The Pioneer Press medallion has been found. Details are at our Winter Carnival page.
The hunt's over, but the discussion rages on ...
(1495 previous messages)greenslvs2 - 11:24pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1496 of 8457)
I was downtown today... I think the two domes are the Capitol and the Civic Center, and Mother Lode (metal-copper) is the Cathdral!!!!! 
hoosline - 11:25pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1497 of 8457)
peek a boo,i need the next clue
just show me a sneak so we can get to the peak. ryan quinn - 11:25pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1498 of 8457)
what exactly points so much to cherikee and mounds Loki - 11:25pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1499 of 8457)
Sanity - r u out there? Pat Pfundstein - 11:25pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1500 of 8457)
If you just don't know where to go
Here's a clue to aid your decision:
The medallion that promises lots of dough
Is near a line of double division.
(Deleted item originally posted by Loki on 11:25pm Jan 30, 1998 CST)The Clue Master - 11:26pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1502 of 8457)
That "will soon be back" in yesterdays clue might help for Como, Highland, or Cheokee. It's been 11 years since Mounds. I see a lot of cars blocking traffic down here. Fairly sensible crowd though. Casey Trauer - 11:27pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1503 of 8457)
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In #1486, The Clue Master said: Casey - Any ideas on the trivia question in #1385?
Answer: I'm afraid to know.
kct Wes Evans - 11:27pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1504 of 8457)
clue 7 SPEEWWWWW! ryan quinn - 11:27pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1505 of 8457)
the new clue is out, you think the "double vision" refers to the civic center and the capitol? The Clue Master - 11:28pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1506 of 8457)
Thanks Pat Pat Pfundstein - 11:28pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1507 of 8457)
Here is a possibility. The border of the west side is the border of St. Paul and of Ramsey County. A line of double division. Cherokee seems to have just gotten a boost. Or Newell!!!!! Iwantthattreasure - 11:28pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1508 of 8457)
here is my question WHAT DOES THE CLUE MEAN?????
Kevin Wold - 11:29pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1509 of 8457)
double-division? Any help? Wes Evans - 11:29pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1510 of 8457)
ryan, reread the clue, not vision... division Casey Trauer - 11:30pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1511 of 8457)
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His vision must be blurry. Like mine right now. Patrick Budion - 11:30pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1512 of 8457)
Talk to me, what do you get from this clue? ryan quinn - 11:31pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1513 of 8457)
ahhhh, thanx. i feel supid now! Medal Maniac - 11:31pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1514 of 8457)
aid your decision??? Pat Pfundstein - 11:31pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1515 of 8457)
I did talk. What do people think? ryan quinn - 11:33pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1516 of 8457)
what the hell is double division supposed to mean........any ideas? Medal Maniac - 11:34pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1517 of 8457)
aid your decision - could he be talking about the old St John's Hospital near Mounds? Red DOG - 11:34pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1518 of 8457)
Just got your message JayBird. Don't know where they went although he was talking about it. I hoping that you and o'll Yeller stay up all night and figure this next one out. I need another Black Label in order to decifer.
RedDOG greenslvs2 - 11:34pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1519 of 8457)
aid: help, assitance... dole ("lode" - Cathedral?)
dough: bakery???, two banks (One being First) Medallion Master - 11:34pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1520 of 8457)
Iam goining to get drunk that 's the only double vision Ill see.
linwood see you there.???????? ryan quinn - 11:35pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1521 of 8457)
so CASEY do they tell you where it is hidden? Pat Pfundstein - 11:35pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1522 of 8457)
Double division: The borders of both St. Paul and Ramsey County are one line near Cherokee Park. Does this make sense? Iwantthattreasure - 11:35pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1523 of 8457)
does anyone know what division the st. paul police are at the dept near highland???? Wright Winger - 11:35pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1524 of 8457)
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I like pats idea of a city border, which is near cherokee. Whoo hoo i said cherokee before the hunt even started! but dough, i just dont know. J - 11:35pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1525 of 8457)
RED DOG call me on land line. 1st time hunter - 11:36pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1526 of 8457)
Pat-- I thought the exact same thing about "double division" and Cherokee. That division is on Annapolis Street (city street). It's also right where kids go sledding at Cherokee--the only place kids sled there! I can't see how it could be anywhere else! jodespre - 11:36pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1527 of 8457)
At the tail end of Mounds park, right by the Kick-off bar the street divides into two, on one side leading you to the park...could have something to do with it???? Darren Dynkavitch - 11:37pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1528 of 8457)
Do you guys think it will be found on Sunday.??? Casey Trauer - 11:37pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1529 of 8457)
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Ryan Quinn says, "So CASEY do they tell you where it is hidden?"
