobile

a nil is also like a large male antalope in india. according to the huge dictionary 15ft. from me.

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so close... - 12:14pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1288 of 22130)

Smells like Como to me. But does anyone think they would have it there umpteen times in so many years? And for God's sake would somebody acknowledge my presence if only to say screw off.

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Lady Lou - 12:14pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1289 of 22130)

Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people....and some of us drive red Toyotas.

661posts are waaaaay too many to slog....so if I am being redundant, I aplolgize.....

Could the reference to sliding be skiing, as in ski jump, as in Battle Creek??

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Brass Monkey - 12:14pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1290 of 22130)

What does anyone think about Marshmellow's idea of a roller coaster besides a sliding hill,and skiing?

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Lady Lou - 12:15pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1291 of 22130)

Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people....and some of us drive red Toyotas.

Hi so Close......you could be right...too often in the same spot.

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Lady Lou - 12:16pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1292 of 22130)

Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people....and some of us drive red Toyotas.

Isn't there a sma;ll kiddy roller coaster at Como?

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Wright Winger - 12:20pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1294 of 22130)

Me and the Medallion Mobile

no como, come in 97,

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jimt - 12:20pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1295 of 22130)

So Close

It was in an Old Navy sock last year and in Como the small ski hill and kiddie roller coaster make sense.

let me know what you think

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Wright Winger - 12:23pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1296 of 22130)

Me and the Medallion Mobile

it was not in como last year. it was in an old navy sock, but in cherokee, just as i was saying last year. the year before that it was at como.

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Treasure Digger - 12:23pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1297 of 22130)

Meez thinks tonight's clue will be the changer of ideas. But---we've knocked out a lot of the other parks and brought it down to 5 or less. I'll chat with everyone later. Lunch is over.

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dannyk7 - 12:24pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1298 of 22130)

I keep thinking about the reference to waste and time in the last sentence of the 2nd clue. will it be by, in, or under something that has to do with waste? Interested in your thoughts.

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so close... - 12:25pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1299 of 22130)

Thank you, LadyLou. jimt. attraction winning action fun park is spot golf course not nil=antalope I have an ambiguous feeling.

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Findor - 12:25pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1300 of 22130)

I think it is on a softball field... The reasons.. clue 1 OUTdone clue 2 OUTdoor clue 3 OUTsomething.... I think the clues are saying its near all this stuff... flying downhill towards home plate......but you might get thrown out... going to home plate (wont get caught in clue 1 ) .. but you chances are nil if you dont try .... otherwise you will not win... any thoughts or am I in left field....

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so close... - 12:26pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1301 of 22130)

Wright Winger. It was in Como two years in a row once (I think).

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Treasure Digger - 12:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1302 of 22130)

No, the medallion has never been at the same place twice in a row. Check the previous locations on the web site "CoolerCrew".

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so close... - 12:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1303 of 22130)

Hey jimt. see #1299

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Wright Winger - 12:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1304 of 22130)

Me and the Medallion Mobile

never in como twice in a row. not any park twice in a row. and como was 97, not 98

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DAISY - 12:33pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1305 of 22130)

Softball.... not a bad thought. Highland has several fields across from one of the better sledding locations.

But wasn't it very close to a backstop when it was at Como in 97? That doesn't mean it couldn't be near a baseball/softball field again, but I'm suspicious of that.

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so close... - 12:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1306 of 22130)

dannyk7. I had a similar thought.

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so close... - 12:38pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1307 of 22130)

Talk to you all at 11:30.

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human 24 - 12:49pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1308 of 22130)

What is the location at Como of the 150 ft slide?

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AllieGo - 12:55pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1309 of 22130)

Just finished going through the board..lots of posts. Think I'll pick a few names to jump to...might help make it faster. Dave's thinking the same way I am...It's looking like Como, but it was only there 2 years ago. Is there actually a sliding hill at Highland? There's no place to park there.

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SueBee - 01:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1310 of 22130)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

the sliding hills at Highland are near the water towers and on the golf course.

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SueBee - 01:10pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1311 of 22130)

Heeere pucky, pucky, pucky!!!

I'm anxious for tonight's clue!

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Brass Monkey - 01:11pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1312 of 22130)

There was no place to park at Highland when it was there last time either....but they still hid it there. I think it is at Como.. The person who does this treasure hunt knows we would question Como so close togather.... HUMMM .... It would throw us all off... Great place to hide it! Last time it was at Como their were alot of Carnival activities going on then also....

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G. Sax - 01:16pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1313 of 22130)

www.coolercrew.com

I'm loathe to cast my thoughts this early in the game, but as the hunt approached my every fiber led me to believe that it would be at Phalen this year. I can just barely fit the golf course and sledding clues into this park, but it stays on my mind because of its ability to hold the extra diggers looking for the larger-than-usual bounty and, man, is it ever way overdue. Aside from the quick hunt of '95, East Siders have had to trek across town (or at least downtown) for every hunt since '83. It's their turn to walk to the dig site. Two pennies.

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Tom Kor - 01:18pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1314 of 22130)

Does anyone think maybe it could be at Phalen Park?

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Ian - 01:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1315 of 22130)

"gettin' ready"

Greg: Check out that guy's button site...awesome

BUTTONS from the past

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Chris P - 01:29pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1316 of 22130)

"I still haven't found what I'm looking for"

Hey everyone:

For what it's worth ($.02), it seems they have only made references to stay away from golf courses, etc. when the Med is actually at a park with a golf course, such as Como 2 years ago. How likely is it that they could return to Como again? Has is been done before?

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G. Sax - 01:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1317 of 22130)

www.coolercrew.com

Ian: I've already e-mailed Ronald Young about the button site. We'll see what he's willing to do with us at coolercrew.com.

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Tom Kor - 01:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1318 of 22130)

Does anyone think it could be in Keller Park or not just looking for some info.

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John F. Nelson - 01:35pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1319 of 22130)

Out of curiosity, what about Hidden Falls Park? It was hidden

there back in 1993. Part of the clue said follow this advice and

you won't be caught. Well, in the game of hide and go seek,

if you are not caught or found, then you are hidden that is

why it could be at Hidden Falls Park

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The Map Master - 01:37pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1320 of 22130)

Hide It and They Will Dig

Keller Park is part of Maplewood. Maplewood will not let them hide it there because of damaged property in the past.

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human 24 - 01:37pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1321 of 22130)

It's at Como, away from the Giant Snow Slide. I do not know where the snow slide is. Maybe in the area where the medallion was 2 yrs ago?

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K G - 01:37pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1322 of 22130)

NOTE: I have gained access to a reliable source via the St. Paul Pioneer Press!!!! He has informed me that the Medallion is not located at Como, Phalen, nor Highland parks. This individual has been reliable in the past, so I insist everyone considers this before they begin their search.

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Ian - 01:37pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1323 of 22130)

"gettin' ready"

Very good work, Greg Your time is much appreciated.

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jack groden - 01:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1324 of 22130)

with all are talk with out newly elected governor - wouldn't one think to look upon the capital mall for a chance to beat our governor - "chances of winning are NIL" - action = jesse

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The Map Master - 01:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1325 of 22130)

Hide It and They Will Dig

The Giant Snow Slide at Como is in the vicinity of where the medallion was found in 97. There is a map of Como with the locations of the various winter carnival activities on the winter carnival web page.

www.winter-carnival.com

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Hollywood - 01:41pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1326 of 22130)

Look Over There! It's the Capital Dome!!!! (Jimmy Stewart - 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington')

It's clearly not at Keller - 1st clue says St. Paul Park.....

Also reviewed last 30 years clues - only golf course references are when the puck was hidden at a park with a GC - clearly Phalen, Highland or Como with my likelihood estimate (and my reputation as an actuary on the line) being:

Highland: 65%

Phalen: 30%

Como:5%

These estimates based on reasoning in my earlier post #1265....

Whadda ya think???

Hollywood

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human 24 - 01:48pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1327 of 22130)

Thankyou thankyou thankyou, MAPMASTER!

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BradB - 01:51pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1328 of 22130)

Hollywood--

I like your reasoning. I'm wondering how you calculated the percentages. Would you disclose your formula?

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Findor - 01:52pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1329 of 22130)

Brad it is a simple tallie equation divid by the sum.....something called guesstamation mathematics..... am interest in the person with the reliable source ?? Anyone believe him...???

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Ian - 01:59pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1330 of 22130)

"gettin' ready"

last year there were lots of "reliable sources"

quite the oddsmaker, Hollywood

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MJ - 02:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1331 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Highland Park IS where ittiz at!!!!

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Ian - 02:03pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1332 of 22130)

"gettin' ready"

Phalen

Highland

Como

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gorshgo - 02:03pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1333 of 22130)

it is como

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MJ - 02:06pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1334 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Thought Como first, but have been driving all morn/aft, me thinks ittiz for sure Highland!!! Hi Ian!!!

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MJ - 02:06pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1335 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Clue #3 WILL give a closer answer!!! Stay tuned!

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Ian - 02:07pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1336 of 22130)

"gettin' ready"

How's the cell battery, MJ ??

One more work day, then I'm off for the duration of the hunt....

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Darryl Zero - 02:11pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1337 of 22130)

Well folks, by the the recent clues I would say Phalen park would be the best bet at this point regardless of what the reliable source guy says. What do ya think?

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MJ - 02:14pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1338 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

I don't believe in reliable sources. They're very unreliable. Besides there are only 2 people at PP that know anything about it. One knows the clues, the 2nd is a backup to the clue location in case something happens to person #1. Therefore, only 1 actually knows the clues.

Cell battery just fine Ian. Actually have it plugged-in, in my van so we have no dead battery worries. I'm jumping out of my Sorels!!!!

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Ian - 02:17pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1339 of 22130)

"gettin' ready"

Please don't

SHOUT !

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SNAKE - 02:19pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1340 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

TO SOON TO TELL BUT I THINK ITS AT HIGHLAND

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SNAKE - 02:21pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1341 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

ANYONE TALKED TO WINNEBAGO BILL

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SNAKE - 02:26pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1342 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

TO EARLY TO TELL

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mechelle szenay - 02:29pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1343 of 22130)

Hello, I am Greg Sax's wife. This is my first time here. I have read the clues, and can't believe that after only two people are so sure to its location. It is fun reading everyones messages. I think I'll waite for more clues before I venture a quess.

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Hollywood - 02:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1344 of 22130)

Look Over There! It's the Capital Dome!!!! (Jimmy Stewart - 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington')

Hi Mechelle - welcome!!!!

Howdy Ian, good to hear from you and hope that you made at least one CBY excursion......

I'll be teaching a session at Paul Allen's (KFAN) seminar twice in Feb, March and April to help prepare for the live meet - let me know if you want to check it out.....

Can't wait for more clues to be able to adjust those likelihood estimators up higher!....

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the two faced bandit - 02:37pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1345 of 22130)

THE OFFICIAL MEDALLION HUNTER OF THE NEW MILLENIUM

Hay Ian and others!! I was Pocket last year, but underwent a name change due to circumstances I wish wouldn't have happened.....

I think HP is the place so far.

But ittiz so big! Oh well, ya gotta work hard for ten Gs!

By the way, any appearances from Big Joe Medallion yet?

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Ian - 02:41pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1346 of 22130)

"gettin' ready"

No obvious posts from Joe. This is a new year, 2 Face. Good luck to you.

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the two faced bandit - 02:47pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1347 of 22130)

THE OFFICIAL MEDALLION HUNTER OF THE NEW MILLENIUM

The hunt has come at a rather *bad* time 4 me this year. I have finals Wed. and Thurs! Hope nobody finds it by then. What's the earliest the med has ever been found?

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Ronald Young - 02:48pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1348 of 22130)

Hail Boreas

Check out my collection of Winter Carnival Buttons

I've got all the buttons ecept 1916 on the Web

It's a powerpoint slideshow, so use the navigational buttons on the side to move to the first,next, previous slides

www.ties.k12.mn.us/~young/buttons

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Hail Boreas

Check out my collection of Winter Carnival Buttons on the Web

It's a Powerpoint Slideshow, so use the navigational buttons on the side of the screen to move to the first slide or next/previous slides

www.ties.k12.mn.us/~young/buttons

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The Map Master - 02:53pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1350 of 22130)

Hide It and They Will Dig

Great Collection RY. I've got it bookmarked for future reference.

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Allison Wonderland - 03:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1351 of 22130)

Dreams are the roadmap to life; without them we are lost

I believe it's at Phalen this year and I say this with some (albeit stretched) reasoning. First of all, it hasn't been there in a while, so it wins just my plain ol' gut reaction. But also consider this: The first line of the second part of Clue #1 says, "A park is the spot, but a golf course is not." I believe this indicates a park with an associated golf course, yet there is some obvious reason to eliminate the golf course as a possibility. Phalen's golf course is in Maplewood, not St. Paul, so that fits. Then line two says, "So please don't disturb a fairway or green." Is this merely a poetic plea not to destroy a golf course they've already told us to avoid, or a cleverly worded (and hidden) clue. The fact is that there is a Fairway, Maryland and a Green, Idaho. Perhaps not coincidentally, the St. Paul section of Phalen Park is bordered on the north and south by Idaho and Maryland Avenues. Perhaps not "disturbing" them implies not crossing them and limiting your search between those two streets. Maybe?

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SNAKE - 03:23pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1352 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

NEED MORE CLUES

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Crazy Hunta' - 03:25pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1353 of 22130)

I think Allison might be right

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Allison Wonderland - 03:25pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1354 of 22130)

Dreams are the roadmap to life; without them we are lost

As far as clue #2 goes, I honestly believe this is the same as last year's "Rosebud" clue which basically said nothing other than that there was sledding nearby. This does little more than eliminate the small, flat parks (and I was so hoping for Swede Hallow Park), but I think they have no interest in giving too many specific clues too early as they have rarely done so in the past.

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Crazy Hunta' - 03:29pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1355 of 22130)

I there any park that has a gun store or anything around it?

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jimt - 03:46pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1356 of 22130)

Crazy Hunta'

What is with the gun store?

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Crazy Hunta' - 03:49pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1357 of 22130)

I don't know, I just saw in the clue it said something about a "Poular outdoor activity" and the last word was "action" and that is a part of a gun, I just can't find anything else in the clue

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jimt - 03:55pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1358 of 22130)

Crazy Hunta'

Don't go to far into it, it is way to early to be reading deeply into these two clues.

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Crazy Hunta' - 03:57pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1359 of 22130)

know

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Step - 04:21pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1360 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Allison--what do you mean by fairway,maryland and green,idaho???

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Treasure Digger - 04:21pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1361 of 22130)

Allison Wonderland, where do you get Fairway, Maryland and Green, Idaho? There are no streets named Fairway or Green around by Phalen. Also, looked up the states of Maryland and Idaho and there are not cities named Fairway and Green. Please elaborate. If you're right,"Damn, you're good!!!" Pardon my French.

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MJ - 04:22pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1362 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Okay, okay . . . . .

Here's an idea from a fellow "hunter" . . . . . .

