The Pioneer Press medallion has been found. Details are at our Winter Carnival page.
The hunt's over, but the discussion rages on ...
(7444 previous messages)greenslvs2 - 09:12pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7445 of 8458)
Cheryl can walk the dog. I'll call her tomorrow, tho she'll prolly slog later tonite when back from the Wolve's game. 
greenslvs2 - 09:14pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7446 of 8458)
I just started laughing so hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know which is funnier!!! Folks thinking the Med was to be found in a Pace Picante lid, or me thinking everything was going to have to be paced off!!!!!!!
God, the memories!!!! This was so wonderful!! digger - 09:16pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7447 of 8458)
I can't be there Sunday, wish I could,
By the water and the wood.
As you gather, your stories to tell,
I wish all you hunters well. Brad B - 09:17pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7448 of 8458)
Terry V. Woodbury...grew up in St. Paul (eastside). Been hunting since I was yeah-high with G-ma. I was out at CP this afternoon between 1:20 and 2:00 - I was there...but I didn't see the couple find it... I left at 2:00 thinking I'd come back later. Hey...does anyone know anything about that "Crack" written in the tree - I didn't see it referenced in the clue explanations.. was that pure luck, playing a hunch. If Maurren H. is still out there - explain it to me? Terry Valentine - 09:18pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7449 of 8458)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!
I could do the questions but will have to e-mail them to someone else just in case I don't make it. Then they could just be run off. Who can get copies run? Any other things people want to know? greenslvs2 - 09:19pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7450 of 8458)
AND WE'RE OFF AGAIN!!!! LOL!!!
"crack the code", I'm thinking, Brad. Wright Winger - 09:21pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7451 of 8458)
99 YEAR OF THE COOLER
Beleave me if you wish, but a week before clue number one, i was constatly reeding the past stuff, and tried to pinpoint the park n stuff and i guessed cherokee and a shoe, pretty close, as of next year i think he or she might stray from his favorite 6, cherokee, hiddin falls, highland, como, harriet, battle creek, and there band from mounds. if thry do pick one of the big 6 i say hidden falls, but i think itll be in a different one. 99 YEAR OF THE COOLER Terry Valentine - 09:21pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7452 of 8458)
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This is so strangely funny. Planning post hunt events. Who would have thought a week ago, we'd all be trying to picnic in the middle of the winter in a park that looks like it's been trashed. Terry Valentine - 09:23pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7453 of 8458)
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Could this be post traumatic stress syndrome? greenslvs2 - 09:24pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7454 of 8458)
e-mail them to me. But I'll need them by Fri so that I can copy them at... ah... (COUGH) ah... work.
Who turned you on to hunting - like G-ma. If not a native, have you ever experienced this where you're from - the magnititde, the length, in harsher elements, etc.
What did you think of The Cooler/discussions/whole idea to talk w/other diggers, etc.? Will you be back next year? Would you be willing to purchase logoed "Cooler" wear?
STuff like that!!! Allie Go - 09:27pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7455 of 8458)
I haven't heard what the medallion was found in....will someone here be kind enough to tell me....and yes, the search was the reward in itself. greenslvs2 - 09:28pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7456 of 8458)
What's so funny about a post hunt event? Or strange, I should say? War veterans get together to relive what they've been thru. Validates it for them.
This will solidify (ice?) our shared experience. Plus, we're starting a NEW TRADITION!!! A picnic in the middle of winter!!!! It beats jumping into a lake and freezing your Medallions off!!!
Just think!!! You'll be able to tell your grandkids, etc., that you began this!!!! Terry Valentine - 09:30pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7457 of 8458)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!
I'll be back. Was here last year too - except when the server was down.
Yes I would purchase Cooler wear. Thought that would be a great idea.
Think the idea of finding other WC discussions to participate would be great idea. Maybe we could suggest a Med check in space where we could post during the year. Wonder if that would work? greenslvs2 - 09:30pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7458 of 8458)
Hi, Allie!! Great to see you!! A sox, "Navy", of all things. Tied in with Annapolis. Rite. Would have been the first thing that jumped into my mind. NOT. Should have saved the idea for the next Harriet Iland gig. giddyup - 09:31pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7459 of 8458)
giddyup back again...greenslvs2. What's in your name? Do you have green sleeves or do you just like the song? Has anyone else been hunting for 20 odd years? I remember hunting (first time) in the late 70s at mounds park. Back then the med was hidden almost anywhere. You think the carnage at CP was bad...back in the old days the parks were completely demolished. Gotta love the net for letting medophiles like ourselves get together and talk about it (aside from staring at each other during the hunt). Anyone else feel a little bit nostalgic? Terry Valentine - 09:32pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7460 of 8458)
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Part of the funny is that part of my work is planning events for an intergenerational program that I coordinate. This is the ultimate! giddyup - 09:34pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7461 of 8458)
greenslvs2...who is coordinating the "Cooler" gear that everyone is talking about??????????/ Allie Go - 09:35pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7462 of 8458)
Thanks greenslvs2...can't believe it's a blue sock! greenslvs2 - 09:36pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7463 of 8458)
Well, Terry, you've said it here. I've a gut feeling that some bean counter at the PP is gonna go thru this w/a fine tooth comb. Think the lawyer's have a go at it too, just to be on the safe side!!! LOL!!!
I think we're strongly on record... and I think it mite come to pass. Think we may have to push it a bit... maybe do studies, prove the worth, etc., but if not this coming year (and I'd be surprised if it didn't happen), but in the very near future... I think we'll have logoed wear.
At least I'm gonna keep pushing for it. :) What the heck do I have to do for the next 12 months????? Terry Valentine - 09:38pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7464 of 8458)
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giddyup - our first hunt was in 70 at Battle Creek, maplewood. The next year at Wakefield with mountains of snow.
Thought this year would be easier. Less snow than some past hunts. The ice and snow compaction - ugh! greenslvs2 - 09:39pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7465 of 8458)
Giddy, what are you talking about? Our hokey, made-up Crew wear (white against dark; maybe a white summer object, i.e., like my white golf cap), or the grass roots movement of logoed wear for people to purhcase???? Allie Go - 09:40pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7466 of 8458)
I think my hunting buddy fell off the face of the earth. I haven't seen him in the water cooler. If you're still alive, send me email...I hope your'e not still out there looking. giddyup - 09:40pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7467 of 8458)
greenslvs2....I'll check with several connections at the PP to see what I can find out. Think the "gear" is a great marketing pitch for the "hunt". Know a couple columnists. greenslvs2 - 09:42pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7468 of 8458)
Allie, that wasn't the colour. It was the brand, and I believe, stitched on the sock. I *think* the sock was white. greenslvs2 - 09:44pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7469 of 8458)
Thanks, giddy. You've my e-mail address.
Name: I took the name I did as I only wear green. Made sense to me!!! LOL!!! Plus, nice song.
I've been thinking of using a new name: Greenjeans... but still thinking!! samsa - 09:46pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7470 of 8458)
giddyup, been there myself. Remember my old man hauling me out to get
the paper 'round midnight, then going hunting, then DELIVERING the
paper in the morning. Med hunting is in my blood. I guess that was
back in the mid-'60s.... Still reminds me that Spring is right around
the corner. giddyup - 09:47pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7471 of 8458)
greenslvs2...grass roots wear for veteran and new hunters. Thinking there is an untapped market out there for "true" hunters that could bring a hightened interest to the hunt as a whole. Anyone concur?? greenslvs2 - 09:49pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7472 of 8458)
I hope the PP has somebody logging e-mail addresses. This Cooler is a WEALTH of info for some historian!!! greenslvs2 - 09:54pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7473 of 8458)
giddy: I was the first and ONLY purrson to take AllieGo's idea of name tags all the way to the screen printers. Now, I ask you - what do you think I think??? I think the PP is gonna jump on this like a cat on a grasshopper!!! Almost every adult and quite a few of the kids said they'd purchase logoed wear. As I write, I can hear it being discussed about the PP as to the merit of it.
Wouldn't have been a viable idea five years ago... No Net. Now, however, we've The Cooler - which is not only a great equalizer, but brings together so many different people from different walks of life, and then - makes us equal in our one mutual goal.