Sorry. I am but a stable boy in this fox hunt.
kct LY JA - 11:38pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1530 of 8457)
DOUBLE DIVISION IS THE DIVISION OF W ST PAUL AND ST PAUL, DOUGH MEANS 1ST NATIONAL BANK mother dole - 11:38pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1531 of 8457)
it's so easy... Pat Pfundstein - 11:38pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1532 of 8457)
We're heading for Cherokee. Look for me in the Beret looking hat! Oops, I mean Newell of course! a little helper - 11:38pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1533 of 8457)
Since I am unable to go and look myself, I would like to let you guys know that Baldinger Bakery is right by Cherokee. Wright Winger - 11:38pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1534 of 8457)
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So we got the one part of the clue solved with the double division, but isnt there usally a seacond part to them? greenslvs2 - 11:38pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1535 of 8457)
It's Cherokee. Dough: in bread wrapper/platic bag? ryan quinn - 11:38pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1536 of 8457)
where is cherokee park...how do i get there from stillwater selma and patty - 11:39pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1537 of 8457)
we can't get the clue on here for some reason. Could someone give it to us? PLEASE!!! greenslvs2 - 11:40pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1538 of 8457)
I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE BAKERY!!! Go guys!!! I've no one to go with... else I'd be digging!!! (Plus have a cat show at Civic Center tomorrow...)
I WANNA DIG!!!! mother dole - 11:40pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1539 of 8457)
this park extends to an intersection that separates st. paul from west st. paul (N/S) and ALSO west st. paul from mendota heights (E/W) Shawnster Johnster - 11:41pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1540 of 8457)
I am unable to download clue 7 with my stupid browser.
Could some kind soul please type it in??? jodespre - 11:41pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1541 of 8457)
If you just don't know where to go
Here's a clue to aid you decision
The medallion that promises lots of dough
Is near a line of double division Wright Winger - 11:41pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1542 of 8457)
99 YEAR OF THE COOLER
Oh so the 1st national bank is the dough, but this is the fourth or so reference to that. What are they trying to tell us, i bet the employees at the bank would probally kick us out if we all ran in there with our digging stuff and demanded to make a withdrawl of a blue plastic medallion. ryan quinn - 11:42pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1543 of 8457)
If you just don't know where to go
Here's a clue to aid your decision:
The medallion that promises lots of dough
Is near a line of double division. Red DOG - 11:42pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1544 of 8457)
Dear Rayn you can't get to Cherokee from Stillwater gustav - 11:43pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1545 of 8457)
if you just don't know where to go
Here's a clue to aid your decision:
The medallion that promises lots of dough
Is near a line of double division Casey Trauer - 11:43pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1546 of 8457)
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Ryan Quinn says, "So CASEY do they tell you where it is hidden?"
Sorry. I am but a stable boy in this fox hunt.
kct Shawnster Johnster - 11:43pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1547 of 8457)
I am unable to download clue 7 with my stupid browser.
Could some kind soul please type it in??? Snowflake - 11:43pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1548 of 8457)
Dough may refer to Baker Street which runs into Cherokee Ave. in the park by trees and the tennis courts. The Clue Master - 11:43pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1549 of 8457)
I'm with Pat and 1st time Hunter. We finally got an answer to the ongoing question between Mounds and Cherokee. Hidden falls also 'falls' on the line, but a bit streched. scott james - 11:43pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1550 of 8457)
it is so easy, but we are still here typing at our nice WARM computers instead of braving the dark and the cold. we all hope that the devoted diggers won't find it and the medallion will still be there when we comfortably roll out of bed (hopefully late in the morning!!)
ok so i am really talking about myself. luck to you brave souls. a little helper - 11:43pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1551 of 8457)
Hit reload. Shawnster Johnster - 11:44pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1552 of 8457)
My stupid browser will not allow me to look at Clue #7.
Could some kind soul type it in for me? jodespre - 11:44pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1553 of 8457)
Everybody got the clue now??? Are we sure it's Cherokee? Wright Winger - 11:44pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1554 of 8457)
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So how come when i was cherokee earlier there wasnt a soal for miles? and now suddenly mounds becomes the barren frozen wasteland? but could there be anything more an the clue than dough=bank, division=border emmy & hannah's mom - 11:44pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1555 of 8457)
Pat, gotta like your thinking. It would be DOUBLE division since it is dividing two things (city, county) (((duh, now it sound so stupid))). Annapolis - another "city" street, how convenient.. Allie Go - 11:44pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1556 of 8457)
So it's in a cookie or bread....I found some of that already...Think I'll go back and see if there's more. a little helper - 11:45pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1557 of 8457)
I'm positive it is Cherokee. Allie Go - 11:45pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1558 of 8457)
No...dough is bakery goods. ryan quinn - 11:46pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1559 of 8457)
RED DOG what do you mean i cant get there from stillwater? why not? there has to be some way a little helper - 11:46pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1560 of 8457)
There is a bakery about 2 blocks from Cherokee. SueBee - 11:46pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1561 of 8457)
Shawnster, look at clue 1545. They typed the clue in. Red DOG - 11:47pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1562 of 8457)
Sorry Ryan the brige is out Iwantthattreasure - 11:47pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1563 of 8457)
so everybody agrees it's atCherokee??