Just a thought. Take "scene" from clue #1, and add it to "action" from clue #2, and you have something related to film/arts.

This hunter has said that parts of Grumpy(ier) Old Men was filmed near/at Phalen Park!!!!!

Something to think about!!!!!!

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Treasure Digger - 04:24pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1363 of 22130)

I thought it was filmed out in Lake Minnetonka.

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Step - 04:24pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1364 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

what do you people think about Battle Creek---even though phalen sounds good.

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Step - 04:25pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1365 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

treasure digger---nope. right by lake phalen!!

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MJ - 04:25pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1366 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Digger, Grumpy(ier) Old Men was filmed throughout Minnesota!!! Stillwater, Center City, Wabasha, Phalen Area! Just to name a few!

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Treasure Digger - 04:26pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1367 of 22130)

Step, why Battle Creek.

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MJ - 04:26pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1368 of 22130)

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I just love my fellow Hunter!!!!!!!

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Step - 04:27pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1369 of 22130)

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Well, just bacause of the ski jump...."flying downhill"????

I know, it's probably not right.

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Treasure Digger - 04:27pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1370 of 22130)

Who's your fellow hunter?

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Step - 04:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1371 of 22130)

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MJ--are you thinking Phalen????

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Treasure Digger - 04:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1372 of 22130)

There's no golf course by Battle Creek.

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MJ - 04:29pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1373 of 22130)

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The bestest guy I know, in the WORLD!!!! And a VIKING NUT!!!

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Step - 04:29pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1374 of 22130)

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I know, but do you really think they would limit the search to 3 parks on the first clue?? Prob not.

Maybe there is no course at all?

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MJ - 04:30pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1375 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Yes, I'm now convinced ittiz at Phalen. I just threw a copy of the clues in front of my fellow hunter, and he's the one that threw Action and Scene together!!!!

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Treasure Digger - 04:30pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1376 of 22130)

I doubt that. They like teasing us hunters by not telling us which one exactly but limiting the hunt to just a few.

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Step - 04:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1377 of 22130)

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MJ---where would "flying downhill" come into play---there is no skiing or sledding at phalen....

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MJ - 04:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1378 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

The only thing I'm wondering about, Phalen doesn't have any sliding hills does it? Do kids slide on hills on the golf course???

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Step - 04:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1379 of 22130)

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But with the prize at ten grand...kinda fishy to me.....

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Treasure Digger - 04:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1380 of 22130)

MJ, what about the Ford Pkwy theory. "Won't be caught" and "wrong scene" being the Ford Theatre where Lincoln was killed. That's why people are thinking Highland.

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Muffin - 04:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1381 of 22130)

'Shame on you, Repoman, and Hawkeye and Martin. And shame on you, Muffin, Ms. Brown and Tia.'

I had the same thought about Grumpy Old Men, which was filmed on Hyacinth Street right by Phalen. The only street name over there which refers to green is Ivy. Otherwise there is Orange, Hawthorne, and Wheelock, which all run east west. North-south there is Cypress, Earl, Frank, Mendota, and even Arcade (Hwy 61).

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Step - 04:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1382 of 22130)

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MJ--there really are no good hills at the park or the course....

maybe flying downhill means something else....

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MJ - 04:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1383 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Mirror Step. That's the one thing I can't figure out for sure. Perhaps there's something close by? Do the kids slide down the hills towards the lake? I'm not very far from Phalen right now, and am thinking of driving by. Does anyone have any ideas???

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Muffin - 04:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1384 of 22130)

'Shame on you, Repoman, and Hawkeye and Martin. And shame on you, Muffin, Ms. Brown and Tia.'

Actually, there is a hill off of Hwy 61 at Phalen which many people use to slide down.

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MJ - 04:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1386 of 22130)

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Green is the one who thought Ford, and I felt she had a good idea, however, WHEELOCK sounds familiar too. But the scene, and action cannot be mistaken.

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Step - 04:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1387 of 22130)

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Treasure Digger--Also, don't get caught and wrong scene maybe something different...

there is a police station on the grounds of highland park....

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Treasure Digger - 04:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1388 of 22130)

I've got to check out for a short while. I'll be back around 5 PM.

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Rojo Econ - 04:35pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1389 of 22130)

What about the carnival theme, "No time for cold feet"? Does this indicate anything to do with hockey rinks like the one's at Como?

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Step - 04:35pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1390 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

MJ--I live right by Phalen so ask me if u have any questions....

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Swenke - 04:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1391 of 22130)

BEETLE BOY

Are people going to be out diggin tonight or just driven around?

I think I will do both! I will break out my Park books and dive into this mysterious cold world for the next two weeks.

I here it is going to be rainy this week! this should only stand to weed out the the non committed persons.

Keep your eye open for the black Beetle

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MJ - 04:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1392 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Gotta run for now. Will scope things out and report back!!!

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Treasure Digger - 04:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1393 of 22130)

That just adds to the theory of not being caught by having the police station close by - stay off the fairway and greens - and Ford Pkwy. I thought of Highland right away with the golf course and Ford Pkwy. being so close.

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jimt - 04:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1394 of 22130)

Maybe they are swinging the look to a certain area of town and then after clue 8 or 9 the scene has a totally new look when they get to narrowing down the search.

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MJ - 04:37pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1395 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Step, caught your message before I logged out. Will bee back in a while. Need to catch supper, (my dinner buyer just arrived) and will take a drive by Phalen with my fellow hunter too. Will log in later!!

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Step - 04:38pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1396 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

MJ--I'll see ya!!!

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Allison Wonderland - 04:38pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1397 of 22130)

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Sorry, but I was gone for a while. For those who inquired, there is a city called Fairway in Maryland and a city called Green in Idaho, at least according to the map CD I was using. Thus not disturbing the fairway or green may mean staying between Idaho and Maryland, roughly the borders of the St. Paul side of Phalen.

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Muffin - 04:40pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1398 of 22130)

'Shame on you, Repoman, and Hawkeye and Martin. And shame on you, Muffin, Ms. Brown and Tia.'

The hill that people slide down empties down by Hwy 61. I also live approx 6 blocks from Phalen, so I know the area well.

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Step - 04:40pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1399 of 22130)

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Great idea allison---that makes one think VERY hard...hmmmmmm

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Step - 04:41pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1400 of 22130)

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Allison--MJ made a great point also....

the words "scene" and "action" could refer to grumpy old men which was filmed by phalen....

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DAISY - 04:44pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1401 of 22130)

Clue 2 could also easily mean that we are to stay away from parks with sledding hills, again making Phalen more likely.

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Step - 04:45pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1402 of 22130)

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Daisy--Right. I really think it's phalen this year

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Wright Winger - 04:46pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1403 of 22130)

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ok, me and my friend figure hidden falls can stretch the clues better than any other park. i still like the word "scene" and who has more scenic overlooks then hidden falls. and theirs alot more too. but im busy and will post em later.

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Allison Wonderland - 04:49pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1404 of 22130)

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I have a question about Phalen if anyone is more familiar with it than I. Are the sliding hills (reportedly near 61 according to an earlier post) on the Maplewood side or St. Paul side? If they're on the Maplewood side, then I think you can make another argument for Phalen that goes like this: Clue #1 Part 1 "Look only on public ground in St. Paul." i.e. "Stay out of Maplewood!" Clue #1, Part 2 says there is a golf course, but don't go there. i.e. "Stay out of Maplewood!" (where the golf course is). Clue #2 implies a place for sledding, but again says not to look there. If this sledding area is on the Maplewood side, again we can read into this clue, "Stay out of Maplewood!". I read earlier that Maplewood threatened to sue if they hid it there again. Could they be any clearer (within the restraint of using coded language) that we should stay out of Maplewood while we search Phalen?

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HOLLY ANDERSON - 04:51pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1405 of 22130)

sorry everyone but the treasure has already been found the person is just wiating to buy a button

THIS NOT A JOKE AND IT WAS NOT FOUND AT PHALEN

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Allison Wonderland - 04:58pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1406 of 22130)

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In the past, even knowing almost exactly where the treasure is hidden, it typically takes 50 people combing a relatively small area for hours before someone comes across the medallion. To me, it seems the odds of someone finding it already are about as good as them hitting the lottery. Its not impossible, but certainly not likely. So I'll wait for an official announcement before I stop playing.

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storm - 04:58pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1407 of 22130)

Geez Hollywood, just when I eliminate Highland you make some very strong points.

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Step - 05:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1408 of 22130)

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what points about highland?

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Muffin - 05:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1409 of 22130)

'Shame on you, Repoman, and Hawkeye and Martin. And shame on you, Muffin, Ms. Brown and Tia.'

The only problem with Holly's thoughts is that if the medallion were found, then obviously they would know what day it was found. Anyone who then bought a button and registered it would have a postmark that was later than when the medallion was found. They would not get the bonus money, and I wonder just how the PP would view their holding onto it to do so.

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Step - 05:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1410 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Allison--you still in here?

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Medallionhound - 05:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1411 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

Where is the ski jump at Battle? There is no rule that says there has to be a golf course on or near the park it is hidden in even though history might lead us to think so.

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Duff - 05:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1412 of 22130)

You know every year people say that it has been found daily and I fail to see the humor in that. I'd bet my house that it hasn't been found yet.

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Muffin - 05:02pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1413 of 22130)

'Shame on you, Repoman, and Hawkeye and Martin. And shame on you, Muffin, Ms. Brown and Tia.'

Me too, Duff. Anyone who found the medallion only after two clues would be very suspect.

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Step - 05:02pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1414 of 22130)

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Duff--I agree

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Wright Winger - 05:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1415 of 22130)

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ok hidden falls. its due. flying down, well theirs airplane balls on the wires. theirs the falls. attraction, ford dam and plant. scenic over looks for scenes. nil means egg in french. and you hide eggs, so hidden falls. zooming down, well the water, or have youever driven down the big hill to it? its death if iced over. and its not going to be at phalen for they were almost sued (or atleast according to legend)

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Medallionhound - 05:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1416 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

All the registration requires is that it is post marked no later that 1/28.

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storm - 05:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1417 of 22130)

For updates on whether the medallion has been found, call (651) 228-5464.

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jimt - 05:05pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1419 of 22130)

Duff I ditto what Step said.

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I'm still here Step, though I got knocked off the internet for a moment.

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Duff - 05:06pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1421 of 22130)

I'll have to research that Maryland and Idaho lead. If that is true looks like some solid evidence toward Phalen. Not to mention it is a huge park and for $10,000 smackers I wouldn't be suprised to see them extend the hunt. I don't think they will be specific this early though.

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Wright Winger - 05:07pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1422 of 22130)

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oh and action can be the river.

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Step - 05:08pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1423 of 22130)

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Allison--the sledding hiss IS in maplewood, but it is a part of Keller park, not phalen....

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Step - 05:08pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1424 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

hill i mean....

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Step - 05:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1425 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

what would the golf course reference have to do with hidden falls??

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Allison Wonderland - 05:11pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1426 of 22130)

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Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't the golf course technically part of Keller too? Still, I think its fits in with the idea that they're near, but not near enough for anyone to go trekking into Maplewood to look for the Medallion.

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Medallionhound - 05:11pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1427 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

Step, read the 2nd part of post #1411.

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Step - 05:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1428 of 22130)

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Allison--I agree w/ you but Keller has it's own course...I think phalen is phalen...

I want to brainstorm and try to think of some ideas that steer clear of sledding and shiing...

what else could "flying downhill" mean????

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Wright Winger - 05:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1429 of 22130)

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no golf course, cuz why narrow it down to 3 parks in clue #1? and also "green" is just to ryme with scene, for the numurious scenic overlooks

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Wright Winger - 05:14pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1430 of 22130)

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flying down hill can refur the hill you must drive down to reach hidden falls. also the river with the ford dam. maybe airplanes, and the airport is near by.

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Step - 05:15pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1431 of 22130)

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Winger--is HF a small park or large??

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Step - 05:16pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1433 of 22130)

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there is heavy air traffic over highland, too...

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Pat Pfundstein - 05:16pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1434 of 22130)

At least I'm housebroken

Yea, sure Holly. I'm sure it was Joe Medallion that found it too. That would make the 83rd time in the last two years that he found it. Get real.

Speaking of getting real....

The clues so far have been as vague as you would expect. No. 1 says it is in St. Paul, but not on a golf course. (Note: the correct park does not need to include a golf course, it merely preempts damaging searches.) The second clue indicates it is near but not in a skiing/sliding area.

Using these crumbs of fact, and extrapolating with the supercomputer that is my mind, it will come as no surprise to the cooler crew that I have fathomed the presence of the medallion at Newell Park in a 10 sq. yd. area just to the north of the tow rope area. My dog, the Cake Girl and I plan on uncovering it tonight and look forward to hosting the post-Hunt bash on 2/7.

I hope Green brings a little food this year; last year she came empty handed, and we had to scrape up a few bits of food for her. And the rest of us starved.

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New Daddy - 05:17pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1435 of 22130)

I think they gave us a lot of information in clue 1. a. It's in St. Paul. b. It's in a park. c. It's not on a golf course. This is more info then given in most clues. I don't think we can read any more into that clue.. Unless Green is a refrence to the queen of the water cooler. I like the action/sceen - grumpy old men idea. Could "popular outdoor attraction" refer to the winter carnival events at Como

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Wright Winger - 05:18pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1436 of 22130)

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hidden falls is a big park! not as big as others but big. south gate is closed. pay no attention to it. northgate is up open and running. excactly how much experiance do you people have at this?

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Step - 05:18pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1437 of 22130)

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where's newell park dude?

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- 05:19pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1438 of 22130)

PatP!!! Your humor has been sorely missed!!!

WELCOME BOCK!!!

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Allison Wonderland - 05:19pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1439 of 22130)

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"Flying downhill" could mean an airplane's descent, but that's not much of a thrill. It could also be something like hangliding, but I think you'd be hardpressed to tie that into anything. It seems to me that in the past, the first few clues give just a general idea of some things nearby and at best one specific clue. I'd be very surprised actually if downhill thrill was anything other than sledding/skiing.

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Step - 05:20pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1440 of 22130)

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Winger--I have a great idea--be back in a little bit

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Ian - 05:23pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1442 of 22130)

"gettin' ready"

hey Pat--Welcome back

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New Daddy - 05:23pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1443 of 22130)

Could flying downhill be an anagram for a street name or something else?? I think this may be a curve ball. I don't think they would give us sledding hill clues 2 years in a row unless it was to throw some people off.

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Wright Winger - 05:25pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1444 of 22130)

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yea green, and ian are here.

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Wright Winger - 05:26pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1445 of 22130)

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good point ND

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Treasure Digger - 05:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1446 of 22130)

Hey, Guys, I'm back. I think the overview of everything has been discussed again and again. We all agree to a park in St. Paul, near a golf course (but not on the golf course), some reference to a movie/film/theatre, sledding/skiing, and possibly airplanes fyling close by. Those are tremendous first 2 clues I've ever read from the past clues. Do you agree?

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Pat Pfundstein - 05:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1447 of 22130)

At least I'm housebroken

Step, don't take anything I say about Newell Park too seriously, it is an old (and Lame) joke.

