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Hunt for the Pioneer Press medallion!

The Pioneer Press medallion has been found. Details are at our Winter Carnival page.

The hunt's over, but the discussion rages on ...

(6747 previous messages)
mr.tomski - 01:10am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6748 of 8458)

SORRY

Amy Trandahl - 01:12am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6749 of 8458)

personally, if i worked on the clues i guess i would hide it in a newspaper, then they could sell more than they are now! Just kidding i want to go to bed really bad but i can't till my guy calls to tell me he found it! lol

David Allison - 01:13am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6750 of 8458)

If I were as evil as the creator of this hunt is, and there wasn't a lot of snow at the time, I think I would put it in some crevice, fill it with water, and let it freeze thereby making it indistinguishable from all the other ice around.

don fleming - 01:13am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6751 of 8458)

Mr. tomski, you're stretchin it when you say twinkies have pitchers

Dave - 01:14am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6752 of 8458)

BeeYoB You Still There?

mr.tomski - 01:15am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6753 of 8458)

I JUST WOULD`NT HIDE IT,THEN WRITE CLUES THAT SENT PEOPLE TO A DIFFERENT PARK EACH TIME. THEN SIT HERE AND LISTEN

emmy & hannah's mom - 01:15am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6754 of 8458)

Well, if I'm going to make it out of bed at the crack of dawn with hubby's alarm, I'd best be getting some sleep. I just hope it wakes me up. I was used to getting up at 4:30 every day, but just got laid of a few weeks back, (boy would $3000 be nice!), and I don't think I've heard an alarm since!

BeeyoB - 01:16am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6755 of 8458)

No go, but updates to follow. If we don't check in, then assume we got tired/cold/drunk(?)/bored/confused/battsdead. Until Weds AM? We'll let you know if anything comes up, down, etc. Everything in life has turned into a clue.

Amy Trandahl - 01:16am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6756 of 8458)

if I were the "evil" creator, i would keep it in my pocket and go hang out at cherokee tonight and watch the poor suckers dig the poor suckers like me! i'm sure the guy who knows is out there and thinking "ohhhh! a little to the left, one more scoop! oh, your right in top of it!

David Allison - 01:17am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6757 of 8458)

Oh well. I guess if I don't have the ambition to go out there I might as well just go to bed now and read about it in the morning. I'm still going to make the wild guess its hidden in a Minnesota Twins souvenir cup.

David Allison - 01:19am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6758 of 8458)

Actually I wonder if the Pioneer Press has a spy out there, watching, waiting. How else would they know if you waited more than 20 minutes. Keep an eye out for suspicious lollygaggers.

Michael Kasal - 01:20am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6759 of 8458)

What's a sugary loaf and a yellow stone?

Cheryl Straight - 01:22am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6760 of 8458)

okay, IMO, Emma and Hannah's mom is dead on. Met my hubby at Winona State (plus spent 16 years of my life just south of there). IT'S at *WINONA*, the Sugar Loaf is up on the bluff at the NorthWest corner of HWY 61 and 43 (road to Witoka), anyway I am digressing...The Stone is huge!!!! looks lika a big sugar lump and it is YELLOW. It is a huge landmark that all the "locals" would know about, it's even lit up at night.

Personnally don't think it is down towards Wyoming. Wyoming with yellowstone park isn't *local*.

Live just off the park, but don't recall the "Zone sign", however there are other playing field Zones (Besides strike zone, and Zone defense in basketball, there is an end Zone in Football.

Remember as kids, selecting objects as the end zones for football, yes I am female, But played hard! I truly believe you need to line up the 3 pyramids and the large object/stack and look between the trees.

Sorry so long, but have to get some zzzz's and Desparately want a cooler to find it.

Amy Trandahl - 01:23am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6761 of 8458)

good point im sure they have someone i saw a really suspicius guy up at mounds when the frusteration between parks was happaning i bet he was having a good laugh as he walked by TOWARDS CHEROKEE!!!!!!)

Cheryl Straight - 01:25am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6762 of 8458)

WrightWinger, it was great seeing you at the park. I felt guilty not having anything white on to id myself. Say hi to your dad - sure we will run into him up on the West Side (and i feel the best side)

Michael Kasal - 01:26am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6763 of 8458)

I'm totally stumped on this one...I've gotten every one in less than ten minutes....

Cheryl Straight - 01:28am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6764 of 8458)

If you aren't needing some sleep, the sight at the park is other worldly. Looking around, you'd think you were in a coal mine. The Devo song working in a coal mine popped into my head (oops, dating myself). It is almost eerie out there. Hubby and I dug for an hour or so, the going is slow, bring choppers/picks.

Brian Carlson - 01:34am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6765 of 8458)

just came back from CP....too much digging for one night, have to get up in the am and use the daylight

Cheryl Straight - 01:35am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6766 of 8458)

Good-luck coolers and good-nite....

Terry Valentine - 01:36am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6767 of 8458)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!

Just returned from Cherokee. It is quite a sight. Saw a couple of WC's walk past us. Still found people down at the other end of the park. Do they not get the next clue before hunting? Seems so odd. Having some hot chocolate with hubby then going to bed. The alarm goes off early and the day is busy. Hope to be back out to the park mid afternoon if I can clear my schedule a bit. Hope a Way Cool Bandana finds it if we don't. Peace

Christine - 01:37am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6768 of 8458)

Couldn't a sugray loaf refer to a twinkee?

Elliot Ness - 01:37am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6769 of 8458)

who knows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

The Clue Master - 01:39am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6770 of 8458)

I was the one filming you people who were out there. Love the Sugar Loaf thing leading to Winona. Perfect! If you've ever been there before you'll know. Snow zone looks good as well. Stupid me read it once and I was stuck on "Surgery Loaf"!! What the hell is Surgery Loaf? I've been up for WAY TO MANY HOURS.

Christine - 01:40am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6771 of 8458)

I was just out there. It's crazy the whole park is almost dug up! where the hell is that thing? It driving me nuts! I just want to know where it is. I don't even care about the reward now.