Terry Valentine - 11:48pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1564 of 8457)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!
We were out scouting parks tonight. Highland is out but a couple people digging. Mounds is out though there were quite a few people digging. Cherokee is definately it - especially with this last clue. Hardly anyone there earlier. I bet that's changed! foolsbee - 11:48pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1565 of 8457)
it was just at cherokee, are we sure we want to go there, aid- there is a hospital at mounds Shawnster Johnster - 11:48pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1566 of 8457)
Suebee: thanx! Wes Evans - 11:48pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1567 of 8457)
no, could be anywhere... SueBee - 11:48pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1568 of 8457)
Oops, I mean message 1545. I was a Mounds fan before, now I'm thinking Cherokee. ryan quinn - 11:48pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1569 of 8457)
what bridge? hoosline - 11:48pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1570 of 8457)
cherokee park it is doodledog - 11:48pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1571 of 8457)
RE double division: OK, but mounds (we're talking indian mounds, there is also a mounds, but that's not it) borders on both south st paul and west st paul. I also think the large object in view that will guide you refers to the aircraft radio tower at indian mounds (used to guide planes to holman). As for "Mother Lode": Combine that with rosebud to get mama rosa as a container. But I still like the idea of rosebud as a reference to larry hodgson's memorial at como.
What is the elevation of cherokee? Indian mounds has an elevation marker.
Enough about clues, to me the best part of the hunt each year is being out in the field and having people ask you stupid questions. What are your favorites? Here are mine, with my answers:
So, you think it's over here, eh? No, but I got tired of digging over there.
Found anything yet? Yeah, I found it two hours ago, but I love digging in 40 below weather so much, I just kept at it.
Are you looking for the medallion? No, I lost my poodle in a snowbank. mother dole - 11:50pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1572 of 8457)
anyway, ryan, only ramsey county residents are eligible to collect the prize money... so even if you could get there from stillwater, it wouldn't do any good SueBee - 11:51pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1573 of 8457)
Ryan, Cherokee is across the High Bridge. Can you get yourself to downtown St. Paul? If so, take 7th to Smith and you'll be at the High Bridge. Cherokee is just across the bridge on the West St. Paul side. Allie Go - 11:51pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1574 of 8457)
Where is Cherokee...if I look on my Hudson Map...what street? Wes Evans - 11:51pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1575 of 8457)
you all are too much!! LOL :o) jodespre - 11:52pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1576 of 8457)
Thanks for the humor Doodledog! Wright Winger - 11:52pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1577 of 8457)
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Do ya think I should run down there now? or do ya think itll still be there in the afternoon? ps why is cherokee filled with tire tracks? all i know is its makes it easier to walk though SueBee - 11:52pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1578 of 8457)
We're here to help each other out, not exclude anyone. Terry Valentine - 11:52pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1579 of 8457)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!
For doodledog, Cherokee is directly across the HIGH bridge. Don't know the elevation but it is high ground, Jake836 - 11:53pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1580 of 8457)
Sorry, we just got on the net and we missed the clue can someone type it in for us?? Thanks Allie Go - 11:53pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1581 of 8457)
You're right about the comments, Doodle. I always laugh at the question: "Any luck?" ryan quinn - 11:53pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1582 of 8457)
live in sorth st. paul, but i am in stillwater at a friends house SueBee - 11:54pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1583 of 8457)
Does anyone else think the word "track" in clue 6 was just a rhymer for stack? I wonder if RR tracks have nothing to do with it. a little helper - 11:55pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1584 of 8457)
there are train tracks right by cherokee. can't miss em. SueBee - 11:55pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1585 of 8457)
Jake, check out message 1545. It's there a couple of times. Allie Go - 11:55pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1586 of 8457)
If you just don't know where to go, Her's a clue to aid your decision: The medallion that promises lots of dough Is near a line of double division. Patrick Budion - 11:55pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1587 of 8457)
If you just don't know where to go
Here's a clue to aid your decision:
The medallion that promises lots of dough
Is near a line of double division mother dole - 11:55pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1588 of 8457)
ryan, is so. st. paul in ramsey county? Dale Gormanson - 11:56pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1589 of 8457)
A rosebud pastry would be a good thing to savor in Cherokee. Just don't go into Lilydale....duke ryan quinn - 11:56pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1590 of 8457)
this might be way off, but do you think double division might refer to RR tracks? Beavis - 11:56pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1591 of 8457)
Maybe its at Jurassic Park... mother dole - 11:56pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1592 of 8457)