Gee, last year my first post was #13 and this year it is 1434. The decaying reactions of my aging form!

I'd bet the prize will be in a park with sliding, but just as with the golf course clue, the paper is trying to prevent damage to a part of the park. Last year the sliding area was demolished at Cherokee in the final grasshopper frenzy. There must have been tons of bummed out kids.

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Allison Wonderland - 05:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1448 of 22130)

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The one thing about this year's clues that I find unusual, is instead of saying where the medallion is, they seem to be putting undue effort into saying where it is NOT. Does anyone have another explanation for this other than my theory that they want us to stay out of the Maplewood side of Phalen?

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New Daddy - 05:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1449 of 22130)

I think hidden falls is overdue also. Flying and the airport are a good connection. I think Flying is a key word here, and not related to sledding, I hope tonights clue sheds some light . I'll be out most of the day tom. looking.

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jimt - 05:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1450 of 22130)

Hidden Falls is locked at the opening by the Ford plant and the other opening has NO driving access only a walking path to that other part of the park. It was in that park in 1993

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Wright Winger - 05:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1451 of 22130)

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well im still not completly sold about with a golf course. why narrow it down to 3 parks right away? also, what about scenes, refering to scenic overlooks?

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New Daddy - 05:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1452 of 22130)

I like your Idea off the clues saying stay out of maplewood and Phalen is still tops on my list.

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Treasure Digger - 05:35pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1453 of 22130)

Where's the golf course by Hidden Falls? I think there should be one close by or why would Mom put it in the first clue.

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Wright Winger - 05:35pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1454 of 22130)

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jimt, i was their an hour ago. it is not closed. they dont clost the main part of hidden falls in the winter. go to the northgate, by ford parkway and missippi drive.its the north gate

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Treasure Digger - 05:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1455 of 22130)

Medallionhound, what do you think of Hidden Falls?

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Allison Wonderland - 05:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1456 of 22130)

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I also have to say I don't agree with the film angle. "Action" and "Scene" are in two different clues so the connection is strained to begin with. And even if they were meant to go together, so many things have been filmed here, from "The Shining" to "Grumpy Old Men" to "A Simple Plan", how could the writer of the clues have possibly hoped to pinpoint anything with such a reference?

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Wright Winger - 05:37pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1457 of 22130)

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well their is no course i know of my hidden falls, except a "concourse" see, im not completly sold about "golf" i think "no golf"

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Wright Winger - 05:37pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1458 of 22130)

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oh everyone know nil means egg in french. and it means male antalope, and it means zero. can anyone due stuff with that?

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jimt - 05:38pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1459 of 22130)

Wright Winger

Sorry my mistake I'll be more careful with info in the future.

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Treasure Digger - 05:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1460 of 22130)

Is anyone else having trouble posting?

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Allison Wonderland - 05:42pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1461 of 22130)

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Also, how can anyone say Hidden Falls is due when Phalen, for a park of its size is way overdue? As for the why narrow it down to 3 parks question, why not? It will keep small parks from getting damaged. And as far as I can tell, they haven't given us any idea of where in the park to look. It would take days to comb over all of Phalen or Como or Highland, so its not particularly narrowed down.

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steve allen - 05:43pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1462 of 22130)

flying downhill; can you see the ski jump from battle creek. dont read to far into the first clues.

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Treasure Digger - 05:45pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1463 of 22130)

Let's toss in Como again. Someone said there's a kid roller coaster there. That would take care of "flying downhill" and don't "get to close to the action" could possibly mean stay away from the bears or animals at the zoo which is an outside attraction.

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Treasure Digger - 05:46pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1464 of 22130)

Como also has a golf course close by. There's also going to be the big slidding ramp there for the carnival.

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Wright Winger - 05:46pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1465 of 22130)

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well with a 10,000 jackpot, their going to throw you off as long as possible. so the paper can make as much money as possible. also legend has it phalen wont have it again due to 1/3 or more is in maplewood. maplewood hates the treasure, i should know. i live hear. theirs a reason it hasnt been here since 83. its that, or their purposely saving it for this aniversary witch i dont buy. they tend to use only about 6 parks now. unless they add mears. but it dont quite fit. thats why i like hidden falls. it fits the clues enough to work, but not enough to throw people off, witch is comon to the first clues. remeber last year? i feel like the only person to never dig in mounds, and only in cherokee.

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Duff - 05:47pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1466 of 22130)

I'd have to agree with Allisson, and it would take months to find it if this is all we knew. Huge park, much overdue. Don't forget about the Ice Castle there, that was a popular outdoor attraction

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Treasure Digger - 05:48pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1467 of 22130)

Is there going to be an Ice Castle there this year?

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Wright Winger - 05:48pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1468 of 22130)

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yes como has a kiddi coaster. ive had upset stomach from it. (shh dont tell anyone) its just everyear, people say como. and it was just their. i like newell. hidden, and highland.

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Wright Winger - 05:48pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1469 of 22130)

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yes como has a kiddi coaster. ive had upset stomach from it. (shh dont tell anyone) its just everyear, people say como. and it was just their. i like newell. hidden, and highland. but thats just me.

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Wright Winger - 05:48pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1470 of 22130)

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otherwise como fits well.

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Allison Wonderland - 05:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1471 of 22130)

Dreams are the roadmap to life; without them we are lost

Another question is how much can you read into the first clues? This always reminds me of the last time it was in Battle Creek Park and the first letter of each clue spelled out B-A-T-T-L-E-C-R-E-E-K-P-A-R-K. If one looks closely enough there may be very good information in the early clues. Last year there was not, but I think its also a function of how big the park is. They make a small park hard to pinpoint. In a large park they give it away early (remember Cuomo without you?) and then the question becomes where in the park? The golf course parks are all large, so they may very well give it away early.

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steve allen - 05:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1472 of 22130)

05:55pm JAN 25 CAN YOU SEE THE SKI JUMP FROM BATTLE CREEK PARK

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Treasure Digger - 05:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1473 of 22130)

So then, does Como fit the part of scene or film, etc.?

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Wright Winger - 05:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1474 of 22130)

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sorry no castle this year. their discussion for next year, if they can keep from aprouching back ruptcy. cuz they lost lots in 92

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Treasure Digger - 05:52pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1475 of 22130)

I've got to go for now. Dinner is calling me. I'll noddle for a while and come back maybe with something new.

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Wright Winger - 05:52pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1476 of 22130)

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como is not far from enegery park. theirs the energy park movie studios. and can you see a ski jump from battlecreek? their used to be one their back in the day i heard.

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Step - 05:53pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1477 of 22130)

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It was just at como two years ago!!!

There is a ski jump at battle creek.....

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Duff - 05:54pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1478 of 22130)

Yes you can see the Ski Jump from some parts of Battle Creek. The Ski Jump itself is in Maplewood so maybe they are again saying to stay out of Maplewood.

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Wright Winger - 05:55pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1479 of 22130)

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dont beleave thiers a ski jump their now. in the past thier was. and i just heard you can see the exsisting ski jump outside of st.paul from battelcreek.

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Duff - 05:55pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1480 of 22130)

There are also some great sliding hills in the St. Paul side of Battle Creek. How good are the sliding hill along 61 in Phalen?

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Step - 05:55pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1481 of 22130)

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The ski jump is nowhere near maplewood!!!

Unless you are thinking of a different one than i am....

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Wright Winger - 05:56pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1482 of 22130)

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hey i like the part about the ski jump

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Duff - 05:57pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1483 of 22130)

Drove by the Jump today and scoped out Battle Creek, havn't made it to Phalen yet. probably tomorrow By the way the jump is still there and visible

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Wright Winger - 05:57pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1484 of 22130)

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the sled hills by 61 and phalen, and loving called "the nipple ripper" their hard, and bumpy, but speed is ok. but i dont think its their.

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Wright Winger - 05:57pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1485 of 22130)

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where is their a jump in maplewood?

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Allison Wonderland - 05:57pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1486 of 22130)

Dreams are the roadmap to life; without them we are lost

If they hid the medallion on the St. Paul side of Phalen, would Maplewood have any grounds to complain since it wasn't on Maplewood property? I don't think you can eliminate Phalen, though its understandable that they wouldn't use it as much as other parks. But why continue to alienate the east-siders?

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ShovelMaster - 05:58pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1487 of 22130)

1998's "Shovel Boy"

Hello there. It is I the real ShovelBoy from last year, but since someone took that handle already this year, I am forced to be the shovel master. Now, that aside. I would have to agree to not look to into the early clues. But at this point I am going with Como too. The clues point out several things to me, if I may be so bold as to contradict my above statement about early clues. Flying~could also mean the kids ride that has the little airplanes. In clue 1 there is the bit about don't disturb, this is something often found on animal cages like the ones in the zoo. The words: scene, action, and attraction occur systematically through both clues 1 and 2, these words can be associated with a movie or a play~like the plays held at the Ampitheater or whatever that is called by the lake in Como. Of course there's the already discussed Como Golf Course, which is an instant tie-in......And of course the flying down a hill could mean the ice slide, which was also mentioned. It all looks like Como so far. So either, not by ice slide, near the zoo or not by the zoo, near the ice ride.....however you want to look at it. I don't think it's too off to assume Como at this point....it's a big park!

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Duff - 05:59pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1488 of 22130)

If you are driving East on 494 between 61 and Lake Drive in woodbury, you will see the Ski Jump on you left. That is all Maplewood, just drive by and look at the street signs all of them have the maple on them. Maplewood is larger than you think. It wraps all the way down there

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Step - 06:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1489 of 22130)

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ShovelMaster--It was just there two years ago, though.....

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Wright Winger - 06:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1490 of 22130)

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phalen on st.paul would be good, but hunters will wander to maplewood, and i have faith the pioneerpress is smart enough to think about that, as to not risk maplewood destroying the treasure hunt forever.

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Dave F - 06:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1491 of 22130)

This is great, a place to chat about the hunt.

You all have great ideas. It is fun to see such enthusiasm.

It seems to me that maybe the paper is just trying to be upfront in these first two clues, because they expect many new hunters who may not know all the rules.

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Wright Winger - 06:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1492 of 22130)

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thanks duff

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Crazy Hunta' - 06:02pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1493 of 22130)

It could be como, because they say stay away from the golf course in clue one, and then in cle two they say stay away from the sliding hills, and the golf course is the sliding hills at como

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Step - 06:03pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1494 of 22130)

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Dave--I agree--

It seems to me theat it is at a park with a course for sure--otherwise they wouldn't have four lines about it!

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Step - 06:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1495 of 22130)

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Crazy hunta--good point....

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Groan - 06:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1496 of 22130)

I'll get that imposter "Green"

I'm so in my element. The hunt is on. By the way where is my brain?

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Wright Winger - 06:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1497 of 22130)

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not bad dave, but i think the press will try to give the local people an advantage. because theirs talk of professionals coming for the 10,000 this year.

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Duff - 06:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1498 of 22130)

No problem, I am still partial to Phalen and with the big dough this year Dave is probably right there are going to be a lot of idiots out there for the first time and wont have any respect for the tradition of the Hunt or the land

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Duff - 06:06pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1499 of 22130)

Don't we all consider ourselfs professionals. (ha ha)

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Those Medalling Kids - 06:07pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1500 of 22130)

I think that the first two clues are warnings as where not to dig. Last year was my first year searching and on the watercooler. I was at Cherokee a lot, and the place was totally destroyed. With the big bucks out there, there is likely to be an increase in the number of people participating. Thus an increased need to try and save land such as golf courses and sledding hills for the kids...

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Black Widow 1 - 06:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1501 of 22130)

Hey Green,

Just thought I would check in to see how many cooler heads still prevail. Also to let you and Cheryl aka the Three Planeteers know that I'm on the side lines this year as we just had a future cooler head the 28th of Dec. Let me know if there is anything I can help with from here.

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ShovelMaster - 06:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1502 of 22130)

1998's "Shovel Boy"

I guess, if it was there two years ago...that would be the last place anyone would look. and seeing as the pot is an amazing $10,000 with button this year that might be just the tciekt to keep people away until they start throwing the real catchy clues our way.......I don't know.....they do have a knack for writing clues that could applky to just about every park in the 5 state area, but from an early standpoint it looks like Como....thats all

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Brian S - 06:10pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1503 of 22130)

With all the talk of French definitions of the word nil wouldn't Montreal Ave come back into play at Highland Park.

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Wright Winger - 06:10pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1504 of 22130)

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professinals in my mind for contest people are those who travel around compeating in contest, and thats their jobs.

as of us, your professional if your going on the imfamious "midnight runs" after getting the paper and running thru the parks screaming with your flamming laterns digging franticly in the freazing cold and blinding dark at the midnight hour with your cell phones handy.

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Wright Winger - 06:11pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1505 of 22130)

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hey brian, me likes that.

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Duff - 06:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1506 of 22130)

Thats a given, my motto is you cant find it if you don't dig and dig and dig and dig. This is the easy part

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Step - 06:16pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1507 of 22130)

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Como does sound good, but do you think they would actually put it there again???

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Wright Winger - 06:17pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1508 of 22130)

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no como, too obvious, and too recent.

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Groan - 06:18pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1509 of 22130)

I'll get that imposter "Green"

I think it's in my pants

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Wright Winger - 06:19pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1510 of 22130)

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groan? what the heII, what happened to green.

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MJ - 06:19pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1511 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Hello again . . . .

Green, will you call in "sick" for me tomorrow. I'm going diggin!!!

Phalen has much more to the connections than Grumpy Old Men!!! I'm going back to dig!!!

Later!!

Step, if you're out there, look for a BLUE VAN!!!

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steve allen - 06:19pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1512 of 22130)

DO THEY WANT COMO DUG UP , AFTER THE MONEY THEY STUCK INTO IT. IT WAS THERE TWO YEARS AGO.

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Wright Winger - 06:25pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1513 of 22130)

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joe medalion is back, and on shoot the breeze.

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Birdie15 - 06:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1514 of 22130)

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where have people been diggin? I was at Mounds Park about 20 minutes ago and there was no one there and only a few footprints.

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ShovelMaster - 06:29pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1515 of 22130)

1998's "Shovel Boy"

why not dig up Como again? They already have experience fixing it up in the Spring, that'll make it easier for them. Besides, one way or another, multiple Saint Paul parks are going to look like downtown Beirut when this whole thing is over. So, stay with me here for a second. You can reverse logic, and re-reverse it and so on, that';s why it's called a mind f**k, but Como is huge and boundless, and the fact that it was there two years ago, makes it even yummier. Don't forget that Cherokee had been used fairly recently and everyone one of it's opponents said no way to Cherokee last year, and while they all treaded with pick axes on sacred indian ground, 2000 of us tore apart a city park and not one police officer showed up to put a stop to it. Isn't this medallion hunt great?

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Wright Winger - 06:30pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1516 of 22130)

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im taking a nap, me be back when das clue 3 appears.

