The Pioneer Press medallion has been found. Details are at our Winter Carnival page.
The hunt's over, but the discussion rages on ...
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(Deleted item originally posted by nimrod on 05:46pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)
(Deleted item originally posted by nimrod on 05:48pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)violator - 05:56pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#730 of 8457)
you people are reading into clues too far on some of these 
Wright Winger - 06:04pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#731 of 8457)
99 YEAR OF THE COOLER
I think the medallion will be found this weekend. I plan to camp out there if I can risk getting sicker. I think the orignal guess of found around 8 is a great guess, but if its at mounds 6 or 7 will do it. But its been 11 years since its been at mounds so maybe 11 paces from something. Wright Winger - 06:13pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#732 of 8457)
99 YEAR OF THE COOLER
If any of ya'll find the medallion make sure to mention us cooler junkies. Wright Winger - 06:15pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#733 of 8457)
99 YEAR OF THE COOLER
Hey all right I have to cooler to myself just like SAX last night.
I think it was SAX.
(Deleted item originally posted by George Poppel on 06:16pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)George Poppel - 06:26pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#735 of 8457)
Mr. Know It All, whats up? Where we headed today? BeeyoB - 06:32pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#736 of 8457)
Hey gang, live updates from Mounds shortly. I think we'll check out Prospect too, or is that a dead issue? Give a yell if your up there searching. Luck. Gonna find it - 06:49pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#737 of 8457)
why is everyone overlooking Cherokee park? Huntress - 06:52pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#738 of 8457)
I think Mounds is out. Highland feels more likely. The twin "dome" towers, the lighthouse...pretty dark out there too (gloom)? R C - 07:00pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#739 of 8457)
It won't be at Rice Park because they'd be worried that diggers would harm the ice sculptures. Also, it would get in the way of the other carnival goings-on. Huntress - 07:01pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#740 of 8457)
Also, 'wintry fun' may mean winter-like, as in the indoor hockey rink. Feedback? Pat Pfundstein - 07:09pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#741 of 8457)
Nimrod , I'm back on line for a bit. I looked for your email again but it looks like gibberish and my server can't figure it out either. Try emailing me (click on my head), and then I'll have a return.
A couple of other points. 1) If you went with Greg Sax's theory of no repeats, then you would have ruled out Como last year (since as Greg points out, it set a new record for turn arounds). 2) I can't remember. Oh yeah, you can see the space needle from Newell Park you know. Bubba - 07:11pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#742 of 8457)
I think you guys are way off with Highland, it was there just 2 years ago, they never do that. Keep in mind that the 2nd or 3rd clue always gives what the medallion is in, something to do with a rose bud this year. All you Mounds fans, why????
(Deleted item originally posted by William on 07:22pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)
(Deleted item originally posted by steve smith on 07:23pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)foolsbee - 07:25pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#745 of 8457)
does anyone want to give suggestions about clue #5 and mounds park? nimrod - 07:26pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#746 of 8457)
I must agree with the budster, I cant figure out why everyone is trying to force the
MOUNDS issue. I know that all the clues fit if you force them to, but I think you are all at the wrong site. foolsbee - 07:27pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#747 of 8457)
don't see many connections besides the word immeasurable, maybe that fits with mounds? just guesses nimrod - 07:31pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#748 of 8457)
Foolsbee where are you looking ? ?
(Deleted item originally posted by William on 07:33pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)nimrod - 07:33pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#750 of 8457)
PP / i GUESS I MISSED CONTACTING YOU ONCE AGAIN. ON-LINE TAG...BUMMER. I WILL BE BACK FOR #6. LATER nimrod - 07:34pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#751 of 8457)
What is elmroot? Jake836 - 07:37pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#752 of 8457)
OK it is at mounds, highland, phalen,prospect and/or cherokee. I am going to hunt all of them tonight. I think it is only going to take 6 or 7 clues.
(Deleted item originally posted by William on 07:37pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)Don Juan Demarco - 07:41pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#754 of 8457)
How about Phalen Park? Jake836 - 07:43pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#755 of 8457)
william it was 3 or 4 years and it was between two roots at battle creek Steve Tylor - 07:43pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#756 of 8457)
If you've been by mounds park you would know why we think that it is there! Happy Hunting! William - 07:47pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#757 of 8457)
Jake.. also by Keller lake in 1976 i think. nimrod - 07:48pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#758 of 8457)
I
HAVE BEEN TO MOUNDS just to see what all the hoopla was, and I understand how it could fit if you
FORCE it to but there is better places to look! ?????? respond
(Deleted item originally posted by jim erickson on 07:49pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)
(Deleted item originally posted by jim erickson on 07:51pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)Axel - 07:57pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#761 of 8457)
there is a better place to look, Highland park
(Deleted item originally posted by William on 08:02pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)Pat Pfundstein - 08:04pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#763 of 8457)
Nimrod , I'm back. Are you a Quality person? Huntress - 08:05pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#764 of 8457)
Looking to meet up with some "Cooler Junkies". I've heard Gabes in the Park is a good spot??!! See some of you there!
(Deleted item originally posted by Elsinore on 08:07pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)Pat Pfundstein - 08:07pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#766 of 8457)
Gabe's by the Park is very close to Newell Park, and guess what? They serve ROSÉ there!!!!!!! Elsinore - 08:19pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#767 of 8457)
Man, my hints were SO good, everybody left for it! Mail me my half. Vicki Burnett - 08:27pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#768 of 8457)
uh...I guess.... Elsinore - 08:33pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#769 of 8457)
Well, we're still no clearer on WHERE in the park, or WHAT its in, so I'm going out at 11:32. Greg Sax - 08:44pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#770 of 8457)
I'd be willing to bet a batch of people left the Cooler for Seinfeld. Just a hunch. Anyway, Gabe's is probably a good bet for local chatter on the medallion hunt, but you might be better off going somewhere well known for Winter Carnival participation. George McGovern's on W. 7th is a renowned Vulcan haunt. Belly up to the bar, and you'll be sure to get the latest gossip. I do believe that the whole city gets medallion fever, but experience has taught me that the closer you are to where most of the events occur, the more diggers you'll find. mother dole - 08:45pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#771 of 8457)
New here, don't know if anyone else has said this. This all refers to Highland Park. Montreal and Rome are both names of streets that are cities and they are on the west edge of the golf course.
