The Pioneer Press medallion has been found. Details are at our Winter Carnival page.
The hunt's over, but the discussion rages on ...
(4541 previous messages)Ian - 03:01am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4542 of 8457)
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Greg, you're welcome. Give credit where it is due. 
Charlie Pride - 03:02am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4543 of 8457)
I just drove by Mounds and there were only about 10 people digging
there compared to about 50 at Cherokee. Greg Sax - 03:03am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4544 of 8457)
Time to hit the hay...the drive back to the home computer was exhausting (massive snow from Eau Claire to Wisconsin Dells). I'll talk to whoever's present tomorrow. I'm afraid I'm relegated to e-digging from M'waukee from here on, but at least I can say I was there this weekend. Power to the Water Cooler. Peace out. First Timer - 03:05am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4545 of 8457)
@#$%&^! First Timer - 03:06am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4546 of 8457)
BINGO! See ya' guys. I'm going digging! Greg Sax - 03:09am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4547 of 8457)
Last post for the night (promise) ... Nathan: I was at Harriet. I made my first trip after Clue 3 and returned at least 35 more times...and still I wasn't as good as 2 out-of-work east siders. But, hey, they needed it more than I did. Now the guy from Woodbury that found it last year kind of got under my skin. I sincerely hope true diggers find it this year. We desperately need another story like the one with the women who found it at Battle Creek after 30 years of digging. Okay, modem off, lights out. shooting star - 03:10am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4548 of 8457)
When someone finds this darn thing, does anybody know if they'll explain all the clues on this web site, (at least their version) , or are we going to have to wait till next year? Nathan Trivette - 03:14am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4549 of 8457)
hey FIRST TIMER... WHAT WAS THAT ALL ABOUT???? shooting star - 03:19am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4550 of 8457)
Well, I'm going to bed. Good Luck to all. I'll talk to ya tomorrow. Ben Hunting - 03:24am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4551 of 8457)
Did anyone get anything out of the Immeasurable clue in connection with CP? DJ101DJ - 03:31am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4552 of 8457)
just got back from cp the place is a zoo. everyone digging every where. i have a strong feeling about cp. but does anyone know where the big object in view means? DJ101DJ - 03:34am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4553 of 8457)
ben hunting are we the only ones here? LostRaven - 03:34am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4554 of 8457)
Does anyone know if there is a horse shoe pit at Cherokee Park? DJ101DJ - 03:37am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4555 of 8457)
don't think that there is a horse shoe ring at cp. why the horse shoe ring LostRaven - 03:39am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4556 of 8457)
Oh, I'm grasping at anything now. I was just thinking about the words Lucky on from clue one. But I do think chairman might refer to a handicap sign maybe a sign on a door.
(Deleted item originally posted by DJ101DJ on 03:43am Feb 2, 1998 CST)Ben Hunting - 03:44am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4558 of 8457)
some say the large object is that big rock in the park I don't know if that's it but it's the only thing I can come up with unless it means the cathedrel(sp) Nathan Trivette - 03:47am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4559 of 8457)
the lucky is 777 on one of the doors at CP.... i havent seen it but someone else said that way back....