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ShovelMaster - 06:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1517 of 22130)

1998's "Shovel Boy"

outside the circle of standard activity: Is anyone else having trouble getting their picture up next to their name. I know how webclip works, I used it last year, but I looked at the instructions again and its not working. You're supposed to go into the box in your preferences next to (your picture) and then hit control v to bring your picture into play, except that it's not letting me click in the box next to your picture.

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Wayne Cammando - 06:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1518 of 22130)

I think maybe the capital

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Step - 06:33pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1519 of 22130)

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MJ--you here?

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Birdie15 - 06:37pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1520 of 22130)

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It didn't neccesarily say a park did it? Didn't it say a public place?

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steve allen - 06:37pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1521 of 22130)

IF THE SHOVELMASTER IS RIGHT COMO IS ONE OF THEIR FAVORITE PARKS TO HIDE THE COIN. WHATS WITH THE ICE SLIDE

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Terry Valentine - 06:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1522 of 22130)

Rehash Bash! Sunday, February 6 - In the park that the medallion is found. Pot luck picnic! Put the date on your calendar!

Shovel Master - Run webclip, click inside the box for your picture on the preferences page, hit Control-V to insert picture, (You'll see some code inside the box - often it says "end*"), go to the bottom of the preference page and hit set preferences and then go to the bottom of the next page and hit okay.

I'm headed out for some food, then some drive arounds and get some answers to things rumbling around in my noggin today. I'll post later if I find anything interesting.

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Step - 06:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1523 of 22130)

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its always a park though....

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Mhunter Schbabs - 06:40pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1524 of 22130)

(Just Call Me Schbabs)

My sister thinks it's at Phalen, but I'm not to sure. I know it's dumb logic, but every year that Phalen had the medallion, the decade ended in a three. I can't wait until I get this Friday off so I can look for it.

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Step - 06:42pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1525 of 22130)

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Schbabs--I agree. I think it's at phalen also...

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Birdie15 - 06:43pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1526 of 22130)

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What about 1989 when it was at the Capitol Mall, or 69 when it was at 35-E and Victoria? Or 67 when it was at the fair grounds?

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Mhunter Schbabs - 06:44pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1527 of 22130)

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What if you're not eighteen, can they award the prize to your parents? What are the specific details/rules of the hunt? If that's the case, how come there's always a lot of little childen helping in the find?

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Mhunter Schbabs - 06:45pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1528 of 22130)

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It can't be at those places. It has to be in a park because one year the postal service had a cow because people were messing with the mail boxes.

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ticktock - 06:48pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1529 of 22130)

I'm wondering if the medallion is in the Capitol Mall park. There is mention of a slide, but not near it. I cannot see why there is the reason to have it hidden near a park with a golf course. Any takers? Where's Casey from last year and who's the monitor now?

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MedallionGuy - 06:55pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1530 of 22130)

I think it almost has to be in a park because the way people complain

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Step - 06:59pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1531 of 22130)

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Phalen for me early on.....

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Step - 07:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1532 of 22130)

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anyone still in here?

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I'm still in here.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:10pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1534 of 22130)

Any thoughts about the ski jump and ski area at battle creek, if your"flying downhill", wouldn't you be in mid air? golf courses have nothing to do with it, it's just a general warning to stay off them. plus you can see the jump from a ways away and you don't have to be near.

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ticktock - 07:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1535 of 22130)

Battle Creek is another good site - there may be a downhill standard ie ski, sled

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Birdie15 - 07:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1536 of 22130)

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anyone been out diggin?

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ticktock - 07:15pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1537 of 22130)

not here, not yet. maybe after clue 4

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SS - 07:16pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1538 of 22130)

Keep in mind that the center of this year's festivities is the ice slide. Celebrates this year's anniversary. May give some insight to the first two clues.

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Birdie15 - 07:16pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1539 of 22130)

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Yea, I'll proably go out Wednesday or Thursday night

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Mhunter Schbabs - 07:16pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1540 of 22130)

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I haven't been digging yet. I usually wait for several clues before I start digging.

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Step - 07:17pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1541 of 22130)

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you think Battle Creek, huh?

Is is just because of the ski jump?

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Step - 07:17pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1542 of 22130)

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where is the ice slide?

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Birdie15 - 07:18pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1543 of 22130)

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How about Hidden Falls??

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Step - 07:19pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1544 of 22130)

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I don't like the Hidden Falls Idea as of yet....

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Step - 07:20pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1545 of 22130)

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I really think they have it at a park with a golf course....

They have never had such a formal warning to go on one, and if it wasn't near one, why would they do that?

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steve allen - 07:20pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1546 of 22130)

#1534 YOU GOT IT, I WAS THE GUY WHO ASKED ABOUT THE JUMP.

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ticktock - 07:22pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1547 of 22130)

mention was made (by fellow searchers) of harriet park - if the ice palace is to be built next year, this $10,000 would eliminate the searchers at harriet by finding the medallion there this year in order to keep the sightseeing of the palace more open next year. any downhill site available at harriet? I can't remember seeing sledding hills.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:24pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1548 of 22130)

Steve Allen, what do you mean? 1534.

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snowdigger - 07:25pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1549 of 22130)

What do you think "flying downhill" means?

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Step - 07:25pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1550 of 22130)

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Paul--are you a hockey referee?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:26pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1551 of 22130)

Steve Allen, what do you mean? 1534.

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Step - 07:26pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1552 of 22130)

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snowdigger-- I honestly think sledding and skiing is far too obvious. I am trying to think of some other meanings...

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ticktock - 07:27pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1553 of 22130)

flying downhill could also mean the hollman airport that can be seen from mounds park.

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snowdigger - 07:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1554 of 22130)

You're probably right step.

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Birdie15 - 07:29pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1555 of 22130)

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I think Flying downhill could mean Falls? I dunno

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Step - 07:29pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1556 of 22130)

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ticktock--and it can be an attraction because they host airshows there!!

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snowdigger - 07:30pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1557 of 22130)

What about the downhill part ticktock?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:30pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1558 of 22130)

step-- my uncle, Jerry Krieger and his son Jerome Krieger are, not me

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I think clue #1 is meaning more than we think, but I don't know what yet

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Step - 07:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1560 of 22130)

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snowdigger--planes take off below the cliff (downhill??)

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snowdigger - 07:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1561 of 22130)

As in Hidden Falls birdie15?

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ticktock - 07:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1562 of 22130)

step- mounds park was 87. I think a similar clue to sliding was given then. any body have it?

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Step - 07:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1563 of 22130)

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Yeah! Jerry refereed my high school's games...cool.

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Birdie15 - 07:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1564 of 22130)

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yes

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snowdigger - 07:33pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1565 of 22130)

I don't think we can assume much until we see the next clue.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:33pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1566 of 22130)

Flying and planes aren't really a popular outdoor attraction as skiing and sledding are

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Step - 07:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1567 of 22130)

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but why do they refer to sledding as an attraction?? Nobody goes to WATCH sledding.....

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Birdie15 - 07:35pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1568 of 22130)

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Usually, the first 3 clues hint at what the medallion is hidden in, did we overlook that, or is it yet to come?

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Cory J Hitzman - 07:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1569 of 22130)

The true meaning to clues #1 & 2 will become clear by about Thursday or Friday. That's when things will get interesting.

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Step - 07:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1570 of 22130)

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Birdie--I don't see any connection to an actual object it could be in yet....

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ticktock - 07:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1571 of 22130)

flying as in plane, downhill as in sliding, too close to the action is off the cliff.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:37pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1572 of 22130)

people go watch ski jumping though

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Birdie15 - 07:37pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1573 of 22130)

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does green have to do with it maybe? I dunno, I am just throwing Ideas out there.

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snowdigger - 07:38pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1574 of 22130)

birdie- do you think that "action" and "scene" imply that it is hidden in a video case?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1575 of 22130)

people go watch ski jumping though

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Birdie15 - 07:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1576 of 22130)

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snowdigger---- that is a got analysis. It is possible, maybe a green Mr. Movies case? lol Can someone type the first clue for me please.

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ticktock - 07:41pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1577 of 22130)

I'm going out for a ciggy. clue 3 might tell us what the medallion is in.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:41pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1578 of 22130)

people go watch ski jumping though

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snowdigger - 07:42pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1579 of 22130)

I would birdie but I don't have it in front of me.

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Mhunter Schbabs - 07:42pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1580 of 22130)

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Have they ever hidden it in Mounds Park. I'm not sure it'd be in there because I think people would be to afraid that some hunters would mess around with the actual indian mounds. The website www.coolercrew.com has a list of where it was hidden along with some of the clues from those years. You should check it out. I thought it was very imformative.

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snowdigger - 07:42pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1581 of 22130)

first clue anyone?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 07:43pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1582 of 22130)

the other thing with action ans scene is they are the last words of each clue, let's see what the last word in 3 is

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Cory J Hitzman - 07:43pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1583 of 22130)

Birdie 15:

The time for fun has now begun In our hunt that's open to all But if you don't want to be outdone Look only on public ground in St Paul

A park is the spot but a golf course is not So please don't disturb a fairway or green Follow this advice and you won't be caught Wasting your time at the wrong scene

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snowdigger - 07:43pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1584 of 22130)

It was in Mounds Park in 1987.

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Birdie15 - 07:44pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1585 of 22130)

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It was hidden in Mounds in 87

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Mhunter Schbabs - 07:46pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1586 of 22130)

(Just Call Me Schbabs)

Clue 1

The time for fun has now begun In our hunt that's open to all But if you don't want to be outdone Look only on public ground in St. Paul A park is the spot but a golf course is not. So please don't distrub a fairway or green Follow this advice and you won't be caught Wasting your time at the wrong scene

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MJ - 07:46pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1587 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Bock! No luck. Step, are you here???

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Medallionhound - 07:47pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1588 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

The basics:

#1 A park in St. Paul (additional meaning if any is later) #2 A sledding/skiing area in park not near treasure.

What rule says that there has to be a golf course in the park that the medallion is hidden in?

#3 Tonight @ 11:30

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snowdigger - 07:48pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1589 of 22130)

clue 2: Flying downhill can be quite a thrill and a popular outdoor attraction but your chances of winning are nil if you get too close to the action

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Birdie15 - 07:49pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1590 of 22130)

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I feel that these clues are saying that the park doesn't have a park or sledding areas. I am kinda leaning towards Hidden Falls

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snowdigger - 07:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1591 of 22130)

medallionhound- it is implied because in clue 1 it says " a park is the spot but a golf course is not"

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Birdie15 - 07:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1592 of 22130)

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Last year, clue #3 said that you should watch for a place where kids like to zoom, refering to the sliding hill. This year it is saying that you should avoid sliding hills

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MJ - 07:51pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1593 of 22130)

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I'll check back in when I get home (about an hour). Catch you all later!!!

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jeloba - 07:52pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1594 of 22130)

Hello everyone I am new here. With the thought to battle creek in 95 clue #8 refers to the thrill of going downhill, does that mean anything with clue #2 for this year? Just a thought...

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snowdigger - 07:52pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1595 of 22130)

Has anyone been out digging yet?

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Birdie15 - 07:53pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1596 of 22130)

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beGUN----- are there any type of Indian statues with guns in Mounds?

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snowdigger - 07:53pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1597 of 22130)

jeloba- what did the thrill of going downhill mean in 1995?

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Venatic - 07:53pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1598 of 22130)

My partner and I have a hard time believing it would be in Mounds park because of the Indian burial mounds and the way idiots would desecrate them. Highland Park sounds good.

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Medallionhound - 07:54pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1599 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

Snowdigger i did not say that it was not in a park I am saying that there is no rule that says that it has to be in a park that has a golf course.

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snowdigger - 07:54pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1600 of 22130)

I was there today birdie and I didn't see any.

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Step - 07:55pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1601 of 22130)

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The more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards Como again. I know it was just there but the first two clues fit it.

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snowdigger - 07:55pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1603 of 22130)

venatic- it was there in 87

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jeloba - 07:56pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1604 of 22130)

it said "downhill" was bringing back the sliding reference.

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Birdie15 - 07:56pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1605 of 22130)

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Thrill, attraction, action, caught, scene, green, I cannot put these together!!!

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Step - 07:57pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1606 of 22130)

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Birdie--why do you group those words together?

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Medallionhound - 07:58pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1607 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

Birdie don't try it is to early for the specifics.

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the two faced bandit - 07:58pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1608 of 22130)

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lurking

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Birdie15 - 07:59pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1609 of 22130)

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I dunno

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Step - 08:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1610 of 22130)

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I don't understand the "attraction" part of clue #2...sledding isn't an attraction?

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Venatic - 08:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1611 of 22130)

snowdigger, Yes and that's when people got really upset about it also. In fact last year there were foot prints on the mounds from people who don't know how to respect fences and beliefs. Neighbors and the Native American community were pretty pissed off.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 08:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1612 of 22130)

"Flying downhill can be quite a thrill"-- it is a thrill for someone to ski down a hill. "And a popular outdoor attraction"-- people go to the ski jump at battle creek to watch; attraction to it. "Chances of winning are nil, if you get to close to the action"- chances are slim if you get to close to the jump, it is high enough that it can be seen from a distance.

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jeloba - 08:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1613 of 22130)

Also the first year that the medallion is listed , it was hidden in highland park...

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Birdie15 - 08:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1614 of 22130)

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look at the explainations of past hunts. The first two clues are very significant. last year, clue #2 told you the park. In 97 clue #2 told you what it was hidden in. In 96, clue #2 told you what it was hidden in

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Eagle Eye - 08:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1615 of 22130)

The final clue last year, Clue #12, started like this:

"Your luck will be nil until you go west from a hill near Chippewa Avenue and Wyoming Street."

Interesting that the clue-writer used the word nil last year too. I think the use of the word nil is just part of the writer's style, and probably doesn't refer to anything special.

But I could be wrong...

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Step - 08:02pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1616 of 22130)

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But where from a distance????

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jeloba - 08:03pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1617 of 22130)

I like regalman's idea, skiing is an attraction and a thrill, and they have the skiing at battle creek, well at least you can see it.. How much of Battle Creek though is in Maplewood? They made it pretty clear where the past clues are listed that Maplewood didn't appreciate it..And 1982 was the last time the medallion was hidden outside of st paul

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Step - 08:03pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1618 of 22130)

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I think people are getting WAY too much into detail...

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Ms. Milwaukee - 08:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1619 of 22130)

not exactly sure where it can be seen from, but it is high enough

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Wright Winger - 08:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1620 of 22130)

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maybe nil means cherokee again?

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the two faced bandit - 08:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1621 of 22130)

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Howdy Eags!

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Birdie15 - 08:05pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1622 of 22130)

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This years clues will have somethin to do with History because of the Anniversary, might this be tellin us that this might be the first time in history that the medallion was hidden in the same park two times in a row?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 08:05pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1623 of 22130)

not exactly sure where it can be seen from, but it is high enough

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the two faced bandit - 08:06pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1624 of 22130)

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Yeah that'd be cool if they hid in the exact same place as last year!!

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Medallionhound - 08:06pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1625 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

About 1/3 of Battle Creek is in Maplewood, the Eastern third. Step you are correct that people are getting to detailed.