Another street there is Beechwood - (water+wood). The other street (these are all consecutive) is Hillcrest (certainly high ground).
But I think its at Mound, anyway :) Pat Pfundstein - 08:51pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#772 of 8457)
What the heck! I am going to grab my lovely wife, and get my hind quarters into the great outdoors! I think it is at Newell, but I am going to scout out Mounds right now! See you all there@! The Clue Master - 08:53pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#773 of 8457)
Thanks for the condensed info Mr. Sax. I have clipped and saved every original printed daily clue and the explinations since 1980. A lot of them are real yellow and frail. I'll bring your info with me now printed on fresh paper. The only difference will be that my originals have various beer and coffee stains on them with many stories associated with each stain. I still buy the daily paper for the originals, only because I have such a collection going. It's nice to see that you're still into the 'Hunt' even though you're miles away. I've aged a bit since I've started, but the drive is still there. Camping out all night and digging for 12 - 15 hours at a time are things of the past. I try to use my head a bit more these days, and thanks to you and the others in the 'cooler', it has helped a great deal. Vicki Burnett - 08:53pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#774 of 8457)
Well actually....Mother Lode means mineral deposits. The mounds in mounds park are far from being mineral deposits. They are burial grounds. Vicki Burnett - 08:56pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#775 of 8457)
Of course....they could also refer to the "mother lode" as a gold mine. Vicki Burnett - 09:00pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#776 of 8457)
I personally think that one and two are just general ideas. Number one says look in a park in St. Paul. So that gives you a big picture of St.Pauls parks as a whole. The next clue narrows it down a little more. Gives us a picture of a park near or around somewhere with high ground.... Vicki Burnett - 09:04pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#777 of 8457)
So I'm thinking...Highland park...or the Battle Creek- Ski Area...or at least something of that nature. Again they are narrowing...talking generally about location.
(Deleted item originally posted by William on 09:08pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)mother dole - 09:10pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#779 of 8457)
I've been a lurker since the Estabrook days last year. This is lots of fun, and you guys are so helpful. It's amazing how close I come every year. I should have found it in highland, I was right on top of it. But the snow was really packed down. Oh well. see you at Mounds :) Vicki Burnett - 09:10pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#780 of 8457)
#3 I can think of only two places where kids like to go zoom. On a hill or on a slide. But I don't think, on the third clue they'd get that general. Vicki Burnett - 09:13pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#781 of 8457)
What does mounds have anything to do with zooming...fun..rosebud...? Kids don't go sliding down a Slide during winter...so that's definitely out of the question. Vicki Burnett - 09:17pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#782 of 8457)
I think #4 is a pretty good clue. FIRST you have to crack this CODE. So here is a demonstration of the direction to pursue, as you hunt for the mother lode (goldmine) The Clue Master - 09:23pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#783 of 8457)
Vicki - Check #459. It has some ideas that most hunters are considering. Just an FYI to help you a bit. Keep thinking though. You have some good ideas. Don Juan Demarco - 09:33pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#784 of 8457)
IN THE SAINT PAUL TREASURES GUIDE 96' THE LAST SENTENCE IS OK SLIDING
HILL FROM THE TOWER TO THE WEST.FOR MOUNDS REGIONAL PARK. Brutus and Kato - 09:41pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#785 of 8457)
I know for a fact it's in COMO, YOU KNOTHEADS! COMO!! COMO!! COMO!!
(Deleted item originally posted by jill on 09:51pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)jill - 09:52pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#787 of 8457)
Hi Alan Sherri Osborn - 09:53pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#788 of 8457)
Fro greg and any one else who cares... I went by Mounds Park this afternoon and there was bt a hand full of searchers... Although the usual spots were dug up (around benches, the playground, s9igns, etc).... Although at this point mounds would work, I am not convinced.... Don Juan Demarco - 09:55pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#789 of 8457)
IT WAS IN COMO LAST YEAR WHY AND HOW ARE YOU SO SURE IT IS IN COMO! Bubba - 10:01pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#790 of 8457)
Just got back form Mounds Park, about a dozen people out there. Just don't get it though, it doesn't seem right, I like Phalen! B. Werner - 10:02pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#791 of 8457)
mode and demo translated are dome as in the capitol and the cathedral
object in sight is the tower mother lode is the barges and the coal mine that used to be underneath kids like to zoom at the airport slide down hills along with bikes skateboards and rollerblades the rose is a painting on a building and you have thorn st nearby and not to mention that there is a playground nearby and kids do play in them in the wintertime clueless - 10:02pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#792 of 8457)
Crack our code.... Code divided in two is CO and DE maybe colorado and delaware as streets or cities of these states as the streets that lead to the med...Also do you really think they will get that specific until this weekend. The pioneer press and winter carnival want to get as many people to look for the medallion as possible so don't look for really specific clues until saturday and sunday because that is when most people can hunt...lastly, it very well could be in a small park because they usually make the hints to the park obvious by this time if it is in a large park. If it is in a small park, it will most likely be found soon after the park is identified thus the reason to have vague clues to its where abouts until this weekend.
(Deleted item originally posted by violator on 10:05pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)The Woman And I - 10:06pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#794 of 8457)
Alan and Jill
HI WOMAN!