(Deleted item originally posted by Ben Hunting on 03:47am Feb 2, 1998 CST)LostRaven - 03:47am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4561 of 8457)
Large object was clue 4 and alot of people believe the code is referring to demo/mode=dome. So if that's true then I would think the large object is a dome,.. cathedral or capital. DJ101DJ - 03:48am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4562 of 8457)
we checked all the doors maybe a street sign Nathan Trivette - 03:49am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4563 of 8457)
Raven.. The commitee reference and the door reference in #9 means "chair" and "key" which is chair o key...... Ben Hunting - 03:50am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4564 of 8457)
777 is on the back door of bldg. with the three pyramids but what is immeasurable saying? DJ101DJ - 03:50am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4565 of 8457)
the 777 is on the building at cp. 777 at any casino is jackpot DJ101DJ - 03:52am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4566 of 8457)
immesurable is something that keeps going? don't really know Nathan Trivette - 03:53am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4567 of 8457)
Immeasurable probably means nothing but if it does i think it may refer to Citizen Kane a la Rosebud (possibly a large mansion in the area??).... see my idea about rosebud on the page or 2 b4 this one..... DJ101DJ - 03:54am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4568 of 8457)
immesurable is something that keeps going? don't really know LostRaven - 03:55am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4569 of 8457)
Well I'm probably wrong and usually am but I don't like the chair-o-key theory. I've heard it a few times tonight. That would only
tell us the park and all the clues have lead us there since day two. So I dunno.. DJ101DJ - 03:55am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4570 of 8457)
immesurable is something that keeps going? don't really know Ben Hunting - 03:57am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4571 of 8457)
then what is clue 5 about besides having a playground in the park? DJ101DJ - 03:57am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4572 of 8457)
lost raven were do you really think it is at LostRaven - 04:01am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4573 of 8457)
Well I like Cherokee Park just think chairman is something else. I think the word fore is more interesting than getting key from "To unlock the doorand be at the fore" and the words simply can't ignore imply really large. DJ101DJ - 04:01am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4574 of 8457)
personally i think that they need to get more detailed on the clues we know that they all point out cp. the only thing i don't get is the big object in view, the rocks are just not big enough Nathan Trivette - 04:05am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4575 of 8457)
Clue 9
To unlock the door and be at the fore
Of the crowds traipsing across our city,
Some advice you simply can't ignore
Is to think of the person who runs a committee.
THIS ONE MEANS CHEROKEE FOR SURE
Clue 8
To keep up the pace and win our race
There's no need to wander to and fro
Instead you should look near a place
Where three pyramids rise over the snow
3 PYRAMIDS IN CP AND STAY ON A PATH OR SIGHTLINE
Clue 7
If you just don't know where to go
Here's a clue to aid your decision:
The medallion that promises lots of dough
Is near a line of double division.
DOUBLE DIVISION IS ANNAPOLIS ST
DOUGH IS BAKER ST
Clue 6
If you're on the wrong track don't blow your stack
Just look for a plume of smoke in the skies
With this in view you'll soon be back
In the hunt for our valuable prize
NSP SMOKE STACKS... AND TRAIN TRACKS
Clue 5
We'd be the first to say that a place to play
Can make any winter more pleasurable
City streets will also show you the way
To riches that are almost immeasurable
CITY STREETS=ANNAPOLIS
Clue 4
A large object in view will help guide you,
But first you'll have to crack our code.
So here's a demo of the mode to pursue,
As you hunt for the mother lode.
MODE/DEMO=DOME
Clue 3
Roses don't bloom in winter's gloom
But a "Rosebud" could still give pleasure.
So watch for a place where kids like to zoom,
And you just might take home our treasure.
SLEDDING HILL AND POSSIBLY THE MEDALLION IS
ON THE BOTTOM OF A "SNOW DOME" (CITIZEN KANE)
Clue 2
In the neighborhood are water and woods
And lots of scenery all around
So if you want to find the hidden goods
Look for a place with high ground.
SELF EXPLANITORY..