Terry Valentine - 01:40am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6772 of 8458)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!

Have seen the twinkie thing while I've been slogging through the posts since 11:30. Could be. It doesn't matter what it's in now. Whatever someone digs up should be searched through. It'll probably be so clear when the explanations come out.

Brian Schletty - 01:40am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6773 of 8458)

As a Parks and Rec. worker, with Cherokee being one of my parks, I give you guys permission to destroy that park! Just find that medallion! (I'll pick up the pieces later).

Christine - 01:41am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6774 of 8458)

You mean that if I come there with a bob cat you wouldn't care?

Brian Carlson - 01:42am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6775 of 8458)

just so everyone can relax, WHEN i find it, i will be sure and give everyone here at the WC credit for helping me :)

The Clue Master - 01:44am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6776 of 8458)

Might take a vacation day tomorrow depending. Day digging would be great for a change. Brought my 'virgin' sister out with us tonight. She wants me to clarify the virgin part. She has 2 kids just never dug before. Peace out

Brian Schletty - 01:44am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6777 of 8458)

I'll line you guys up with an army of bob cats!

doodledog - 01:48am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6778 of 8458)

Just got back from CP. Although I've been digging for several years I've never been out at night before. "Other worldly" is a good approximation. Acres of lanterns and votives, the muffled "shoop shoop" of a hundred simultaneous diggers, the cold, the warmth of laughter and shouts and hollers, the dogs running between the clustered teams.

I'm not from around here originally (from NY). Tonight I knew I landed in the right place. Passing seemingly normal people on the streets of St Paul, I now know the truth.

Love you all, doodledog

Ben Hunting - 01:49am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6779 of 8458)

Just got back from CP, the kids won't be "zoom"ing any more this year. Looks like most people are giving up for the night. Saw some poor sucker digging around a phone pole on Smith and george. The night might not be a complete waste some guy from the paper took our picture, maybe it will be in the paper tommarow. Well it sounds like my coffee is done so I'm heading back out to the trenches. Thanks for the hint about the yellow stone Cheryl I'm going to move up that way, if that is the solution they sure are making it hard this year. I'll stop rambling now.

MO - 01:51am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6780 of 8458)

Why was the clue spelled wrong in the newspaper (SURGARY NOT SUGARY), we spent hours trying to figure out what it meant.

Which one was right???

Let us know.

Christine - 01:51am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6781 of 8458)

Do ya'll think yellow stone refers to wyoming? Or is there really a yellow stone in the park?

Terry Valentine - 01:52am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6782 of 8458)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!

Doodledog...How long has it been since you landed here? I've always lived here. It's nice to see your description of the scene at CP. We were out till just a while ago. It's why I like night digging. You got to be there to appreciate it. Night all.

Christine - 01:52am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6783 of 8458)

I was wondering about that too. I think it is just a miss print in the paper.

Sitting Bull - 01:53am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6784 of 8458)

Why was the clue spelled wrong in the newspaper (SURGARY NOT SUGARY), we spent hours trying to figure out what it meant.

Which one was right???

Let us know.

Machiavelli - 01:53am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6785 of 8458)

I just returned from CP as well. It was quite interesting. I was digging by the hill near Wyoming and then headed for the car. As I walked, a woman with about 4 teeth, and fewer IQ points said she thought it was rapped in a twinkie wrapper because of the sugary loaf thing. I wanted to ask her if she ever heard of Yellowstone National Park, but thought against it. You just wonder why some people are out there.

By the way, the hint is spelled right in the web page, so I have to assume the paper was a typo.

Jake836 - 01:54am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6786 of 8458)

We just got back from digging, we picked up the clue at 11:00 from the Pioneer Press. We just noticed that our clue is different from the one posted on the net. Instead of saying "sugary loaf" ours say's "Surgary loaf" So we did some digging and our trusty encyclopedia came up with some mountain top in Rio De Janiero. Let's talk about frustrating!!!!

Christine - 01:56am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6787 of 8458)

Does anyone know exactly how big the medallion is?

Sandra Davis - 01:57am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6788 of 8458)

Hi Kay and Carol. It was very nice to meet you. Thank you for tips. Sandy

doodledog - 01:57am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6789 of 8458)

Landed in MPLS for grad school, october 1980, married into shoreview, 1983, came home to Mac-Groveland 1990, a digger ever since.

PS--I've often referred to St. Paul as NY without the New Yorkers (that's a complement). I've spoken to mayor Norm (from Brooklyn) and he agrees!

Dave - 01:58am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6790 of 8458)

those of you that are thinking of wyoming really ought to get a clue and read the last 100-200 posts!

Sitting Bull - 01:59am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6791 of 8458)

It is hard to believe it hasn't been found with the way the ground has been dug up in a lot of places. Does anyone know for sure that you can turn in the medallion all night???

Lee Christenson - 02:00am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6792 of 8458)

There is a yellow stone wall at the entrance of cherokee and smith street. There are also 3 pine trees which could be shaped like pyramids.The smoke stack is visible and so are tracks.I have really enjoyed meeting so many people this year, having good clean fun wrecking the park. Never heard a harsh word, but of course everyone was heavily armed with some serious looking weapons. Going to soak now in hot water to warm up, and play something easy like RIVEN. God bless everyone.

Fox - 02:00am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6793 of 8458)

What about the word 'fame' in the latest clue? We've been at CP for 5 nights, we were with the hundreds of people off of Wyoming. We were close but we are missing something. I don't think it's in the baseball field but it's really close. I think the word fame has something to do with it.

doodledog - 02:00am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6794 of 8458)

My experience was that although a lot of the ground had been trampled, very little had actually been dug up.

Fox - 02:02am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6795 of 8458)

What about the word 'fame' in the latest clue? We've been at CP for 5 nights, we were with the hundreds of people off of Wyoming. We were close but we are missing something. I don't think it's in the baseball field but it's really close. I think the word fame has something to do with it.