jake, that's ok, a lot of people that were here missed the clue :) emmy & hannah's mom - 11:56pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1593 of 8457)
Just an FYI., I'm sure Mounds is out. Doodle, Mounds borders absolutely nothing. Miles from WSP or SSP. jodespre - 11:56pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1594 of 8457)
Can also see tracks from Mounds...I'm still in favor of Mounds. (Though, sitting at my computer doesn't accomplish anything...its cold and dark though....brrrrrrr!) doodledog - 11:56pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1595 of 8457)
there are train tracks, woods, water, and places where kids go zoom, all over st paul, not to mention that seven hills provide a lot of high ground! greenslvs2 - 11:57pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1596 of 8457)
LMAO, Bevis!!!! Too funny!!!!! selma and patty - 11:57pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1597 of 8457)
You guys are all off TRACK. Hasn't anybody heard of Dome Park right off Division Street? SueBee - 11:58pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1598 of 8457)
It doesn't seem as if clue 7 helped out much. It makes Cherokee look pretty inviting, but it's not certain. Hmmm a little helper - 11:58pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1599 of 8457)
In two, it talks about water and woods in the neighborhood, both of those streets are in the neighbor hood of cherokee ryan quinn - 11:58pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1600 of 8457)
dont know about south st paul, but i know north st. paul is Jake836 - 11:59pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1601 of 8457)
Sorry we just logged on and we missed the clue. Can anyone help us out??? please repeat the clue for us stupid idiots here!! SueBee - 11:59pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1602 of 8457)
Selma, where is Dome Park and Division street? I've never heard of it. mother dole - 11:59pm Jan 30, 1998 CST (#1603 of 8457)
there are two streets, COlorado runs east/west, DElaware runs north/south. They don't actually intersect, but if they are extended to their intersection point, there is a place of double division there
CO. + DE. == code?
(Deleted item originally posted by Iwantthattreasure on 11:59pm Jan 30, 1998 CST)ryan quinn - 12:00am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1605 of 8457)
If you just don't know where to go
Here's a clue to aid your decision:
The medallion that promises lots of dough
Is near a line of double division. Shawnster Johnster - 12:00am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1606 of 8457)
Directions from Stillwater:
Take 36 west to Hwy 35E. Take 35E south to the Wacouta exit. Go straight to 7th street, take a right. Travel west to Smith. Take a left, go across the river. The park is RIGHT THERE immediately on theother side of the river Medallion Master - 12:00am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1607 of 8457)
HEY DUKEY ARE YOU THE PUKIE FROM LONGFELLOW?????? SueBee - 12:01am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1608 of 8457)
Jake, clue 7 is typed in in message 1586 and 1545 mother dole - 12:01am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1609 of 8457)
used to go sliding at dome park.... boy, i hadn't thought of thoses days in years! thanx selma and patty Snowflake - 12:02am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1610 of 8457)
If anyone out there has the Treasure Hunter's Guide, just read and check out Swede Hollow Park - lots of similarities. What do you think?
The new clue does lend itself to Cherokee - Swede Hollow fits the clues also! SueBee - 12:02am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1611 of 8457)
and now in message 1605, jake. Got it now? ryan quinn - 12:02am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1612 of 8457)
shawnster, u are talking about cherokee right? mr.hunter - 12:02am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1613 of 8457)
could double vision mean just that, double vision of some sort? any suggestions? SueBee - 12:02am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1614 of 8457)
Help! Where is Dome park???? selma and patty - 12:03am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1615 of 8457)
Division is on the Maplewood St.Paul border and the park is right off GOODRICH. The Dome by Aldrich Arena SueBee - 12:03am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1616 of 8457)
Ryan, yes, Shawnster's directions are to Cherokee ryan quinn - 12:03am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1617 of 8457)
would like to know where dome park is too Shawnster Johnster - 12:03am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1618 of 8457)
Snowflake: We checked Swede hollow park! Welcome to the club!
How does the double division get explained? mother dole - 12:03am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1619 of 8457)
ottawa and winona are also cities/streets in the area jodespre - 12:03am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1620 of 8457)
Double division....not vision... Medallion Master - 12:04am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1621 of 8457)
DUKE forget get the rosebud just give me the BUD!!!!!!!! Jake836 - 12:04am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1622 of 8457)
Thanks ryan quinn!! you're a lifesaver!!! see you at the hunt.. SueBee - 12:04am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1623 of 8457)
Would you say that Dome park is high ground? Is there a smoke stack visible from there? Is there a playground? Shawnster Johnster - 12:04am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1624 of 8457)
Snowflake: We checked Swede hollow park! Welcome to the club!
How does the double division get explained? Steve Palmer - 12:05am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1625 of 8457)
Anyone ever see the movie "Citizen Kane"? Shawnster Johnster - 12:05am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1626 of 8457)
Snowflake: We checked Swede hollow park! Welcome to the club!