I just got your page and I'm all caught up on the "cooler"notes. Holy cripes, aren't anybodys fingers getting sore yet? The Woman And I - 10:08pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#795 of 8457)
Alan and Jill
So, I'm still thinkin' Mounds park however we haven't been to Newell or the other Prospect park yet. Greg Sax - 10:14pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#796 of 8457)
Sherri: Thanks for the real-time account of the Mounds dig site. It's the first time I've heard someone mention the "usual" areas that are dug up (signs, benches, etc.) - that kind of detail is the sign of a true digger. But then I already knew that about you, didn't I? Clue Master: Thanks for the good word. If I get my way, all of the clues (1952-present) will soon be available for fresh printing, both at Pioneer Planet and at all the St. Paul public libraries. I have the means. It may not happen this year, but a history lesson is best given before a hunt anyway. The Clue Master - 10:16pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#797 of 8457)
Good job Clueless on the Crack our Code thing. I thought of it earlier but didn't want to write anything because I thought it was streching. Now I know that any idea is at least an idea. Thanks for confirming my thoughts. I will be sure to throw out any tid bit from now on. Any sliding hill at Prospect? Vicki Burnett - 10:22pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#798 of 8457)
#5 states: "..to riches that are almost immeasurable.." Prosperity? Vicki Burnett - 10:30pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#799 of 8457)
this is so much fun! violator - 10:31pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#800 of 8457)
oooo number 800 violator - 10:33pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#801 of 8457)
I'm here till 11:31, then I'll just have to go dig it up<G> The Clue Master - 10:36pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#802 of 8457)
How about the flood water lines on the side of the river as the almost immeasurable clue? They can be seen by both Prospect and Mounds. Just digging a bit.
(Deleted item originally posted by Vicki Burnett on 10:37pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)Don Juan Demarco - 10:37pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#804 of 8457)
NOPE DONT BELIEVE THERES ANY HIGH GROUND THERE AT PROSPERITY PARK FOR SLIDING ONLY AN ICE SKATING RINK. MAYBE THATS ZOOMING? Vicki Burnett - 10:38pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#805 of 8457)
Why would they say..Riches....that are immeasurable Vicki Burnett - 10:38pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#806 of 8457)
Prosperity Ave is on the way to Mounds.... Don Juan Demarco - 10:46pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#807 of 8457)
THE VIEW IS IMMEASURABLE AT MOUNDS. mother dole - 10:47pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#808 of 8457)
Riches that are almost immeasurable means THE MEDALLION!!! It's worth
$4000 bucks. You guys are really over analyzing :) Don Juan Demarco - 10:49pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#809 of 8457)
OVER ANAYLIZING HA HA WELL WHAT HAVE YOU COME UP WITH LATELY41 MORE MINUTES, INTENSE OR WHAT? The Clue Master - 10:50pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#810 of 8457)
Prospect Park not Prosperity Park. They are 2 different parks. Anybody know if Prospect Park by Cherokee Park on the west side, has any sliding hills? I'm stuck at work until after midnight. I'm putting on the miles tonight unless the clue proves obvious. mother dole - 10:54pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#811 of 8457)
looking back at previous year's clues, we usually don't have half of the "solid" leads everyone has come up with here by clue #5. i'm not trying to knock this discussion, just trying to keep it in perspective. Vicki Burnett - 10:54pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#812 of 8457)
lode-dole dole means a charity...thinking....thinking of anything... Vicki Burnett - 10:56pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#813 of 8457)
Please forgive me...I'm just starting my search...I'm a little behind... Pat Pfundstein - 10:56pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#814 of 8457)
Nimrod are you out there? Randall Johnson - 10:56pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#815 of 8457)
I Think We Should Hide The Medalion On The Dispatch
Lets Hide It In The Froggy Pond Vicki Burnett - 10:57pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#816 of 8457)
Jackson street is a City Street....*laughing* MJ Frog - 10:59pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#817 of 8457)
Please Hide It In My Pond Pat Pfundstein - 11:00pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#818 of 8457)
Mounds is dead. Long live Clayland Park! mother dole - 11:00pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#819 of 8457)
vicky, i just changed my name... if you're gonna go and try to make clues out of it :) Kitty - 11:01pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#820 of 8457)
Going through old clues shows that the words lode and measure
have been used before but have not been of any importance.
However; the word first has been used to refer to the 1st bank sign
twice, the year it was at Cherokee and the year it was at Harriet Island. The Clue Master - 11:02pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#821 of 8457)
Mother Moco - I guess I would have to agree with the medallion being the immeasurable riches, but we are here to help add any ideas that might, just might, turn on a light bulb that helps all brainstorm a bit more. It bothers me that a lot of people are still on the 'Rosebud' clue thinking it has something to do with roses, but I still let them put their 2 cents in anyway. Do you know where to check for last years hunting discussion? MJ Frog - 11:02pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#822 of 8457)
Hipitty Hop Hipitty Hop Down To Mounds Park Is Where
I,ll Hop David Allison - 11:06pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#823 of 8457)
You know a few years ago when it was in Highland Park, they made a reference to "elevated terrain" to mean "High Land". Do you think they would use "high ground" in the same sense? Janet Evans - 11:09pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#824 of 8457)
"ROSEBUD" still could mean the rosebud pasta company in stpaul> it could be hidden in this container because it has a picture of a rosebud on it....or a rosebud shaped container..... Pat Pfundstein - 11:10pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#825 of 8457)
Hey this color stuff is fun while you wait for clues. Can anyone guess my graphic designing love has come home? (Hint: she is responsible for Clayland stuff, I'm more of a Newell Man). Highland is looking almost as good as Newell though. We took a tour of Rome and Montreal Avenues as well as walking under the twin domes of the water towers on the highest ground in St. Paul. Can't wait until 11:30. Vicki Burnett - 11:14pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#826 of 8457)
Mother whatever your name is...So I'm not perfect ...God made me this way...I can't help myself someone as educated as yourself should have more sense than to make fun of someone who isn't the brightest bulb on the tree. Please excuse my presence from your "brain bowl" thought this was an "everyone" event??? youngster - 11:14pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#827 of 8457)
Clue #4 mentions "mother load" as in minning or 3M, which points to Battle Creek. Lots of sleding at Battle Creek. You can see the corporate 3M sign from the park mother dole - 11:15pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#828 of 8457)
I delivered papers up and down Rome and Montreal. 2 streets over is Beechwood (water and woods?). I don't think its in Highland, though. greenslvs2 - 11:15pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#829 of 8457)
Pat: Is there anything anywhere in Highland Park that there's so many of them it would be hard to count them? Godhead - 11:16pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#830 of 8457)
I guess tonight's clue will determine which direction to point the car. I've subscribed to the Mounds theory, so somebody please tell me why I should stay away from there...
