Hunt for the Pioneer Press medallion!

The Pioneer Press medallion has been found. Details are at our Winter Carnival page.

The hunt's over, but the discussion rages on ...

(247 previous messages)
CK1 - 04:51pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#248 of 8457)

Chris Palmer Excellent job on noting Water Street, Wood street ... on either side of Prospect park! I think you've hit on something obvious!

Casey Trauer - 04:52pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#249 of 8457)
PioneerPlanet night editor/Water Cooler moderator

Sorry all about the Joe Medallion onslaught. I'm trying to take care of it.

Due to the profanity, we've deleted the offensive messages.

Your help is appreciated. You can post a complaint on the "Talk to PioneerPlanet" discussion area of the Water Cooler. Or e-mail me.

Thanks for your cooperation,

Casey Trauer
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Snowball2 - 04:54pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#250 of 8457)

Just Got back in and wanted to thank all of you (DAVE and CK1) for getting a point across to Joe. I feel like I oppened a can of worms when I asked Joe if he went zoom as a child, but it was nice to have the support from everone else that this is a constructive place. I'm sorry I brought this back up, but I had to be herd. Thanks again!!!

Greg Sax - 05:04pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#251 of 8457)

Dave: You are a beautiful man. I hope this is the last piece of a puzzle that will benefit the rest of the avid diggers. You, CK1, Wright Winger, Know It All, Steve Worthman, Paula, Snowball2, and others are proving my theory that this event is one of St. Paul's greatest community showcases. The $4,000 just makes it a little more interesting. Jim Walsh is onto something with that "Clank" article he wrote, but it's the "we were in it together" feeling that most people finish the hunt with. Let's not lose that.

(Deleted item originally posted by Chris Palmer on 05:10pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)
Chris S - 05:13pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#253 of 8457)

Hi to all of the medallion hunters up north from sunny California. I'm browsing through the Water Cooler and getting really homesick. Sure wish I was there for Winter Carnival. Have fun, stay warm and good luck!!

Alex Moy - 05:17pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#254 of 8457)

My map shows a playground at the west end of Delos road. Could someone check it out for me. Kids zoom in most playgrounds. Prospect Park looks like a good guess. I only saw Delos, but Wood and Water streets affirm my belief. BTW I am just offering help and not competition as I recently moved to upstate NY (and it isn't sunny here). :(

Allie Go - 05:17pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#255 of 8457)

It was a beautiful day in the neighborhood for a treasure hunt. I sipped on coffee and scoped out Mounds Park. I'm convinced it's there. I think I'll go back tonight....see ya there.

Medallion Master - 05:20pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#256 of 8457)

yack,yack,yack Don't talk back prospect's where the medallion's at.

see ya at prospect ZOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chris Palmer - 05:26pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#257 of 8457)

There is a playground at Prospect Park. But I still think Mounds works better in a lot of ways. Last year, it all seemed so definite by Clue 4!!!

Alex Moy - 05:35pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#258 of 8457)

All that we had last year was Como, which is twice the size of both Mounds and Prospect. But, what I wanted is to know what the playground is like. If there are any slides, rosebeds, etc...

andyb - 05:45pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#259 of 8457)

Alex M: I'll check out Prospect but I'm in the Mounds Camp for several reasons. 1. "A Large object in view" this must mean something that is in the actual park and not visable from the park. There are too many Large Objects visable from all of these parks with "scenery" to make it plausiable that we are to look outside the park for the LO. One look at the Tower in Mounds will "guide" anyone there. 2. "Woods" in C2 isn't the same as "Wood St." 3. Native Amercian references abound. 4. Playgrounds and places for bikes/sleds are not "kids" specific. "Childs Way" by Mounds is.

Clue 5 will get shovels in hand! (ps. the digger formerly known as n.k.o.b. I got tired typing the "."s)

Pat Pfundstein - 06:17pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#260 of 8457)

Moed J. Newell is the man the park is named after, so... Oh what the heck. I give up, it even sounds lame to me. I hope no one actually believed me. Now that the clues are piling up I should stop clowning around (for the most part). I have (really!) leaning toward Highland, but you people have got me switching to Mounds. Still, I have a few questions. Who are the Rosebud Sioux? I have never heard of that branch of the Dakota. (Email me, I really would like to know as a local history geek.) What are the other Dakota references? While you have me turning in the wind, I should point out that all of the clues still apply to Highland with little or no stretching. And even though the third clue often points to what the medallion is hidden that does not preclude a double meaning. Mounds weakness is the lack of sledding (though I suppose it could be one of those RED HERRING sleds.) I agree by the way that the getting together and yakking is the best part of the hunt. Wouldn't mind finding that coin, though. Ta Ta and love to my wife at work!

Clara - 06:28pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#261 of 8457)

Mounds would be so obvious right now, but I just cant let go of the feeling I have that it's way too soon for us to know that. Tonights clue should be helpful. There are so many parks it could still be in!!!!! AHHHHH!

Pat Pfundstein - 06:31pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#262 of 8457)

Sorry about the giant image. I should have left good enough alone. I hope this fixes it.

Wright Winger - 06:39pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#263 of 8457)
99 YEAR OF THE COOLER

The reacon is back and Prospect is a little dinky park with a playground. The playground does have two slides and the top of each of these slides is a plastic dome. Its a little interesting but I dont think its there. One couple of hunters there though, good number of hunters at mounds and absoultly no-one at cherokee except a couple kids sleding or as I now refer to as zooming. Hey Pat, how did ya get the cool "Pic. O' Beef"?

jane Morehouse - 06:52pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#264 of 8457)

the rosebud reservation is in south Dakota.the sioux nation are its inhabitants.

(Deleted item originally posted by Alan Rogers on 07:06pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)
Steve Tylor - 07:06pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#266 of 8457)

I don't understand what they meant by demo & mode is there a conection between the words? Must break the code? I see that those 2 words use the same letters to spell 2 different words. I'm leaning towards Highland. Nice Night For A Hunt!