How does the double division get explained? The Clue Master - 12:06am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1627 of 8457)
Allie - 2B on Map 81... Ryan - Mother is messin' wicha... Mother - Good Job... Doodle Bug - Is that the Mama Rose brand macaroni people are talking about? If so it's nice to see the first connection between the 'Mother Lode' and 'Rosebud' spelled out. I'm still a firm beliver on the brand name of sleds being 'Rosebud', but I never knew how they made the pasta connection. Never herd of Mama Rose. ryan quinn - 12:06am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1628 of 8457)
what would double division have to do with dome park? i know the is a division st. but that is on the other side of the city selma and patty - 12:07am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1629 of 8457)
The smoke stack is by the old Poor Farm. pam frisk - 12:07am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1630 of 8457)
hey mary i suppose your out looking well you have to look way back at around 4;15
for my 1st message. SueBee - 12:07am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1631 of 8457)
Steve, if you're refering to the "Rosebud" in clue 3, yes, the Citizen Cane explanation has been out there for a long time. Some still don't think it refers to a sledding hill, but I sure do. Shawnster Johnster - 12:07am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1632 of 8457)
(sorry I think my browser is acting up. I only sent that once!)
I think Dome park is in Maplewood. Aldrich Areana sure is. Is
Dome park south of that? mother dole - 12:08am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1633 of 8457)
steve, i saw it... but i liked titanic a lot more, gotta say. makes ya wanna get into the news business though selma and patty - 12:08am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1634 of 8457)
The smoke stack is by the old Poor Farm. Vicki Burnett - 12:09am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1635 of 8457)
double division? What the hell? doodledog - 12:10am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1636 of 8457)
As I pour myself another stoly, I once again think back to what makes this entire endevor worthwhile. Specifically, making others more miserable that you are.
I remember a few years ago when I was feverishly digging around a baseline in a highland ballfield. A group of guys were standing around talking about how "I was 20 feet from the guy who found it last year" etc. Finally, I stood up and said, "are you guys going to dig, or just stand there and talk?" The next day, I was looking for a good place to dig, when one of those guys said "hey, are you going to just walk around, or are you going to dig?". Within the hour, the same fellow found the medallion. And, I might add, I was no more than 20 feet from him. foolsbee - 12:10am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1637 of 8457)
what ideas do we have about "double division"? i was at cherokee today, doesn't seem to fit, mounds seems the best i think. i didn't see a good place for kids to zoom at CK, i like the word "aid" and the hospital at thorn and earl street at mounds Beavis - 12:10am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1638 of 8457)
does North St. Paul count? ryan quinn - 12:10am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1639 of 8457)
yes it is kind of south east, there is a play ground too, i wouldnt call it high ground though, and i dont think there is a smokstack neerby either doodledog - 12:10am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1640 of 8457)
As I pour myself another stoly, I once again think back to what makes this entire endevor worthwhile. Specifically, making others more miserable that you are.
I remember a few years ago when I was feverishly digging around a baseline in a highland ballfield. A group of guys were standing around talking about how "I was 20 feet from the guy who found it last year" etc. Finally, I stood up and said, "are you guys going to dig, or just stand there and talk?" The next day, I was looking for a good place to dig, when one of those guys said "hey, are you going to just walk around, or are you going to dig?". Within the hour, the same fellow found the medallion. And, I might add, I was no more than 20 feet from him. SueBee - 12:10am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1641 of 8457)
Vicki, some are saying that Cherokee is on the line between St. Paul and West St. Paul, and also the border of Ramsey county - "double" division. Seems to make sense Allie Go - 12:11am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1642 of 8457)
Clue Master -- Wow, thanks for the efficient response! selma and patty - 12:11am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1643 of 8457)
Dome Park is South of Aldrich and the division is the divisionst. and the division of St. Paul and Maplewood. You can see the Dome because part of the park is on a hill Shawnster Johnster - 12:11am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1644 of 8457)
Dome park would explain the "dome" clue.
Can you see the capital from cherokee?? I would assume so. doodledog - 12:11am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1645 of 8457)
As I pour myself another stoly, I once again think back to what makes this entire endevor worthwhile. Specifically, making others more miserable that you are.
I remember a few years ago when I was feverishly digging around a baseline in a highland ballfield. A group of guys were standing around talking about how "I was 20 feet from the guy who found it last year" etc. Finally, I stood up and said, "are you guys going to dig, or just stand there and talk?" The next day, I was looking for a good place to dig, when one of those guys said "hey, are you going to just walk around, or are you going to dig?". Within the hour, the same fellow found the medallion. And, I might add, I was no more than 20 feet from him. MJ Frog - 12:11am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1646 of 8457)
What The Hell<Does This Guy Take Medalians Before
He Gives The Clue$$$$$$ greenslvs2 - 12:11am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1647 of 8457)
Clue Master:
Mother Lode is the Cathderal (lode-copper top; Mother Mary). The "domes) are Civic Center (I *think*/am thinking) and Capitol. ryan quinn - 12:12am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1648 of 8457)
north st paul count for what? Alex Moy - 12:12am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1649 of 8457)
As I've said from the begining, it is at Cherokee. This clue places it's location close to the Ramsey-Dakota and St. Paul-Lilydale border.