Hey Lori, find anything at your "sure thing"? Pat Pfundstein - 11:16pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#831 of 8457)
Rosebud may very well pertain to the container of the medallion, but if it's primary meaning is not 'sled' I'll eat every St. Paul paper printed in the last ten years with a clue on it. In Newell Park. (Actually, the Clue Master sounds like he has some pretty tasty paper.) mother dole - 11:16pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#832 of 8457)
vicki, i was just kidding... guess i forgot my smiley :)
(Deleted item originally posted by greenslvs2 on 11:17pm Jan 29, 1998 CST)violator - 11:17pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#834 of 8457)
janet where is the rosebud pasta factory at in st paul? mother dole - 11:17pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#835 of 8457)
vicki, i was just kidding... guess i forgot my smiley :) Godhead - 11:18pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#836 of 8457)
Where's the love gone? youngster - 11:18pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#837 of 8457)
Clue #4 mentions "mother load" as in minning or 3M, which points to Battle Creek. Lots of sleding at Battle Creek. You can see the corporate 3M sign from the park Pat Pfundstein - 11:18pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#838 of 8457)
Grnsleeves, yes! The strokes on my scorecard every time I play the 18 Hole course. I am of the mind that immeasurable simply refers to the treasure. Vicki Burnett - 11:19pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#839 of 8457)
I may never get anywhere near the treasure but I enjoy at least trying. Janet Evans - 11:19pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#840 of 8457)
even though some clues match highland i still dont think its there. we were there and they are doing alot of cutting trees and branches down replacing stuff in the golf course and snowplowing roads through the snow for the workers if its there dig deep becuase its probably under what they have plowed!!!! Pat Pfundstein - 11:21pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#841 of 8457)
The Mother 'Lode' (I am the Mother Load) is also the treasure. It can be found in Newell before you'll find it at Battle Creek. David Allison - 11:21pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#842 of 8457)
Just to confuse things a bit more, Arlington does run straight into Phalen. It hasn't been there in quite a while. "Woods and water" could always be referring to a golf course. On the other hand Lexington runs from Como to Highland. I sincerely doubt that anyone who works at Como Park would tolerate it being hidden there again after all the damage last year. Highland does have a very large water tower in view and plenty of hills as well as a golf course. As far as "demo and mode" I like the idea of it being a dome, but it could be hidden in a dome, or maybe even a souvenir cup from the Metrodome. The possibilities, unfortunately, are still endless. Vicki Burnett - 11:22pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#843 of 8457)
:)
Mama Ozzy - 11:22pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#844 of 8457)
I would be very disappointed if they were using the same reference to highland (the elevated terrain and high ground), so I tend to not believe it. greenslvs2 - 11:22pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#845 of 8457)
But Janet, that working in Highland might lend credence to a post some placed - it seems like years ago!!! - about how the Med seems to keep being found in a park where some type of work/grounds keeping is going on. Godhead - 11:23pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#846 of 8457)
Where's the love gone? Vicki Burnett - 11:24pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#847 of 8457)
*excited* almost there!!! greenslvs2 - 11:25pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#848 of 8457)
David!!! That mite be it!!! Lexington *from* Como *to* Highland....
"City streets will also show you the way"!!! Poot - 11:25pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#849 of 8457)
That Pat Pfundstein is a Pfunny Pfella. Don Juan Demarco - 11:25pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#850 of 8457)
HOW MANY ARE YOU GOING OUT AFTER THE 6TH CLUE IS POSTED? Vicki Burnett - 11:26pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#851 of 8457)
mikem - 11:26pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#852 of 8457)
is thair any connection with mounds park and the casinos Janet Evans - 11:26pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#853 of 8457)
some old man at mound was talikn about a pasta factory in stpaul d that does their labeling with a rose {JUST an iidea} good point about highland Donna Delaney - 11:28pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#854 of 8457)
Has it ever been in Newell Park ? Anybody?? Vicki Burnett - 11:29pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#855 of 8457)
MikeM yup sure is.....*laughing* David Allison - 11:29pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#856 of 8457)
There's also the possibility that there are some ulterior motives as to where the treasure is hidden. Last year, when it was in Como, it was Como Zoo's 100th anniversary. If they wanted to call attention to a particular area, this is a good way to do it. I know Norm Coleman would be very interested in drawing people downtown right now, so the capitol or maybe Mounds Park would have an edge in that sense. Poot - 11:29pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#857 of 8457)
Janet, Was the old man at Mound driving a big old station wagon full of six kids and shovels? We saw him last year at Como. He had a great theory about the Hamms brewery. ;-) Vicki Burnett - 11:32pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#858 of 8457)
plume of smoke... hoosline - 11:32pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#859 of 8457)
were is ever one going Mama Ozzy - 11:33pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#860 of 8457)
Donna - It was at newell Park in 1984.... Godhead - 11:33pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#861 of 8457)
Smokestack? What, are you kidding me? mother dole - 11:33pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#862 of 8457)
david, good point about motives for the location.
was thinking that a place to play that makes winter more pleasureable might have something to do with a new arena for a hockey team. are they planning to play in the civic center or will there be a new stadium? near mounds park? :) Pat Pfundstein - 11:33pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#863 of 8457)
Highland just took a beating, but not Newell. Vicki Burnett - 11:34pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#864 of 8457)
A train blowing smoke by mounds...a busy factory somewhere... Godhead - 11:35pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#865 of 8457)
I'm off. My partner in crime has an idea. Good luck to you all...