Alan Rogers - 07:08pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#267 of 8457)

Just wanted to put my 2 cents in and say that we enjoy the HUNT every year and this is a great way for us hunters to research and share ideas. As for Ideas of ours, they've been covered here already - nice work on the rearranging demo and mode to come up with Moed Newell Pat. I don't think it's there but it was a good effort. The woman and I are headed to scope out Mounds and Cherokee, and what the heck, Prospect may be the resting place for the load.

P.S. Come see MY BAND play at The Fine Line and sign our guestbook on the web page- Happy hunting all!

Wright Winger - 07:11pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#268 of 8457)
99 YEAR OF THE COOLER

Jane, how do you know all this? I hope your right linking the Rosebud reservation with the sioux who you say built the mounds at mounds park, but it might just be a cawinkedink like mentioning the great battle near the middle for midway at como and lexington was a carrier involved in midway and that is a street near como, so is the rosebud-sioux thing a fluke or does the guy (or girl) expect us to know that.

Kitty - 07:21pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#269 of 8457)

If anyone is still interested in the art deco idea the city hall and county

courthouse building is considered to be a prime example of it.

Also clue 2 mentions hidden goods - makes me think of Carver's Cave

which was located at the base of the bluff at the lower end of Mounds Park. There is a marker there across from Plum Street.

Loki - 07:24pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#270 of 8457)

Rosebud is a sled so look for any park with a big hill to go sledding. the hill will be the higher ground. as for clue four, it sounds to me like were looking for something related to computers. just a thought? see everyone out there tonight.

dave b - 07:26pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#271 of 8457)

just a quick question? isn't "rosebud" a sled? Also the Sioux didn't build the Mounds in Mounds Park, and sledding would if scary it one veered to the left

Kitty - 07:29pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#272 of 8457)

When I was a kid they used to slide down the mounds, now kids slide down the hill from the beacon.

nimrod - 07:31pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#273 of 8457)

HELLO! I am but one the three famous medallion NIMRODS...... And I have a feeling that this is our year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tom Heikkila - 07:49pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#274 of 8457)

Steve Tylor, if you rearrange the letters of "demo" and "mode" like the authors of the clues did, you can also get the word "dome". From either Mounds or Cherokee you should be able to see both the cathedral and capitol domes. Which one is better for sliding? Of course, this is all assuming that I am understanding the clues right. Also, I have not actually been out to verify sight lines or the presence of a sliding area. If you read some of the previous posts, there is a sliding area at Mounds with a beacon on high ground, does this also give a nice view of the domes? Well, this is my train of thought right now. Now it is time to head out and do some investigating of my theories. Maybe tomorrow I'll think about digging. P.S. Where is Prospect Park?

nimrod - 08:02pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#275 of 8457)

I think that all of the clues so far do NOT lead to Mounds park. There is another park that all of the clues fit perfectly, without trying to force the point. It is a park that it has never been at before. That is where the NIMRODS will be, all alone, (so far)

BeeyoB - 08:02pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#276 of 8457)

Joe? Where'd Joe go? Good riddens. Mounds seems the spot. The beacon, the sledding hill, Thorn St, etc. Has anyone seen the Virgin Mary display up there (ie Mother lode)? I still think we're missing something with the "code", but I've re-configured that clue endless times and I'm still confused. Isn't Prospect in Sillyapolis?? Luck.

coinseeker - 08:05pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#277 of 8457)

Hi Everyone! I tend to think that the word mother must mean something. Why else would he use it? Also, I'm not so sure that the meaning of "Rosebud" has to do with an Indian Tribe.

coinseeker - 08:13pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#278 of 8457)

Could he possibly be referencing Roseville? Or is it hidden in a rosebud?

nimrod - 08:14pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#279 of 8457)

hey, Robert, if you are going to mounds park you will be wasting your time. That is not where the coin is at!!!!!

nimrod - 08:16pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#280 of 8457)

Hello Coinseeker, Roseville is not in the St. Paul limits, which is where you should be according to clue #1

Greg Sax - 08:17pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#281 of 8457)

Robert: the Prospect Park that keeps coming up is actually the one that's on the West Side of St. Paul. It's a dinky little park and recon from Wright Winger confirms my suspicion that it's too small to support a major dig. Snowball2 got excited about nearby Prospect Terrace Park, but there isn't much land there either. coinseeker: it's definitely in St. Paul, not Roseville.

coinseeker - 08:17pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#282 of 8457)

Not necessarily, in the past, he has also used "in a St. Paul park" and it turned out to be in a suburb.

Greg Sax - 08:18pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#283 of 8457)

coinseeker: Which year? That would be an unfair clue in my opinion and I'd like to look it up.

Wes Evans - 08:19pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#284 of 8457)

I've been hunting the elusive treasure for years. This is the first year I have used the pc to hunt. Wow!!! this is cool to see so many opinions flying about!!

nimrod - 08:20pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#285 of 8457)

Coinseeker, I am sorry to say that your information is incorrect. He has never stated that and then put the coin in the suburb, I have all clues in front of me at this moment.

coinseeker - 08:21pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#286 of 8457)

Sometimes he uses the phrase "Ramsey County" and other times he uses "St. Paul".

Medallion Fever - 08:21pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#287 of 8457)

Well, hello everyone! I don't have the internet at work, so I can only join in the evening. I see that everything I already thought of is printed so I don't have much input. Mounds still sounds really good at this time.The definition of zoom: To climb suddenly and sharply, as an ariplane is a great one for the airport. I don't think the sledding fits real well. But show me a kid who wouldn't love to be in an airplane. Any more thoughts?

Wes Evans - 08:24pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#288 of 8457)

I think that the clues of the kids zooming and the rosebud clues might not be refering to each other... just a thought

Medallion Fever - 08:25pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#289 of 8457)

nimrod: you wouldn't happen to be one of the three that found it at Battle Creek, would you?

nimrod - 08:26pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#290 of 8457)

coinseeker, when he says St. Paul it is inside the city limits, when he says Ramsey County it could be in St. Paul still, but it also could be in a suburb.

coinseeker - 08:26pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#291 of 8457)

I'm not ready to lock into any one spot yet, it's too early and alot of things could change. Hope the 5th clue helps pinpoint the park!