If you take water street you will get closer to it's location. When the medallion was last a Cherokee they also made references to the NSP smokestacks that are visible. I'm pretty sure it's high elevation allows you do see downtown (including the capitol or 1st national bank). SueBee - 12:13am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1650 of 8457)
Ryan, then I'd probably rule Dome park out. The idea of it being a small park since the exact park is still not pinpointed is a good one, although, like I keep saying, Cherokee is sounding better and better... Medallion Master - 12:13am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1651 of 8457)
hey what about phalen maplewood realy got pissed off when they
hid it in sleeping grass ? park. they tore it up. Shawnster Johnster - 12:13am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1652 of 8457)
I think everyone is in their cars right now.... ;) greenslvs2 - 12:13am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1653 of 8457)
Also, there's a sign on the front of the Civic Center telling about the new hockey team... "soon be back", in addition to being back in Cherokee.
(Deleted item originally posted by doodledog on 12:13am Jan 31, 1998 CST)Vicki Burnett - 12:14am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1655 of 8457)
hello Mother moco! Good to see you...went to cherokee park tonight...was really tore up already....
(Deleted item originally posted by The Clue Master on 12:14am Jan 31, 1998 CST)Shawnster Johnster - 12:14am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1657 of 8457)
SueBee: thank you for your kindness. a little helper - 12:14am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1658 of 8457)
No North St. Paul doesn't count because that is known as a suburb ryan quinn - 12:15am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1659 of 8457)
agree that cherokee is looking better and better, but im not gonna rule out dome park, im probly gonna look there thoughcuz i live less than a mile from there. Shawnster Johnster - 12:15am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1660 of 8457)
Cluemaster: Uhhhh... where is "rosebud" park? that's worth looking
into.... SueBee - 12:16am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1661 of 8457)
Greenslvs2, most think the domes are the Capitol and the Cathedral. THe number one or first has been mentioned more than once too and probably refers to the 1st national bank building downtown. Snowflake - 12:16am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1662 of 8457)
Shawnster - maybe the double division means the split between East 7th Street and West 7th Street. But we are still heading out tomorrow to Cherokee! Good luck. ryan quinn - 12:16am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1663 of 8457)
there are two softball fields at dome park, could that have anything to do with it? Wes Evans - 12:16am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1664 of 8457)
Where does Divsion St. run through the city of St. Paul, I only see it in other cities like maplewood etc.??? Shawnster Johnster - 12:16am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1665 of 8457)
Cluemaster: Uhhhh... where is "rosebud" park? that's worth looking
into.... Vicki Burnett - 12:17am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1666 of 8457)
I can't see my name...."doh" Allie Go - 12:17am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1667 of 8457)
SueBee...I don't see the border of Ramsey County at Cherokee. ryan quinn - 12:18am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1668 of 8457)
follow division st south and i think it goes to st paul, not sure though. are u looking for dome park? a little helper - 12:18am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1669 of 8457)
Ramsey county and Dakota county, right by there, just look a littel south. Allie Go - 12:19am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1670 of 8457)
Oh, now I see it...at the farthest south end of Cherokee. Wes Evans - 12:19am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1671 of 8457)
allie, w. st. paul and Mendota heights are in Dakota co., I think... SueBee - 12:19am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1672 of 8457)
Allie, that's what the discussion was saying.. I don't have my Hudson's in front of me. Maybe I'm wrong. I guess it could be anything. Ahhrrrg! j warndahl - 12:20am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1673 of 8457)
the treasure is located in phalen park near the forth parking lot!! Shawnster Johnster - 12:20am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1674 of 8457)
(please forgive me, my bloody browser resubmits every time I refresh) selma and patty - 12:20am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1675 of 8457)
Hey Ryan are you talking about the soft ball fields that are divided by the railroad tracks? jodespre - 12:20am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1676 of 8457)
For you Mounds fans...how could clue 7 apply? mother dole - 12:20am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1677 of 8457)
hi vicki, i was at cherokee this afternoon... big place though :) Phantm - 12:21am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1678 of 8457)
What's this "dome" clue? Terry Valentine - 12:21am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1679 of 8457)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!