Godhead bless... David Allison - 11:35pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#866 of 8457)
The same rail line runs from Highland Park, along the river, by downtown, and right along Mounds Park and ends up not too far from Battle Creek Vicki Burnett - 11:37pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#867 of 8457)
... Vicki Burnett - 11:39pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#868 of 8457)
Wanderer - 11:39pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#869 of 8457)
If you're on the wrong track don't blow your stack
Just look for a plume of smoke in the skies
With this in view you'll soon be back
In the hunt for our valuable prize Donna Delaney - 11:39pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#870 of 8457)
Mama Ozzy - Thanks for info on Newell Park !! it's close, the tains run, the fair is near, the saints are near, smoke is everywhere - sounds like a place to start to me.. Mama Ozzy - 11:42pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#871 of 8457)
Good luck to anyone heading out to their pick of parks! Wish I was out hunting too.... David Allison - 11:43pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#872 of 8457)
What do city streets have to do with Newell Park, or for that matter Mounds Park? In Highland the plumes of smoke could at least be from barbeque pits. huntandfind - 11:44pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#873 of 8457)
Are you sure its not Highland Park? Mike_Miller - 11:46pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#874 of 8457)
Water (street), woods, (railroad) track, stack with a plume of smoke, all this sounds like the vista from Cherokee park to our little group. mikem - 11:46pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#875 of 8457)
where is newell park anyway Rosebud - 11:48pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#876 of 8457)
Water (street), woods, (railroad) track, stack with a plume of smoke, all this sounds like the vista from Cherokee park to our little group. violator - 11:51pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#877 of 8457)
No clinching clues yet, think its time for bed and save my strength for friday night. still accepting half from anyone who should stumble across the med. Greg Sax - 11:53pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#878 of 8457)
Historically, whenever they bring up a "stack" or "smoke in the skies" clue, it's some kind of reference to the NSP smokestack visible from several downtown area parks. Mounds should still be in the running, but Cherokee may have jumped into the picture again with its proximity to the stack and past ideas that Annapolis and/or Ottawa are "city streets." Plus, the line "you'll soon be back" may have been an indicator that they, in fact, are going against the usual pattern of repeating hiding places; it was last at Cherokee only 6 years ago. The mention of "track" always calls up railroad tracks (visible below Mounds). David Allison - 11:57pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#879 of 8457)
A couple years ago I tried to make a complete list of all the places the treasure could be hidden. I can't claim to remember where these all are, but perhaps we can start a process of elimination.
I have to admit that I've never heard of Cherokee Park, though my map is a bit old. So let's start eliminating. BeeyoB - 11:57pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#880 of 8457)
Mounds is ok, but we did tour Cher and Propect this eve. On the way across the highbridge, we did take note of the NSP stack on the 'sippi. Cher again? And what's with all the tire tracks ALL over Cher park? Friday is here! Ms. Snowflake - 12:01am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#881 of 8457)
I have been searching for the medallion since 1952 and have always been at the park! BUT I am still searching. We enjoy the carnival and all of the excitment it brings to St. Paul. My guess is Mounds or Cherokee. The smoke stack is either NSP or Pig's Eye. The train track run under both of the parks. Rosebud refers to the container and there is a La Rosa Pasta that has a large red rose as their signature!
Both parks are on the river, have playgrounds, sliding hills, views of the cathedral and capital, and are scenic overviews.
I live in Highland and my guess is that it is not there even though it would be very close. Vicki Burnett - 12:03am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#882 of 8457)
Water St. + Wood St. are all in the neighborhood. So is Prospect and so is Delos=lodes ....
(Deleted item originally posted by Greg Sax on 12:03am Jan 30, 1998 CST)Vicki Burnett - 12:05am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#884 of 8457)
water st. wood st. Delos st=Lodes Smoke stack Prosperity Vicki Burnett - 12:05am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#885 of 8457)
oops sorry..
(Deleted item originally posted by Vicki Burnett on 12:06am Jan 30, 1998 CST)
(Deleted item originally posted by Vicki Burnett on 12:06am Jan 30, 1998 CST)greenslvs2 - 12:06am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#888 of 8457)
"If you're on the wrong track, don't blow your stack"... could that mean you *are* on the wrong track if thinking train, and should be looking for a field/running track. Any running track-type thing in Highland?
Too, the airport periodically "blows smoke" into the air... And that's close to Highland... Which we'd soon be going "back to" if the Med is there. Vicki Burnett - 12:07am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#889 of 8457)
There's a big hill there too.... Vicki Burnett - 12:08am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#890 of 8457)
across the river In Cherokee Heights...that is my prediction...the roads are all there... Vicki Burnett - 12:09am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#891 of 8457)
Lodes = Delos St....
(Deleted item originally posted by Vicki Burnett on 12:10am Jan 30, 1998 CST)Vicki Burnett - 12:11am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#893 of 8457)
"doh" and I don't have a car or shovel *very sad*
(Deleted item originally posted by Greg Sax on 12:11am Jan 30, 1998 CST)mikem - 12:13am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#895 of 8457)
vikki but thair is no "s" in lode in clue 4 Vicki Burnett - 12:13am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#896 of 8457)
It sucks to be me....Water st, Wood st, prosperity st, Delos st, ...doh...I wanna go... Ms. Snowflake - 12:14am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#897 of 8457)
Highland Park has a running track, golf course, picnic area, playground, water towers, hills for sliding, walking bridge from one side of the park to the other (over Montreal Ave. - a city name) a public pool for water, a high school close by, woods, but no smoke stacks ( the airport is much to far away - sorry!) and nothing to do with a dome. greenslvs2 - 12:14am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#898 of 8457)
Ms. Snowflake: Which park is closest to Pig's Eye? I read on the Net that Pig's Eye (Lake) has the largest crane or ospery or heron rookery...
With so many birds... they would be "almost immeasurable." huntandfind - 12:14am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#899 of 8457)
Where is La Rosa Pasta? Vicki Burnett - 12:14am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#900 of 8457)
That's true...but Delo is still there..*s* Greg Sax - 12:16am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#901 of 8457)
David Allison, et. al: I'll post this now instead of later when Water Cooler traffic could be heavier...