Medallion Fever - 08:26pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#292 of 8457)

I keep trying to rearrange the letters in mother lode, and get nothing. So it must be referring to the river somehow.

nimrod - 08:29pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#293 of 8457)

coinseeker, no, but I am going to be one of the three women who find it this year, I know where it is, and its not at mounds. P.S. do you know what nimrod means????

(Deleted item originally posted by Medallion Fever on 08:29pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)
coinseeker - 08:29pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#295 of 8457)

nimrod - anything's possible. I'm trying to keep an open mind. Hopefully he will be consistant with the clues.

Medallion Fever - 08:30pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#296 of 8457)

I know the slang for nimrod, but that must not be it. Am I right?

nimrod - 08:30pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#297 of 8457)

why would you think Mother Lode means a river?

Medallion Master - 08:31pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#298 of 8457)

Big vs small you guy's know it all . A major dig it only take's one to find it . here how about this the medallion has never been hidden in the same park back to back check it out a rose is a rose. COMO????????

nimrod - 08:32pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#299 of 8457)

hey Fever, how can you call yourself a Hunter if you dont know the meaning of NIMROD?

Medallion Fever - 08:33pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#300 of 8457)

I'm not quite sure why to be honest. I read all 200 and some of the messages I missed during the day. And in one of them someone gave the definition of a trench or something to that effect that a river follows. I could be wrong too.

coinseeker - 08:33pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#301 of 8457)

nimrod - meaning "a mighty hunter"

Medallion Fever - 08:34pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#302 of 8457)

Do I need to know the meaning of nimrod to be a hunter? I'm not here to get in a battle of wits. You asked, I honestly answered.

Pat Pfundstein - 08:34pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#303 of 8457)

Wright Winger I followed the instructions under preferences (Water Cooler). My wife is a graphic designer, and has all sorts of neato retro scans all over the place. Unfortunately, I failed to crop the beef properly, leaving my picture file several times too large. Thank goodness my darling came home and rescued me, hence the more dignified facade. I am itching for the latest clue!!

Medallion Master - 08:36pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#304 of 8457)

I'm glad you told me because I didn't know that. I had never heard that definition before.

Wes Evans - 08:37pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#306 of 8457)

hey medallion master you said that allready...

Medallion Master - 08:38pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#307 of 8457)

Rosebud is the name of a sled in an old movie around the Hearst Castle though I can't think of the name. I think it's at Highland (high ground). The sledding, the water tower (dome) and woods. It's early yet.

nimrod - 08:40pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#309 of 8457)

ANYONE OUT THERE WHO WANT TO DISCUSS THAT COIN WE ALL WANT TO FIND?

coinseeker - 08:42pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#310 of 8457)

okay nimrod, I'm listening.��

nimrod - 08:44pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#311 of 8457)

hey friend, no battle just trying to warm you up so you will be ready to figure out the clue when it comes out.....we are a special breed, we shall stick togeather till someone gets lucky!!!!!!!!

Medallion Fever - 08:44pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#312 of 8457)

In the definition of mother, one of them says Native: one's mother language. And lode is a vein of mineral ore. Also known as lead. The river definition was false, I guess. Of course, my dictionary could be wrong.

Medallion Fever - 08:45pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#313 of 8457)

Sorry if I came off a little ignorant.

coinseeker - 08:46pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#314 of 8457)

I know this is going to sound stupid, but how about transposing the word mother. I come up with the word Thermo.

Pat Pfundstein - 08:48pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#315 of 8457)

My Webster's Unabridged gives a definition of lode as 'a waterway or canal'. It is possible that the Father of Waters is being referred to as the Mother of Lodes, but I really think this just refers to the medallion (the treasure we seek). But then I have never found it. Say, Nimrod, have you checked out Newell Park?

(Deleted item originally posted by The Clue Master on 08:49pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)
Medallion Fever - 08:50pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#317 of 8457)

I only come up with words that don't make sense. Hotmer, remtho, throme....

Medallion Fever - 08:51pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#318 of 8457)

I suppose the iron ore carriers go through there.

Medallion Fever - 08:52pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#319 of 8457)

So my Encarta does not know all.

Medallion Fever - 08:54pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#320 of 8457)

That would be where the river, or waterway, came from that I read earlier, I couldn't remember the exact definition.

coinseeker - 08:54pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#321 of 8457)

so what do you think the treasure is hidden in? Any ideas?

nimrod - 08:55pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#322 of 8457)

well Pat, I would have no reason to head out to Newell for that is not where the Medallion is at this year.

Pat Pfundstein - 08:56pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#323 of 8457)

True enough. I'll see you where it is if I figure this out.

BeeyoB - 09:04pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#324 of 8457)

New screen name, same old Bob. Has anyone thought of the impact a search has? It seems that they put it in a park that is "under construction" "face lift" etc. Como was that, so was Harriet. Now, I seem to remember Mounds with some face lift stuff going on last summer. Just thinking big picture, and the impact, although safety dosen't fit-it's a long way down at Mounds. Anyone seen the Virgin Mary display up there? Or am I "miss" informed once again?

iris sander - 09:07pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#325 of 8457)

I think theres a pasta factory down by the river that has a lrge rose painted on the side of the building if memory serves me correctly One can view this from Cherokee.

nimrod - 09:14pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#326 of 8457)

cherokee is not, I repeat not the spot!!!!!

Wes Evans - 09:16pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#327 of 8457)

nimrod, you seem quite sure of the fact that it's not at cherokee...

nimrod - 09:17pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#328 of 8457)

Well, I will be gone for a while now I am heading out to the CORRECT park to pick up that darn coin, If you see me there say Hi, but no one else has been there so far. HASTA LA VISTA,BABY!

Dave VanHorn - 09:20pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#329 of 8457)

Uh ohhhh, there goes nimrod to find the medallion in her backyard finally. :)

nimrod - 09:21pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#330 of 8457)

Wes, I am 100% sure that it is not at Cherokee, Mounds, Prospect, Newell, Phalen, Como or Harriet - although I could be wrong and I have never been the very first to the correct park, but my 17 years in this activity tells me that this is the year of the NIMRODS!!!!!!!!!!!

Medallion Fever - 09:33pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#331 of 8457)

Well I believe that these are all great ideas! I guess now we just wait unitl 11:30. Does it come out at exactly 11:30, or sometime there after?