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Birdie15 - 08:06pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1626 of 22130)

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If it is cherokee, it would be sweet because we all know Cherokee like the back of our hand from being there so often last year

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Cory J Hitzman - 08:07pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1627 of 22130)

Just searching maps of St. Paul, and Saw the park along the river on the Highland part of town. Downhill maybe somehow a reference to SUMMIT Avenue?

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ticktock - 08:07pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1628 of 22130)

I'm back. Can you see Hollman airport from the Capitol mall Park?

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Step - 08:07pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1629 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

could be Birdie....

But does Cherokee fit all of the discription so far?

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Mhunter Schbabs - 08:07pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1630 of 22130)

(Just Call Me Schbabs)

This is just a crazy idea, but maybe the nil could also be short for Nilla as in wafers. Maybe could be in a nilla wafer box.

I do think I'm going way far off with that idea.

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the two faced bandit - 08:08pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1631 of 22130)

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Oh God I know it like the back of my hand anyways. But.......I think that CP again iz wishful thinking

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Step - 08:08pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1632 of 22130)

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medallionhound--what I get out of it so far is that it is at a park with a golf course and a sledding/skiing hill and you should avoid both....

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Eagle Eye - 08:10pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1633 of 22130)

Hey! Anybuddy want to go to Cherokee Park and dig in the same exact spot where it was found last year??? I'm liking this idea!

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Step - 08:10pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1634 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

nil=nothing.

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Wright Winger - 08:10pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1635 of 22130)

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cherokee, has sledding. it has no golf. it was an attraction for us last year. i spouse all parks fit description so far. we'll see tonight.

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the two faced bandit - 08:10pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1636 of 22130)

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What *some* people did wrong last year was look TOO DEEP into the clues.

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Birdie15 - 08:11pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1637 of 22130)

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Scene, caught-------Police Station REMEMBER, Cherokee exstends farther down past the HighBridge\ Flying Downhill-----go farther downhill towards the bluffs where you can see the Police station

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the two faced bandit - 08:11pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1638 of 22130)

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Eags: You live by CP, wanna go try it now?

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Medallionhound - 08:11pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1639 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

Step i am with you all the way so far. But there is the nagging part of me that the park doesn't have a golf course.

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Step - 08:11pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1640 of 22130)

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bandit--they really were basic when they gave the answers....i agree with you.

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Wright Winger - 08:12pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1641 of 22130)

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dug the spot in hidden falls, found a mound of dirt. nothing in it. hmm, maybe same spot in cherokee. to the bat(medallion)mobile robin!!

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Eagle Eye - 08:12pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1642 of 22130)

I don't think "nil" has any special significance. I think the clue-writer just likes to use that word to rhyme with "hill".

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Step - 08:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1643 of 22130)

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Hound--Really? You may be right, but why would they go in such detail about it if there was no course? It just doesn't make sense to me...any opinion?

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Cory J Hitzman - 08:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1644 of 22130)

Any idea right now can somehow be twisted to fit the clues. For some reason, with the amount available, I feel the medallion will be in some small, one or two block park, not the large well mapped out parks.

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the two faced bandit - 08:14pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1645 of 22130)

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Well, I'm going to CP by the tree they found it at last year. Anybuddy wanna join me?

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Wright Winger - 08:14pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1646 of 22130)

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well i think the detail is an excuse for two reasons. throw people off. and ryme with scene. i like scene. but cant fit it with cherokee yet. oh scenic overlook, it has those right?

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Step - 08:15pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1647 of 22130)

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Cory--good point....in a certain way, they are kind of turing us off from big parks....avoid golf courses and sledding hills?

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Medallionhound - 08:15pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1648 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

Step- It might not have a golf course but at the begging they are so vague with the clues they don't want idiots digging them up.

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Step - 08:15pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1649 of 22130)

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It's not at Cherokee....

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Wright Winger - 08:15pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1650 of 22130)

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I would join you, but gots school tomorow. could go afterwards. but youve dug by then.

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Wright Winger - 08:16pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1651 of 22130)

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well cherokee, highland, or hiddenfalls.

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Step - 08:16pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1652 of 22130)

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hound--that could be....I can't wait for tonights clue...I think it will have some REAL answers in it....

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Cory J Hitzman - 08:17pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1653 of 22130)

Behind the capitol, there is a scenic overlook of the city at the corner of University and Jackson. Could that have something to do with the golf clue? (the platform looks like a gigantic tee)

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Eagle Eye - 08:17pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1654 of 22130)

Bandit: It *would* be fun, just to say we dug there when we *knew* it couldn't possibly be there! I'm thinking its not at Cherokee. Right now, I'm thinking along the same lines as those folks who think it is in a park *with* a golf course and sledding hill. But I could be wrong...

Hey, if you go out there, though, remember it was near a tree that had white chalk on it - some said the word "crack" was written on the tree.

Oh, there I go - living in the past again. Maybe I'll go post on last year's hunt board.

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Medallionhound - 08:17pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1655 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

Wright Winger- What about Battle Creek?

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Birdie15 - 08:17pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1656 of 22130)

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I still think it is in a park with no sledding hills or golf courses. Hidden Falls, Mounds

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ticktock - 08:18pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1657 of 22130)

I agree with MH. With $10,000 more will be out searching. Try to minimize damage, with clue 1.

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Step - 08:18pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1658 of 22130)

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Cory--It says to avoid golf, though...

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the two faced bandit - 08:18pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1659 of 22130)

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Alrighty then, I shall be bock...........hopefully w/good news for da bandit.

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Eagle Eye - 08:19pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1660 of 22130)

Good luck Bandit!

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Step - 08:19pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1661 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

What about como-- the golf course AND sledding/skiing hills are one!

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Wright Winger - 08:19pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1662 of 22130)

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oh yea, BC good too. HF my fav still

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Medallionhound - 08:20pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1663 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

Why HF the early favorite?

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Cory J Hitzman - 08:21pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1664 of 22130)

Step- You do not use a tee on the fairway or green, but instead just hit the ball directly from the ground there. Also, you can "look only onto public ground in St Paul", the capitol.

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Step - 08:22pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1665 of 22130)

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medallionhound--alot of people think that "flying" in flying downhill has some different meaning...do you think it just means flying as in going fast?

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Step - 08:22pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1666 of 22130)

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good point Cory...

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Eagle Eye - 08:23pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1667 of 22130)

The second part of Clue #1 says "A park is the spot..." so I'm thinking that rules out the Capitol mall.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 08:24pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1668 of 22130)

I say HF to dangerous, this year is going to be the biggest population wise. try getting 100 cars on river road and the hill down there. w/ all the ice there right now, never. I'm a student at Highland Senior High and I'll go ther tomorrow morning, but I'd douubt it

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Step - 08:24pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1669 of 22130)

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yeah--It's DEFINATELY at a park...

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Medallionhound - 08:24pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1670 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

It could be sledding.Skiing, Ski Jump, just steep hill like at Hidden Falls, all these activities are fast.

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ticktock - 08:24pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1671 of 22130)

How about eliminating parks? Tough to find on 2 clues.

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Step - 08:25pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1672 of 22130)

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regalman--I think you are right...with all of the people this year it HAS to be at a big park...

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Medallionhound - 08:26pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1673 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

The clues are so vague that the really haven't begun to eliminate parks yet for us. They will start within the next 2 clues to give us an idea of what parks not to look at.

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Vonnie's Troop - 08:27pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1674 of 22130)

"To heck with the clues...let's just look in Como Park!" This one's for you, Mom

It's dangerous to read too much into the clues this early in the quest. We think the flying down hill clue is a red herring regarding sledding, and maybe refers to Holman field down below. (Mounds?)

Think we'll have another hot chocolate....

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Step - 08:27pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1675 of 22130)

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I'm goin with the big boys---Phalen, Como, Highland early on....

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ticktock - 08:27pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1676 of 22130)

step-1672. I parked ~3.5 blocks to get to Newell.

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Wright Winger - 08:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1677 of 22130)

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HF is my pyhcic guess. but ya, big hunt. what do they do for special hunt? they go to highland. why, i dont know.

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Cory J Hitzman - 08:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1678 of 22130)

At the overlook, it is a park, overlooking the capitol mall. And the whole area is hilly, possibly with sledding hills, over even cars sliding down an icy hill!

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Step - 08:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1679 of 22130)

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Voonie--you think como???

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MedallionGuy - 08:30pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1681 of 22130)

It cant be Como because they dont want people digging up the park with all the events there. And also they remodeled all of the park last summer.

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Cory J Hitzman - 08:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1682 of 22130)

Wright Winger- What does HF stand for? Highland is HP.

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MedallionGuy - 08:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1684 of 22130)

Wasnt there a clue like this one a couple years back? Does anyone else remember it?

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Medallionhound - 08:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1685 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

HF=Hidden Falls

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Wookiee - 08:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1686 of 22130)

Where can you buy a winter carnival button before the post mark dead line to register comes? I have tried a number of places without any luck.

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Cory J Hitzman - 08:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1687 of 22130)

Thanx Medallionhound

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Step - 08:33pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1688 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Wookie--SA, Holiday...

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MedallionGuy - 08:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1689 of 22130)

Try a SuperAmerica I just got mine there

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Step - 08:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1690 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

So that leaves Highland & Phalen--I don't know, I just have a wierd feeling that it is at one of these parks...

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ticktock - 08:35pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1691 of 22130)

Anybody think the Winter Carnival has multiple sets of clues in case of a last minute change due to ??????

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MedallionGuy - 08:35pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1692 of 22130)

I heard that people at Phalen wont let them hide it there because last time the entire golf course was ripped up, but who knows, rumors fly fast about these things

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Step - 08:35pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1693 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

ticktock--what????

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Medallionhound - 08:35pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1694 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

Explain??????????

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Cory J Hitzman - 08:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1695 of 22130)

Does the same person write the clues every year? If so, maybe a pattern to nil mentioned earlier may be able to be used.

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MedallionGuy - 08:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1696 of 22130)

The PP makes up the clues though

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Step - 08:37pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1697 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Medallionguy--and that's why i think they used such an obvious warning in the first clue...they HAVE to have it at a big park and all of them have courses...

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Medallionhound - 08:38pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1698 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

If I knew who was writing the clues, they would have a new best friend every minute of the day.

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ticktock - 08:38pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1699 of 22130)

Say the site was exposed or had such a risk of personal injury- just guessing.

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Step - 08:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1700 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

ticktock--I still don't understand....

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Birdie15 - 08:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1701 of 22130)

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Who ever makes up these clues is a frickin genius

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Medallionhound - 08:40pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1702 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

I am Stepping with you on that ambulance chaser.

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Cory J Hitzman - 08:40pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1703 of 22130)

To do this year after year and never let something slip. Is the writer human, or some kinda supercomputer?

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SNAKE - 08:41pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1704 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

WHERE IS EVERYONE LOOKING

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Birdie15 - 08:41pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1705 of 22130)

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Anyone heard of Prosperity Park?

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Step - 08:42pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1706 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Snake--its a little too early to look and everyone has different theories....

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Step - 08:42pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1707 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Birdie--I have....

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Medallionhound - 08:43pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1708 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

Snake do you know Mike Madland?

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Birdie15 - 08:45pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1709 of 22130)

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I remember lookin at Prosperity about 5 years ago. It is very small though

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ticktock - 08:45pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1710 of 22130)

There is quite a snowfall predicted, maybe 4-6". More to dig through.

If the clues were written before a realization was made later as to "why is it in Como when the city just updated the grounds?". Another set of clues could be used. Is the site watched prior to the clues coming out? just talking

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Cory J Hitzman - 08:45pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1711 of 22130)

Prosperity Park is on the East side, a friend and I play basketball there occasionally.

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SNAKE - 08:46pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1712 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

IM MIKE THAT IS A PICTURE OF MY SON DON HOLDING THE MEDALLION

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Birdie15 - 08:47pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1713 of 22130)

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I am thinkin of Prospect Park then

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ticktock - 08:47pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1714 of 22130)

Snake- cute medallion

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Step - 08:47pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1715 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

1988 huh? You're about due for another one!

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SNAKE - 08:48pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1716 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

IM MIKE THAT IS A PICTURE OF MY SON DON HOLDING THE MEDALLION

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Medallionhound - 08:48pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1717 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

That is a cool picture, after what clue did you head to Tony Schmidt Park?

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Step - 08:48pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1718 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

ah, prospect park...a few thought it was there last year...

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SNAKE - 08:49pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1719 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

IM MIKE THAT IS A PICTURE OF MY SON DON HOLDING THE MEDALLION

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MedallionGuy - 08:49pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1720 of 22130)

Everyone is still just making guesses or going on instinct.

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ticktock - 08:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1721 of 22130)

Where's flying downhill at Prosp.?

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MedallionGuy - 08:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1722 of 22130)

Does anyone know yet why the first clue came out early??

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Cory J Hitzman - 08:52pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1723 of 22130)

ticktock-

there is none, Unless something else points to it, I wouldn't concider prosperity heights

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MG - nope.

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MedallionGuy - 08:52pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1725 of 22130)

Is there skiing anywhere else in St. Paul besides Como

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Birdie15 - 08:53pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1726 of 22130)

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Wasting-----garbage??

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Medallionhound - 08:53pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1727 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

MG- Highland,Phalen,Battle Creek

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Cory J Hitzman - 08:54pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1728 of 22130)

At Battle Creek, a brand new x-country ski trail was completed, complete with lights at night until nine.

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Treasure Digger - 08:54pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1729 of 22130)

Hey, fellow hunters. Just came back from buying a 99 Atlas. Had to check on a previous message about there being a Fairway, Maryland and a Green, Idaho. Proved that wrong. Needed a new atlas anyway. I typed this in a previous message. I talked to a lady at Mom last year. She said that only 2 people know where the medallion is hidden. Nobody else at Mom knows but them -- in case something happened to one of them the other would still know. Anyway, further talking to her the fact that the medallion does not have to be hidden before the first clue comes out. After all, she said, it's their game and they make up the rules. With a storm coming in tonight, it's definitely going to be a beast hunting out there!! I'm still leaning more toward Highland.

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MedallionGuy - 08:55pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1730 of 22130)

Is Battle Creek a big park?

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Birdie15 - 08:55pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1731 of 22130)

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I have a funny feeling that clue #1 is telling more than what we think. What is green, caught, scene leading too?

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MedallionGuy - 08:57pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1732 of 22130)

It might not be saying that much though (#1) and it might just be acting as a warning.

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Treasure Digger - 08:59pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1733 of 22130)

I remember last year's clues leading people to choose between Indian Mounds and Cherokee. It wasn't until the very last 2 clues, that they actually flat out told us Cherokee. After all, clues last year fit both IM and Cherokee. Double division, don't blow your stack, ... I think that's what they're trying to do now. Make us decide on two parks and then make a choice as to which one it is. Closer to the end, they will slap our hands and say "you fool, you should have been at ???? all along!" Thoughts...

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Medallionhound - 09:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1734 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

They do not even have us down to two parks they still have us contemplating many parks. It doesn't always come down to just 2.