West St. Paul and Mendota Heights are in Dakota county - for sure. greenslvs2 - 12:21am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1680 of 8457)
SueB: No probable. First Bank it is. And it's Cherokee!!! I WANNA DIG!!!!! SueBee - 12:21am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1681 of 8457)
Well, I gotta get up early tomorrow. Does anyone know where Harding High is? I have to be there at 9am and I'm not sure where it is.. ryan quinn - 12:21am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1682 of 8457)
why phalenand why in the 4th parking lot? Shawnster Johnster - 12:21am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1683 of 8457)
j warndahl: I think you are right. Go ahead and look there. jodespre - 12:22am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1684 of 8457)
SueBee...Harding is on 3rd Street, between Johnson Parkway and White Bear Avenue. Terry Valentine - 12:22am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1685 of 8457)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!
mode and demo unscrambled provides for two domes. I think one is the Cathedral the other is the capitol. mother dole - 12:22am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1686 of 8457)
selma, is there a frog pond in dome park? Allie Go - 12:22am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1687 of 8457)
Okay...can anyone attempt to make the clues fit at Cherokee? I haven't considered that park up until now. I've never been there either. SueBee - 12:23am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1688 of 8457)
Green, oops, so right. First bank. You know what I mean.. the big red 1 on the building downtown. I wanna dig too, but too tired tonight. Hope it stays hidden till I find it tomorrow! :-) ryan quinn - 12:23am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1689 of 8457)
no, im talking about the fields at dome park, now that i think about it ...there arent any RR tracks arround, i dont think anyway foolsbee - 12:23am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1690 of 8457)
JODY im a mounds fan, not quite sure about this clue about the double division. i like the word aid though as there is a hospital at earl and thorn sts. SueBee - 12:23am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1691 of 8457)
Thanks Jody! I appreciate the directions! Shawnster Johnster - 12:24am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1692 of 8457)
SueBee: Harding is right off of third street and germain
or 6th street and germain. eas side. 94 to White bear ave north
to 3rd street west to germain north to 6th street west. Right
there will be the arena (I assume that is your destiantion) Alex Moy - 12:24am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1693 of 8457)
There is a set of RR tracks that splits in Cherokee. One set goes toward the NSP stack and one goes off to the left. It should be where the tracks cross water street. BTW I am 1170 miles away, so I'm only trying to help you guys. SueBee - 12:24am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1694 of 8457)
G'nite all. Happy hunting! zzzzz
(Deleted item originally posted by The Clue Master on 12:24am Jan 31, 1998 CST)Michael Kasal - 12:25am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1696 of 8457)
What is double division? LY JA - 12:25am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1697 of 8457)
wHAT ABOUT BAKER PARK OR ARLINGTON PARK THAT IS ON ROSE STREET Shawnster Johnster - 12:25am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1698 of 8457)
SueBee: Harding is right off of third street and germain
or 6th street and germain. eas side. 94 to White bear ave north
to 3rd street west to germain north to 6th street west. Right
there will be the arena (I assume that is your destiantion)
(Deleted item originally posted by Shawnster Johnster on 12:26am Jan 31, 1998 CST)
(Deleted item originally posted by Shawnster Johnster on 12:26am Jan 31, 1998 CST)jodespre - 12:26am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1701 of 8457)
That used to be a hospital...I believe it's an old folks home now. Double division...the only reference I can come up with is where the road divides near the KickOff Bar... Medallion Master - 12:27am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1702 of 8457)
SOMEBODY PBR ME FAST!!!!!!!!!! doodledog - 12:27am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1703 of 8457)
I know it's late, but where has the romance gone? You all seem so focused on the monetary prize....But remember -- the hunt's the thing! Michael Kasal - 12:28am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1704 of 8457)
I don't think you could rule out the number four. Say you take the #20 and divide it by two...than divide that by two...you get the number five....would that be double division??
(Deleted item originally posted by doodledog on 12:28am Jan 31, 1998 CST)foolsbee - 12:28am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1706 of 8457)
what does the majority think about the park? SueBee - 12:28am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1707 of 8457)
Shawn - dont' hit refresh when yours it the last posted message. Wait and hit the recent button instead.
ClueMaster - it was in a Curad band-aid box last year. Doubt they'd do it again. MJ Frog - 12:29am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1708 of 8457)
HAS ANYbody THOUGHT of THE two OPEN shelters
AT MOUNDS park as BEING THE DOMES? The Clue Master - 12:29am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1709 of 8457)
Are you heading out doodledog? I think I might do a drive by up at Cherokee. MJ Frog - 12:30am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1710 of 8457)
Well Michael Kasal - 12:30am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1711 of 8457)
or it could be where there is a two way road = and you come along a place where the road divides.... MJ Frog - 12:30am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1712 of 8457)
HAS ANYbody THOUGHT of THE two OPEN shelters
AT MOUNDS park as BEING THE DOMES? Shawnster Johnster - 12:30am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1713 of 8457)
Advanced fans: WHERE in Cherokee park? That place is twice as big as Mounds. I'm thinking right at the north shore of Pikerel Lake, between the tracks. Anybody? Wes Evans - 12:30am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1714 of 8457)
can't say I have frog... mother dole - 12:31am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1715 of 8457)
to all mounds fans: cherokee rules, i'll give you 5:1 odds we win this baby. earl can't throw for diddly compared to our man smith. you'll see, you domeheads! Terry Valentine - 12:31am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1716 of 8457)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!