BeeyoB - 09:40pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#332 of 8457)

Mounds Update via cell phone, modem, digital two-way, gps, etc. About 25-30 people searching. The Virgin Mary stuff is from the old Mounds Park Hospital. In the foyer, there's a dedication (sp?). Also, what about the park down on Kellogg, where the new bridge is? Any insights? Just speculating waiting for #5, as we think this new clue should nail it down.

Allie Go - 09:53pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#333 of 8457)

I just got back from Mounds...only a few people were there when I left tonight. I really wanted to buy the parks book...maybe next time. Last year at Como the clues gave the boundarys (i.e. Horton St.) The clue said something about Dr. Seuss. Well, I'm thinking that "rosebud" simply means Thorn St. That would be another boundary.

Jake836 - 10:08pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#334 of 8457)

Anybody here hear of a Swede Hollow Park? Also, please help me get the next clue through the internet I can not access the right address or window to get the clue!!!

The Woman And I - 10:15pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#335 of 8457)
Alan and Jill

Ahoy there fellow medallion hunters! Mounds Park seems to be the hot spot this evening. There were about 30 people diggin' when we left to scout out Cherokee and Prospect parks. Prospect seems like it could be the spot but it's too small to accomidate a large searching party. Cherokee doesn't seem like a suitable resting place for the treasure but it's still early. 11:30 is taking forever to get here! POWER TO THE PEOPLE! (the woman made me say that)

BeeyoB - 10:15pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#336 of 8457)

Swede is located by Payne Ave and 7th street...What are you thinking? Now I have to study that park also. Looks like a long night for me ;-) Find the clues at http://www.pioneerplanet.com/archive/wintercarnival/index.htm Luck.

Mr. Fee - 10:16pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#337 of 8457)

Hi, Does anybody think that it could be anywhere the John Rose Oval (ice arena).

violator - 10:24pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#338 of 8457)

All day thursday, just me, my shovel, and my wife telling me we should give this up and go home. See you all at "the park" I still dont know where it is though. Have been within 20 feet twice though. I'm afraid its my year all.

john blake - 10:26pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#339 of 8457)

check the last 10 spots where the treasure was found you'll notice they didn't mark 1987 when it was at indian mounds park you'll find the map in the pioneer planet this is a internet clue pointing to mounds

BeeyoB - 10:28pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#340 of 8457)

Fee, Roseville's out, not in "St. Paul". See previous postings. I like the idea, but....who knows.

The Woman And I - 10:34pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#341 of 8457)
Alan and Jill

Good eye John! Here's one: The third line in the first clue indicates the treasure is within view of the big ONE on top of the 1st Bank Building?

p.s. go HERE and sign my band's guest book and see where we're playing next.

Mike Armstrong - 11:09pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#342 of 8457)

could someone please tell me what streets mounds park is on? I haven't been there since a field trip in 2nd grade...

Kathy - 11:16pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#343 of 8457)

Mounds Park is on Earl St. and Mounds Blvd. (or Mounds St. if you go down further).

nimrod - 11:18pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#344 of 8457)

Well, i am back from "THE PARK" (not Mounds) and I have not as of yet found it, but soon. By the way does anyone know when the medallion was hidden? ie: two weeks before the hunt, one day? let me know!

The Woman And I - 11:21pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#345 of 8457)
Alan and Jill

NIMROD, Which "PARK" are you referring to? If you read my earlier postings, Have I been there yet?

Kathy - 11:24pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#346 of 8457)

I was up at Mounds earlier (HI to the RV man!!!) and I was wondering - for those of you who actually went there - can you see BOTH domes from there, or can you only see the capitol. Because it was pretty foggy, and I could only see the capitol.

Dave VanHorn - 11:25pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#347 of 8457)

I'm Still sticking mainly with Mounds until this next clue comes out.Clue #6 should seal things up. But for now Prospect and Swede Hollow Aren't bad ideas either. A couple of directional links follow below. Just type these in or drag and highlight them and hit control+c to copy then move to location to open and hit shift+insert!

http://www.pioneerplanet.com/archive/bikeguide/40_ride.html http://www.pioneerplanet.com/archive/bikeguide/images/maps/40map_lg.gif http://www.mapquest.com are about the most detailed maps on the internet, for those of you without a good one. Also You can pick up a great one from st.paul parks and rec, every single one(park) and good.

SwedeHollow http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?screen=ia_find&link=ia_find&uid=903a4yb0301ocbu

nimrod - 11:28pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#348 of 8457)

THE WOMAN AND I/ I have not read your earlier, what park are you refering to

Kathy - 11:28pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#349 of 8457)

GET READY TO GET CLUE #5!!!!!

Sanity - 11:29pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#350 of 8457)

Clue #5 will be my salvation! We will find it!!

Dave VanHorn - 11:29pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#351 of 8457)

Alas,

We'd be the first to say that a place to play Can make any winter more pleasurable City streets will also show you the way

To riches that are almost immeasurable

Tom Heikkila - 11:33pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#352 of 8457)

I was out tonight at Mounds and could only see the Capitol dome. It was dark and foggy so maybe you can see both. If looking downtown from MOunds, the Capitol dome is a major feature on the skyline. In regards to an earlier post about the big 1, nice theory but it requires reading alot into the clue.

Kathy - 11:33pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#353 of 8457)

So now we know what the clue is - any ideas as to what it means??? Maybe the FIRST refers to First Bank - and you can see city streets from Mounds!!!!!!

The Woman And I - 11:37pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#354 of 8457)
Alan and Jill

Maybe "THE DADDY" or whatever his name was from way back was right, the thing's in a CAN? How did someone come up with a Campell's Soup can earlier?

Nimrod, I was referring to Prospect and Cherokee.

Mike Armstrong - 11:37pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#355 of 8457)

Playground equipment?

violator - 11:38pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#356 of 8457)

oh its heating up now!!! People this one is the kicker. Grab them shovels!!

nimrod - 11:39pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#357 of 8457)

YA-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Tom Heikkila - 11:40pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#358 of 8457)

Where is Prospect? I only know of the one out west.