Terry Valentine - 02:02am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6796 of 8458)
Read #8268 from CASEY!!!!!!

Thanks doodledog. I have always lived in St. Paul - no suburbs for me. Like the city. Not crazy for Mpls. I always get lost there. Too many numbers, alphabetized streets. Used to help my mom figure out clues. I have really enjoyed this forum. Hope they find a way to prevent the clogs for next year. Last year the server went down for a couple days so it is better this year.

seri - 02:04am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6797 of 8458)

So Zocher, what do you think? -seri

Ben Hunting - 02:06am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6798 of 8458)

Hey, what happend to all the people who were claiming they found it? I kind of miss them.(jk)

seri - 02:07am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6799 of 8458)

So Zocher, what do you think? -seri

Funseeker - 02:11am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6800 of 8458)

I think that's just on the other side of the yellow brick road...

Will Vold - 02:13am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6801 of 8458)

Please someone put us out of our misery and find it.

Denise Blonde1 - 02:20am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6802 of 8458)

you guys are all very funny and very clever..I hope one of you finds it.

Denise Blonde1 - 02:21am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6803 of 8458)

Since it won't be me.....

Ben Hunting - 02:23am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6804 of 8458)

To get some sleep would be quite nice, and my boss would thank me for it. But if the prize is found while I'm not around, I'll put a pick ax in my forehead.

Funseeker - 02:35am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6805 of 8458)

There is a grassy knoll theory in the works, too. Perhaps MedallionGate... Where are the missing minutes?

Ben Hunting - 02:36am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6806 of 8458)

What are missing minutes?

(Deleted item originally posted by Ian on 02:37am Feb 4, 1998 CST)
Ian - 02:50am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6808 of 8458)
READ MESSAGE 8268

Good night,see ya when it's light.

VINYLcollector - 03:05am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6809 of 8458)
http://members.aol.com/VINYLagain/Medallion.html

Where was the weinie roast?

Ian - 03:07am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6810 of 8458)
READ MESSAGE 8268

At the foundation

VINYLcollector - 03:08am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6811 of 8458)
http://members.aol.com/VINYLagain/Medallion.html

What?

Willie Findit - 03:09am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6812 of 8458)

I Am Stumped Am I

mr.tomski - 06:21am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6813 of 8458)

good morning anyone out there

mr.tomski - 06:24am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6814 of 8458)

GOOD MORNING VIETNAM!!!

Desire-to-win - 06:33am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6815 of 8458)

Mr.Tomski: It appears we're the only ones awake. What is your latest theory on last nights clue?

Desire-to-win - 06:39am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6816 of 8458)

Where's everyone at? Don't tell me I'm the only one not out hunting this morning.

mr.tomski - 06:43am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6817 of 8458)

Piece of shit server wont let me in

mr.tomski - 06:44am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6818 of 8458)

finally - 30 tries later,ready to sick Joe Medallion on it

greenslvs2 - 06:46am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6819 of 8458)

Mr. Tom: don't you EVER sleep????

mr.tomski - 06:49am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6820 of 8458)

Like you GREENSLVS. I to am a Medallion hunting warrior plus I usually start work at 7:00.Have schedule flexability-may head for park for 1st light.

greenslvs2 - 06:54am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6821 of 8458)

oh. I got some decent sleep - midnite to about 5:30. NOw I gotta get ready... You at work now? Will see if I can sneek on at my place of employment.

mr.tomski - 06:56am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6822 of 8458)

No I`m still draggin ass at home---excuse language

Cheryl Straight - 06:57am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6823 of 8458)

Green are you still here....? LOL

mr.tomski - 06:57am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6824 of 8458)

Hav`nt seen this cooler so quiet-ever

mr.tomski - 06:59am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6825 of 8458)

got to find bandana and I eill be on my way

greenslvs2 - 07:01am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6826 of 8458)

Greg Sax: Went to sleep before I saw your post last nite. Met Cheryl here. I read she lived near CP, so started asking her questions. Kind'a picked up BW (Black Widow) the same way!!!

C and I have been talking a couple times a day from work, mulling over ideas. Maybe I'll be back out there to nite with hat and meet her.

BW: Keep thinking girl!!! The Planteers will get together when this is all over and make plans.

mr.tomski - 07:02am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6827 of 8458)

White sock will have to do.

greenslvs2 - 07:02am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6828 of 8458)

Mr. Tom and C: I gotta get ready for work!!!! Catch you guys later!!!

WATER COOLER HEADS WILL PREVAIL!!! HAIL COOLER HAND LUKE!!!!

Cheryl Straight - 07:07am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6829 of 8458)

Just like Green, gotta go to work, happy chopping Cooler Heads:)

SueBee - 07:19am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6830 of 8458)

Good morning. Mr. Tomski, you still here?

mr.tomski - 07:20am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6831 of 8458)

Queen bee I am But not for long .heading for the park.What your make on latest clue-Wynona?

Madallion man - 07:29am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6832 of 8458)

it's in the parking lot.

mr.tomski - 07:29am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6833 of 8458)

Well I am off to the park

Madallion man - 07:30am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6834 of 8458)

Helo

mr.tomski - 07:30am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6835 of 8458)

Why the parking lot?

SueBee - 07:32am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6836 of 8458)

It took a while to get the sugary loaf thing, but the masses seem to think it's a Babe Ruth (baseball, candybar) reference. The yellow stone most thought pointed to Wyoming st. But there are plenty of interpretations out there. Don't quite know what to think now.

SueBee - 07:34am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6837 of 8458)

Don't know if it means the med is between wyoming and annapolis somewere near or in the ball diamond, or if the Winona idea really holds water. Seems like the Winona thing would be a bit to obscure for this late in the game. They need to print something that most people would know.

SueBee - 07:37am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6838 of 8458)

I was looking for the cooler crew last night but only ran into jake836 in line for the paper at about 10:30. Drove by where I thought the foundation was but didn't see anyone. Deb, HollyWood - were you there?? I stopped by the bonfire around 9 and watched two guys throwing cinders from the fire at each other. Joked about how when he caught on fire we'd all throw snow chunks at him to put him out and find the medallion when the snow chunk broke in two off his head. Sorry for the rambling... I'm tired.