I could go on, but I think you may get my drift. I *really* think the PP will take this as far as they can. Hope they choose green!!!!!!!!!!! giddyup - 09:55pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7474 of 8458)
By god, greenslvs2!!!! LOL, not Mr. Greenjeans from Cptn. Kangaroo!!!! greenslvs2 - 09:56pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7475 of 8458)
Well, DUH!, Giddy. Who the hell else???? Terry Valentine - 09:58pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7476 of 8458)
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greenslvs2 - we now know one of your "other" obsessions. GREEN! greenslvs2 - 09:59pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7477 of 8458)
Bunny doesn't fit me, plus he wasn't green! greenslvs2 - 10:00pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7478 of 8458)
LOL!!! Terry, yea. I guess you're rite!!! But like digging for Meds, it's sssssoooooo fun!! Hick - 10:01pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7479 of 8458)
Just think of the possible withdrawl symptoms here...11 days of staring at the water cooler page, sifting through the hundreds of missed messages in the middle of the nite. This has become routine! How long is the WC going to be around? Perhaps the PP could leave it as a year round addition to Pioneer Planet...maybe it already is... greenslvs2 - 10:02pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7480 of 8458)
Samsa: Are you aware of the get-to-gether Sunday? The First Annual PPMCC Re-Hash Bash at CP???? Know about it??? Gonna be there??? giddyup - 10:02pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7481 of 8458)
Agreed. What an extension of the already proven WC discussions that go on concerning the hunt for the Med (as well as outside the hunt). Think the PP needs to take advantage of the "Hype" surrounding the whole affair to expand their presence. What a wonderful vehicle we've provided the PP to act on!!!! Hope they don't miss on the opp. Cheryl - 10:08pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7482 of 8458)
huh?
Did they say whether or not the sock was buried? Or just hung in a bush? Did we did all this time for nothing? Cheryl - 10:09pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7483 of 8458)
huh?
oops, that should read "dig", not "did." greenslvs2 - 10:10pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7484 of 8458)
Don't think so, Hick, even as much as I would like to see it happen. Thing is with something like the Cooler - it's *supposed* to be just one giant thread.
Hypothetically, threads are not supposed to break down, i.e., get off the topic. (That's why they're called threads!!) But even in an excellent thread like the Med Cooler - wandering occurs. For example, this entire post of mine is "off the thread" here as it better belongs under a title of "Thread Discussion" than "Discussing Clues."
So, given that understanding... and that it's only been approximately eight hours since the Med's been found and that this [Med] thread has almost totally gone off thread... I doubt this Cooler will be open much longer. The PP is gonna need the space for other topics.
We're hoping they'll keep it open until Sunday nite, or maybe Monday or Tuesday so that we're able to post about the Re-Hash Bash and let folks access it... But, don't know. Space is very valuable on a server. Terry Valentine - 10:10pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7485 of 8458)
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Said it was found yards from the "crack" tree. Probably was buried. giddyup - 10:10pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7486 of 8458)
green?? still online??? greenslvs2 - 10:14pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7487 of 8458)
Yea, giddy. We need to xplain to Hick about the other topics in the other Coolers and that the Med may be gone, but we can still gather and pick each other's brains as giddyup - 10:14pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7488 of 8458)
green . gotta think you're a fellow techie. I'm a MCSE. Word up? Terry Valentine - 10:18pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7489 of 8458)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!
Greenslvs, I'll check in tomorrow here for any other questions for the ice breaker than get them e-mailed to you. If this discussion forum disappears, I have your e-mail address. I will get them to you tomorrow evening.
If this disappears before I can get back on, keep track of any new ideas and e-mail them to me. Will just wait here a little longer tonight. samsa - 10:21pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7490 of 8458)
Gsleeves, I wouldn't miss it. It's at 11:30, correct? Are we supposed to wear any identifying garb, such as the white hanky? Or I suppose it is no longer necessary since we'll be the only ones in the park. 'Cept maybe those folks hawking Cooler-gear... Do you think anyone will have the courage to get something printed up by then? Hick - 10:21pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7491 of 8458)
The thread has gotten very thin, I expected more of the regulars to still be around...I don't know what other WC topics could be as good as the Med WC...it's treasure, the motherlode, "Prospecting" (I thought for sure it was there...)
Oh well, back to the farm and everyday chores I guess.
giddyup - 10:25pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7492 of 8458)
Back to the "sure spot" theorem. Did anyone else line up the NSP stack with the parks and rec "Pyramids" and follow the line back to the trees?? Girl with the most cake - 10:27pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7493 of 8458)
Howdy, me and the hubby created a t-shirt and wore it last night. It has the open mouthed face guy on it put thru some different effects. It says "Cooler Crew '98" on it. We also made badges using the graphics we had for our names. I'm a graphic designer and could make other stuff too! Hope to see you at the bash giddyup - 10:29pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7494 of 8458)
green- need to know what to bring sunday. Thinking bagels or doughnuts. Help please... Casey Trauer - 10:31pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7495 of 8458)
PioneerPlanet night editor/Water Cooler moderator
FYI,
I won't be closing this discussion until it really slows down, then I'll move it to the "Old Discussions" folder. If some of you wish for a general discussion area just to chat with folks, I'd be receptive to that. Just e-mail me.
By the way, PioneerPlanet will be featuring chat rooms real soon. Sorry we couldn't get it operational for the medallion hunt.
Cheers,
C.T. Hick - 10:32pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7496 of 8458)
Yeppers, I follwed that line for a while...and if you were in between the trees just right you could see one of the domes too. Allie Go - 10:37pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7497 of 8458)
Casey just mentioned a chat room...although that would have been nice to have, I'm really glad we had the board. It was nice to be able to go through the messages before or after going out. I'm afraid that might be lost with a chat room. Cheryl Straight - 10:45pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7498 of 8458)
Green, and other coolers....Just got home.....Need to review what's happened since the am. Hick - 10:45pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7499 of 8458)
Good point Allie...the chat room would be a better idea 2 days before and after the hunt perhaps. Allie Go - 10:45pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7500 of 8458)
I lost track of where I was digging..at one point I had things lined up...I was so very very close to that spot..and only a few minutes away from reaching it..problem was, it was gone and I didn't know it. Cheryl Straight - 10:46pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7501 of 8458)
ANY word on if/when they might take this down???? Allie Go - 10:47pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7502 of 8458)
I agree Hick...two days before and then after it's found so everyone can grieve together. Allie Go - 10:48pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7503 of 8458)
Yes...Casey said it would stay until it slowed down and then moved to another place..but it would still be up. Cheryl Straight - 10:49pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7504 of 8458)
Green, Sunday time set for 11:30? Also, We can bring Water through the woods from our house. Then no-one has to transport too far AND we can always get more:) Hick - 10:51pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7505 of 8458)
I was all set for a cold day for digging too...I bought a new parka, which I am now modeling *grin* There are a lot of other WCs I found, anyone here frequent any in the list? samsa - 10:56pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7506 of 8458)
Casey T: An admirable job on the Med cooler all-around. Take a night
off and get wild! Give us the email for the top dog and we'll put you
in for a MEDal -- (I couldn't resist that one.. ;^) ) Cheryl Straight - 11:01pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7507 of 8458)
Green are you still here? Hick - 11:03pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7508 of 8458)
Ok, nite all, thanks to all that participated that are still around here, I would still be digging in Prospect if it wasn't for all the help I found here. KCT, great job, keep it up.
Hick-out...not up ;) Terry Valentine - 11:06pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7509 of 8458)
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Cheryl, last time green posted was about 10:15. Probably fell asleep at the keyboard. Eagle Eye - 11:14pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7510 of 8458)
READ #8268 - THE WIZARD SPEAKS!
If you haven't already seen the treasure map on the "Winter Carnival Page" click on "Where, exactly, was it?" Sure makes it look easy, but we all know it was anything but. Terry Valentine - 11:20pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7511 of 8458)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!
Eagle Eye, Thanks for the info. It sure looks easy. Sure wasn't. I guess that's what gives us all the "fever".