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Cory J Hitzman - 09:03pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1735 of 22130)

Battle Creek park follows the creek from it origin all the way over by 3M over to the caves by Hwy 61 at Pig's Eye. It is huge, has many sledding trails, new cross country trails, and old downhill trail, and just about everything else except a golf course. One problem: medallion was there just a few years ago.

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Birdie15 - 09:03pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1736 of 22130)

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Last year in clue 2, all they told us was water and woods which could have been any park

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Medallionhound - 09:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1737 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

Cory is there a Ski Jump there and if so where?

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Treasure Digger - 09:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1738 of 22130)

That might be true, however, at the end, they pretty much tell you. If course, they want us to ponder as to where they put it and in what if anything. Best thing is what we are doing, sharing ideas, driving to the parks and coming back and reporting to other hunters. I do agree with the rest of you that tonight's clue should give a better view of where to head to or maybe they'll tease us and not tell us anything but it's out there somewhere in St. Paul.

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Birdie15 - 09:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1739 of 22130)

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Wasting----waste--------Pig's Eye

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ticktock - 09:05pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1740 of 22130)

A lot of parks look like Newell. The PP didn't nail the park down until Butler & ???? were clued. It's usually several parks until the streets are clued.

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Cory J Hitzman - 09:05pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1741 of 22130)

Although not in the park itself, a ski jump is visible, at the intersection of I494 and Carver Road in Maplewood.

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Birdie15 - 09:06pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1742 of 22130)

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Has it ever been hidden plain(not in something)?

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Medallionhound - 09:06pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1743 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

Thanks for that info Cory.

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SNAKE - 09:07pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1744 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

FROM THE CLUES SO FAR IT COULD BE IN MY BACK YARD

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Medallionhound - 09:08pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1745 of 22130)

alias in'98 - Patrick Budion

In 1990 it was in a dirt clump,1981 leaf clump.

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Cory J Hitzman - 09:08pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1746 of 22130)

The jump has not been used for many years, but used to be used almost eavery year for the carnival back in the 60s and 70s.

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SNAKE - 09:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1747 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

FROM THE CLUES SO FAR IT COULD BE IN MY BACK YARD

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ticktock - 09:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1748 of 22130)

B-15 The medallion has been attached to trees, benches, tables etc. Eight inches of ice at the fairgrounds in '67.

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SNAKE - 09:10pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1749 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

FROM THE CLUES SO FAR IT COULD BE IN MY BACK YARD

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Allison Wonderland - 09:11pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1750 of 22130)

Dreams are the roadmap to life; without them we are lost

Sorry Treasure Digger for making you buy a new almanac. I was the one who originally came up with the Fairway, Maryland idea. I got it off a map CD, but when I saw your post I double-checked it. Apparently I wasn't just searching cities, but rather cities/places and Fairway was a "place" in Maryland, but not a city, whatever that means. The same is probably true for Idaho if you couldn't find it. Again I apologize, but its a new program I'm not used to yet. I still think its Phalen though.

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Birdie15 - 09:12pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1751 of 22130)

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Well, I gotta take a break from all this. See everyone in about an hour

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MedallionGuy - 09:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1752 of 22130)

I'm out for now maybe will meet up with all of you later

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Allison Wonderland - 09:14pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1753 of 22130)

Dreams are the roadmap to life; without them we are lost

I also wouldn't put too much faith in tonight's clue. They'll probably just give us some obscure sounding clue that really only refers to what the medallion is hidden in and not to where it might be.

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Eagle Eye - 09:15pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1754 of 22130)

Doing a map search on the Internet, I found Fairway, MD by keying that in as the city/state name. It is just north of Silver Springs. Who knows but what it is a small town??? Unless someone has an unabridged atlas, I'm not sure we can rule out the existence of Fairway, MD or Green, ID.

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Matt - 09:16pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1755 of 22130)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

RIDDLE ME THIS:

Does *ANYONE* actually think that when you post something out of the back of your rear end that the person you're actually talking to is going to SEE and RECOGNIZE a post with only "yes," or "good point," or "hi."

I'm hoping that the header font got some peoples' attention.

STOP POSTING WORTHLESS INFORMATION

BEFORE you run to your computer and post your ground breaking ideas, READ the other posts to see if your idea has already been brought up. In the several hundred posts I just read, there were only a small percentage of unique ideas... and a very large percentage (90+) of very excited people breaking the same good news over and over again.

What this causes, for all of you who really want your ideas to get through, is frustration and confusion for all people (like me) who actually want to sort through the information posted to dump into their think tanks to come up with ideas. READ THE POSTS. If there's anything that hasn't already been said, go ahead and share. If there's a similar idea with minor changes, feel free to append your ideas to the ones already present. But, *PLEASE* knock off the reiterations of exact ideas like, "I know it's in Phalen," or "I think you all are reading too far into the clues," as it doesn't contribute to the discussion at all. People reading 50 posts of worthless information and 3 posts of useful bits and pieces are bound to overlook stuff that could actually mean something. Stop spoiling the broth. And, speaking of that latter example...

I really think that people ought to kick back and drive around a little before you dig up someone's front yard. And, most of all, THINK a little more. The clues haven't really ever been deceiving. Just subtle. Everyone's jumping the gun trying to figure out the exact location with the first two clues. (Of how many? See my point.) So take the black and white and form a plan. Don't go so far as to look at the paper and think, "Hmm, that's printed on a derivitave of a roman font. Let's find some roman houses. I'll have to rent a transit and laser analysis equipment. What's the average architectural style of the neighborhood around THIS park? But, they didn't say that it couldn't be a parking lot. They have the word 'park' in it... Hmm.." The clues to come will shape a spot in peoples' minds better than three stanzas of general information. And aye, brainstorming is definately a powerful tool, but this place really isn't the place to dictate your thought process line by line. Form some ideas, I beg of you, before you post something that people are going to look at and laugh out loud, "Hah, STUPID." Anyway, enough of that. Please take the time to read this post again if you don't understand what I'm talking about. Ask someone to read it for you. Chances are, you're a likely candidate of the type of person I'm griping about.

Well, as soon as the next clue's released, I think I'm going to drive some parks. Until then, time to stock. :)

Also, anyone with access to IRC, (if you don't know what I'm talking about, see This page to check it out.) feel free to join me on EFNET #wintercarnival. I'll reside there for a couple days and see if it's worth my effort to keep the channel active. That's a great place to sound your mind in one word increments.

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Treasure Digger - 09:17pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1756 of 22130)

Allison Wonderland, that's okay. Like I said, I needed a new one anyway. Now I can keep on in each vehicle. I go camping a lot in the summer and you never know when you might need one. But, I did like to way you were thinking.

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Bubba The Medallion magnet - 09:19pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1757 of 22130)

what do u guys think of the gold course clue...i think it was to make sure all the extra people after the $10000 dont screw up the links

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Eagle Eye - 09:21pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1758 of 22130)

But when I keyed in Bumblef@#$, IA, it gave me an error message.

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Step - 09:21pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1759 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Matt- Relax man, we're just having some fun....settle down.

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Bubba The Medallion magnet - 09:21pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1760 of 22130)

hope its warm all week

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MJ - 09:22pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1761 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Matt, Easy Does It!!! Woa, sorry not everyone conforms to the specifics that you have requested.

There is a hill (sliding) and running path on East Shore Drive and Larpenteur at Phalen. I would think that ittiz steep enough for a runner, or a slider to catch a thrill going down. Also outdoor attractions a plenty. Snowmobiling, cross country skiing, hockey, etc. We still think it might be Phalen. Waiting anxiously for clue #3.

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Bubba The Medallion magnet - 09:22pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1762 of 22130)

yeah matt chill...goto your expert site

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Treasure Digger - 09:22pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1763 of 22130)

Matt, take a chill pill. Maybe not everyone read prevous messages. I've been out for an hour or so. Not a lot of time to catch up on everyone's post. Will try to do better.

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Bubba The Medallion magnet - 09:22pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1764 of 22130)

yeah matt chill...goto your expert site

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Step - 09:23pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1765 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

MJ-I'm with you on that--I think it's phalen, too...

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Step - 09:24pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1766 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Matt is a loser!

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Bubba The Medallion magnet - 09:24pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1767 of 22130)

know for a fact that the park has never been given this early, so we need to chill on the fact that we know where it is, butr what is given this early is what contains the medallion..........any ideas

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emmy & hannah's mom - 09:24pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1768 of 22130)

<--------Click here for a picture of emmy & hannah!

Hey, MJ....I saw that hill, too. Could not tell if it was something that had been used or not. I drove around after work - hit Phalen, Battle Creek and Mounds. I really can't wait til another coupla clues come out....these first few are impossible!

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MJ - 09:25pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1769 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Step, where the hell were you!!!! I called out your name!!!!!

Said Hey Step!!!

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Treasure Digger - 09:25pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1770 of 22130)

Okay, so how small is the Fairway, Maryland, anyway. It's not on my new 99 Atlas which lists all the cities in the states? Any help?

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Step - 09:26pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1771 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

MJ--didn't have a chance to get out yet!! Sorry! You went tot check out phalen?

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MJ - 09:26pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1772 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Mom, we dug & dug!!! Had no proper outer clothing. Frozen bodies we were. My feeties are still frozen, and we quit just before 8:00, and I'm home now!!!

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MJ - 09:27pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1773 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

There were other diggers there too!!! Early at about 5:00 and then again when we went back.

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 09:27pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1774 of 22130)

Howdy Neighbor!

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Step - 09:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1775 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

MJ--like the carnival slogan....

No Time For Cold Feet!

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Treasure Digger - 09:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1776 of 22130)

HI! Jim-the-Freight-Train!!! Any noodling ideas?

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 09:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1777 of 22130)

Do you think its in a BOOT?

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Step - 09:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1778 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

There were diggers at phalen already?

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Eagle Eye - 09:29pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1779 of 22130)

TD: Does your atlas list all towns, townships, etc., also?

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Treasure Digger - 09:29pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1780 of 22130)

Okay, why a book, JTFT

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Treasure Digger - 09:29pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1781 of 22130)

Eagle Eye, let me check.

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 09:29pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1782 of 22130)

No BOOT.......

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Step - 09:30pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1783 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

why a boot, Jim?

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SNAKE - 09:30pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1784 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

ANYONE TALKED TO WINNABAGO BILL

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Treasure Digger - 09:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1785 of 22130)

Eagle Eye, counties, towns, and cities. Why?

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 09:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1786 of 22130)

Just a play on the no time for cold feet thing

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 09:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1787 of 22130)

Or maybe its hidden in a pair of those battery opperated socks?

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Step - 09:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1788 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

oh, could be! I think the slogan means something this year.

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MJ - 09:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1789 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Sorry Step, trying to slog two boards at the same time.

Yes there were diggers there. We've been fiddle farting around at many of the parks today. Highland, Como, etc. No lots were plowed like they were at Phalen.

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Cheryl Straight - 09:33pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1790 of 22130)

Hey guys..... Sorry I missed you at Pat McG's. I was in the "Forest" Reid said he saw a lot of you:>) I'm in the process of slogging my way bock to you.....

Do have some thoughts re Wright's Movies hunch......

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Matt - 09:33pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1791 of 22130)

<shakes 8 ball> -- Sources say, "Highland"

Hey, I'm a loser!

Anyway...

I apologize for having such high expectations for people who can use a computer. I'd figure that people who perhaps need an instillation of common sense might make this place a little better a place to converse in. Or, perhaps I'm wrong? People like reading the leaks of an ignorant person's mind? I don't care, I just figure that I might spark a revelation with people before they freak out all over a discussion with nothing real valuable to say. People who think I'm upset need to chill out no less than I do, too. :) I'm not mad. Just that this isn't a chatroom. I don't want to try to see it work that way.

-Matt

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Treasure Digger - 09:33pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1792 of 22130)

JTFT: I see. Maybe another sock idea. The "No time for cold feet" has also been tossed around about representing hockey and skiing.

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Step - 09:33pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1793 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

hmmm...interesting. And there IS a sledding hill?

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Eagle Eye - 09:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1794 of 22130)

TD: Cuz maybe its too small to be included in some atlases, like an unincorporated township or something. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 09:35pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1795 of 22130)

Maybe a hockey sock EH?

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Rojo Econ - 09:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1796 of 22130)

Como has the golf course of course, the snow board/ski bunny hill, and the hockey rinks (no time for cold feet); other than 2 years ago when was the last time the puck was at como?

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Treasure Digger - 09:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1797 of 22130)

Eagle Eye & Allison Wonderland, then those are good ideas to keep in mind. After all, they definitely make Phalen more of a spot than Highland. But then, Highland had the Ford Theatre idea being scene and don't get caught with the police station close by. We're all pretty much tossing around the same ideas until maybe tonight's 3rd clue.

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MJ - 09:37pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1799 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Matt, not everybody *thinks* the way you do. That's okay. I *do* understand what you're trying to say. And I too notice the same repetative posts, and it is boaring. Just boost yourself ahead. But please, please have a little more patience!!! I do with you. So, buddy, go easy!! We'll all get along much better!!

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Treasure Digger - 09:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1800 of 22130)

Okay, so what I gather from tonight's noodling is the following are the main parks that are possibilities: Highland, Phalen, Battle Creek, and Como. Are these correct?

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Step - 09:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1801 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

In any case, there's no event as foot-warming as the Pioneer Press Treasure Hunt, and no web site so well equipped to cover the hunt as this one.

This kind of stuck out to me...this is a section from the page where the clues are, and how they used "foot warming" made me wonder....

Maybe a warming shack?

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 09:40pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1802 of 22130)

Maybe Step

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Step - 09:40pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1803 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Allison--Is that your Fairway, Green theory you are talking about?

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Treasure Digger - 09:40pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1804 of 22130)

Step, huh???

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ticktock - 09:41pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1805 of 22130)

TD- take off the golf course parks-no way.

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Treasure Digger - 09:41pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1806 of 22130)

Ticktock, why take them off?

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 09:41pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1807 of 22130)

Personally I think the fairway green thing is true because they do not want people hacking up the golf course

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Step - 09:42pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1808 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

digger--I am just saying how I think the slogan for this year may mean something...

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MJ - 09:42pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1809 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Step, there is a hockey shack at Phalen. Didn't I see one on the south side, with a rink?

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Brian S - 09:42pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1810 of 22130)

I'd say take Como off the list. It was used too recently and the fact that they have that snow slide already taking place won't encourage them hiding it there. The last thing they probably want is some money hungry idiot going into the park in the middle of the night and digging up the slide thinking the medallion is inside. Remember people were crazy enough to dig up the mounds at mounds park.

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Step - 09:42pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1811 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

MJ--you in here?

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Right JTFT.

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Step - 09:43pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1813 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

MJ--you sure did!! Hockey rink and warming shack...

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Treasure Digger - 09:43pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1814 of 22130)

So the golf course reference means to stay clear of that area. Then, why post it in a clue unless there is a course near by or connected to the park it's hidden in.

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Step - 09:44pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1815 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Digger--exactly!!