SueBee - 07:38am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6839 of 8458)

I even had a big ol' sign taped to my back that said "PPCC SueBee" on it. I was getting some strange looks. Where were you, Cooler Crew??

SueBee - 07:40am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6840 of 8458)

Now that I'm awake, I can't decide between taking the morning off and going hunting, and actually showing up to work. What a dilemma.

SueBee - 07:40am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6841 of 8458)

I'm completely amazed that it wasn't found last night. That place was ripped apart (again!) inch by inch. It's gotta be in something mighty small to not have turned up yet.

SueBee - 07:42am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6842 of 8458)

Ok, I'm hogging the converstation. Where is everyone?

SueBee - 07:44am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6843 of 8458)

Well, I'd better hustle and get to work. Ugh. Tonight sure will be interesting. GO COOLER CREW!!

huntandfind - 07:46am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6844 of 8458)

Hey everybody i'm back after some sleep. I couldn't get in after the clue was given out last noght so i went to bed. i've missed a lot of the discussion, is there really a yellow brick wall or is it really a reference to wyoming street?

Eagle Eye - 07:46am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6845 of 8458)
READ #8268 - THE WIZARD SPEAKS!

SueBee: I was at the bonfire around 9PM last night, too! Saw the two little boys drinking and playing with fire - stuff like that pulls the average IQ of medallion hunters down. Were you the one from Lino Lakes? I am hooked on this hunt, but I don't get much opportunity to search - job demands are high right now; so little time, so much snow! Good luck to you in the search! All of us CoolerPhiles should meet somewhere for coffee. Does everyone know there's a nice little coffee shop at Doddway Shopping Center? At Smith and Dodd, east end of the strip. Lattes and everything!

SueBee - 07:48am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6846 of 8458)

Hmmm, server won't take me to the latest clues. I'll try it this way.

Toner - 07:49am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6847 of 8458)

Didn't make it out last night either, these clues are blowing my mind. Tonight will be very interesting.

Guy Leon - 07:50am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6848 of 8458)

Good morning! Did anyone watch the news this morning? KARE 11 mentioned something about, I'm not sure here, Mary Wirth Park?

SueBee - 07:50am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6849 of 8458)

Eagle Eye, no I'm a native St. Paulite. I (and my boyfriend) were standing on the bluff side of the fire ring talking to two other guys. I had a black Spider ski jacket and a red ear band on.

SueBee - 07:53am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6850 of 8458)

Gotta go. bye all Happy hunting!

Eagle Eye - 07:57am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6851 of 8458)
READ #8268 - THE WIZARD SPEAKS!

SueBee: Saw you there. I was talking to the woman from Lino Lakes and the guy sitting on the fire ring with his back to you. I was on the Chippewa side of the ring; I was with my son and sis-in-law; the little drunk boys were accusing my son of having the medallion. Do you know who the guy in the camoflage jacket was? Very tall, dark hair.

Spouse of a hunter - 08:02am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6852 of 8458)

so who else was out to the wee hours in the morning looking for that darn thing and now finding themselves up for work and having visions of pots of coffe in there heads. Capaccinio here i come. At this rate caffen and nicotene will be the only thing in my blood.

We looked untill 2am and found absolutely nothing. found some coolers [2] but not true coolers they were only in the game for a couple of days.

Anyone read;y to kill the pioneer press staff for these damn clue this year?

N8iveFL - 08:03am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6853 of 8458)

Well, I'm going to try it one more time. Every time I'm sure I know where it is... it ain't. Today I'm betting on the Ballpark - at this point, its part hunch, part inspiration and part dumb luck. And I'm starting to feel mighty stupid. G'luck all.

MP Burns - 08:06am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6854 of 8458)

I was wearing the camoflage. This is my first year in the hunt and am new to the Cooler as of Monday!

(Deleted item originally posted by Cathy Rajtar on 08:07am Feb 4, 1998 CST)
Eagle Eye - 08:14am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6856 of 8458)
READ #8268 - THE WIZARD SPEAKS!

MP Burns: You looked familiar - are you from West Side/West St. Paul?

Eagle Eye - 08:16am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6857 of 8458)
READ #8268 - THE WIZARD SPEAKS!

MP Burns: How late did you hunt last night? Any plans to hunt tonight?

Graham Cracker - 08:18am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6858 of 8458)

This is my first post to the water cooler but I have been listening since the beginning. Want to say that I really hope one of you from the Cooler gets this thing. Can't seem to let this medallion thing go...find myself logging on during work all day. Anyone out digging now?

MP Burns - 08:18am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6859 of 8458)

Just moved to the East side from Los Angeles this year. Grew up in White Bear, but left for 7 years. Couldn't wait to return to Minnesota to find the medallion.

MP Burns - 08:20am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6860 of 8458)

I was out last night from 6-12:30. A little foolish going that early, but couldn't stand sitting around the house away from the action. Will be out tonight, but not 'til later. Gotta stake out a good sight and wait for the clue at 11.

Eagle Eye - 08:22am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6861 of 8458)
READ #8268 - THE WIZARD SPEAKS!

MP Burns: Thanks for the reply. Might see you at CP tonight, if I can stay up that late! Work beckons. Good luck to all CoolerPhiles!

todd - 08:24am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6862 of 8458)

missed you all last nite on here......what doo you make of the new clues??

Deb Speidel - 08:27am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6863 of 8458)

GOOD MORNING ALL-im back at my desk awaiting another day of ignoring my customers and talking to my cooler gang peeps...

Mr. Know It All - 08:30am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6864 of 8458)

Sugar loaf is a cone shaped mountain or hill! Yellowstone is in Wyoming! Need further information just ask! I know the spot within 50 feet all clues line up!!!