Got to hit the sack. Goodnight all. Eagle Eye - 11:27pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7512 of 8458)
READ #8268 - THE WIZARD SPEAKS!
Goodnight Casey. I think we're the only ones left here, for tonight! Don't work too hard. Goodnight CoolerPhiles, wherever you are! Gray Beard - 11:34pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7513 of 8458)
I just wanted to say that I've lived in Minnesota for only four years now and have never been interested in looking for the medallion until I stumbled upon the Water Cooler.
You guys are real entertaining and are so committed to finding the medallion, that it is catchy... I will definitely be back next year and hopefully be able to add to the deciphering of the clues.
Me Dal Leon Hunter: Drop me a line from time to time, need to make sure I still have a hunting partner for next year...
As for the Cooler gear, it would be cool to have the year printed on it. That way you could show the grandkids every year that you participated...
See you all next year! Dave Young - 12:09am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7514 of 8458)
Hey, good going folks! I had a good time reading the messages and digging in Cherokee Park. See you all Sunday morning at 11:30 in Cherokee Park. Dave Young daveyoung@bigfoot.com Greg Sax - 01:03am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7515 of 8458)
I haven't posted in a while, and many of my fellow regulars may not even get a chance to read this, but I wanted to at least send a shout out to my Water Cooler brethren. Maybe some of you will check back in the morning just to see what people could possibly be talking about. So here's something to read:
I love my hometown and I particularly love how we get together for a harmless little dig in the park. Thanks to this medium and the people that made up its core forum, I was able to feel very close to the excitement even when I was 300 miles away. I've adjusted to my new home in Milwaukee, but you folks rekindled my deep respect for St. Paul and proved that you can still have a small-town, friendly feel in a major league city. We're basically all strangers with an odd obsession for little blue plastic coins. To some, that may be the kind of group to stay away from, but here we helped each other enjoy the hunt and made an effort to find each other in the real world (something most computerheads don't do). Rarely did someone turn this into a farce. We stayed on topic and all seem to have had a lot of fun. I know I did.
I got so wrapped up in the frenzy that I made an impromptu visit to St. Paul last Friday night just so I could get my neck out in the field and my shovel deep in the snow. I'm glad I did because when I came back to Milwaukee and we all knew it was at Cherokee I could stay in the conversation because I'd seen the 3 pyramids, I walked down the sledding hill, and I'd "traipsed" around the park "to and fro." Saturday night I parked the car on Chippewa just a few yards back from Wyoming. Of course, I went digging completely in the wrong direction, but I was there, and that's the next best thing to finding it. The people I know here in Milwaukee don't understand this sort of thing, but they're not supposed to. Heck, the people over in Minneapolis aren't even supposed to understand it. It's a St. Paul thing and it will be part of me no matter where I am.
I wish I could join you on Sunday, but I'm afraid another trip back so soon isn't possible. Take care, all. Remember your handles for next year. Casey said we may be able to chat by then. That sure could be less frustrating when the server's strained, but I hope it doesn't keep us from expressing complete thoughts. I tend to avoid chat rooms because of the ridiculous one-liners like "who's there?" and "really? me, too." I have faith that we're all above that. Peace out. Ian - 03:04am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7516 of 8458)
READ MESSAGE 8268
Hello ! What do I do now? Reading all the overnight posts was part of my "pre-work" routine. Anyway, random thoughts...I didn't get to "hear the locusts" (Greg) And you just about had the timing nailed down (It was a little bit after noon.)
My 11 year old son and I were fighting over "computer time" because we both wanted to read everyone's thoughts. The clues were "picked apart" very well here, thanks to the variety of ideas.
Casey: an important part of this forum was the chance to read over all the posts that we had missed. I don't think that would be possible with a chat room.
If anyone would like their e-mail address posted on my web site (under construction LOL), please let me know.http://members.aol.com/VINYLagain/Medallion.html cats meow - 03:24am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7517 of 8458)
I live for chaos! To bad we didn't make it to the last clue; I was really looking forward to the pandemonium. Thanks to all at the cooler for discussions that brought me to within 30 yards of the polymer. Greg Sax and Joe Medallion (polar opposites) and many others have earned their respective places in the Watercooler scrapbook. None will be forgotten and I hope all will be back for the hunt next year.
The only problem i see with this forum is that it gives the clue writer the ability to jack in to our thought processes and predict our thinking. We must continue to strive to outsmart him/her without outsmarting and sabotaging ourselves. At the same time I predict the future will demand different levels (at least two) of hunt difficulty to keep everyone entertained, stimulated and challenged. With the collective unconscious so readily available here, it seems to have become easier to be in the right park earlier even though the clues are at least as ambiguous as preceding years. Also, as most of us were continually trying to read more into the clues than we were suppose and/or meant to, we clearly have an appetite for something a bit more (intellectually) challenging, maybe we should ask for a more stimulating hunt from the press, at least one for the kiddies, newbies, last day hunters and Joe M. and one for thinking folk. One prize for $$$ and one for prestige?
So long. Human Boing - 03:29am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7518 of 8458)
Wow. There are a lot of us who are going to find the medallion next year. Human Boing - 03:37am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7519 of 8458)
and another thing -- did the extremely fortunate duo really find the great prize without the help of a Magic Frisbee? I can't understand how that could possibly have happened. R C - 08:07am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7520 of 8458)
Good morning! Is anyone here? Sherlock - 08:22am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7521 of 8458)
I just want to say that I am disappointed that nobody from the Water Cooler found the medallion! Okay, Okay, I guess that's misdirected disappointment - I really disappointed that now I have to get back to work. Actually, it's a good thing, the piles on my desk are threatening to spillover into my neighbor's area! And to think our cubes surround me with 4 feet high walls - that's a lot of paper! Sigh, guess I'll get hopping. Water Coolers live on... R C - 08:35am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7522 of 8458)
I just want to congratulate Maureen and say I'm looking forward to meeting everyone on Sunday at 11:30! Are we supposed to bring anything? I didn't get all the details. Are we wearing anything special? Will Joe be there? :-) greenslvs2 - 08:57am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7523 of 8458)
The Frist Annual PPMCC Re-Hash Bash
Sunday, February 8, 1998
11:30 a.m. at CP
Coffee for all will be provided. Bring whatever you wish to eat/grill. Besides the grills at The Park, at least two Coleman stoves will be available.
Attire is digger wear - warm clothes. The CC identifier of something white and typically non-winterish (towel around leg, diaper on head, tube sox on arm, golf hat, etc.) is encouraged, but is opptional. (I'll be in my white golf hat that says, "PPMCC Member/I'm WAY COOLER'UN YOU! HAIL COOLER HAND LUKE!" The printing is green, natch!)
If you wish to bring additional items to share - one person is bringing an extra steak or two, there may be some danish and bagels, etc. - please do if you wish. This is not required.
Looking forward to seeing all!!!
HAIL COOLER HAND LUKE!!!!!! Doc - 08:59am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7524 of 8458)
Over the last few years of hunting I have tried to keep this in mind.
"Don't read too much into the clues." After seeing this years explanations I guess I should have. Clue #5. The Wyoming with Yellowtone Park is a state not a city! greenslvs2 - 09:01am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7525 of 8458)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TICK ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Crew Members!!!! Be on the look out for ticks. Yup. I found one crawling around my tub - by boots were rite next to it. Guess stirring up all those leaves woke the little suckers (!!) up!!!
Check for ticks!!!!! R C - 09:06am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7526 of 8458)
This time of year??? Maybe it's just been hibernating on you since last summer! :-)
Looking forward to meeting everyone! Yes, even itsinmy and jm!! Allie Go - 09:08am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7527 of 8458)
To the man/woman who wrote the clues....