AND THAT IS WHY CP IS A ZOO RIGHT NOW LostRaven - 04:06am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4576 of 8457)
Hey how about this. A handicap parking sign says handicap parking only. Advice you simply can't ignore and it's a picture of a man in a chair. a chairman... O.k. I should get some sleep right.. Nathan Trivette - 04:07am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4577 of 8457)
IF ONLY I HAD A CAR I WOULD BE THERE RIGHT NOW....... DJ101DJ - 04:08am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4578 of 8457)
lost raven the words unlock the door ( key ) chairman runs the commitee (cher ) in other words cp it has to be there
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0 Nathan Trivette - 04:09am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4579 of 8457)
Hey DJ.... Do my ideas make sense pretty much? DJ101DJ - 04:11am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4580 of 8457)
nathan what do you mean by SNOW DOME? OTHER THAN THAT ONE THEY ALL MAKE PERFECT SENSE. GOOD THINKING, ANY OTHER IDEAS Ben Hunting - 04:12am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4581 of 8457)
any protests "objections" happening in veiw of cp lately? LostRaven - 04:12am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4582 of 8457)
Well,, I think everything points to cherokee too. Looking at other ideas on tonights clue does not mean ya gotta go to a different park. But then again if it's in cherokee (which is where I was digging at 12:00am) then I dunno where.. So, if ya say hey we gotta at least consider some other possibilities or we could miss it all together. Nathan Trivette - 04:12am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4583 of 8457)
people read into these too much i think.... of course there is usually one or 2 deep meanings in all of the clues but this late in the game its just luck.... Ben Hunting - 04:14am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4584 of 8457)
lode=mineral salt=mineral morton=salt Nathan Trivette - 04:14am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4585 of 8457)
Snow Dome-----> when Kane drops the snowdome/globe at the beginning of the film while he mutters "Rosebud" which every1 in the film tries to figure out... You've seen Citizen Kane right??? DJ101DJ - 04:18am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4586 of 8457)
my sister has and kinda explains it to me. i really just need to be the lucky one i want to find it. hope the next clue is more detailed. thanks for the snow dome nathan Ben Hunting - 04:18am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4587 of 8457)
think that 777 is right at the end of morton st. DJ101DJ - 04:19am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4588 of 8457)
my sister has and kinda explains it to me. i really just need to be the lucky one i want to find it. hope the next clue is more detailed. thanks for the snow dome nathan Ben Hunting - 04:23am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4589 of 8457)
nathan where about are you, i'm going down to cp, i might be able to get you if your not to out of the way. DJ101DJ - 04:23am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4590 of 8457)
everyone must be in bed so i guess i will be going to bed myself talk to you all tomarrow or see ya at cp late tonight
(Deleted item originally posted by William on 04:24am Feb 2, 1998 CST)DJ101DJ - 04:24am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4592 of 8457)
everyone must be in bed so i guess i will be going to bed myself talk to you all tomarrow or see ya at cp late tonight Nathan Trivette - 04:27am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4593 of 8457)
im in mpls downtown..... DJ101DJ - 04:27am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4594 of 8457)
wikkiam very clever to now go to cp Becky Miller - 04:29am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4595 of 8457)
It's over some lucky person has found it. Just got back from Cherokee and a policeman was announcing it over his loud speaker. This really stinks considering I thought this would be my luck year. On the way home, I drove by the Pioneer Press building thinking maybe the policeman had some bad information but that dang sign that get's me every year said the medallion had been found and to look for explanations to the clues in the mornings paper. Well, off to bed now as depressed as ever. Nathan Trivette - 04:29am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4596 of 8457)
William... Did you read my feeble attempts at clue deciphering on the previous page???? Ben Hunting...Where are you goin there from? DJ101DJ - 04:29am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4597 of 8457)
wikkiam very clever to now go to cp DJ101DJ - 04:31am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4598 of 8457)
becky are you serious? Nathan Trivette - 04:33am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4599 of 8457)
she sounds serious..... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! RONALD S MYHRE - 04:46am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4600 of 8457)
anyone heading out to hunt
(Deleted item originally posted by William on 04:49am Feb 2, 1998 CST)Nathan Trivette - 04:54am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4602 of 8457)
Wouldnt they post it on here pretty soon???? Becky reported that at 4:30 and it would have been reported by then i would have figured actually cuz she wasnt using a laptop.....