Deb Speidel - 08:34am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6865 of 8458)

hey how about the pitchers mound on the baseball diamond... in the Hudson double line of division is delaware (west st paul & mendota heights) and annapolis...we all know that one-- babe ruth sounds good...WHAT DO YOU THINK???

youngster - 08:38am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6866 of 8458)

I'm stuck at work, what do you people think of the last clue. Does yellow rock mean the baseball diamond ?

greenslvs2 - 08:40am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6867 of 8458)

I am not really here. This is all a phigment of your imaginations... I'm actually, really, for real... slaving away, hard at work. Yes, I am. Yup. Yes sir.

Eagle Eye, you have just been appointed PPMCC Chief of Setting Up Crew Coffee Clatch. Best find a large place - I think there will be one or two of us. Too, do we have to have it in the wee hours of the a.m.??? (whine) I get sssssoooo sleepy. <g>

(Deleted item originally posted by Clue Less on 08:42am Feb 4, 1998 CST)
Toner - 08:43am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6869 of 8458)

KQRS has some hunters on at CP.

happy bear - 08:50am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6870 of 8458)

Quite helpful in finding out where the medallion IS NOT! Including part of the history. This can be helpful in finding the medallion.

Http://www.metrosupersaver.com

Happy

Amy Trandahl - 08:50am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6871 of 8458)

It's off to start my tiring day, I wish I could go looking today. I can't believe it wasn't found last night. maybe there is hope yet for me.

Austin 3:16 - 08:51am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6872 of 8458)

Does anyone know what the clue about "Rosebud" means?

oz - 08:51am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6873 of 8458)

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

B.J. Mack - 08:55am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6874 of 8458)

rosebud?!?!? rosebud?!?!?! aren't we beyond THAT yet?

I like the "yellow stone" connection with Wyoming. I had been lining up with Wyoming where I could see the Capitol next to the pyramids.

There will be a mad rush at 11:30 tonight. See you there!

Mr. Know It All - 08:55am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6875 of 8458)

Not likely Clue Less! Go to Chippewa Ave. between Wyoming and Winona get out of your car! Walk towards the River and on the side of the hill in right field. You Must be in fair territory to ( stay in the game). S-o-o-o in the right field (zone) go up the sugary loaf ( hill) until you can just see the tops of the restrooms (pyramids) rise out of the snow. Start to dig cause at that spot every other clue fits and is in sight.!!!!!!!!!! If you are still clueless after this, I will have to take you by the hand and lead you there! But that wouldn't be fair!!!!! THAT'S WHY THEY CALL IT A HUNT!!!!!!!! Generally he is a lazy guy, no more than 40 paces from the road!

Dr. S. Livingston - 08:55am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6876 of 8458)

Long post starting!

Medallion--

Clue explanations then explanation of where to find it.

Clue #1 and #2 just lead to a general park

Clue #3 gives you a sledding hill

Clue #4 gives you the NSP stack and Cathedral dome

Clue #5 gives you city streets (Annapolis, Wyoming, Winona etc...)

Clue #6 gives you the NSP stack agian and the "back" puts you on the back or north side of sledding hill

Clue #7 gives you the double division being Annapolis

Clue #8 gives you the three pyramid shaped roofs over bathrooms

Clue #9 gives you the name of the park as Cherokee

Clue #10 gives you Chippewa St.

Clue #11 gives you Winona AND Wyoming. Locals of Winona claim Sugar Loaf and locals of Wyoming claim Yellow Stone. Zone gives you the emergency zone sign that was knocked over but would have been placed in the right spot.

There is a spot on the back side of the sliding hill between Wyoming St. and Winona St. (It is directly across Chippewa St from a brick house, the third one down from I think winona (the northern one of the two?)) It is also directly in line with a large tree that when standing on the spot and looking at the house blocks out the garage. When standing on the spot the NSP stack is just to the left of the 3 pyramids, the Cathedral dome is in the crevice between the left and middle pyramid and the spires on the cathedral are in the crevice between the middle and right pyramid. I have deliberated every clue and every word and this spot is the point to which I come and every new clue points to the spot as well.(never got my hands on a shovel to look myself) Look for it there and you will find the medallion! Thanks to all the cooler-philes have fun digging today and tonite and don't forget to mention the water cooler when you get your interview!!

Mattykid - 08:55am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6877 of 8458)

austin is a moron!!!!

Austin 3:16 - 08:56am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6878 of 8458)

When I was out last night, I saw people digging through trash cans and climbing on top of buildings. I could only sit and laugh at these idiots.

Guy Leon - 08:56am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6879 of 8458)

"Rosebud" refers a sled in Citizen Kane

Curious Curious - 09:01am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6880 of 8458)

Hey, when do they bury the treasure? Are you sure they have done it yet? Maybe they will do it tonight? Is it legally registered somewhere when they do that? Are you sure it's been buried? Maybe everyone's been wasting their time? This year's clues have been lousy. Didn't get into it. By now the feaver is high, not this year. How about some history on this. Does anyone know when in fact the treasure is buried and how do you authenticate that?

Austin 3:16 - 09:01am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6881 of 8458)

sorry, I actually knew that. My bad.

Austin 3:16 - 09:03am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6882 of 8458)

There's no set time. Although quite a few years back, a couple of old ladies found out who hid the medallion. They would follow him to where he buried it and they found it a few years in a row.

oz - 09:06am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6883 of 8458)

its in a spot thats been dug up already

B.J. Mack - 09:07am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6884 of 8458)

Good point Dr. Livingston...

Be sure and mention your pals in the Water Cooler when you're at the press conference for finding the medallion!

Scott Schuman - 09:09am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6885 of 8458)

Dr.Linvingston, why wouldn't you find it yourself. I think your on to something!

Allie Go - 09:11am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6886 of 8458)

What a nightmare..all that ice to dig and still in such a large area. The medallion could take hours to find even after the 12th clue, unless, of course, it's "dumb luck."

Allie Go - 09:14am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6887 of 8458)

Hey..I actually wore my Pele's Nightmare's pink scarf...but lost it last night. If you find it, it's mine and it would be really nice to get it back.