You did a great job and we had a lot of fun for a week. I'm completely amazed how those clues fit both Mounds and Cherokee up until Clue 7, the double division. But I'm having a little trouble with the explanations...In all honesty, I don't believe they are totally complete. Was it a coincidence that the word "fore" was used and the golf sign was on the hill? Was it a coincidence that "right zone" was used and there was no explanation as to why that was used. (I assume it was referring to the "zone sign" that had actually been taken down during the hunt. Did "aspire" actually mean nothing? How about "lucky one" used in clue one and also one more time somewhere in the clues? The word "Crack" meant nothing; true? Immeasurable riches didn't mean Joy Street? Well, maybe these are the little things that are subtle and you choose not to mention, possibly the clues for the more "involved" hunter." Well, at any rate, the hunt was a lot of fun and I'm looking forward to the same degree of cleverness. SueBee - 09:17am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7528 of 8458)
Well I had to come and see what everyone's been saying since yesterday afternoon. Now it's back to work as usual - until Sunday morning, anyway. I'm really looking forward to meeting everyone! I haven't been back to CP to find "the spot", but I'll check it out on Sunday. A sock, eh? A bit weak, if you as me. Oh and Doc, just FYI, apparently there is a Wyoming, MN. I posted the same observation as you when the clue was being discussed, as was quickly informed.
Take care all, see you Sunday!!! Goldfish Gal - 09:19am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7529 of 8458)
cooler lurker
Allie Go: I do think that "crack" meant something...just not what we thought. The word was printed on that damn tree near the medallion. Mr. Know It All - 09:20am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7530 of 8458)
I'm extremely impressed with all of you!!!! Last year on this posting board we had about 400 postings! This year we had over 7500 WOW! Good job of communication to lead the lucky duo that found it to the spot. I'd expect even more clue solving posts next year!!!!! Greg Sax hang in there, one of these years it will be our turn. mr.tomski - 09:31am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7531 of 8458)
hello cooler crew!! Sherlock - 09:36am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7532 of 8458)
SueBee & Doc, FYI - Wyoming is off 35E, north of the Hugo/Forest Lake area. Just so ya know!
And AllieGo, I agree with you - it's hard to believe ALL those words meant nothing, when we had so many meanings for them! I guess we're just too quick for our own good! S. Worel - 09:38am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7533 of 8458)
Hello all,
I was stuck here in Chicago this year and did not make the trip to St. Paul. I had no idea how much this would bother me especially after missing the first 5 clues! Irritation was the word.
Last year at least I made it back to dig in Como for fours days. I will not make the mistake of not making the trip again.
Anyway, I was reading Mr. Sax's comments about people in WI not understanding this obsession. This is even more true in Chicago where I get these blank stares every hour I was checking the website yesterday about news from Cherokee. I think my fellow employees were glad when the medallian was finally found.
I emailed several friends in MPLS to encocurage them to dig. They replied that that was a "good idea" but they dont know St. Paul and would not make the trip. I am from MPLS too, but have joined the obsession for the last 7 years. Why dont they get this?
Well, I will remember my experiences with Cherokee in 92 when I dragged a green blanket out of the river during my lunch hour because it "used to get someone warm and dry" That was my first experience and I wasnt even close to Cherokee park! Live and learn
Enjoy your picnic. I wish that I could meet you all. I definately will make the trip next year unless I end up in Korea or something.
Sunny Tom Heikkila - 09:41am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7534 of 8458)
Hello everyone. My congratulations to the finders. The newspaper article mentioned that Steve attributed the finding of the medallion to "dumb luck", hogwash! Steve, you had a plan that was solid and fit the clues, you executed that plan and worked hard and got rewarded. You also read the clues right. Though not way off in reading the clues, I did tend to put too much into some of the words and phrases. Congrats to the PPMCC, you all have made this a fun year to hunt. I enjoyed reading most of the posts, I wish some would have gone away, and overall was impressed by the ability to share ideas even though it could help someone else find the treasure. I hope to see you all on Sunday. Finally, thanks to the clue writers that kept us up all night racking our brains to figure out what they were telling us, you did a great job. Mr. Know It All - 09:57am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7535 of 8458)
Goldfish Gal!!! Those little goldfish are my favorite! Darn, now you made me hungry! Tom Clancy - 10:28am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7536 of 8458)
ooooops. Wrong Cooler. steven worthman - 10:29am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7537 of 8458)
It was a pleasure to see so many of you this year. I truely appreciate the nice comments about the book and plan to have a value added updated version for next year. It should be ready by December if my schedule permits. Look for it at the Hungry Mind Bookstore and the Map Store as usual. Also, feel free to e-mail me at jsrworth@aol.com.
Any ideas to help make a better product are welcome. Sponsorship, perhaps with coupon inserts would make it cheaper to produce, so any help in this area would be appreciated. I'll try to check my e-mail once a week throughout the year.
I'm putting my money on Phalen next year. See ya there.
"The Book Guy", Steve Worthman Tom Clancy - 10:29am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7538 of 8458)
ooooops. Wrong Cooler. greenslvs2 - 10:44am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7539 of 8458)
Steve!!! Come to The Re-Hash Bash Sunday!!! Goldfish Gal - 10:48am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7540 of 8458)
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Just wanted to add my input after reading all the cooler input. Wasn't really able to post earlier, but of course after it's all over I have the chance. I've been going over clues with y'all and even managed to dig for a few of the nights, since I only live 10 blocks away from Cherokee. I'm a life long Minneapolis gal who had always envied the diggers each year, as I knew nothing about St Paul, having just moved there this last year. But around the 6th clue, I though, hey! That sounds like the park by my house! When I was convinced it was Cherokee, I went the last couple of nights and was basically overwhelmed by the whole scene. First of all, it was at night, which is *terrible* for hunting, since you could miss anything that looks "not quite right." During the day, you definitely have the advantage.
Second of all, everything was ripped apart and looked like the surface of the moon. I didn't know where to begin! The second to last night, near midnight, someone started whooping and then everyone seemed to join in whoopin' and hollerin' and I had to just stand there and stare. It was all so weird and surreal.
I wish a could have joined in the cooler talk much earlier, but just wanted to say "hi!" and thanks for the entertainment! Holly Wood - 10:53am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7541 of 8458)
(Counting Off 10 Paces on the Walk of Fame)
I'll be at the breakfast Sunday... and checking the WC later this aft (2PM) if anyone wants to continue the postmortem....
This has been my first serious hunt and it was an adventure (like traveling,etc.) I followed the Grateful Dead for a few years (job permitting) and this is the closest I've come to feeling that 'free-wheeling sense of community and finding yourself'! Rock on my fellow Cooler-Heads and keep the feeling alive all year long! davidm - 11:06am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7542 of 8458)
Let me first off add my congratulations to the winners! I only hope to someday be able to experience the same excitement myself.
Although I cursed out some of the clues during the hunt, after reading the explanation I have to say they were pretty good clues. And still vague enough to keep people hunting almost to the end. I've been addicted to the hunt since 1971, when the medallion was hidden right across the street from my grade school--at Wakefield Park. My "closest call" was in 1993, when both my dad and I found a diaper blowing through Hidden Falls Park, but would not look into it for obvious reasons! Imagine how my heart sank when I heard the winner found the treasure in a diaper! Thank god THAT diaper was buried in the snow.
We were also there on Tues. nite/Wed. a.m. when people started whooping. How juvenile (and inconsiderate to all of the people on Chippewa avenue trying to sleep.)
I keep hoping each year for Phalen also, as I grew up just a couple of blocks away. I'm afraid the medallion organizers might be afraid of Phalen though, because part of it is in Maplewood, and Maplewood officials have bitched ever since the medallion was in Wakefield!
Oh well, see you all next year! (My guess--in some little dinky park, or somewhere in downtown St. Paul.) Greg Sax - 11:08am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7543 of 8458)
Can't seem to stop hitting the "Recent" button every now and again. Glad to see many of you are still sharing thoughts. There's nothing wrong with a little postmortem. The good thing about the "death" that comes with the medallion find is that it's reborn every year.
I had a chance to read Jim Walsh's article on the finders of the medallion. I especially liked how Maureen Hursey said she locked herself in the truck with the medallion. What a nice moment that must've been. I also like how she thought her brother was kidding her in a sibling kind of way even though they're both in their 30s. Very nice. I haven't been this happy for the finders since Battle Creek.
I'll keep clickin' through until I hear how the shindig went on Sunday. I'll see if I can't get a couple of friends to go in my place. They hung around the Water Cooler with me when I was in town last weekend and were completely into it. Until I came home nobody was digging.....on Saturday night there were 8 of us. Part of that is thanks to the motivational waters of the Water Cooler.