Past Hiding Places of the Medallion/Chest
1952 Highland Park -- in a clump of weeds
1953 Cherokee Park -- in a snowbank; State Fairgrounds -- in a large bush (two chests)
1954 Hidden Falls Park -- in a dead, hollow stump
1955 Seventh and Robert Streets -- under a mailbox (chest had been magnetized)
1956 Como Park -- inside a hollow log
1957 Battle Creek Park -- in a clump of roots above ground
1958 Under Highway 61 Bridge -- in milky ice (first year of medallion)
1959 Warner Road -- under a tree
1960 Harriet Island Park -- in the heel of a boot
1961 Highland Park -- in a large clump of grass
1962 Along Mississippi Street -- attached to disc
1963 Caroll, Jefferson, Farrington and Rondo Street -- found in a snowbank without protection
1964 Beaver Lake Park -- attached to a gold-colored brick
1965 Como Park -- attached to a hunk of a printing lead
1966 Harriet Island Park -- attached to a flatiron
1967 State Fairgrounds -- underneath eight inches of ice
1968 Highland Park -- attached to plasterboard
1969 Victoria Street and I-35E -- in a crevice of two rocks
1970 Battle Creek Park, Maplewood -- attached to a cast-iron vise
1971 Wakefield Lake Park, Maplewood -- attached to baby buggy wheel
1972 Marydale Park -- stuck inside a chunk of drain pipe
1973 Lake Phalen Park -- cemented inside of a closet bracket
1974 Cherokee Park -- in a crushed Coke can
1975 Mears Park -- inside of a Bull Burham sack
1976 Keller Lake Park, Maplewood -- attached to a piece of wood
1977 Irvine Park -- inside of a cigar box
1978 Harriet Island Park -- frozen inside of a snowball
1979 Marthaler Park, West St. Paul -- taped to a dead tree
1980 Como Park -- inside of plaster
1981 Acorn Park, Roseville -- taped in between leaves
1982 Wakefield Lake Park -- wrapped in a newspaper
1983 Lake Phalen Park -- substituted as filling in an Oreo cookie
1984 Newell Park -- attached to a broken 45 rpm record
1985 Kellogg Mall Park -- glued inside of a White Castle Hamburger Box
1986 Highland Park -- inside of a pipe
1987 Indian Mounds Park -- wrapped in clay and grass
1988 Tony Schmidt Park, Arden Hills -- coated with an almond bark
1989 The Capitol Mall -- inside an earmuff
1990 Como Park -- wrapped in clay and grass
1991 Langford Park -- stuck inside of a Hostess Brand Sno-Ball
1992 Cherokee Park -- inside of a white mitten
1993 Hidden Falls Park -- stuck inside of a diaper
1994 Highland Park -- inside of a little white box
1995 Battle Creek Park -- placed inside of a knitted yarn pouch
1996 Harriet Island Park -- inside of a Skoal tin
1997 Como Park -- in a Curad bandage box, wrapped in a red bandana
1998 ???
(Deleted item originally posted by Vicki Burnett on 12:16am Jan 30, 1998 CST)David Allison - 12:17am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#903 of 8457)
I'm still assuming that track refers to a railroad. The parks that have railroads at least relatively near them are:
B.J. Mack - 12:18am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#904 of 8457)
It's looking more and more like Cherokee Heights Park. Here's the explanation:
--clue one: refers to the "lucky one." the First Bank ONE is visible from Cherokee.
--clue two: water and woods: trees and the river.
--clue three: good sledding hill, we used to go there when I was a kid. At Cherokee near the ballfield.
--clue four: large object in view: NSP smokestack. The transposing of demo and mode equals "dome" and "dome"...the Capitol and Cathedral domes are visible from Cherokee
--clue five: place to play equals ballfield. Check your map for three nearby "city" streets.
--clue six: another reference to the NSP smokestack.
I've probably given away too much. See you out there on Friday night! Elsinore - 12:19am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#905 of 8457)
The closest park to Pigs Eye is.....Pigs Eye Park! It's just across Hwy 61 from Battle Creek and Mounds Vicki Burnett - 12:20am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#906 of 8457)
He said exactly what I was trying to say.. Greg Sax - 12:21am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#907 of 8457)
I don't like posting such long messages, but I figured the list could be helpful to those who don't already have it. Copy and paste it to your local hard drive and you're set forever. I would've put it up sooner, but the daytime traffic gets a little hectic. Maybe I'll risk it anyway...
(Deleted item originally posted by Vicki Burnett on 12:21am Jan 30, 1998 CST)mikem - 12:22am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#909 of 8457)
where is newell park Ms. Snowflake - 12:23am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#910 of 8457)
The Pig's Eye Recycling Plant is south of Mounds Park on the Mississippi River, and La Rosa Pasta is packaged in Steger, Illinois, but the spaghetti package has a red rose on it. I have been tracking the clues over the past 20 years and have found that as the writer's of the clues have changed the order of the clues have also changed. But the past few years have indicated that the 1sr, 2nd, or 3rd clue tells us what the medallion is hidden in! huntandfind - 12:26am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#911 of 8457)
Newell Park is off of Pierce Butler, I don't think that's it no clues lead to it. Elsinore - 12:29am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#912 of 8457)
Where is Cherokee Heights Park? mother dole - 12:30am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#913 of 8457)
vicki,
may go digging tomorrow around noon for a couple hours. wanna go? we can split the dough. i'll drive :) mikem - 12:31am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#914 of 8457)
its on the south side of the high bridge huntandfind - 12:33am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#915 of 8457)
the south side of what high bridge? SNAKE 88 - 12:33am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#916 of 8457)
IT'S NOT AT MOUNDS
(Deleted item originally posted by huntandfind on 12:34am Jan 30, 1998 CST)greenslvs2 - 12:35am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#918 of 8457)
Don't know if this means anything... But Como was seven years apart. It's been seven years since Cherokee. "Soon be back"??? Ms. Snowflake - 12:35am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#919 of 8457)
Cherokee Park is above the river, between Hwy. 13 and the High Bridge. I believe that Greg seems to have an accurate account and knows the background of these clues. Is there adaquate parking for the hunt in Cherokee. You know that safety is an issue? David Allison - 12:36am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#920 of 8457)
I could be wrong, but when they say its in a St. Paul park I'm interpreting that literally to mean within the city limits of St. Paul and in a park. Consequently I'm hoping its safe to rule past hiding places such as Roseville or West St. Paul, but that was an excellent posting nonetheless. Now assuming that it is by a railroad and has a street nearby named after a city, this leaves:
I ruled out Battle Creek, Newell, and Langford, as well as Meares, because I couldn't find any streets with city names nearby. Correct me if I'm wrong. From this list I think its fairly safe to cross out Como and Harriet Island on the assumption they wouldn't hide it in the same place in such a short span of time. I've never been to Merriam Terrace but it looks to be in a flat part of town. Am I wrong? This leaves us more or less where we started with Highland, Mounds, Phalen, or Cherokee Park.