J - 11:40pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#359 of 8457)

You can see both domes from Mounds Park.

nimrod - 11:41pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#360 of 8457)

THE WOMAN AND HIM - nope !

Kathy - 11:42pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#361 of 8457)

Mike That playground equipment is a good idea! I still haven't heard what you guys think about the "First" and "city streets"!

Medallion Fever - 11:47pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#362 of 8457)

In the winter, what type of place would make playing more pleasureable? Some type of in door place?

nimrod - 11:48pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#363 of 8457)

Is anyone going back out tonight? Still no answer to when the coin is hidden?

Medallion Fever - 11:49pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#364 of 8457)

Are there any streets named after cities?

Medallion Fever - 11:49pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#365 of 8457)

I don't think anyone knows when it was hidden. That's an on going question

nimrod - 11:50pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#366 of 8457)

I think Ice scating makes winter more pleasurable........also medallion hunting..

Medallion Fever - 11:51pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#367 of 8457)

I wish I could see my map in the dark

Kathy - 11:51pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#368 of 8457)

I go to church with a lady whose father used to hide the Medallion. She used to tell us that they would hide the Medallion 1-2 weeks beforehand. I'm not sure, though.

Medallion Fever - 11:53pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#369 of 8457)

Skating's good.

Medallion Fever - 11:55pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#370 of 8457)

If that's true, they may hide it in the snow for those who think it's hidden long before hand

The Woman And I - 11:55pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#371 of 8457)
Alan and Jill

Nim- I don't have a map in front of me. can you give a hint? :)

What does "imeasurable" really mean? ҿ�

Medallion Fever - 11:56pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#372 of 8457)

I suppose it wouldn't be too safe to put it out a long time before in case someone found it

Wes Evans - 11:56pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#373 of 8457)

hey dr. you trying to find it too???

late night digger - 11:56pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#374 of 8457)

city streets may refer to urban pl. or mounds blvd. I think the clues are still pointing us to the park. we need some clues to pinpoint where in the park.

Wes Evans - 11:58pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#375 of 8457)

het dr. you hunting here too?? let me know!

late night digger - 11:59pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#376 of 8457)

does anyone remember how deep it was buried last year? I believe it was under 2 feet of snow. It had not snowed for nearly a month before the hunt.

nimrod - 12:00am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#377 of 8457)

Immeasurable......That can not be measured,boundless,vast Also I do not believe this onslought of the "First" is helping us any I think that he is overusing it to throw (ooops) people off the track????? HELP----how do you use different colors and cute faces?

Medallion Fever - 12:03am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#378 of 8457)

Unless it's in a park downtown st paul? I don't think they'd put it in rice park, though

Elsinore - 12:03am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#379 of 8457)

It seems to me the jury is still out on the demo-mode / mother lode issue? The only thing I seel relevant the connecting Mother to Mary to the old Hospital. But whats the demo? We're gonna kick ourselves.

nimrod - 12:04am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#380 of 8457)

THE WOMAN AND I - please respond.

(Deleted item originally posted by The Woman And I on 12:05am Jan 29, 1998 CST)
violator - 12:05am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#382 of 8457)

I may be way out there but isn't a college education immeasurable. There is also a rec center there, good sleding hills, and I still think that rosebud refers to the container it is in. I also think you can see the space needle thing from the state fair from there. Anyone using this info can just mail me half...:>

The Woman And I - 12:07am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#383 of 8457)
Alan and Jill

�Nim- First, what PARKARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? feel free to Email me by clicking my picture

Medallion Fever - 12:10am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#384 of 8457)

I think they're just telling us that finding it and getting the money, etc. will be immeasurable

SNAKE 88 - 12:11am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#385 of 8457)

dont think its at mounds

The Woman And I - 12:11am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#386 of 8457)
Alan and Jill

WHOOAAAAA!! It's gettin late, the woman's gonna kill me. Good Luck ALL! ��

BeeyoB - 12:14am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#387 of 8457)

Live Mounds Update...logging off. We'll wait for #6! Has anyone seen my truck? Luck. Streets. Oh, my.

Tom Heikkila - 12:14am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#388 of 8457)

Demo and mode are anagram words and another word that can come from that is "dome". You can see the capitol dome from Mounds. Also, Mounds Park has two streets by it, "Suburban Ave." and "Urban Pl."

mikem - 12:22am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#389 of 8457)

think ive got it ill be back to tell all ive got it

Elsinore - 12:23am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#390 of 8457)

It seems to me the Uban-Suburban may be a little far-fetched. Of course, BURNS also fits there! Don't get me wrong, I'm sure its at Mounds. Its just not giving us anything more specific inside Mounds. None of those 3 streets intersect. Urban is actually a few blocks away according to my map. But come to think of it, there is a thin stretch btwn the road and the cliff. I think 'place to play' is specific to a playground or sled hill

SNAKE 88 - 12:25am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#391 of 8457)

MOUNDS ISNT IT

J - 12:31am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#392 of 8457)

I think ELsinore is right. They will get more detailed where in the park it is in later clues.

nimrod - 12:31am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#393 of 8457)

well I guess I will be beaming off of this planet and getting some shuteye....Good Luck to every one except the woman and I who dissed me.

KRasmussen - 12:32am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#394 of 8457)

Hey gimpper. immeasurable- knowledge, sentimental value. Good Night. Think I can't anymore.

Tom Heikkila - 12:33am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#395 of 8457)

Looks like the Water Cooler is all mine...I think I'll try something fancy: blue text is fancy. That was pleasurable. Big text...hmmm, immeasurable.

Greg Sax - 01:27am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#397 of 8457)

See, the fancy stuff isn't so hard to do, so let's center more on deciphering clues than on showing each other up. The occassional bold or color can be helpful to draw attention to something, but there's no need to splatter our senses. Back to the latest clue: I think this is the typical "so you think you know where it is" clue that falls near the end of the first week. Sure, there's some strong, descriptive words to dig apart here, but I think it's a stall tactic. They have "place to play" kinds of clues every year. "City streets" is key because "they" (plural) will show you the way. "Suburban Ave." and "Urban Pl." are a better interpretation than anyone's giving credit for at this wee hour (way to go Tom). I'm also beginning to think Thorn Street is a nice idea for "Rosebud." Sure, the clue probably has something to do with the movie, but clues have been known to have double meanings. Take care all. Seeya' when it's light out.