Hey, I got a new motto for the PPMCC. Something catchy, retro, and easy to put on a button:
You dig?
I'll make 'em if you'll buy 'em. Take it easy, all. Brad J. Brunner - 11:31am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7544 of 8458)
I hope the folks at the Saint Paul Festival and Heritage Foundation have taken note of all the cooler discussion. The hunt itself, and all spirit shown in the water cooler, really show what Saint Paul is all about. The whole thing reminded me of the first few years of the Saints, when people from all over Saint Paul found new friendships with others in the stands. The Saints, the medallion hunt, Grand Old Day--these things are what will keep me in Saint Paul forever.
It seems to me that the Heritage Foundation could use some new blood to increase interest in other parts of the carnival. The button designs could be a little snazzier and there could be more events that bring Saint Paulites from all walks of life together.
Any thoughts from anyone else? greenslvs2 - 11:47am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7545 of 8458)
GREG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WANT A BUTTON!!!!!! White background??? greenslvs2 - 11:55am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7546 of 8458)
See Post #7523 For Re-Hash Bash Info!!!
Update: Talked to P&R Dept. Don't need permit, don't need nuttin'! There are eight outlets at the 'mushroom', I think she called it, and all eight are working and functional.
So, it's a go for Sunday!!!!
I'll be slogging thru the posts tonite and making a list of what people will be bringing. At this writing the coffee is taken care of. If you'd like to contribute additional food, etc., e-mail me, if you would, as that would be easier for me than slogging thru posts!!!
Thanks!!! Will be back from time to time w/updates, if needed.
Be sure to check out other Cooler's! The Green Team - 11:57am Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7547 of 8458)
This hunt was the first of my married life with my new husband, the second for me total. Gosh, I thought for sure we'd find it! I was a little confused about the clues relating to the dome and a large object in view. When the dome was mentioned, I thought for sure it was the cathedral dome, as it's visible right next to the smoke stack. I thought for sure the smoke stack was the large object in view, as it's the biggest thing you can see from the park! I wish there had been a specification/clue that it was the capitol dome, not the cathedral dome. How were we supposed to figure that out??? Oh, well. It was fun. My arms are so sore from chipping snow that it's hard to type or write! Mr. Know It All - 12:10pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7548 of 8458)
I will do my best to make it to the re-hash. On a very tight schedule Sunday. Hope to see yall there. greenslvs2 - 12:19pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7549 of 8458)
Is there a kind soul out there that's willing to slog and try and get a count for Sunday, so that *I* don't have to????? :) Greg Sax - 12:21pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7550 of 8458)
It's funny that Brad J. Brunner mentioned the St. Paul Saints here. That's my #2 St. Paul obsession and it truly allows for the St. Paul spirit to continue in the warmer months. I've slept outside of Midway Stadium for tickets twice and have been to road games in Sioux Falls and Madison. But the truly-true fan of the Saints is Bill Tyler, a very approachable man who runs a great Saints web site. The official site is also rather nice, particularly for press releases and box scores. Check these out:
www.nlfan.com
spsaints.com Greg Sax - 12:26pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7551 of 8458)
greenslvs2: My guess is you don't really need a head count. Just from reading past posts, it sounds like you'll have as many as 20 to 30, but my guess is that people will stop by out of curiosity and won't eat/drink too much. The mushrooms at Cherokee should accommodate just fine -- even if you get 50. If people didn't mind digging alone in packed snow for hours, they won't mind standing around with a bunch of nice people. And if the gathering goes beyond your wildest expectations, there's always another trip to SA! greenslvs2 - 12:30pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7552 of 8458)
We need a Saint's thread!!!
A good friend of mine takes vacation every year and sleeps out for tickets. As soon as the schedule is printed, she's got one and planning and figuring which games to get how many tickets for. She and her husband buy I don't know how many - she's the one that turned me on the the Saints. I've fond memories of the Futon Gallery!!!!!! LOL!!! They go on the road trips and she's a Booster, or something like that. Does a ton of stuff for them...
Thax. Will check out the sites!!!
Looking forward to seeing your friends Sunday. Really neat idea with the buttons, but we still need something logoed and the date each year that specifically ties to the PPMCC. I'm working on an idea!!!! A. Metal Detective - 12:36pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7553 of 8458)
Greenslvs, I know you have been planning the re-hash bash, but I was wondering something and I didn't want to check through all of the old logs. Has anybody invited Casey to our bash? I think it would be neat, that is if he can come. What do you think? greenslvs2 - 12:42pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7554 of 8458)
I did, A. Let me slog a minute and I'll find his reply that I forwarded!!! I'm still hoping he makes it!! A. Metal Detective - 12:44pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7555 of 8458)
Are you going to post it here or send it to my e-mail? greenslvs2 - 12:45pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7556 of 8458)
All: A copy of Casey's answer to invite...
greenslvs2 - 08:02pm Feb 4, 1998 CST (#7393 of 7555)
All PPMCC Members... I've just had my heart touched by an angel...
You know that we HAD to have caused the PP a bunch a probs with our enjoyment and fun of this particular Cooler, what
with clogging up the server constantly, etc... And you KNOW what a dear Casey was to us - always honest, rite there when
we needed him, always cheerful, willing to help and soothe our feathers when we got riled by something/someone...
So, I privately invited him to The First Annual PPMCC Re-Hash Bash. Well, like, if he's not a member with all he's done/did
for us... Then none of us are members!!!
This is what Casey replied:
"greenslvs2,
Thanks for the invite. I'm sure my ability to attend will depend entirely on my ability to recover from my Saturday night poker
game.
Anyway, the massive participation in the Water Cooler has been quite the buzz around the PP. And if I can't come, please
extend my thanks to the PPWCC for a fun and lively discussion board.
Cheers,
Casey Trauer Planet night editor"
Nice guy, Casey. Let's all hope he makes it Sunday!!!!
Thought my fellow members would be proud - wanted to forward it on to you.
Green greenslvs2 - 12:55pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7557 of 8458)
Best way to thank Casey - and the entire PP - is to use and recommend the Coolers. He wanted me to "shamelessly plug them." Heck, I'm not ashamed - these things are the greatest thing since the invention of the 'puter!!! - and have been telling everyone at work how neat they are. I hope you all will do the same.
Besides, we can continue to meet there [in the other Coolers] and discuss those topics together.
Tho, you've my word that I will NOT push "Tom Clancy" logo-wear, buttons, paraphinalia, get togethers, etc!!!!! LOL!!! greenslvs2 - 01:09pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7558 of 8458)
Greg: This whole hunt, Cooler, input, commaraderie, humor, intelligence, logo-wear, get-to-gether-thingy, etc., has already gone beyond my wildest expectations!!!
In this day and age, most folks are so appethetic and refuse to get involved in anything. But not here!!! Not PPMCC Members!!! Not us guys!!!
This is the greatest!!! Tom Clancy - 01:18pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7559 of 8458)
Oh, come on now. Slam Ian - 01:37pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7560 of 8458)
READ MESSAGE 8268
Greg, I want four buttons. Holly Wood - 01:45pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7561 of 8458)
(Counting Off 10 Paces on the Walk of Fame)
Hey Greenslvs2 - you're a good leader! I plan on bringing a dozen polish sausage, buns and mustard to Sunday's gig. I don't know what a mushroom is but I plan on looking for people near the firepit. Thanks again for the organizational effort, I too feel a kinship and sense of comraderie! R C - 01:53pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7562 of 8458)
Greg - It would be nice if you could get the buttons by Sunday - but I'm sure this would be too soon. But, I'd like 2 of them! See ya then! Holly Wood - 01:54pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7563 of 8458)
(Counting Off 10 Paces on the Walk of Fame)
Hey Ian,
I like the 'VINYLagain' page!....know of any other medallion pages??? SueBee - 01:55pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7564 of 8458)
Hi gang. I double that, Greenslvs. Thanks so much for the effort to put together the bash on Sunday. I'm looking forward to it. I'll bring a couple bags of chips. The commaraderie and social aspect of the cooler has been wonderful. People can be so cynical and suspicious these days; it's nice to know there are fun, friendly, cool people out there. We'll have to get together for a Saints game this summer. I have to confess, I've never been to one. They sound like a blast though. And I'd purchase PPCC paraphenalia too! I like the "You Dig?" idea. ryan ekland - 02:00pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7565 of 8458)
what are we talking about greenslvs2 - 02:21pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7566 of 8458)
Hollywood, SueBee - (((((((()))))))'s to you guys!!! You two are WAY TOO COOLER ahead of me!!! I've started my list of what's coming - put you two down, so you don't have to e-mail me.