Austin 3:16 - 09:19am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6888 of 8458)

I agree with OZ. It seems like every year it's found by some fool on his lunch break, walking through the park without a shovel, ice scraper, or even gloves. He happens to walk through a part that's already been dug up, and spots a tin of chew. Inside is the treasure, and he didn't even spend 10 minutes out there. It makes me sick.

oz - 09:21am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6889 of 8458)

maybee its no at cherokee

Axel - 09:29am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6890 of 8458)

I just got back from the park after digging all night and morning. The park has been dug thru thoroughly and I can't believe no one has found it. So I've come to the following conclusions.

1. They haven't dropped it yet

2. They put it next to the curb between winona and wyoming and let that guy plow 5 feet of snow over it.

3. They didn't put it in anything; just set it on the ground by itself

Oh well I guess we will find out in under 14 hours.

JazzyBloom - 09:38am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6891 of 8458)

Any thoughts on today's clue... my arms are in pain but I'm not ready to give up yet ....

SueBee - 09:39am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6892 of 8458)

Ok, I made it to work, an hour later than you Deb. Oh well. I was out till about midnight. What a sight. I was maybe 25th in line for a paper and then raced back to CP last night. There must be an awful lot of people staked out with cell phones because by the time I got back the ball diamond was covered with people, lanterns, and picks. Unbelievable. I still can't decide if sugary loaf is a Babe Ruth candy bar leading to somewhere near the ball diamond, or the Winona spot people are claiming. I JUST DON'T KNOW!

SueBee - 09:40am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6893 of 8458)

It must be in something really small and still stuck in one of the ice chunks that has been dug up already. If that's the case, it's going to take a miracle to find it. I can just imaging the riot tonight at 11.

Mike - 09:40am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6894 of 8458)

can someone explain the 11th clue a little

Chris Palmer - 09:51am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6895 of 8458)

This is my take on what I've been able to "steal" from the H.D. Coolers. The locals in the last clue are Minnesotans that have claim to the Sugar Loaf of Yellow Stone in Winona as opposed to the non-locals which would claim those same landmarks in Wyoming. Other than that, my goal this year is to be the guy who just shows up and finds the thing. Sorry to day it, but I've burned myself out many a hunt by going on all night digging sprees like a "true" hunter early in the game only to be at home and exhausted by the last clue or two. See ya out there, cause I TOOK THE DAY OFF!!! Sorry if this comes out entirely in bold)

Chris Palmer - 09:55am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6896 of 8458)

Oops! Day = Say. I don't want to use the editor - it hasn't worked so well for me.

Brad B - 09:55am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6897 of 8458)

Here's an alternate interpretation:

#11) It's between Baker (claim a sugary loaf) and King (claim's gold - yellow stone).

#10) Cape and Whip (rearranged to read Chippewa) - is not recommended. It's not along Chippewa Ave

#9) Unlock the Door (Key), runs a committee (chair) - It's along Cherokee Ave

#8)through #1) Just identifies the park where the med. is at.

Could the zone be between Baker and King streets along Cherokee Ave.??

Caribou - 09:58am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6898 of 8458)

Suebee, I have been hanging out at the cooler for a couple of days, but since this my first hunt, I have no thoughts to keep discussion going, Until now. Was out there last night until 1:00, at 11:30 there were about 200 people on the ballfield and when I left at 1:00 people where still camping out that the plates. I believe that sugar loaf=baby ruth could be a stretch, a twinkle sound better. Yellow Stone = Wyoming and Sugar Loaf = Winona makes sense since there is a hill in Winona named Sugar Loaf.

Chris Palmer - 10:02am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6899 of 8458)

Brad:

I think your take on #10 is right on! And thanks for shaking my faith in the Winona idea! I should have gone to work...

Brad B - 10:06am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6900 of 8458)

Line of double division....boundary lines on tennis courts (game) between baker and king streets along cherokee!! That must be it. I'm a genius ---

Caribou - 10:06am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6901 of 8458)

Brad Cherokee Ave. or Cherokee Height Blvd. Cherokee Ave is a couple of blocks east of Chippewa. Also, the last time the Medallion was at CP it was between King and George Streets.

emmy & hannah's mom - 10:11am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6902 of 8458)

Hi all, I just drove home from the park to warm up a little ( and use the facilities!). I'm a firm believer that our last clue refers to Winona. I spent a lot of time on the sidewalk at Winona and Chippewa. But then I remembered that they would NOT recommend that attire, so I proceeded away from Chippewa, but stayed in line with Winona. The hill goes down just a little as you go toward Cherokee Hts. I turned around to see 3 pyramids - just the tops. Amid a few trees, and a whole lot of snow that's already been picked over. Why hasn't the clue writer been more specific about what and where?? or has he?? am I missing something?

Chris Palmer - 10:15am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6903 of 8458)

We're all geniuses (or genii) - at least that's why I never find it. I think too much.

JazzyBloom - 10:15am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6904 of 8458)

Any thoughts on today's clue... my arms are in pain but I'm not ready to give up yet ....

SueBee - 10:20am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6905 of 8458)

The more I think about it, the less I think sugary loaf refers to Winona. Only because I would have thought they'd obscure the clue a little more than that (sugary loaf = sugar loaf?) Maybe I'm all wet. And the bit about it NOT being along Chippewa really has me stumped. A sugary loaf being a Twinkie seems odd too. Where's the connection to anything else? Would it mean it's in a Twinkie wrapper (or the Twinkie itself) at Winona and Chippewa? at Winona and Cherokee Hts? Man-o-man, they didn't narrow it down much did they? And the stretch from yellow stone to King St. is just way too out there...

Brad J. Brunner - 10:20am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6906 of 8458)

Chipping ice last night I realized that I didn't know the color or material of the medallion, or really much about it at all. I've heard that it's plastic, that it's made of resin, that it's blue, that it's gold, that it's rectangular, that it's 2" diameter and round.

Does anyone know what the "Treasure to which you aspire" looks like?