(Deleted item originally posted by William on 04:58am Feb 2, 1998 CST)Julie - 05:24am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4604 of 8457)
My husband drove by the pioneer press at 5:00, the sign said the medallion has NOT been found. Why are all these people lying, saying they found the medallion? Do they think everyone will believe them, give up & go home so they have the whole park to themselves? Dave - 05:24am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4605 of 8457)
So which park is it in now 101dj101? Dave - 05:26am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4606 of 8457)
I just got back after a hellacious five hours! It has NOT been found yet! Bailey - 05:37am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4607 of 8457)
I just woke and read the last clue. What's the talk on what it means? Madallion man - 06:04am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4608 of 8457)
Where is everyone, come on start talking. Bailey - 06:07am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4609 of 8457)
m-man, evidently everyone went out looking, or are asleep Axel - 06:07am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4610 of 8457)
Bailey- chair leads a commitee and key unlocks a door-cherokee Madallion man - 06:13am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4611 of 8457)
I looks like it's in CP Madallion man - 06:16am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4612 of 8457)
We should look by a handecaped spot or arond it. Madallion man - 06:21am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4613 of 8457)
helo Axel - 06:24am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4614 of 8457)
Why handicaped? because of chair? kollin stevens - 06:27am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4615 of 8457)
Becky is lying Madallion man - 06:29am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4616 of 8457)
Yes Axel Axel - 06:33am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4617 of 8457)
Why do people come on here and make up stuff about the medallion being found? Like we aren't going to figure out that they are full of shit when the pp monitor doesn't post it here. Axel - 06:40am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4618 of 8457)
O.K. i'm bored, time to go back to the war zone it will be getting light soon. JB - 06:42am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4619 of 8457)
I've converted now from Mound to CP. Do all these landmarks need to be in view from the site of the medaliion? If so, from the back sledding area at CP you can't see a dome (capitol). JB - 06:47am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4620 of 8457)
Looks like somebody called a time out. JB - 06:53am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4621 of 8457)
Is Casey out there? Itsinmypocket now - 06:58am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4622 of 8457)
Hello all, can't stay long, but what is the consensus on today's clue? Does it have anything to do with Becky Montgomerie? Also, Jim Walsh's column is such a crock!!! JB - 06:59am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4623 of 8457)
As a future suggestion to Casey- can we rank the (un)credibility of those that misinform the hunters? Itsinmypocket now - 07:00am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4624 of 8457)
Bye, see you all later GOTTA GO TO SCHOOL!!!
(Deleted item originally posted by Dad&KAR C. on 07:40am Feb 2, 1998 CST)Mr. Know It All - 07:43am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4626 of 8457)
Nathan,
You missed one( #4575). The double division is the border of St. Paul and West St. Paul and the division of Ramsey and Dakota County (Annapolis St, Cherokee park)
(Deleted item originally posted by Dad&KAR C. on 07:47am Feb 2, 1998 CST)JB - 07:51am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4628 of 8457)
Why did you delete K---? Mr. Know It All - 08:16am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4629 of 8457)
Hey "up north george" are you there!! Matthew Hill - 08:33am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4630 of 8457)
What ever happened to the "Casey Park" idea????? Matthew Hill - 08:38am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4631 of 8457)
is no one here listening????? JB - 08:48am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4632 of 8457)
MH- seems that CaseyP went out with the pyramids BETTY COMISKEY - 08:51am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4633 of 8457)
HAS THE MEDALLION BEEN FOUND OR WHAT???? JB - 08:57am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4634 of 8457)
Front page on the ppwebsite says no-- I don't know the update time master j p - 09:01am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4635 of 8457)
I was the one who suggested casey yesterday as master j p.
it was where i hung out as a kid. i still think it is there Mattykid - 09:01am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4636 of 8457)
hey guys i definetely agree with jp the medallion is definetely at casey park i go there all the time!!! Mattykid - 09:04am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4637 of 8457)
has anybody here been looking at casey park yet??? Im getting ready to go now does any body wanna meet me there?? Mattykid - 09:05am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4638 of 8457)
hello??? BETTY COMISKEY - 09:05am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4639 of 8457)
WHERE IS CASEY PARK???? Allie Go - 09:07am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4640 of 8457)
Hi all...the 9th clue gave you the name of the park!!! SueBee - 09:08am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4641 of 8457)
You guys, today's clue all but spells out Cherokee. Why do you think Casey? The first line, "to unlock the door..." and the last line "a person that runs a committee." What do you unlock a door with? A KEY! And who runs a committee? A CHAIRperson. Put them together and you have CHAIR - KEY... CHEROKEE! Get it? Allie Go - 09:14am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4642 of 8457)
A friend sent me this poem from CA...thought you all might enjoy it.