Diaper Boys - 01:27am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#398 of 8457)

HEY TREASURE HUNTERS!

Mounds Park seems to be the early choice of everyone....and not a bad choice based on the given clues.

By the way it's not attached to a rose container...How do I know you ask? Because I have held the coveted prize and watched as people frantically dug and scraped hoping to find it unknowing that it had been found...it's to big to fit in a rose holder, it's a little bigger then a rosebud.

Proud To Say : Have you found the treasure in the past?

"Yep, Been there done that!"

Now only to do it again!

Greg Sax - 01:31am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#399 of 8457)

Wait, before I go...Diaper Boys: which are you? Tom, Mark, Dan or Phil?

Greg Sax - 01:47am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#400 of 8457)

Looks like Diaper just stopped in to taunt. Peace out.

violator - 02:06am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#401 of 8457)

Maybe i'm on crack, but the last two years they have used the second clue to describe what the "med" i in. I think high ground may refer to mountain grown. just a thought

Allie Go - 02:18am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#402 of 8457)

The clues have honed it down to a one-block radius. Thorn, Suburban, Urban....well, close to one. Help me out on the "almost immeasurable." That scares me. It might be hard to pinpoint....lots of digging. Hmm.

Alex Moy - 05:31am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#403 of 8457)

There better be a playground in that area then or you guys are lost. Try the playground at the west end of Delos road. Nearby are Water and Wood streets. A playground is a place to play and where kids zoom. Prospect is the park to go to!

Alex Moy - 05:35am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#404 of 8457)

There is a playround on the west end of suburban. How did you come up with those streets?

Mr. Know It All - 08:11am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#405 of 8457)

Just got the clue!!!!!!!!!! We'd be the first to say that a "place to play can make any winter more pleasurable". Could he be talking about an indoor skating rink?

(can make any winter more pleasureable) H-m-m-m-m-m, This is only something to think about (highland) Don't move from mounds yet!

Huntress - 08:14am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#406 of 8457)

What happened to the Phalen idea. Mounds just doesn't seem right. This word game is getting to me!

SLEEPLESS GIMPER - 08:25am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#407 of 8457)

How about Thron and Earl as being the riches immeasurable? The Dukes riches are immeasurable. What about a city street (Lexington) taking you to the suburb---Cental Park. Hurry up and get us somewhere I want to start digging!!

The Woman And I - 08:36am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#408 of 8457)
Alan and Jill

I think Central Park has been eliminated due to the fact that it is in Roseville. The two city related streets by Mounds seem to be the only thing I can pull from this clue. Arghh.

Dale Gormanson - 08:54am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#409 of 8457)

Hello treasure hunters: after talking with the sleuths at work we figure "rosebud" refers to Citzen Kane which Orsen Wells wrote. It's about a newspaper man, and was a take off of William Randolf Hearst--a newspaper publisher. Anyway the Pioneer Press Printing Bldg is in great view across the great Missisippi from Mounds Park--which is high ground. Kids go zoom in the playground, the anagram "dome" fits, i.e., the capital...It's amazing that the Mounds at the Park are believed to be 1500-2000 years old and the Hopewell people buried their people there. The archelogist diggers were probably as exicited as the digger who finds the hidden treasure--if its at the park....P.S. the large object that guides the way may be the beacon...duke

andyb - 09:07am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#410 of 8457)

Clue five is filler! Two interesting repetitions of words: "pleasure(able)" and "first".

Alex M: went to Prospect, it could be there. No large object to guide however

mk everts - 09:11am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#411 of 8457)

Hello, all!!! I hate to beat a dead horse, but could someone *please* tell me exactly *where* the Med was found when it was found in Battle Creek Park????? Which of the many sections, and what by?????

I'd much appreciate it. Inquiring minds what to know!! LOL!!!

Thanks!

greenslvs2 - 09:14am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#412 of 8457)

I'd much appreciate it. Inquiring minds what to know!! LOL!!!

Thanks!

Snowball2 - 09:16am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#413 of 8457)

Hey just checking in this morning. Only had the one thought from:

We'd be the first to say that a place to play Can make any winter more pleasurable

People said Ice Skating is playing and pleasurable, but what is more pleasurable than a WARMING HOUSE after ice skating???

Dose this spark anyone????

CK1 - 09:28am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#414 of 8457)

Hello Diggers -- There were some good thinkers here last night: They gave me the City streets (Suburban, Urban, Thorn near Mounds). I foresee a huge trench stretching from the Tower in Mounds towards the capital dome. And maybe another stretching from the playground towards the 1st bank sign.

Snowball2 - 09:39am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#415 of 8457)

hey CK1

Did you get anyting else (besides city streets) out of clue #5??

(Deleted item originally posted by Patty Wegener on 10:02am Jan 29, 1998 CST)
andyb - 10:03am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#417 of 8457)

Hey Diggers! This is the last day (1/29) to send in your regisitration to be eligible for the extra grand if you find the Med. And no, I don't work for the Paper. Just hate to have someone find it and lose the extra cash like the guy did last year

J - 10:07am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#418 of 8457)

The teasure has always been found.To get old clues go to the St. Paul library.

Allie Go - 10:07am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#419 of 8457)

I finally left Mound at 1:30 a.m. I didn't want it to be just me and the three drunk guys that looked like they had lost interest in digging and were more into sitting in the snow. I'm stuck on: "To riches that are almost immeasurable." Help me out. Could it just be he's being more specific as he refers to the Indian Mounds? I can't think of anything else...unless maybe there's no way to measure where the Medallion is because it's randomly in the middle of a piece of land with no markers. That seems unlikely though. Pay attention to the word "first." It's been used twice now in the clues. I think I've got a good idea on that, but I'm not sure. I'll check it out today.

Mr. Know It All - 10:10am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#420 of 8457)

I hate to even go there! B-u-t Immeasurable riches, probably means PROSPERITY

Allie Go - 10:14am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#421 of 8457)

Okay...So where is Prosperity...good thought!