Brad B - 10:21am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6907 of 8458)

Chris Palmer...Cherokee Park...CP , CP .....hmmmm. I think you may be a plant from the WC Committee. I'm starting to get paranoid....don't you look at me! I need some sleep.

Chris Palmer - 10:22am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6908 of 8458)

E and H's Mom: It seems to me that there has been a lack of container descriptions this year. In a big way. Any ideas out there? With the way the snow has been dug up in chunks, I believe the Med could have easily been turned over and missed, but not thrown too far. Maybe it's not in anything - a smaller package for a year when the snow is more scarce. Another cup of coffee, and I'm sure I'll be able to find it in my backyard...

SueBee - 10:23am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6909 of 8458)

Brad, last year it was round and translucent blue made of a plastic resin with Winter Carnival stuff embossed on it. I think it's about 2.5 inches in diameter. I don't know if they change it from year to year. I don't think so.

Girl with the most cake - 10:24am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6910 of 8458)

My big fear is that a squirrel or other animal found the treasure long before us and it's lining it's nest. Do we need to rent blow torches and melt all the damn crappy snow?

Lo - 10:24am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6911 of 8458)

Toner- I had a great time at the bon fire last night... Thanks for the great memories!

SueBee - 10:27am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6912 of 8458)

Chris, I agree clues to the container have been either non-existant or so subtle that one can't figure them out. Some of the guesses have been an Altoid tin (there's a plant that looks kind of like rosebuds on the cover. In acutality, it's a mint plant but whatever...), a bread bag from the "dough" reference, a Cool Whip container from clue 10 (hip = cool + whip = cool whip), in a CD case (don't know where that come from), a Twinkie, a Babe Ruth candy bar (sugary loaf & ball diamond). Any other ideas?

Chris Palmer - 10:28am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6913 of 8458)

Man do I have nothing better to do!(?) I've never seen the Med personally, but when they've taken pictures of the "lucky one" the past couple years, he's been holding a piece of bluish clear plastic 2-3 inches in diameter, maybe 1/2" inch thick. Brad B: It is just my destiny to find it this year. -CP

SueBee - 10:29am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6914 of 8458)

Greg Sax, are you with us today? Deb? Holly Wood?

emmy & hannah's mom - 10:30am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6915 of 8458)

Re: container or what it's hid in...I can't wait for the damn thing to be found just for the simple reason that I want to know which part of which jibberish clue was supposed to point in that direction. What a backwards sentence. Far too little sleep, and too much coffee.

Chris Palmer - 10:34am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6916 of 8458)

SueBee: I always rule out anything metallic (Altoids) because if I didn't, I'd have to buy a metal detector. I'm thinking that maybe this year they went au naturel - leaves, grass, mud, etc. for the greatest camouflage factor. Aol says I've been online for 137 minutes - how many of my 50 free hours is that?

ybnormal - 10:35am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6917 of 8458)

Was the foundation found last night? Couldn't make it due to work committments. Will be there tonight. Is it legal to use a snowblower? Just a bunch of us in a line and we go from one end of the park to the other..

chris anderson - 10:35am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6918 of 8458)

well i think yellowstone means thats its buy wyoming st because yellowstone natl. park is in wyoming and montana well thats my guess so see ya out hunting

Kenute - 10:40am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6919 of 8458)

does anyone find it strange that the spelling in the paper for the word sugary was surgary i know there are typos but on a clue??

Brad J. Brunner - 10:42am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6920 of 8458)

Thanks SueBee!

2.5" diameter is huge! I'll find it for sure now.

If it is plastic, I wonder how shovel-resistant it is. The edging tool I've been using chops frozen branches in two with ease. I hope we haven't broken it to bits.

SueBee - 10:42am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6921 of 8458)

ybnormal, I swear we need something like a snowblower. But then it might shoot out the blower end and land for someone else to find. That would be BAD. Chris, I agree it wouldn't be in anything metal too. The Altoids tin idea was floating around, but got shot down quickly.

(Deleted item originally posted by andrea deutsch on 10:43am Feb 4, 1998 CST)
Brad B - 10:43am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6923 of 8458)

I think the joke will be on all of us come 11:00 pm -- It's between BAKER & KING along CHEROKEE.

Clue #11) ..which claim a sugary loaf (Baker)...which claim a yellow stone (gold..king street) Clue #7) ..lots of dough...Also refers to Baker Street. Clue #5) ..riches also immeasurable (a "King's riches - gold) Clue #4) ..mother lode... Refers to Gold (ie yellow stone)

I remember this hapenning a few years back .. when the Clue (less) God put out clues pointing to a particular place and then threw a curve ball at everyone on the LAST CLUE saying it was in a part of the park no-one really looked. When the explainations came out in the paper - people were pissed!!! - since the clues were all obscure - like yellow stone...gold...king. All teh clues up to the last one could have been one of two places in the park... and he structured it so most people would look where the treasure really is. My guess is that the Clue (less) God is having alot of fun watching people spend all their time digging up on the hill..... not to mention dragging out the hunt is great for circulation. Between Baker and King Street along cherokee - not many people have been over there. pyramids...sliding hill... all that stuff is just identifying the park.

Anyway - regardless...when the explainations come out people will still be scratching their heads on this one.

ybnormal - 10:45am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6924 of 8458)

I don't get the paper, just look online for the clue and its not "misspelled" there.

SueBee - 10:45am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6925 of 8458)

Kenute - I think it's just a typo. The cooler version spelling is correct. Brad - wouldn't that just suck if it's been chopped to little bits? I really think it might be in a piece of already dug up snow/ice all by it's little lonesome. Since the snow came so late this year, they may have had to hide it without a container.

djs - 10:46am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6926 of 8458)

last year it was in a curid bandaid box metal

Mr. Know It All - 10:49am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6927 of 8458)

The medallion is made of an indistructable material! Cannot be chopped to bits!