Seems like some of us are reaching too far! LY JA - 12:32am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1717 of 8457)
Has anyone heard of Baker Park? doodledog - 12:32am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1718 of 8457)
To the clue master:
I don't think that's what anyone had in mind. But I heartfully appreciate the suggestion. Medallion Master - 12:32am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1719 of 8457)
DUKE WHERE ARE YOU !!!!!!! Michael Kasal - 12:32am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1720 of 8457)
What's up with the word "dough"?
(Deleted item originally posted by doodledog on 12:32am Jan 31, 1998 CST)Alex Moy - 12:33am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1722 of 8457)
Shawnster: that is what I was trying to say! You are going to be the one to find it since you listened to me! Good Luck Shawnster Johnster - 12:33am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1723 of 8457)
(thanx for the tip)
Or maybe North shore of Pickerel, but to the west
by Water Street. The Clue Master - 12:33am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1724 of 8457)
Thanks SueBee.. I knew it sounded familiar. Long day at work I guess. I will delete that to save face. I have a huge stack of info surrounding me from past years and included is what the coin was found in since '52. Embarrassed a bit I guess. ryan quinn - 12:33am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1725 of 8457)
has anyone actually been out to dome park? Michael Kasal - 12:34am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1726 of 8457)
Digging far is what makes it fun...all the possibilities... mother dole - 12:34am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1727 of 8457)
is the (theoretical) intersection of COlorado (CO) and DElaware (DE) streets (CO+DE=code) considered to be in the confines of cherokee pk? if so, someone should check it out! is ryan still here? Shawnster Johnster - 12:35am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1728 of 8457)
dough: someone said a bakery bordering Cherokee? else it just rhymes with "go" and we read too much into it (like most do on most years) MJ Frog - 12:36am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1729 of 8457)
Well Get That Frog Out From Under The Log
Just Go Out And Walk The Dog,Look Under Logs,
Even In The Pollywog,That is Where The Treasure
IS,Its Only One Great Big Fog. HaHa Michael Kasal - 12:36am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1730 of 8457)
code edoc doec coed deco ecod hmmm...nope... Alex Moy - 12:37am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1731 of 8457)
There is a small triangle shaped block formed where Joy ave comes off of Water street. That would be my first guess. ryan quinn - 12:37am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1732 of 8457)
yeah im still here Shawnster Johnster - 12:37am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1733 of 8457)
I just saw that cherokee hts blvd runs into Baker street. ???
Alex, it's just you and me I guesss.... LY JA - 12:39am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1734 of 8457)
There is a Baker Park on 209 w Page right on the boarder of st paul and w st paul baker -- dough Shawnster Johnster - 12:39am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1735 of 8457)
Alex: Hmmm...the pleasure clue you say?
Can't find "joy" on the map. is ib by laval? plato? the "track split? ryan quinn - 12:40am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1736 of 8457)
why do you want to know mother moco The Clue Master - 12:40am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1737 of 8457)
Mother - Colorado is at the north end of the park running e/w, and Delaware is at the south end running n/s. They don't intersect. Colorado doesn't even run into the park. It's actually a few blocks off. Hope it helps. j warndahl - 12:40am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1738 of 8457)
alex your on this thing MJ Frog - 12:41am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1739 of 8457)
Oh No MJ Frog Is Still Watchihg This Medalian Hog Josh J. Zenner - 12:42am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1740 of 8457)
It us really starting to look like Cherokee "dough" possibly Baker Street right by Cherokee park Alex Moy - 12:42am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1741 of 8457)
Baker street is listed on my map but isn't shown. Strange. It may be just on the Dakota county side. In that case you can scrap your idea. mother dole - 12:42am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1742 of 8457)
yes, but extend colorado and delaware to the point that they WOULD intersect! isn't that in cherokee? ryan should go check it out ryan quinn - 12:42am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1743 of 8457)
clue master, she said the THEORETICAL intersection, it was brought up a while ago that if they continued they would intersect MJ Frog - 12:42am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1744 of 8457)
Hes A Creep
That Has No Peep
I Cant Wait To Find His Keep Terry Valentine - 12:43am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1745 of 8457)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!
See you all at Cherokee! Time to ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz. Medallion Master - 12:43am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1746 of 8457)
WALK THE LINE IIT'S ABOUT TIME CHECK OUT BEAVER LAKE
IF THE MEDALLION 'S NOT THERE THE BEAVER ARE.
(WARD NOT TO HARD ON THE BEAVER)?????????? kgb - 12:43am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1747 of 8457)
MOUNDS BETWEEN THE HOSPITAL(AID) AND THE PLAYGROUND BUT WHAT ABOUT
DOUBLE DIVISON AT MOUNDS , A MOUNDS FAN Shawnster Johnster - 12:43am Jan 31, 1998 CST (#1748 of 8457)
Colorado and Delaware, if extended, meet across the river at Shepard road. IMHO that clue is too obscure. 
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