Snowball2 - 10:17am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#422 of 8457)

Hey MR KNOW IT ALL, where are you going??? Prospect Mounds WHERE???

CK1 - 10:26am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#423 of 8457)

Does anyone think that we've "cracked the code" referred to in Clue 4? Does it mean that the cracked code will give us the large object? I know, I know "demo" and "mode" = Dome and Dome (the Capital and The Cathedral). But why the singular on "A large object" and not Large Objects?

J - 10:28am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#424 of 8457)

I think Mr. Know It All your over analyzing.Prospect park is too small, I don't see the rosebud connection, or sliding.

Shelly - 10:33am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#425 of 8457)

Isn't there a Prosperity Park???? I think my brother used to play hockey there -- and I'm sure there's a warming house!!

Joe Medalion - 10:34am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#426 of 8457)

I'd like to apologize to ALL for my bratty attitude the last 3 days. Thank you.

Joe Medalion - 10:35am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#427 of 8457)

I don't think that there is a Prosperity Park, Shelly.

Snowball2 - 10:37am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#428 of 8457)

Thank you Joe, Now let's start digging with each other!!!

Joe Medalion - 10:37am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#429 of 8457)

Does anybody think that the code involves 'city streets'?

CK1 - 10:37am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#430 of 8457)

Say, Where do kids like to zoom? Maybe it's a place that can be seen (or watched, as the clue says)-- along with the Capital Dome -- from the "mother Lode". Is there a place downtown, on the river, a bike path maybe, that kids play, ride bikes, slide, etc...Anyone know of any place like that? PS -- Welcome back Joe!

Shelly - 10:37am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#431 of 8457)

Thanks, just thought I would throw it out there!

Joe Medalion - 10:38am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#432 of 8457)

Thanks for accepting, Snowball2.

Joe Medalion - 10:39am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#433 of 8457)

Hey CK1, Harriet Island has biking & walking trails and a medium-sized playground!

Mr. Know It All - 10:40am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#434 of 8457)

To : J. There was a year that the medallion er um treasure Chest was not found! 1950 something the prize was given to charity!

Pat Pfundstein - 10:41am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#435 of 8457)

I hate being stuck at work and watching this from afar. Has anyone thought of Clayland Park? It's near Newell?

Joe Medalion - 10:41am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#436 of 8457)

I know that Mounds Blvd., Earl Street, Thorn Street, and Frank Ave. are all in or near Mounds Park, so does anybody see a connection?

Patty Wegener - 10:42am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#437 of 8457)

What about the play on the words "Mother Lode" Has anyone thouht about a place where "ore" as in mineral which is what mother lode refers to in the dictionary. What do you think about a place that has been mined in previous years for minerals. What about Pigs Eye Park? Barges use to park in that area.

Joe Medalion - 10:42am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#438 of 8457)

What streets intercect at Clayland Park?

Snowball2 - 10:42am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#439 of 8457)

It's been bothering me, so I have to at least throw it out there.

What about the Capitol Mall and the Ice Skating rink that the built?? (kids go zoom?, The dome??, the capitol as a marker?). The streets don't make sense though.

Any thoughts??

Pat Pfundstein - 10:44am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#440 of 8457)

Clayland Place and Clayland St intersect but I'm again being a fool! It's a tiny park with NO sledding, no woods, no water no rosebuds!

Mr. Know It All - 10:46am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#441 of 8457)

It's called (Officially) Prosperty Heights Park. It's between White Bear Ave. and Hazelwood on Maryland Ave......................................

CK1 - 10:47am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#442 of 8457)

From Prospect "lode" park, Cherokee Park "high ground" You can: "watch for a place where Kids like to zoom" at the Harriet Island. You can see "Water and Woood in the neighborhood" (Street names). You have to take "city streets" to get there. You can see the Capitol and Cathedral domes, The 1st bank sign is clearly visible ("the lucky one" "the first to say"). How does "Rosebud" fit? perhaps the thing the medallion is in/attached to? What do you think?

Patty Wegener - 10:47am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#443 of 8457)

Just found Prosperity Park. There's a road called "East Rose Street" just south of Prosperity Park. It's off of Maryland Ave. or Cty. 31.

(Deleted item originally posted by Joe Medalion on 10:47am Jan 29, 1998 CST)
Joe Medalion - 10:50am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#445 of 8457)

CK1's on to something! I'm grabbing my shovel as soon as I leave the Water Cooler!

Billy Joe - 10:50am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#446 of 8457)

CK'1you have a point.

(Deleted item originally posted by Shelly on 10:50am Jan 29, 1998 CST)
Snowball2 - 10:50am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#448 of 8457)

M.K.I.A>> Do you know how big it is??

Joe Medalion - 10:52am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#449 of 8457)

Who is this 'Billy Joe' guy?

Joe Medalion - 10:53am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#450 of 8457)

What exactly does M.K.I.A>> mean, Snowball2?

J - 10:53am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#451 of 8457)

Sorry, MR. KNOW IT ALL the Hunt started in 1952. and its always been found.And its Prosperity Rec. Center near Prosperity Heights Elementary school, off Germain street.

Billy Joe - 10:53am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#452 of 8457)

hey Joe Medalion we had the same idea.

Snowball2 - 10:55am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#453 of 8457)

M.K.I.A.=Mr. Know It All

CK1 - 11:01am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#454 of 8457)

Billy Joe, Are you a digger? what's your current theory on the location of the Mother Lode?

ADDENDUM: Joe - I'm such a sucker. Snowball2 Thanks.

Snowball2 - 11:04am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#455 of 8457)

Joe I'm Giving Up On You!!!!!

Joe Medalion=Billy Joe

Stop wasting our time. Either help us or please leave.

Mr. Know It All - 11:07am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#456 of 8457)

To: J, go directly to your official city of St. Paul map (which I help produce) and take a look. It's named Prosperity Hts. Park. Yes your absolutly right about the hunt. It did start in 1952 and as I said before 1950 SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Snowball2 - 11:09am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#457 of 8457)

You're Welcome CK1, Just trying to keep it clean!!!

CK1 - 11:12am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#458 of 8457)

Now, tell me where is this Prosperity hts. park? this is worth investigating? And M.K.I.A., is the map you produce on-line?