Look under the tree.
Look over there under the tree, Cant imagine what you will see.
Are you up for wintry fun, Will you be the lucky one?
Are you looking near water and woods, Will you find the hidden goods?
Will you search in winters gloom, Where the kiddies choose to zoom?
These questions come to mind, When it is the Hunter I try to find.
She is out in the winters cold, Digging in a park I'm told.
No more time for Im's or mail, Obsessed she is she will NOT fail.
So dig and pick and pick and dig, Dont yank out hair, dont want no wig.
You must call and keep up with clues, while trying desparately to keep dry shoes.
Running noses and frozen toeses, Standing there in your thinking poses.
I hope you find this thing you seek, Your thoughts on where you must not leak.
Look here and there and high and low, Look towards the Pyramids, Damn NO NO NO.
Not there either I see, Look over yonder under that tree.
I hope you find it (Allie) mr.tomski - 09:19am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4643 of 8457)
when I left here last night around 11:45 we had C.P. all figured out.Where did casey park come from or did you really mean "case the park" WOW Deb Speidel - 09:20am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4644 of 8457)
what about the dough clue, baker park is right by
Annapolis and Dodd road, which is a "double" division line. The only thing i cant find is the 3 pyramids-- which are at cherokee park. SueBee - 09:26am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4645 of 8457)
If you look at past years, the clues aren't really THAT deep. They usually have only one meaning and the rest of the words are filler to help them rhyme. Last night's clue just pinpoints Cherokee, that's all. No golf stuff with the word fore, no deep meaning in traipsing. It just means it's at Cherokee. Allie Go - 09:28am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4646 of 8457)
The only thing is....the ninth clue named Cherokee. Catch 22 - 09:28am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4647 of 8457)
Deb--Baker park is not a park it is a playground. An early post stated that they are very clear when they say park that it is in park not a playground, rec area or anywhere else. It has to be at Chair-o-key! New Daddy - 09:29am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4648 of 8457)
Race, Pace, runs-- Is there a jogging path in the 'fore' or north part of CP?? mr.tomski - 09:30am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4649 of 8457)
ATTENTION ALL!!!!!! NEW INFO NOW REPORTS THAT THE MED. IS MOST DEFINETLY AT COMO OR PHALEN Catch 22 - 09:30am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4650 of 8457)
I think "fore" means that you will be in the lead to finding the med if you "unlock the door"--key and "think of the person who runs a committee"--chair. master j p - 09:31am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4651 of 8457)
everyone, look back at around #'s 3600 or before and look for my name. I explained everything about casey. Casey was also the name of a guy who was on the council or committee(whatever you want to call it) in 1974, the year it was also found in casey park. SueBee - 09:32am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4652 of 8457)
Mr. Tomski, boy I bet people are just scurrying right out the door to Como and Phalen on the merit of your message. I know I am... NOT! Those kind of posts are actually getting pretty old... Catch 22 - 09:33am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4653 of 8457)
mr.tomski--we've had enough crap with "reports" that the medallion is in another park! It is at Cherokee! Read the damn clues! mr.tomski - 09:34am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4654 of 8457)
so are the stupid rationale are keep hearing SueBee - 09:41am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4655 of 8457)
Catch22 - don't get your feathers in a bundle, Tomski is just being silly, we all know he's not serious and it's not worth getting jacked up about. He knows as well as we do that it's a Cherokee. For some reason some people still think it's funny to see people react to them trying to mislead them.. I have a sneaking suspicion that an awful lot of the people on this board are junior high kids. mr.tomski - 09:41am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4656 of 8457)
yo!! CATCH 22 i ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WE FIGURED OUT C.P. LAST NIGHT AT 11:45 WHERE WERE YOU? mr.tomski - 09:41am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4657 of 8457)
yo!! CATCH 22 i ALREADY MENTIONED THAT WE FIGURED OUT C.P. LAST NIGHT AT 11:45 WHERE WERE YOU? aT LEAST i DIDN'T CLAIM TO HAVE FOUND IT LIKE MR. FEEMAN . LIGHTEN UP ITS ONLY 3-4000 $. Catch 22 - 09:42am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4658 of 8457)
Where the medallion can be found in Cherokee--
Clue #3--"Rosebud"--sledding hill
Clue #4--"large object in view"--NSP tower, "demo of the mode"--dome