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 09:44pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1816 of 22130)

Can the first couple of clues be that obvious for the location or are we overlooking something?

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MJ - 09:44pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1817 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Cool!!!! I too thought about the *warm feet* thing! Hmmmmmmm. Sounds like it might fly!!!

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Step - 09:46pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1818 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

MJ--so we have the warming shack, then the golf course, then the park, then the sledding hill....thats the order they go in at phalen...

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Eagle Eye - 09:46pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1819 of 22130)

Hey! Maybe we're supposed to "boot" up - and the treasure is posted on a website! I've heard of treasure hunts where they do that, and the finder has to come back to the main board and post the URL. I know someone who won a very nice prize that way!!!

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ticktock - 09:46pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1820 of 22130)

Just as the clue reads-'but a golf course is not'TD.

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 09:46pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1821 of 22130)

Is there a hockey rink at Phalen?

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Treasure Digger - 09:46pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1822 of 22130)

I have to believe that the medallion has been hidden for several weeks. The weather has been good this year to hide it early so the snow only hides it deeper. So if Como, even though I agree it's too early, is a possibility, then the medallion has already been hidden. Yes, the brainless hunters who were digging on the burial grounds at Mounds should be banned from all hunts now and future ones.

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Step - 09:47pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1823 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Jim--yes there is.

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 09:48pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1824 of 22130)

Thanks Step

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MJ - 09:49pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1825 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Step, is that your real email address??? Want to send you something!

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Step - 09:49pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1826 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Once the action, ahem, heats up, we'll post the latest clues right here, on the PioneerPlanet Winter Carnival page, and we'll do it every night at 11:30 sharp.

Look at this...another reference on the SAME page

"once the action 'heats up'"

I don't know.....

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Treasure Digger - 09:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1827 of 22130)

Ticktock, we should all realize that Mom would never, never hide it on a golf course. I believe that a golf course is near and should not be dug on no matter what the future clues lead us to believe. If you take off the parks with the golf courses near by, then it mainly leaves Battle Creek. Where does the references to scenes and not being caught connect? We've already established a skiing hill, etc. I'm just trying to keep my list up-to-date.

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Step - 09:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1828 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

MJ--yeah at school, but I'm not there now....

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ShovelMaster - 09:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1829 of 22130)

1998's "Shovel Boy"

Hey there. Yes of course they should, but how do we know who they are?

Let's just focus on Como for now as a group, unless something points us in a different direction. Then we will have a better chance of getting one of the water cooler people there, right? Stay clear of the Como Golf Course. Try the zoo, or the ampitheater.

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Step - 09:51pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1830 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Digger--who the hell is mom?

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MJ - 09:52pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1831 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Thanks Step! I'll ask you later. Mom the Digger is referring to is Mom Planet. PP.

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Cammando WAyne - 09:52pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1832 of 22130)

I think its the capital they are refering too

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Treasure Digger - 09:52pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1833 of 22130)

Sorry, Mom is the Pioneer Press.

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Step - 09:53pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1834 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

MJ--did you see the other "warm" reference I posted?

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 09:53pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1835 of 22130)

Why Cammando?

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MJ - 09:54pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1836 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Yes, it goes well.

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Treasure Digger - 09:54pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1837 of 22130)

Master, we are all part of the Water Cooler.

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Cammando WAyne - 09:54pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1838 of 22130)

I will set a blinding pace of search tomorrow.. Ill ask jesse to melt all the damn snow.

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Treasure Digger - 09:55pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1839 of 22130)

Commando, you make me laugh!!!

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ticktock - 09:56pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1840 of 22130)

TD - By Battle Creek park you have a ski jump south of Afton road or Battle Creek north of Afton Road has a ski hill, both east of Mcknight. I still think Mounds Park with sledding and Hollman airport.

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Step - 09:57pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1841 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

All battle Creek fits is the jump--there is no way it's there.

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Treasure Digger - 09:59pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1842 of 22130)

Ticktock, if the theory of not having the same park dug up two years in a row. People would be very upset if another year of digging is done there. I'm referring to Indian Mounds. Battle Creek - does it have anything to do with the other clue references?

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MJ - 10:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1843 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

We don't know Digger, what do *you* think????

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ticktock - 10:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1844 of 22130)

Step - There's the ski hill north of Afton in the Battle Creek park I'm thinking of by the Battle Creek school.

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Treasure Digger - 10:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1845 of 22130)

Divine Guidance time!! What are the main parks that everyone is thinking. One line answer to make it easy and fast (for Matt).

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Treasure Digger - 10:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1846 of 22130)

Highland

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Step - 10:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1847 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Battle Creek is last on my list...

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 10:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1848 of 22130)

Be nice Treasure Digger

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Treasure Digger - 10:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1849 of 22130)

Jim ... I'm being nice.

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Step - 10:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1850 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

Phalen

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SNAKE - 10:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1851 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

WHEN DOES THE CLUE COME OUT

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MJ - 10:02pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1852 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Digger, read #1843.

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Treasure Digger - 10:02pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1853 of 22130)

11:30 or 10 minutes later. The clock here is 10 minutes slow.

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Cammando WAyne - 10:02pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1854 of 22130)

I was talking to the this man i know will call him peter well peter says its at one of the out side parks I got a good deal on some very bright flares.. and Im gona take my lap top with me this has gone high tech....And....... Ahem I'm pumped!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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MJ - 10:03pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1855 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Yup Commando! You're hooked!!!

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Jim-the-Freight-Train - 10:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1856 of 22130)

Welcome to our nightmare Cammando

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Treasure Digger - 10:10pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1857 of 22130)

I've read 1843. My thoughts are "don't get too close to the action" is White Bear Ave. Bears and closeness don't mix. I'm really stretching here. I'm looking at two different maps at Battle Creek. Can't really tell where the park ends and begins. Can you help?

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Cammando WAyne - 10:10pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1858 of 22130)

Ive been looking sence i was a kid this year ive got maps and code a breaker on the team I will not fail !!!!!!!!!

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Treasure Digger - 10:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1859 of 22130)

How much do you want to bet that the next clue will have reference to "water". Now like that will really narrow it down for us.

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Philly n' Stephon - 10:14pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1860 of 22130)

Has, everyone basically gave up on Phalen?

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MJ - 10:15pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1861 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Where's Ian tonight???? He has the MapQuest connection! He can clue you in to a specific area you need Digger. Hope he gets here tonight!!!

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Treasure Digger - 10:20pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1862 of 22130)

Philly, no. Phalen is still very much in the picture. If the next clue says anything like "don't let the white shadow calm you like the flow of water" I'll just scream.

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Basic Dig - 10:20pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1864 of 22130)

Just wanted to clear up a few rumors I've been reading about Phalen in some of these quotes tonight. First--The parking lots at Phalen were plowed-out so the cross-country skiers form the King Boreas race on sunday would have somewhere to park. No other reason! Second--Phalen Golf was not damaged at all in the last treasure hunt at Phalen!! Third--PP never asks residents if it is ok to hide the medallion in their neighborhood park--especially a St. Paul park!!

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RVCrew-notawinnebago - 10:20pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1865 of 22130)

I think it's just telling you to stay off the golf course. They've never told us much more than the basics on the second clue. Why would they start now? For $10,000, you think they're going to make this easy?

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RVCrew-notawinnebago - 10:20pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1866 of 22130)

I think it's just telling you to stay off the golf course or public property. They've never told us much more than the basics on the second clue. Why would they start now? For $10,000, you think they're going to make this easy?

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RVCrew-notawinnebago - 10:24pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1867 of 22130)

Sorry about the repeats - kept getting nnothing, and then I got kicked off. So, Snake, think they're going to give us a run for the money?

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Philly n' Stephon - 10:24pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1868 of 22130)

Treasuer Digger... What do you mean by that? I and my roomy are first time hunters and we are really likeing this I feel this being one of those things I do every year.. Just kinda getting the hang of this.. Trying to figure out what everyone means when they say what they do..

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SNAKE - 10:26pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1869 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

I THINK ITS IN A SMALL PARK

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Treasure Digger - 10:27pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1870 of 22130)

Battle Creek has a McKnight (a knight on a white horse) and a Minnehaha Falls and Stillwater Blvd. It's just that they usually reference some type of water on the first clues which tell us nothing. Water is usually by most of the parks in St. Paul. That's all I meant. More confusion in the clues to come so that it's harder for us to figure them out.

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SNAKE - 10:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1871 of 22130)

1988 FINDER

THIS HUNT WILL GO THE DISTANCE

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Treasure Digger - 10:28pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1872 of 22130)

Jim-the-Freight-Train: Are you still out there?

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Birdie15 - 10:29pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1873 of 22130)

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Hey everyone, Birdie is back at the cooler. Don't rule out Cherokee again

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Golden Boy - 10:30pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1874 of 22130)

Golden Boy is looking for MarciRose - you out there??

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Treasure Digger - 10:30pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1875 of 22130)

Birdie, did you go dig at Cherokee?

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marci rose - 10:30pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1876 of 22130)

A couple of random thoughts:

Is the old ski jump still standing in Battle Creek Park?

Is the Ramsey County Workhouse in St Paul? What do you think Golden Boy?

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Birdie15 - 10:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1877 of 22130)

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Nope

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Treasure Digger - 10:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1878 of 22130)

Marci, I believe the answer to both of your questions is "yes"

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Birdie15 - 10:31pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1879 of 22130)

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Has anyone been out diggin? If so, where?

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Treasure Digger - 10:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1880 of 22130)

Someone said earlier that there were diggers at Phalen this evening.

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Treasure Digger - 10:32pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1881 of 22130)

Jim, are you out there?

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gold coat - 10:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1882 of 22130)

think the work house is techniclly in maplewood

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Golden Boy - 10:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1883 of 22130)

Hello Marci Rose - good to see ya. The ski jump is still there, but where is the work house?

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Step - 10:34pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1884 of 22130)

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the one in downtown ST PAUL????

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Golden Boy - 10:35pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1885 of 22130)

The Ramsey Cty Jail is on Kellogg - (ie; "wont get caught (clue #1))??

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gold coat - 10:35pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1886 of 22130)

sorry about the multiple postings, will try to be patient!!!

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MJ - 10:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1887 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Step, you're still here! I'm going to take a brain break and catch some Cheers. Will be back later for clue #3. TTFN

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Step - 10:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1888 of 22130)

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golden--that's in St. Paul...

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Birdie15 - 10:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1889 of 22130)

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This hunt really brings alot of people together, people of all ages. I sound like a commercial

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Virtual Medallion Hunter - 10:36pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1890 of 22130)

warming up the snowblower

I think its Mound Park.

1. Clue 2 using flying, not sleding or other. You can see the airport from mound park.

2. Clue 1 No golf course.

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Step - 10:38pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1891 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

It doesn't say NO golf course....It says STAY OFF the golf course.....

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Pat Pfundstein - 10:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1892 of 22130)

At least I'm housebroken

The first two clues are a Rorshach (spelling?) test. You will see in them whatever you want to see. The hints about staying off of golf courses and sliding hills are preventive medicine. Whoever asked why warn people off if there is no course around the site has either never done this before or forgets that hordes of people always dig in the wrong place in the face of all but direct statements in the clues. Focus in on a park now and you risk being a Frog Ponder.

That said, I believe it will be in one of the major parks, because the crowds drawn by the higher prize money would destroy a small park.

Therefore I insist that the medallion is at Newell. I just returned from digging around the tow rope area with no success, but it is just a matter of time!

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Treasure Digger - 10:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1893 of 22130)

I agree with you, Step. I don't understand the concept of "no" golf course but just to "stay off the green and fairways".

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Bob N apple - 10:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1894 of 22130)

What do you thing you dorks. Are the only loser's on this site? What is the matter you scare everybody away with your stupid pictures holding your medallion like it was your johnson!

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Ms. Milwaukee - 10:39pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1895 of 22130)

someone tell me how flying and an airport are popular attractions, I think a ski jump is more attracting

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Treasure Digger - 10:40pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1896 of 22130)

Bob, do you know Matt?

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Step - 10:40pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1897 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

man Pat, you're a psycho!

cool.

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Golden Boy - 10:41pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1898 of 22130)

I'll say this again - it is NOT at COMO, NOT PHALEN, NOT HIGHLAND because: 1) for $10K they wouldn't narrow it down to three parks on the VERY FIRST CLUE (ie; ref to golf course (#1)), and 2) if they don't want people digging up golf courses, why would they attract everyone to the only three parks WITH golf courses on the VERY FIRST CLUE - they'd be asking for trouble, and 3) part of the fun the PP has is send us in one direction early on, and then switch it later (ye 'ole bait & switch)...

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Step - 10:42pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1899 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

whatever--I'll be back at 11:30...later.

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Treasure Digger - 10:42pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1900 of 22130)

I hear you, Golden Boy. I kinda agree with you but still have to want the clues to lead to something real fast so I can start digging.

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Birdie15 - 10:43pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1901 of 22130)

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I don't think PP will narrow the parks down until the 5th-6th clues

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Bob N apple - 10:44pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1902 of 22130)

What do you think? where would you start if you were new at this?

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marci rose - 10:44pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1903 of 22130)

Golden Boy: Ramsey Co Workhouse is on Lower Afton & So Century Ave I believe. The boundary between St Paul & Maplewood is Century Ave, appears to me Workhouse is within St Paul.

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Cammando WAyne - 10:45pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1904 of 22130)

How about the big green chair at the bottom of the high bridge.

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Pat Pfundstein - 10:45pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1905 of 22130)

At least I'm housebroken

Step, I am sure this is my year. But if not I wish you and Nelly a boatload of luck!

Has anyone else had problems posting here? I got bounced off this page this afternoon, and the server ate this hilarious posting I wrote which would have sealed my fame as the funniest thing going. At least I would have laughed if I'd liked it. (Does Mom have lame sensing software?)

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Bob N apple - 10:46pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1906 of 22130)

No i don't know matt. Where is newell park?

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Golden Boy - 10:46pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1907 of 22130)

What I think the PP is doing is trying to make everyone think it is at one of the Major Parks to until about clue #8 to accomodate the large crowds - then switch it. Whoever said Newell might be onto something - look at the streets (ie; Taylor runs into Newell, Taylor was president in 1849 - 150 years ago)

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digby - 10:47pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1908 of 22130)

good call pat pfundstein newell hence forth nil clue #3

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Cammando, I was thinking that too!! also flying downhill could be go downhill to the bottom of the bridge

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Step - 10:47pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1910 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

where the hell is Newell????

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digby - 10:47pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1911 of 22130)

whrere abouts is newell park

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digby - 10:48pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1912 of 22130)

ill get my map

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Golden Boy------great analysis

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discmnkey - 10:49pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1914 of 22130)

Como - can't be the place tooooooo many activities are there this year! If it's Highland can't be where the old pool was cuz of the disc golf tournament being held there! Vikings are still our team even though we are relocated for awhile in "Dirty Bird" land. Miss Minnesota and still love Winter-Carnival, Buttons are registered!!!!