I'm bringing potatoe salad. Here are other things I thought of if someone wants to bring:
We could use 1.5 doz ears of corn (to be cut into thirds); I've a big kettle to cook them in.
Somebody want to bring baked beans?
Deviled egss - LOTS OF WORK!!! :( - is another idea.
Again, there will be coffee for everyone. But, basically, bring what you'll need for *your* needs - plates, utensils, food, etc. Again, anything else is xtra....
Looks this is gonna be a great initial Re-Hash Bash!!! I can't wait!! Ain't Talkin Bout Fontana - 02:21pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7567 of 8458)
I hope Cherokee Park slides into the Mississippi during your "bash" with all aboard. Holly Wood - 02:30pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7568 of 8458)
(Counting Off 10 Paces on the Walk of Fame)
Now you don't really mean that ATBF do you? After all, wouldn't that crush you if you are down on the riverbank, smoking pot and sniffin' Testors rubber cement with trash can man and joe-joe? Big Money! - 02:39pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7569 of 8458)
Leave ATBF alone! He's my neighbor, and I know that he's a really good guy! Big Money! - 02:41pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7570 of 8458)
How close were all of you with your guesses? I was a measly 5 yards away from the darn thing! Ain't Talkin Bout Fontana - 03:01pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7571 of 8458)
Actually Mr. Wood at that particular time I was planning on doing my ritual smoking and sniffing by your Mama's house. Ain't Talkin Bout Fontana - 03:35pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7572 of 8458)
Will someone please tell me when the party is? It will be important to contact Guiness before hand so they will be there to do a head count on what promises to be the largest congregation of dorks ever. Holly Wood - 03:40pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7573 of 8458)
(Counting Off 10 Paces on the Walk of Fame)
My mom died of cancer 12 years ago Mr. ATBF.... Wright Winger - 03:48pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7574 of 8458)
99 YEAR OF THE COOLER
Ah, thats sad to hear Holly, but do all of the coolers know about the pic-a-nic? cuz alot of them havent posted anything since monday or early tuesday thinking this is over, and its far from over. oh yes, we wont let the hunt die. Shelly - 04:01pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7575 of 8458)
As I've said before, I've been reading this religiously since last week and I have to say that 99.5% of the people posting sound very nice and seem to be really enjoying themselves -- why is it that some people have to come on here and act like complete idiots? I realize that right now I'm stooping to their level but it really pisses me off. Anyway, greenslvs2, Greg Sax, Sue Bee and so on -- thanks for letting me read with you these past couple of weeks. I found myself wrapped up in this medallion thing for the first time! I hope you all have a wonderful time at your bash. (as you can tell, I'm still addicted because I keep hitting "recent") SueBee - 04:02pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7576 of 8458)
For anyone not soggin' through ALL old messages, check out message 7523 for details about the first annual PPCC Re-hash Bash at Cherokee park on Sunday, Feb. 8 1998 starting at 11:30pm. Be there or be un-cool!! R C - 04:04pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7577 of 8458)
It's hard to break the habit, isn't it? What do I have to live for after today? Oh yeah! NEXT YEAR! Maybe Silver Lake Park . . . Desnoyer . . . Arlington Fields . . . Sylvan??? The possibilities are endless! SueBee - 04:07pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7578 of 8458)
Me too, Shelly. I'm addicted. I've been out hunting a couple of times in the past (I was at Hidden Falls the night before the medallion was found in '93 -ooh so close) and hung out in the cooler last year too, but this is my first die-hard, get out there and dig till your arms fall off year. I loved it. I have to be honest and say my boyfriend did most of the hard work wielding the long handled ice scraper, but I held a mean flashlight for him!
Big Money - I was about that far away on Tuesday night myself. Ah, so close but yet too far! Next year.... SueBee - 04:09pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7579 of 8458)
Wonder if they'll ever not hide it in a major park again. I was reading some of the old spots - 35E and Victoria, the bottom of a mailbox at 7th and Robert - TOO FUNNY! Can you just imagine all 300 of us stopping downtown traffic to dig around mailboxes? I suppose the hunt has become so big now that they have to plan to accomodate all those cars and bodies. R C - 04:15pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7580 of 8458)
No, I don't think they'll do that again. But I'd like to see it in a smaller park next year. Ain't Talkin Bout Fontana - 04:21pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7581 of 8458)
I used to search for the truth and the light in the Cooler. Last year at Como I was logged on often and constructively at that; even this year for that matter. Now ,however, I 've become an evil disciple of Joe Medallion. I've changed my name too in the Islamic sense. His teachings guide me. davidm - 04:25pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7582 of 8458)
Right on, Shelly!
SueBee, where did you find the list of past hiding spots? I saved one from the 93 paper but of course, it's now out of date. Re. the medallion hid underneatht the mailbox @ 7th and Robert, that was well (or at least a bit!) before I was born, but my parents have told me the story of how when the lady found it, she went screaming up 7th st. on her way to the paper, and almost got mugged by some kids! I also recall the same thing happening when I was 10 years old in 1971, when an old guy found the medallion tied to a buried wagon wheel in Wakefield Park. Some kids chased him up the HUGE hill and he just barely got away! And we think kids today are the only bad ones! I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same! Tom Clancy - 04:33pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7583 of 8458)
David,
You will find the complete list at http://members.aol.com/VINYLagain/Medallion.html
Your welcome. Moniker Lewinsky - 04:33pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7584 of 8458)
Q: What's the difference between "Aint Talking Bout Fontana" and an anal polyp?
A: The anal polyp has someone who cares about it!
(SCRAM YOU VENEREAL WART) upallnight - 04:40pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7585 of 8458)
Might i suddgest we push the pioneer planet people to setup a true chat room for the HUNT next year. This would make the world a much happer place. Be happy all you hunters untill next year.
If you would like to contact me my email is
eekstrand@geocities.com
You can contact Shotting Star there also. Ain't Talkin Bout Fontana - 04:46pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7586 of 8458)
On the contrary Moniker, apparently I'm your polyp and that makes me feel special and snug because its quite tight in here. Check your spelling also you're not very well versed. greenslvs2 - 04:46pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7587 of 8458)
RC: Answered your mail!
Folks: I'm gonna slog and get a handle on who's bringing what and who's attending Sunday. Will be back.
Shelly: Why don't you come to The First Annual PPMCC Re-Hash Bash? You lurked... hou should come. It's gonna be fun!!!!
(Deleted item originally posted by Ain't Talkin Bout Fontana on 04:48pm Feb 5, 1998 CST)Broken Handle - 04:50pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7589 of 8458)
I am ready for next year.
I will find it then.
Good bye all Greg Sax - 05:17pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7590 of 8458)
davidm did something a few posts back that I was hoping to see at this point. He gave a couple of stories from past hunts. If you have anything you can remember reading or seeing with your own eyes, please share.
upallnight: I, too, would like to see a chat forum for this, but I worry that we wouldn't be able to, as greenslvs2 puts it, "slog" through old messages or do a "Search" on names. Granted, there's always going to be those who post blindly, but having the option to go back and read the thread (like with newsgroups) saves the conversation from become hackneyed. Ideally, I would like to see both a chat room and a continuation of this newsgroup-like Water Cooler. That way we can talk fast right when the clues come out (chat) and get a little more perspective when the fury has subsided (Cooler). Ian - 05:47pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7591 of 8458)
READ MESSAGE 8268
For us, the "hunt" is a family activity. My wife and two sons (11 and 15)are sometimes even more avid than me.We really became hooked when it was at Highland and have been in the game ever since. New Daddy - 05:56pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7592 of 8458)
Greensleeves 2, or Greg Sax, or whoever did you ever get the name of the guide book for the medallion hunt? I'd like to get it but don't know where.