Sherlock - 10:50am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6928 of 8458)

Brad B - I wouldn't be surprised if you were right. That's where I was looking yesterday evening, and I WAS ALL ALONE! There is a lot of undug snow over there. And from that point of the park, you can see the domes and the Capital, and the smokestack.

Anyone know if the park-type stuff connected to Baker Rec Center counts as a park? It's run by St. Paul Park & Rec - it's right off Baker & King street, east of Smith street. It's also quite small & inconspicuous.

SueBee - 10:51am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6929 of 8458)

Ya know what, Brad? You may just be right. It could be that devious. The clue(less) gods may just be toying with us. The King/Baker clues seems too cryptic - but then I've never found the little bugger!

ybnormal - 10:51am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6930 of 8458)

SHERLOCK--- yesterday that also came up and its not considered a park. Soory

SueBee - 10:52am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6931 of 8458)

djs - the bandaid box was plastic. I have one in my bathroom.

JazzyBloom - 10:52am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6932 of 8458)

Yeah - where are the actual boundaries of the part anyway???

charlie dandilion - 10:52am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6933 of 8458)

are there any basket ball courts around?? hence right zone>>> also we all now know where not to look, last night there were tons of people at wyoming and annapolis where is the damn thing i want it bad!!!

charlie dandilion - 10:54am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6934 of 8458)

where did the domes come from i have been trying to figure that one for a day now????

Sherlock - 10:54am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6935 of 8458)

I think it's a tennis court right off Cherokee st & King, if I remember correctly. (King - Fame??)

Little Mo - 10:55am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6936 of 8458)

Kenute (and others) - I also rely on the net for my clues, so I know nothing about any possible significance to "sugary," but is anyone else troubled/ confused/ intrigued by the use of "locals" instead of "locales"? I can't think of any good anagrams, and I'm certain I must be trying too hard, but shouldn't we at least be able to rely on the newspaper for proper word usage?

charlie dandilion - 10:56am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6937 of 8458)

but the tennis courts have been dug out so much in the last couple of days...

charlie dandilion - 10:57am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6938 of 8458)

I think personally that locals meens houses. maybe its on the side the houses are on/

Sherlock - 10:58am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6939 of 8458)

Li'l Mo - "locals" refers to people of the area, not "locales" which refers to locations. And actually, the tennis court off King isn't that badly dug up, especially right around it.

charlie dandilion - 11:01am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6940 of 8458)

maybe i was wrong then soory but <man i must be tierd> can someone please refer the DOMES???

ybnormal - 11:01am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6941 of 8458)

An anagram of locals could be skoal but that would really be a stretch and I don't think that it would fit with the rest of the clue.

John Warling - 11:03am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6942 of 8458)

Brad B Ithink you are right on the money there. Thanks for the thought.

charlie dandilion - 11:03am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6943 of 8458)

MY MOTHER THOUGHT for some reason that it was going to be in aw tin box and that would make scence if it was made to look like just a piece of trash?? not noticeable would you really want to open a chew tin???

Sherlock - 11:04am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6944 of 8458)

Charlie -- "demo of the mode" from clue #4 - anagrams, rearranged both spell dome. Just speculation on our part. The Capital is something Greensleevs2 came up with yesterday - the guy at the top (on the spire) is wearing a cape & riding a horse, clothes don't fit the weather.

SueBee - 11:06am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6945 of 8458)

Charlie, I hate to say it, but the dome thing has been beat to death. It refers to either the catheral or the capitol dome which can be seen from Cherokee.

Brad B - 11:06am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6946 of 8458)

the tennis courts have not been dug nearly as much as up on the hill. I was at the tennis courts last night... not many people there... lots of fresh snow. Wouldn't that be a B--ch - if it was Baker...King... along Cherokee. It just amazes me that the clues so far point directly to the spot up on the hill, and everyone and their mother in law has been digging up there.

I'll make a bold prediction... it's either between Baker & King along Cherokee...or it will not be found this year. We'll find out tonight.

Sherlock - 11:08am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6947 of 8458)

Hey, Brad - around what time where you there last night? I saw some guy kind of shuffling around in the court. Was that you? It was about 5:30 - 6:30.

ybnormal - 11:08am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6948 of 8458)

Was there a Baker tennis player? I know who King is but Baker? I don't follow tennis at all

Nathan Trivette - 11:10am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6949 of 8458)

YELLOW STONE= Gold!!! which is a reference to prospect st near cherokee.... (also the prospectors were looking for fame!!!)

charlie dandilion - 11:15am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6950 of 8458)

thatnks for the bit about the domes now i really feel blonde! but i did think of that i just thought i was wrong. I dont know if everything lines up at the courts at king and baker but i guess im going to try loater today after work.

Andrew Nelson - 11:21am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6951 of 8458)

Your way off track if you think Yellowstone = Gold.

Brad B - 11:27am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6952 of 8458)

Sherlock - I was there at 12:30 - 1:00 am last night. I'm going back out there at about 1:30 this afternoon. See you there.

Nathan Trivette - 11:27am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6953 of 8458)

its Yellow stone..... notice the space between the 2 words!!!

Still Looking - 11:29am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6954 of 8458)

Yellowstone Park is in Wyoming. Wyoming St. runs North to South and ends at Chippewa along the South side of Cherokee Park

Nathan Trivette - 11:30am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6955 of 8458)

how come no one gets that clue 11 means prospect blvd.....????? lets see theres fame,claim, and yellow stone which all are references to the gold rush i.e. prospectors....

Still Looking - 11:31am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6956 of 8458)

What do you think the medallion is hidden in?

Prince Bisque - 11:31am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6957 of 8458)

You know, I think people are barking up the wrong tree when they keep referring to "fame" as if it has any significance. Just about any clue always refers to you getting the treasure and the fortune and fame it encompasses. Doesn't mean fame had anything to do with a major clue. I think the most important part of that clue is where it basically says that it should be near Baker and Prospect. The baker would claim a sugary loaf and the prosect would claim gold - yes, I buy the yellow stone = gold bit!!

greenslvs2 - 11:32am Feb 4, 1998 CST (#6958 of 8458)