(Deleted item originally posted by Will Vold on 12:36am Jan 30, 1998 CST)huntandfind - 12:40am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#922 of 8457)
I'm not sure why everyone wants to go to Cherokee, but I don;t think that is it either. There is an indian tride on Rosebud in SD but it is Soiux, Cherokee Will Vold - 12:40am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#923 of 8457)
Why "City Streets" and not "way" as in Park"way" Ms. Snowflake - 12:41am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#924 of 8457)
David you are correct! The street names should be very helpful! But what are the intersecting street names? David Allison - 12:42am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#925 of 8457)
Does the high bridge lead to the high ground? huntandfind - 12:42am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#926 of 8457)
Highland Parkway David Allison - 12:45am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#927 of 8457)
Most of the "city streets" don't really have intersecting streets of note. Its more that they border on or cut right through the parks. The only exception is Urban Place which intersects Mound Blvd, but that seems like the weak link in the group. Greg Sax - 12:48am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#928 of 8457)
greenslvs2: It's actually been 6 years since Cherokee; that would be a record for repeating but if you checked my post at #878, you'd see that I agree with the "soon be back" idea.
Other stuff...I think the La Rosa Pasta idea is clever, but off. If "Rosebud" has nothing to do with the sled, or the movie, or the word "rose" or "bud", then hunters will get angry. The Press listens when people complain. We want it to be difficult but not ridiculous. The best "Rosebud" theory I've heard for Mounds is Thorn Street. Other clues may lead to Urban Place, Suburban Avenue, the light tower, a visible playground, visible domes, and now the NSP stack. Granted, Cherokee meets several criteria, but there's that whole repetition thing that the Press might be hung up on. BeeyoB - 12:49am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#929 of 8457)
For anyone interested, a group of us have been getting together prior to going out for the evening hunt. I'll post Friday's spot, may be Patrick Mc's? Elsinore - 12:50am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#930 of 8457)
Why did we rule out prospect? It's close enough to Cherokee to have the same attributes, plus its btwn Water and Wood Sts David Allison - 12:50am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#931 of 8457)
I'm going to guess that Phalen is not it because the railroad goes through the Maplewood area of it. I also doubt that Mounds is it at this point because of the lack of good street names. I can't eliminate Highland yet, but Cherokee does border Harriet Island Park for you "soon be back" fans. Also, isn't it across the river from where the new Science Museum is going to be (in reference to my earlier ulterior motives posting)? Ms. Snowflake - 12:51am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#932 of 8457)
The High Brige is at an incline and goes over Water Street, starts at Smith St. and goes to Manomin Ave. according to my (old) map. David Allison - 12:54am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#933 of 8457)
Actually now that I see where Prospect is, it does border on a street named Chicago and is nominally close to the railroads and harriet island for that matter (being back soon). Its also on Delos St for those who believe in that interpretation, though I don't. Elsinore - 01:01am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#934 of 8457)
So far we've seen no clue (we think) of what the Med is in. And we've seen nothing yet (hopefully Sat am clue) about where in the park. At least ONE of those two should be hinted by now. Greg Sax - 01:04am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#935 of 8457)
Hey, BeeyoB. Weren't you represented by a satellite icon or was that somebody else? I was getting used to that. I wish I could join you at McGovern's. You just helped me realize that I referred to it as George McGovern's earlier in the day. Man, that would be one sad, old bar if it were named for George. Greg Sax - 01:13am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#936 of 8457)
Peace out 'til sunrise everyone. For those returning to the Water Cooler from the dig, please share thoughts. You of the spelunking helmet and lantern are the real deal. Jake836 - 01:26am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#937 of 8457)
We just got back from Mounds, it,s definitely there. All the clues all point there. there wasn't too many people digging, it's just a matter of finding the right spot. SnowPrincess - 01:52am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#938 of 8457)
Has this ever happened to anybody...Tonight I was standing in this "certain area," and I looked around..each and every clue unfolded..lost their ambiguity and mystery. It was so amazing. The coolest part...only three people were there other than me!!! But my digits were freezing off. I'm going to be looking for that exact point..those two inches of snow...tomorrow. Joe Medal - 01:57am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#939 of 8457)
what does "you'll soon be back" mean and any clue as to what the med is in? The Clue Master - 02:00am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#940 of 8457)
Snow Princess - I had that same feeling at Highland a couple of years ago. And that's where it turned out to be 2 clues later. I dug for a bit then joined the crowd thinking that I was off. Bad idea. When I seen that old folks home perched under the bridge crossing Montreal, it was like seeing the big 'W' on 'It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world'. Awsome! You should stick with it. You could kick yourself later if you don't. I was just up at Mounds too. I think I saw you. I was in a purple Blazer. Joe Medal - 02:02am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#941 of 8457)
so the verdict is mounds SnowPrincess - 02:04am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#942 of 8457)
It just means that when you see the smoke stack...turn around The Clue Master - 02:07am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#943 of 8457)
For those of you not out and about, especially Mr. Sax, I was all over just now. About 75 - 100 people were up at Mounds. I checked Cheorkee, Prospect, Central, Capitol Grounds, Harriet Island, Rice, Kellogg and Como parks. Only 2 people at Cheorkee and none at the rest. Moderate digging in each park, though that's common for the locals of the surrounding neighborhoods to fit each clue to their park, and just fun to have an excuse to get out. It sure looks to be at Mounds. SnowPrincess - 02:09am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#944 of 8457)
Thanks, Clue Master. Joe Medal - 02:09am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#945 of 8457)
anyone know how big the medallion actually is SnowPrincess - 02:10am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#946 of 8457)
I've heard two inches apprx. Joe Medal - 02:14am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#947 of 8457)
it's supposed to be 40 degrees out tomorrow, everyone will be searching The Clue Master - 02:19am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#948 of 8457)
I need to head out. I have a new baby girl that is certainly going to need me come early morning. This is the first year that I haven't taken vacation days or stayed out all night digging. I know that I'm going to have a hard time getting to sleep tonight thinking about the clues. Well, someday I will bring little Alicia out with me and we are deffinately going to find that coveted coin. See you at Mounds. Night all. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Godhead - 02:19am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#949 of 8457)
Just got back from Mounds myself. The medallion has an incredible knack for being exactly where I am not looking.