If you still need someone to bring bake beans put me down for them.
(Deleted item originally posted by Garcia Sanchez on 05:59pm Feb 5, 1998 CST)Garcia Sanchez - 06:03pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7594 of 8458)
hey!!!!!!!!!!! read this message!!!! that medallion those people supposedly found at cherokee park, wasnt the real medallion, its still out there!!!!!!!!! the one they found was placed there by my freinds as a practical joke!!! go find the real one!!!! the hunts not over yet!!!!!!!!!!!! greenslvs2 - 06:06pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7595 of 8458)
Greg: You're so succint. I love it as I'm verbose!!! I think what you're asking is going to come to pass over this coming year - Casey said that he'd be willing to give us space to like, chat (not a direct quote - my interpertation) and the PP would would be brain-dead NOT to have another PPMWC next year. It sounds to me that we'll even be able to talk like during this summer to schedule the Pre-Hunt get-togeher, etc., in the chat area for the Med Hunt. I think... Been slogging... and ingested lots of info.
FYI... have noted things I want to print and read or have the writer read Sunday. Will go back and get the "stories."
Can you do a Web page for us where we can consolidate all the Med Hunt stuff???? greenslvs2 - 06:10pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7596 of 8458)
ND: Yur down for beans!!!! THANKS!!!! greenslvs2 - 06:12pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7597 of 8458)
Greg: Casey's last post (#??) said to e-mail him if we were interested in a chat area. Tho he's reading this, I did. You should to. But find his post first as I may not be quoting correctly. greenslvs2 - 06:14pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7598 of 8458)
Nd:
The first one is called "The Official 1987 Winter Carnival Treasure
Hunters Guide. Clues, locales, etc from 1952 thru 1986. Written,
edited and published by Kirk D. and Lori Larson. Looks rather low
budget but good information. There is a note on the front cover
"Proceeds to support future Winter Carnival Activities"
The second one is the "ST. PAUL PARKS A Treasure Hunter's Guide 1996"
It's copyrighted - 1995 Hunter's Press ($8.00)
Hunter's Press, 2141 Palace Ave., St. Paul, MN 55105
The tag from the Hungry Mind Book Store has Worthman,S. The same steve
worthman from the Cooler.
Didn't he say he was updating or had updated it? Included are rec
centers where it has never been hidden and includes none of the Ramsey
County Parks. Decent maps too. Found a few errors but is a decent
resource.
ND, the above is from one of us.... Terry Valentime, I'm pretty sure. Me and C, and Black Widow are going to study this summer!!! That's why I asked for the info. Hope it helps you!!! VINYLcollector - 06:20pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7599 of 8458)
http://members.aol.com/VINYLagain/Medallion.html
THANKS Garcia ! I'm getting about 10 buddies and heading right out. Wanna meet? greenslvs2 - 06:21pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7600 of 8458)
FELLOW CREW MEMEBERS: THE FOLLOWING IS A LIST OF ATTENDEES THIS COMING SUNDAY (as of this writing) TO THE FIRST ANNUAL PPMCC RE-HASH BASH:
Greenslvs2, Cheryl & Hubs, ItsInMy, Caribou, New Daddy, Matt, Mr. Tomski, Westsiders, Black Widow, Samsa, Girl With The Most Cake, Dave Young, RC, Suebee, Holly Wood.
Those that follow are "possibles" depending upon time, etc.:
Whitey-Black, Deb Speidel (she never said if she was coming...), Ben Hunting, Monica Ehman, Shovel Boy, Wes Evans, Beeyob, Dan Fish, and Mr. Know It All. greenslvs2 - 06:22pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7601 of 8458)
Honorariums if not attending:
Casey, Greg Sax, Terry Valentine, Ian, and Digger greenslvs2 - 06:27pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7602 of 8458)
Who's Bringing What:
Holy Wood - about 1 doz. polish/buns/mustard
SueBee - Chips and name tags
Green - potatoe salad/coffe, sugar, creamer
RC - Cookies
Matt - couple extra steaks
Giddy - may bring bagels and donuts... but wants guidance and I've not talked to him/her since confuser went down last nite!
New Daddy - baked beans
E&H's Mom is supplying the coffee makers. She doesn't know if she'll come, so will see if I can run by and pick them up if she and the fam can't make it.
Cheryl is doing the water.
Black Widow has given me her # and I'm to call if there's anything we need once I get to the park as she'll prolly be at the grocery store before coming by. VINYLcollector - 06:28pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7603 of 8458)
http://members.aol.com/VINYLagain/Medallion.html
Thanks, Green I won't be able to make it. (IAN) greenslvs2 - 06:31pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7604 of 8458)
If any Members want to bring something to share, think summer:
1.5 doz ears of corn on the cob. They can be cut in thirds to go around. I've a big kettle to cook them in.
Deviled eggs, tho really time consuming. But, it's an idea!
MARSHMELLOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE NEED MARSHMELLOWS!!!!
I will be bringing my red tobbagan to transport stuff. The kids (no matter age!!! LOL!!!) are free to use it on the "zoom" hill if they want. More sleds/tobbagans and we can have races!
I will bring some charcol, tho we may need more. I will also have trash bags... and will be picking up the CRAP everyone left while hunting. Feel free to give me a hand if ya'wanna.
Let me know if I've forgotten anything and if you wanna contribute.
It's gonna be SO MUCH FUN!!!! Wright Winger - 06:37pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7605 of 8458)
99 YEAR OF THE COOLER
About the rest of us, I would like to come too, but depends on time. as of what else to bring, i have no clue. greenslvs2 - 06:38pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7606 of 8458)
Ian, I know. See "Honorarium" section! greenslvs2 - 06:41pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7607 of 8458)
Wright: You don't have to bring a thing. It's only if you want. What's more important is that *you* are there. Cheryl told me that she met you and that you're... ah... well... younger than the adults. So, boyo!!! just make sure YOU'RE THERE and don't worry about bringing anything but your happy face and humor and whit!! Brian Smith - 07:07pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7608 of 8458)
There should be a celebration, picnic sponsored by the Pioneer press where the Medallion was found ? Don't you think? Anyone? R C - 07:08pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7609 of 8458)
We'll bring our sleds! ZOOMING races!! This will be fun! If I remember, I'll pick up some marshmallows too. R C - 07:11pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7610 of 8458)
Brian: read message #7523 VINYLcollector - 07:25pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7611 of 8458)
http://members.aol.com/VINYLagain/Medallion.html
GREEN-this just hit me !! Ask Jim Walsh !! Get some free publicity ?? greenslvs2 - 07:27pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7612 of 8458)
RC... You're such a sweetheart! Remind me that if you forget and get there early to call Black Widow.
Did you get my e-mail?
(I'm back! After unclogging the confuser's memory!!) greenslvs2 - 07:28pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7613 of 8458)
What hit you, Ian???? A fly ball???
KNOW WHAT HIT ME?????????????????????????????????