Clue #6--"plume of smoke"--NSP tower
Clue #8--"no need to wander to and fro"--back and forth like a swing set(not near swing set), "three pyramids"--bathrooms
With these in mind, you have to be near the bathrooms in a place that you can see the NSP tower and the Cathedral dome. There are not to many places at CP that you can see both. The dome is almost always blocked by a tree. My guess is that the "high ground" clue also refers to it being in a tree or off the ground, not in the snow! Catch 22 - 09:45am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4659 of 8457)
Sorry all! I was up all night studying for an exam that i then proceeded to fail this morning! So am just a little cranky. Would like to be out hunting but have class all afternoon. Just hope a water-cooler junkie finds it and not some sap that happens to wander upon it with nothing more than dumb-luck. mr.tomski - 09:46am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4660 of 8457)
tHATS WHERE i WAS LOKKING YESTERDAY. Are you the guy with the funny hat? New Daddy - 09:49am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4661 of 8457)
The fore of Cherokee - north east of highbridge, is relatively untouched. Is there a jogging path there??? I wounder if race, pace, and runs mean a jagging path. SueBee - 09:49am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4662 of 8457)
Somehow I think you're off track for wanting to be near the bathrooms. Read the pyramid clue again, more carefully. See what it says about where those pyramids are supposed to be... Just a hint. Catch 22 - 09:49am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4663 of 8457)
You mean the guy with the jester hat? mr.tomski - 09:50am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4664 of 8457)
The claim-jumper who found it last year was indeed one of those last minute SAPS!! mr.tomski - 09:51am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4665 of 8457)
ITS YOU SueBee - 09:51am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4666 of 8457)
Sorry about your test, Catch22. All nighters suck. I remember them well. I was half tempted to take the morning off and go hunting, but I came to work. Catch 22 - 09:52am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4667 of 8457)
It says "Instead you should look near a place--Where three pyramids rise over the snow" I take this to mean the roofs over the bathrooms and that near a place would mean that you should be near the bathrooms. Please expain what you think. Catch 22 - 09:53am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4668 of 8457)
No it's not me, but it is the only guy I saw that had a funny hat. It was around 7:30. jrnj - 09:53am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4669 of 8457)
In #4 of course lg. object smokestack & dome BUT FIRST!!! so what I did was block out the cathederal with the smokestack and in keeping it that way walked in the park with pyramids in view. Just a hunch but think of the last clue when it was at Como last... master j p - 09:54am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4670 of 8457)
what about casey people? mr.tomski - 09:54am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4671 of 8457)
I like your thinking catch 22- the rest of the clues are obvious from that point as well Human Boing - 09:55am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4672 of 8457)
"near" is a relative term. does the pyramid clue merely point to somewhere in cp? mr.tomski - 09:56am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4673 of 8457)
Sorry if sent anyone to como SueBee - 09:56am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4674 of 8457)
Hey, does anyone have any more ideas about clue #5? If Annapolis the "line of double division" from clue #7, would they be referring to it as the "city streets" in clue #5 too? What other city streets are they talking about? And is the place to play just the playground near the bathrooms at Cherokee? Catch 22 - 10:00am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4675 of 8457)
There is winona, wyoming and sidney (not sydney as in australia though) that all run into the park. And the dough clue could point to Baker St. SueBee - 10:00am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4676 of 8457)
I think in clue 8 they mean the medallion is near a spot where it looks like the bathroom roofs rise over the snow (not be near the pyramids).. but I think I'm giving away my favored digging spot too much! And I also think the large object in clue 4 is the dome itself. It's not two domes, it's one... A (as in one) large object in view.. then they make us figure out what that object is - a dome. I'm not telling WHICH dome I think it is.. SueBee - 10:01am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4677 of 8457)
Wyoming is a state, but I get it with Winona and Sydney. Hmmm Doc - 10:01am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4678 of 8457)
Hey catch 22!