The Woman And I - 11:13am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#459 of 8457)
Alan and Jill

Sorry about this in advance but i just want to see if y'all would add anything to it:

Clue 1

The season has begun for wintry fun And here's what you need to know If you want to end up as the lucky one (first reference to "one") A St. Paul park is where you must go (it's in St. Paul!)

Clue 2

In the neighborhood are water and woods (street names; golfing; drinking fountain; actual water+trees?) And lots of scenery all around (how come he used the word lots instead of alot? Referring to flower planters- little lots (Planters) of flowers around?) So if you want to find the hidden goods (hidden falls? too obvious!) Look for a place with high ground. (mounds, hills, cliffs, plateaus, or maybe he means the medalion is not on the ground but is high up)

Clue 3

Roses don't bloom in winter's gloom (thorn street?) But a "Rosebud" could still give pleasure. (Rosebud brand sleds?) So watch for a place where kids like to zoom, (Zoom: flying, sledding, sliding, swinging) And you just might take home our treasure.

Clue 4

A large object in view will help guide you, (the airport beacon, the capitol, the big "one") But first you'll have to crack our code. So here's a demo of the mode to pursue, (two domes from demo and mode= the capitol and Cathedral) As you hunt for the mother lode. (Lode= river, vein of lead)

Clue 5

We'd be the first to say that a place to play (Second reference to "one"; Playground, tennis court, b-ball court/fields) Can make any winter more pleasurable (warming house, indoor sports?) City streets will also show you the way (Urban Pl. and Suburban Blvd) To riches that are almost immeasurable (???????????????.........

ill find it - 11:14am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#460 of 8457)

hi everyone tried looking up mother load in the dictionaryand it said- overlook could that be any help

Mayhem - 11:15am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#461 of 8457)

Someone mentioned Citizen Kane earlier. As far as I know the name of the SLED was Rosebud.

Kathy - 11:18am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#462 of 8457)

My Mom was saying that riches immeasurable might mean "Mounds of riches", which might refer to Mounds Park... Just a thought!

C Wheaton - 11:18am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#463 of 8457)

Lode in the dictionary also refers to a waterway. Mother Lode (Mississippi river). I agree with the reference to 1's, that's the firstbank sign. People are reading too much into the rosebud clue, it simply means sledding (Citizen Kane). I like the dome, mode, demo corolation, that's wither the capitol or cathedral. I like the Urban street argument and the measureable is probably what it's in. A cup perhaps.

ill find it - 11:20am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#464 of 8457)

any ideas what the "large object" is

ill find it - 11:23am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#465 of 8457)

and just how big is the coin anyway like a quarter?

Kathy - 11:25am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#466 of 8457)

ill find it - I think one year it was hidden inside an Oreo cookie, so I tkink it's about the same size.

CK1 - 11:26am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#467 of 8457)

C Wheaton- good call on the "Almost Immeasurable" = cup theory

J - 11:29am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#468 of 8457)

Mr. K I A, we are spliting hairs over the same park, I just don't see it there. P.S. are your maps on line?

Mr. Know It All - 11:31am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#469 of 8457)

Sorry, The only thing on line at this time (map) is just the immediate Downtown area.

Mr. Know It All - 11:32am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#470 of 8457)

Yep Same Park

Snowball2 - 11:34am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#471 of 8457)

Maybe I am digging too hard.

Immeasuarable= Unable to be measured, quantified.

Scale= Unit used to measure.

What is a scale that you can't measure with?? A Musical Scale!!!

Do any of our fore-runner parks have summer (or winter?) music festivals??

(Deleted item originally posted by Kathy on 11:35am Jan 29, 1998 CST)
laura kochevar - 11:37am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#473 of 8457)

The best place to hide something is the last place anyone would look.

The last place anyone would look is where it was hidden last time.

Near last year's site you can see the como observatory dome, the sledding hill on McMurray field, and a city street that shows you the way (midWAY parkWAY). There are many water sources and woods (both trees and golfing) and winter places to play (ski hills and broomball rinks). But, perhaps the clincher is "Rosebud". Directly between the dome and the sledding hill, close to midway, is a plaque to Larry Hodgson which reads "he left the roses here". I.e. he was a buddy to roses or a rose bud. Coincidence? Perhaps.

Desire-to-win - 11:38am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#474 of 8457)

I think the best idea is not to read a lot into the clues. As a previous winner said. Go back to the basics.

Desire-to-win - 11:41am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#475 of 8457)

I agree with Laura. What better place than last year. Great idea. Thanks for the info.

CK1 - 11:47am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#476 of 8457)

Snowball2 Is it significant that it says "Almost Immeasurable" meaning it can still be measured?

Kathy - 11:47am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#477 of 8457)

This is a long shot - so don't get mad at me - but has anyone noticed that the word "so" is listed three times in the clues, all on the third line? Now, I was looking at my city map, and the train tracks under Mounds Park is for the S.O.O. Railroad. What do you think? Coincidence?

Kathy - 11:50am Jan 29, 1998 CST (#478 of 8457)

If you rearrange the letters in "almost", you can spell "am lost". I don't know about you, but I certainly feel that way!

jill - 12:03pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#479 of 8457)

alan call me

foolsbee - 12:03pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#480 of 8457)

think we need to wait for tonights clue, that should narrow it down to the exact park. too confusing for me still, mounds is my guess, somewhere in the location of the playground

Desire-to-win - 12:12pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#481 of 8457)

There's a lot of people looking at Mounds as we speak. If it's there, it'll probably be found today.

Greg Sax - 12:17pm Jan 29, 1998 CST (#482 of 8457)

Hey, all. Lots of new folks are getting in on the action. Good to see. I haven't come up with much more since last night, but I'm staying in the Mounds camp. The "city streets" clue comes at the right time because this is about when they start bordering the medallion. Since I'm about 300 miles from the dig site: I was hoping for some eyes on a few questions. Is the Mounds playground pretty well dug up? How are the sightlines to the more obvious points of reference? Does it look like there could be more burial mound trouble this year or are people behaving? My guess is that the playground is simply visible and that it's not in the playground area. I spent too much time digging up the Harriet Playground to fall for that one again.

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