11:30!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SAME TIME AS WE GOT THE MESSAGES HERE!!!!! TOO WEIRD FOR ME!!!! greenslvs2 - 07:33pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7614 of 8458)
And, no. I did NOT plan that. SueBee - a MAJOR contributor - has church until 11:00 and couldn't be here before then. So, I was just giving her a 1/2 to get things together. It wasn't until tonite, driving home for work that the time HIT ME!!!! LOL!!!! This was meant to be! greenslvs2 - 07:38pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7615 of 8458)
Ian.... You still here? What are you talking about??????? BeeyoB - 07:45pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7616 of 8458)
Hey gang, I seem to be afflicted with RoBBeD syndrome, or Recent Button Bungled Digit syndrome. If it had to go, it seems it went to good folks! Now, I sits, and I thinks....I have no purpose, no goals. Back to icefishing I guess. Looking----> to Sunday. I'll bring...I'm not sure what I'll bring. Consider it a surprise (fish anyone?). B. BeeyoB - 07:50pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7617 of 8458)
I been sitting and thinking...I work p-time for a seafood distrib guy, and it seems the snow crab season started about two weeks ago in Alaska. Better than eelpout. No promises, but I'll see what I can do (he owes me!). greenslvs2 - 07:54pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7618 of 8458)
Beeyob... You're a definate, then!!! GREAT!!!! Looking forward to seeing you!!! Don't gotta bring a thing but what you want to cook out... Read up and see what folks are bringing. Just come and relieve the fun we all had here!!!! HAIL COOLER HAND LUKE!! greenslvs2 - 07:57pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7619 of 8458)
Beeyob!!! I'll give you my porterhouse for crab... Ah, well!!! FOR SNOW CRAB!!!! Should I have someone bring some lemons??????????? greenslvs2 - 08:00pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7620 of 8458)
Eelpout hugs you, tho. Never been hugged by a fish. Want to do the eelpout thing up north - at least once. LOVE to fish... AND EAT IT... (hint, hint, hint) Headlines will read next day:
"Stillwater Woman Kills 50 People To Have All The Crabs"
LOL!!!! VINYLcollector - 08:01pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7621 of 8458)
http://members.aol.com/VINYLagain/Medallion.html
Sorry, for the delay. Maybe we could get some free publicity ??!!?? Greg Sax - 08:02pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7622 of 8458)
greenslvs2: If I'm to make buttons -- and believe me, I can have them ready for the rehash bash -- I need to know what to put on them. I still can't really tell what we're calling ourselves. I've seen you use PPMCC and PPWCC in your past posts (go ahead and slog now if you don't remember). Actually, I think both are a mouthful, but I was never really into WATER COOLER CREW either. I can deal with the letters though -- just tell me if the middle letter is "M" or "W". I'm pretty sure it's "M".
"You dig?" will center the button, but I'd like to put the acronym and full name (It stands for Pioneer Press Medallion Cooler Crew, right?) with the year on it. Color is expensive, so I'd like to keep it all black-and-white, which should be fine since white is our primary color anyway.
So have we taken this thing too far yet? Sure. But that's the fun, ain't it?
This book that keeps coming up -- the '87 Treasure Guide -- I knew about it, but I could never find it. It was published for the Winter Carnival Association, that's about all the further I got with it. As I recall, it's not at any of the local libraries. Could be wrong.
Here...let me start a new post... greenslvs2 - 08:03pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7623 of 8458)
Cheryl: Where are you??? I need you to slog and get caught up! I wanted to call you at work today, but left your number(s) at home. Where are you???????? greenslvs2 - 08:04pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7624 of 8458)
Hang, Ian. Got a big thing here.
Greg: emmy & hannah's mom - 08:04pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7625 of 8458)
Have to see what this graphic looks like -- I'm sure it's pretty dorky, but OH WELL!! Bad news -- my parents say they can't find their coffee urns. I feel really bad since I sort of already committed. They're in their 70's (no offense if anyone is approaching the "golden years") and it seems they are misplacing more and more things. Even worse, they live in a HUGE house in crocus hill absolutely filled with, well a little of everything, I guess. Anyway, I'm rambling. I can for sure bring a bunch of coffee cups. (I know I have those!) I am still trying to locate a coffee urn from my parents' church, it's a long shot, but what the heck? greenslvs2 - 08:08pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7626 of 8458)
I've never (unless brain-dead) used "PPWCC." Snot me! I truly, in my heart, feel that we should be "PPMCC" to distinguish us from the other Coolers that the PP has for other topics over the year. We, the "M" Cooler, are the only Cooler that will be returning on a yearly basis, not to mention we're about (Please, Casey!!!) to have our own chat room. IMNSHO, it cannot be anything BUT PPMCC. However, do put it to a vote of the rest of the Crew if you feel that necessary. I will bow to the majority.
Continued... greenslvs2 - 08:13pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7627 of 8458)
Re: second paragraph... hang on, I gotta go back and forth due to messages....
Yes!!! "You dig?" And center it. Yes, stands for "Pioneer Press Medallion Cooler Crew." Terry Valentine - 08:13pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7628 of 8458)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!
Greenslvs2 - have the ice breaker ready for Sunday. Would like to e-mail to you as an attachment from Word 7.0. Don't even know if it's possible. Does anyone know how???? Worked on it when I first got home and couldn't tie up the phone line at the Cooler.
Saw the honorarium - thanks.
Got an e-mail from Casey. He says his boss is quite interested in the
Cooler wear idea! greenslvs2 - 08:16pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7629 of 8458)
Greg: Yes, year - THAT IS SO IMPORTANT!!! And, since we're grass-roots rite now and have no backing from PP (tho I hope that will change in the coming year) go with the B&W to keep costs down.
Do you have a idea of cost? Don't want to soak The Crew for too much.
A thought I had... These buttons of yours, particularly if we can get the sponsorship of the PP for 1999, will be worth a FORTUNE in the coming years!!!! Desire-to-win - 08:19pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7630 of 8458)
Greg Sax: You can order the St. Paul Parks - A Treasure Hunter's Guide from Hunter's Press, 2141 Palace Ave., St. Paul, MN 55105. Need to reserve a copy now because they have only a limited number produced. Axel - 08:20pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7631 of 8458)
I work at a bar and grill in White Bear and today the people that found the medallion came in. They are very nice people and were happy to tell me all about it. They even showed me the sock it was in. greenslvs2 - 08:20pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7632 of 8458)
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We need coffee makers for Sunday!!! I can bring mine... a 12'er!!! Need at LEAST two more!!!! ANYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't worry about it, Terry!!! You tried and you're hearts in the rite place. At least you thought to bring cups, somehting I didn't!!!
Casey contacted you about the logoed-wear????? Really???? NEAT!! Can you send him my way... I've contacted two companies today... wrote one off... The other is interested, even if we ARE poor!!! greenslvs2 - 08:24pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7633 of 8458)
Terry, read mail. BeeyoB - 08:25pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7634 of 8458)
Terry, if the doc you need to send isn't the format you want, send it to me and have the recipient let me know a format that works for them, and a destination email address. Yeah, Mac OS8. Am I still invited to the party? Crab legs and ....um...lobster? Terry Valentine - 08:26pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7635 of 8458)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!
Greenslvs2 - it's emmy and hannah's mom that thought about the cups and is looking for other coffee urns.
I hope someone can tell me how to e-mail an attachment from Word 7.0 to you for Sunday's bash. The Ice Breaker! greenslvs2 - 08:26pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7636 of 8458)
Terry, my mail didn't get to you. Will try again. emmy & hannah's mom - 08:27pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7637 of 8458)
I've got a 12 cupper to bring to along with prolly 10-15 mugs. So someone else will need to contiriute in the cup dept, too, either "real" or plastic. I don't know what else is needed, I'd be happy to bring something else... Maybe some type of treat/dessert thing? Terry Valentine - 08:30pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7638 of 8458)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!
Greenslvs2 - checked the preferencesfor my mail. Somehow the .net got changed to .com. Should be ok now. Thanks greenslvs2 - 08:32pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7639 of 8458)
Going nutz trying to answer everyone.
(deep breath)
Terry: resent my mail about the Ice Breaker.
E&H Mom: Sorry about the confusion. Anyway. Your coffee maker and mine, and prolly Cheryl's (CHERYL!!! YOU HERE YET???) and coffee cups should do the trick. We're not gonna start sweating the small stuff now.
Now, Ian... What was it you wanted?????? SueBee - 08:35pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7640 of 8458)
Hi gang. Checking back in. Can hardly believe the bash on Sunday's getting to be so big. It's gonna be AWESOME! I just thought of something else - I'll pick up some paper plates. That's a lot easier than everyone lugging real plates etc. from home. Maybe someone could pick up some plastic utensils. Granted, it's not as enviro friendly, but....
And Green, I hadn't really thought about the 11:30 thing either - bizzare. Must be fate. :-) greenslvs2 - 08:36pm Feb 5, 1998 CST (#7641 of 8458)
Greg: Did you get my input... for what it's worth??? LOL!!! Yust one opinion, mind you.
Terry: Gotten anything from me yet?
E&H's Mom: If you can bring fake cups, that would be great. A dessert would be asking too much. Talked Hubs into this??? LOL!!! Can't wait to met you!!! 
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