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Golden Boy - 10:49pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1915 of 22130)

Marci - you're right. Which is near Battle Creek.

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Bob N apple - 10:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1916 of 22130)

Where is that park? Newell park

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Birdie15 - 10:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1917 of 22130)

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downhill-----------down a well NEWELL?

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Basic Dig - 10:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1918 of 22130)

McKnight is the dividing line between Maplewood and St. Paul--Not Century!!

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Golden Boy - 10:50pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1919 of 22130)

Newell is off Pierce Butler, about 5 blocks west of Snelling.

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Step - 10:52pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1920 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

until they GIVE us some street clues--don't get your heart set on it.

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Cammando WAyne - 10:52pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1921 of 22130)

St,Anthony could be a possibility out lining it parameters has all the ame stuff and there is some thing sing nif fic cat about this year im sure of it past history will be a clue to look for.

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Bob N apple - 10:52pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1922 of 22130)

Anybody reading this where is newell park. Hay you with that map hurry up.Time is money waiting for me and a friend to collect. Ha Ha !!!

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Pat Pfundstein - 10:53pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1923 of 22130)

At least I'm housebroken

Newell Park is in the Hamline Midway area (just across the railyard from Midway Stadium). As I warned Step this afternoon it is a running gag for me (every year!) to claim the medallion is at Newell (it actually was around ten years ago). If it is this year, I would die of shock, but it is the closest city park to me so I dig there until the clues start to make sense, so I try to believe my own pathetic story, so I... Oh heck, you get it by now.

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Bob N apple - 10:53pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1924 of 22130)

Why do you think ST. Anthony?

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Basic Dig - 10:54pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1925 of 22130)

Century is not the dividing line between Maplewood and St. Paul--McKnight is!!

Last time treasure was at hidden falls "This is the start of something big" refered to Itasca St. which led us right to park--so he has in the past brought you to the park early.

If it's at phalen--there is plenty of areas to search for two weeks

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marci rose - 08:45am Feb 1, 1999 CST (#1926 of 22130)

Another random thought: IF it is at Battle Creek & IF the ski jump is still there, clue 2 could mean the ski jump is visible but not too close to the site.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 10:54pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1927 of 22130)

Allright newell corner of Fairview and Pierce Butler. Pop attractions nearby: Amtrak and state fairgrounds. One small, but long bumpy and fun sliding hill in one corner of park. big park, open park, very hard to pinpoint lots of diggin sounds good here

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Golden Boy - 10:55pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1929 of 22130)

Basic - you're right, the work house is in Ramsey Cty- not St. Paul. But is very close to Battle Creek Park - which IS in St. Paul.

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digby - 10:55pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1930 of 22130)

cant find it

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Treasure Digger - 10:57pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1931 of 22130)

Basic Dig, the something big reference was the beginning of the Mississippi River starts at Itasca Street.

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Pat Pfundstein - 10:57pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1932 of 22130)

At least I'm housebroken

If I strike myself on the head I could envisage a ski-jump at Newell. Right next to the tow-rope. Downhill is probably just sliding since a ski area narrows the scope far too fast.

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Bob N apple - 10:57pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1933 of 22130)

There is no golf course any where near battle creek. Just open fields' and baseball fields. etc.

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Birdie15 - 10:57pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1934 of 22130)

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Popular Outdoor Attraction------Saints Games at Midway Winning------saints baseball

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Cheryl Straight - 10:57pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1935 of 22130)

hey Pat, have you been to the "coolercrew.com" site? If so, how do you get to the previous years' clues?

Thanks.

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Golden Boy - 10:58pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1936 of 22130)

Just 30 minutes to go. My Sorels and Shovel are ready to go - you ready Marci?

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Bob N apple - 10:58pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1937 of 22130)

once again nice photo Pat OHJGHGFHGDrsgfdgrsre

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marci rose - 10:58pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1938 of 22130)

Basic Dig: Just looked at my map - thanks for setting me straight. Forget anything about Workhouse.

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Treasure Digger - 10:58pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1939 of 22130)

Bob Apple, just a thought from one hunter to another. Mom (Pioneer Press) does not appreciate certain language on the board. So I'd tone it down a bit. Heard of Joe Medallion?

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Bob N apple - 10:58pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1940 of 22130)

what

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Virtual Medallion Hunter - 10:59pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1941 of 22130)

warming up the snowblower

Howdy, I think clue two with flying has to mean in view of the airport

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Ms. Milwaukee - 10:59pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1942 of 22130)

hey pat, where is the tow rope at newell, I live on taylor and am familiar w/ park but can't picture tow rope

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Malicious Mals - 10:59pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1943 of 22130)

Hey Bob n Apple

I like your stuff!!!

You should check this page later and look for postimgs by green!!!

If you think the picture is bad wait till you see the stuff this thing spews forth!!!!

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Birdie15 - 10:59pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1944 of 22130)

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Caught------baseball-----Midway Stadium

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Bob N apple - 11:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1945 of 22130)

who cares. If your under 18 you should be in bed

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Pat Pfundstein - 11:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1946 of 22130)

At least I'm housebroken

Cheryl, I am not sure about the clues. In fact many people say I am without one! I'll check it out and come back.

Thanks Bob. The camera doesn't lie.

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Cheryl Straight - 11:00pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1947 of 22130)

hey birdie, there with you on the "caught" possibility....

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Terry Valentine - 11:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1948 of 22130)

Rehash Bash! Sunday, February 6 - In the park that the medallion is found. Pot luck picnic! Put the date on your calendar!

Hello! Cheryl!!!!!!!!!!!!! We missed you on Saturday!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great to see you here!!!!!

We just got back...about an hour ago....lots of slogging to do.

Went through Phalen and Highland. Both fit without much trouble. I'm looking forward to the 3rd clue. Hope it helps.

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spike - 11:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1949 of 22130)

St Anthony is in minneapolis

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Bob N apple - 11:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1950 of 22130)

well I'll be waiting M.MAls

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Cheryl Straight - 11:01pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1951 of 22130)

though not sure if it pinpoints newell... Just maybe a ball field....

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Golden Boy - 11:02pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1952 of 22130)

I second that birdie.

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Birdie15 - 11:02pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1953 of 22130)

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It's just a guess. I am trying to just throw things out here

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Treasure Digger - 11:02pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1954 of 22130)

Bob, I'm way over 18 but thanks anyway. It's all about hunting. The language can needs to be toned down. Joe Medallion was locked out of the cooler because of the language and the comments to other hunters.

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Terry Valentine - 11:02pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1955 of 22130)

Rehash Bash! Sunday, February 6 - In the park that the medallion is found. Pot luck picnic! Put the date on your calendar!

Cheryl...for previous clues go to the medallion link on the left side of the page. The years will be listed. Just click on the year you want to look at.

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MJ - 11:02pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1956 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Cheryl, when you get to the Cooler site, click on medallion and it will bring you to the page regarding the 1999 hunt is on. Just above that click on past hiding places. It will bring you to the previous clues.

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Ms. Milwaukee - 11:03pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1957 of 22130)

Spike, who said what about St. Anthony

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Birdie15 - 11:03pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1958 of 22130)

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What other streets are near Newell??

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gold coat - 11:03pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1959 of 22130)

we are still working on the word nil....nothing...nadda...fail...phalen

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Bob N apple - 11:03pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1960 of 22130)

where is everybody going to start tonight?

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Treasure Digger - 11:03pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1961 of 22130)

MJ, glad to see you're back. Not much has been said since you left.

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Pat Pfundstein - 11:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1962 of 22130)

At least I'm housebroken

Everything about Newell I report usually exists only in my mind. It is a very nice park with lots of trees, a building (where I vote), and a small ball field. The hills wouldn't excite anyone over the age of 10, though they are bigger than Pimple Hill on Englewood.

Regalman, if you see someone walking a nervous dog, make sure you say 'Hi'.

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MJ - 11:04pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1963 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Hi Terry!!! Glad you made it home in record time for the clue!!! LOL!!!

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Golden Boy - 11:05pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1964 of 22130)

Streets around Newell Park: Fairview (fairway & scene (#1)), Taylor Ave (Taylor was president in 1849 when the PP was founded). Also, I like birdie's "caught" ref to Midway Stadium....Hmmm

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Cheryl Straight - 11:05pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1965 of 22130)

Hi Terry, missed you guys too;>( Reid filled me in - I was in the "forest"

Thinking about (and I'm sure "reading" more into) the clues than is there.

Wright had mentioned something about a "movie" tie-in. Grumpy Old Men was filmed (house shots) near Phalon......

I haven't slogged through it all. Was looking for the link to past years' clues at the coolercrew.com site. Seems like last year's clues pinpointed the park fairly quickly.

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Malicious Mals - 11:05pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1966 of 22130)

Get ready to let em have it!!!

Prepare to get sick!!

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Pat Pfundstein - 11:06pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1967 of 22130)

At least I'm housebroken

Cheryl, try "http://www.coolercrew.com/medallion.html"

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The Geo Kid - 11:06pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1968 of 22130)

Taylor Ave. runs into Newell and, if I'm not mistaken, Zachary Taylor was the president in 1849-150 yrs ago. Hmmm.

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Cammando WAyne - 11:07pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1969 of 22130)

Fly ? Slide? Capital?

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digby - 11:07pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1970 of 22130)

what intersection is the stadium on anyone

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Birdie15 - 11:07pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1971 of 22130)

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The next clue might have to do with "being on the right track" that would lead everyone to Newell because of Amtrak and the railroad tracks. Maybe not though. Forget it I ahve NO CLUE

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digby - 11:08pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1972 of 22130)

think you got something good started pat pfan

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Golden Boy - 11:08pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1973 of 22130)

Any ideas Marci on Newell, BC, or Mounds

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MJ - 11:08pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1974 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Cheryl, it was my fellow Hunter who made the connection regarding the Grumpy(ier) Old Men connection. So we went out to Phalen to scope it out. There are several things that could be *fitting* for the clues, however.

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Birdie15 - 11:08pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1975 of 22130)

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Stadium-----Energy Park Drive

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Pat Pfundstein - 11:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1976 of 22130)

At least I'm housebroken

You people are nuts if you believe me. Be kind to my Park, I have to sleep now. Energy must be conserved for those late night digs that lie ahead (probably 5-7 days ahead).

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Step - 11:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1977 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

hey MJ!

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Terry Valentine - 11:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1978 of 22130)

Rehash Bash! Sunday, February 6 - In the park that the medallion is found. Pot luck picnic! Put the date on your calendar!

Pat - I live about 2 miles from Newell. If ittiz there, I'd eat my hat! LOL!!!!!!

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Bob N apple - 11:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1979 of 22130)

What you mad, just because your old, grey, and wrinkly doesn't mean you need to get mad. It's not my fault Swear's weren't used in the turn the century but it's the 90's back to reality with you. open your eyes take a look at what you have missed in the past 100 yrs.hAPPY TRAILS TO YOU.Have fun freezing you buns off looking in the wrong spot. Oh, My fault is buns alright for you :)

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Golden Boy - 11:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1980 of 22130)

Digby - Stadiun is on Energy Park Drive - no x-street.

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Birdie15 - 11:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1981 of 22130)

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wasting your time-----energy?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 11:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1982 of 22130)

Midway stadium is on energy park drive but I don't know if it is considered falcon heights or St. Paul? the tracks are a border for a lot of stuff. the fairgrounds are considered falcon heights and they are on the same ground, no tracks or anything separate them. However it is in view

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Mattykid - 11:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1983 of 22130)

I think the medallion is most likely at keller park!!!!

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digby - 11:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1984 of 22130)

thanks birdie

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MJ - 11:09pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1985 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Pat Pf, you're too funny!!!! Ignore him/her, they'll go away!!! LOL!!!

Hiya Step!!!

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Cammando WAyne - 11:10pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1986 of 22130)

thoughts about that sprit of 76 guy hendinberg

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Terry Valentine - 11:11pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1987 of 22130)

Rehash Bash! Sunday, February 6 - In the park that the medallion is found. Pot luck picnic! Put the date on your calendar!

Midway Stadium is in St. Paul. The Falcon Heights/St. Paul border on that end of town is Hoyt. The Mpls/St. Paul border is further west from the stadium.

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Pat Pfundstein - 11:11pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1988 of 22130)

At least I'm housebroken

Night all!

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Golden Boy - 11:11pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1989 of 22130)

Birdie you are a STAR!

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MJ - 11:12pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1990 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Nighty Pat Pf!!!

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Golden Boy - 11:12pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1991 of 22130)

Marci - are you still out there?

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spike - 11:12pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1992 of 22130)

wheres keller

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Birdie15 - 11:12pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1993 of 22130)

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A Star??

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Step - 11:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1994 of 22130)

It's Mine and Nelldog's This Year

keller is in maplewood

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Golden Boy - 11:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1995 of 22130)

Sorry - I'm showing my age

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MJ - 11:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1996 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Keller is in Maplewood. 61/36.

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Terry Valentine - 11:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1997 of 22130)

Rehash Bash! Sunday, February 6 - In the park that the medallion is found. Pot luck picnic! Put the date on your calendar!

Keller is in Maplewood....just north of Phalen.

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Mattykid - 11:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1998 of 22130)

Keller is right off of Highway 61..... I think thats what they mean by stay away from the action

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Birdie15 - 11:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#1999 of 22130)

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I feel this clue might only give us a hint of what the medallion is hidden in

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gold coat - 11:13pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#2000 of 22130)

nite pat..if its at newel we will all buy you drink!!!

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Bob N apple - 11:14pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#2001 of 22130)

Where would you go sliding at phalen? anyone suggestion's or hint's?

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Ms. Milwaukee - 11:14pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#2002 of 22130)

If this newell thing comes out to be true it is a going to be a bitch to find that little coin with that much open land

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Mattykid - 11:14pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#2003 of 22130)

Keller is just into St. Paul its been there before

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Birdie15 - 11:14pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#2004 of 22130)

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I got # 1999 My graduation year!! that is good luck from now on!!

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Mattykid - 11:15pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#2005 of 22130)

Hey birdie I got 1998 that was my grad year!!! sweet!!!

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Bob N apple - 11:16pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#2006 of 22130)

Keller isn't in st. paul it is in the city of maplewood.

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Mattykid - 11:16pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#2007 of 22130)

are you sure it is right by phalen?

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Axel - 11:17pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#2008 of 22130)

Clue No. 3:

Numbers keep score and adorn the front door Now do your best to figure these out A nine and a five and somewhere a four Get them right and you'll shout

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MJ - 11:17pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#2009 of 22130)

Of all the blossoms in life's garden, friendship is the most fragrant! -Anonymous

Clue No. 3:

Numbers keep score and adorn the front door Now do your best to figure these out A nine and a five and somewhere a four Get them right and you'll shout

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storm - 11:17pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#2010 of 22130)

Clue No. 3:

Numbers keep score and adorn the front door Now do your best to figure these out A nine and a five and somewhere a four Get them right and you'll shout

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ONE EYED WILLIE - 11:17pm Jan 25, 1999 CST (#2011 of 22130)

one eyed willie thinks its at phalen. hi barry

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