This years weather is a Godhead send compared to what we had to deal with last year. If they aren't out looking in this weather, what the heck do they want? ABETERED - 02:55am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#950 of 8457)
ABETRED: Waiting with baited breath to her how a Promise could be answered? Every night I'm left in the cold! ABETERED - 03:00am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#951 of 8457)
ABETERED: Hey, is there a smoke stake by that park? Mound? What's with the rose? Children thing too? Promise to write back? VINYLcollector - 03:13am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#952 of 8457)
http://members.aol.com/VINYLagain/Medallion.html
eh? Dale Gormanson - 06:34am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#953 of 8457)
Hello treasure hunters:
Way back at posting 409 I thought the clues pointed to Mounds. Now they may point to Cherokee. For Mounds I thought the "beacon" was the large structure to guide the way; but maybe it's the "Landmark" Brewery visible from Cherokee. The NSP smoke stack is certainly visible...quite a few city streets go into the park. I was talking with a treasure hunter at Mounds yesterday and he thought the anagram
"dome" clue may actually mean that the treasure is hidden in a computer CD-ROM or disk--crack the code...duke
(Deleted item originally posted by guy on 06:38am Jan 30, 1998 CST)guy - 06:42am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#955 of 8457)
Anyone here guy - 06:43am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#956 of 8457)
IT's at highland guy - 06:44am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#957 of 8457)
helooooooooooooooooo Jesse Anibas - 06:45am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#958 of 8457)
Forget Highland guy - 06:45am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#959 of 8457)
Talk to me guy - 06:46am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#960 of 8457)
No way guy - 06:47am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#961 of 8457)
It's by a rose colored bush guy - 06:49am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#962 of 8457)
It's at highland
(Deleted item originally posted by Lynn Johnson on 07:16am Jan 30, 1998 CST)Lynn Johnson - 07:29am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#964 of 8457)
This is just a thought but Yestdays clue said City streets will show you the way and todays clue said look for a (plume=Plum street) of smoke in the skies. I still think it is at Mounds Park. What do you all think. Mr. Know It All - 07:45am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#965 of 8457)
Hold on thar! You Do not need 2 domes If you take the first and last letters of DemO and ModE it spells dome! greenslvs2 - 07:51am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#966 of 8457)
Good observation, MKIA! However, you're still having to use *two* words to come up with just one dome. I really think the two is significant for two domes. Mr. Know It All - 08:05am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#967 of 8457)
Could be! Snowball2 - 08:13am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#968 of 8457)
Hey MKIA, greenslvs2, or Greg Sax,
I've been keeping up with most of the brainstorms the diggers have made, but there is one that I can't figure out. The city streets URBAN and SUBURBAN near Mounds Park. Is it because their terms and not actual "cities"? Looking for some help. Desire-to-win - 08:19am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#969 of 8457)
Talked to several winners yesterday, they thought it was at Indina Mounds Park. Over 100 people have been there and dug it up. They said that the Rosebud was definitely a sled. However, could not make a connection. Daniel Weiss - 08:21am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#970 of 8457)
One thing no one has noted is the mention of 'scenery'. The most striking impression one takes from Mounds Park is the view.
It's more probable than not that it is at Mounds. The 'Urban' and 'Suburban' connection is perfect, as is the tower for the airplanes.
And this is the biggie: The railroad tracks are directly beneath Mounds Park, whereas they are ACROSS THE RIVER at Cherokee, which would be too much of a stretch.
Bon chance, all! Desire-to-win - 08:24am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#971 of 8457)
Where exactly is this Mounds Park? The first clue said it was in a St. Paul Park. Are you referencing Indian Mounds? Daniel Weiss - 08:27am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#972 of 8457)
'Mounds' is a shortening of 'Indian Mounds Park'. It sits on a bluff overlooking the Mississippi, east of St. Paul. You can see it from Highway 52. cold toes2 - 08:28am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#973 of 8457)
snowball2, i think they are comparing suburban ave, urban pl and burns, to anagrams like demo, mode and dome. Desire-to-win - 08:29am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#974 of 8457)
Thanks, Dan. The only thing that doesn't fit at Indian Mounds is that there is no place for sledding. greenslvs2 - 08:31am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#975 of 8457)
Snowball2: IMHO... "Urban" & "Suburban" don't cut it as both are types of areas, while "city" streets, i.e., "Annapolis," "Lexington," are streets around parks that have actual city names. Daniel Weiss - 08:32am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#976 of 8457)
Really, there's no sledding hill. That's a problem, definitely.
It's at one of two parks, no doubt: Mounds or Cherokee. I'm heading out within the hour but still haven't decided where to.
But too much does fit at Mounds, and the 'zoom' might just be something other than sledding, no? Desire-to-win - 08:35am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#977 of 8457)
City streets does not necessarily mean names of cities. This information comes from previous winners. They thought that the city streets meant that all the surrounding streets lead to the center of the park. However, you cannot dig at the top because of the fence. Desire-to-win - 08:36am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#978 of 8457)
Zoom could also refer to airplanes zooming through the air. But where is the smoke coming from at Mounds? Snowball2 - 08:38am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#979 of 8457)
Thanks cold toes2, and greenslvs2 for the help.
P.S. greenslvs2 what dose IMHO mean? cold toes2 - 08:39am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#980 of 8457)
the smoke comes from the trains Daniel Weiss - 08:39am Jan 30, 1998 CST (#981 of 8457)
Oh, man, the smoke is so very much the NSP smokestack, perfectly viewable from Mounds. PLUS, check out the clues for '87, when it was at Mounds, and you'll find something interesting. One of the clues makes reference to, get this, the Cathedral -- a dome if there ever was one. 
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