High ground refers to the High Bridge. jrnj - 10:02am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4679 of 8457)
SueBee yes about 30 feet mr.tomski - 10:02am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4680 of 8457)
WHY NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Catch 22 - 10:02am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4681 of 8457)
Last night the guy with the jester hat was standing on the north side of the bathrooms. He was saying that looking north the large tree divides in two and the NSP tower is in one crook and the dome is in the other crook of the tree. I'm not sure if this could be double division but it could be. SueBee - 10:03am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4682 of 8457)
jrnj, what do you mean, 30 feet? I'm a bit confused.. Jennifer Keenan - 10:04am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4683 of 8457)
The dough definitely refers to Baker St. SueBee - 10:05am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4684 of 8457)
Catch, I bet that's a bit too deep. I truly believe double division is just Annapolis being the line between St. paul and WSP and Ramsey and Dakota counties. That's all. Catch 22 - 10:05am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4685 of 8457)
I know wyoming is a state (was born in Sundance) but there is also a Wyoming, MN. Catch 22 - 10:06am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4686 of 8457)
It is deep and I agree with annapolis being the division, but at this point who knows what to think. SueBee - 10:07am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4687 of 8457)
Catch, oops, I didn't know there was a Wyoming, MN. Hope I didn't insult your intelligence. I didn't mean to. :-) SueBee - 10:08am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4688 of 8457)
No doubt we're all trying to read all kinds of crazy things into the clues at this point. It's either going to be a fluke that someone comes across the exact spot or it'll go until the last clue when they all but mark the spot with an X! Catch 22 - 10:08am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4689 of 8457)
By no means! I didn't know there was a Wyoming, MN either, someone brought it in a post a long ways back. New Daddy - 10:10am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4690 of 8457)
could fore mean the front of CP?? the northeast part of the park has not ben dug up much. Is there a jogging path around CP?? jrnj - 10:11am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4691 of 8457)
SueBee You asked if the playground was close to the bathrooms, yes about 30 ft. Catch 22 - 10:13am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4692 of 8457)
Could "kids like to zoom" mean the slide on the playset? SueBee - 10:13am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4693 of 8457)
jrnj, oh, thanks for the clarification. I just wondered if the place to play reference might have any more meaning than just that playground. Probably not.
(Deleted item originally posted by Jen Keenan on 10:13am Feb 2, 1998 CST)SueBee - 10:16am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4695 of 8457)
I think the kids go zoom is the sledding hill that goes down toward the ball diamonds at Annapolis. Earlier in the clue it references Rosebud, which is the name of the sled in Citizen Kane. I think they go hand in hand. In the past, most clues only give away one thing. People are trying to cram two and three different messages into each clue. It doesn't usually work that way. mr.tomski - 10:18am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4696 of 8457)
agree with suebee Catch 22 - 10:18am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4697 of 8457)
Oh well, just another thought! Greg Sax - 10:21am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4698 of 8457)
The "kids like to zoom" being a slide is a theory that's been batted around. I think the slide at Cherokee has all but been dug off its bolts. The slide is well in view though. The only trouble I have with the sledding theory is the hill that I saw kids using on Saturday is on the other side of a grove of trees from the bathroom pyramids. However, I was over by the hill during the day and by the bathrooms at night. Does anyone know what the view of the sledding area is from different sightlines below the bathrooms? I couldn't tell in the dark. jrnj - 10:23am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4699 of 8457)
#8 Could be on or along side of snowpacked sidewalk(first 2 lines) Chris Palmer - 10:26am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4700 of 8457)
Greg:
Spent all day around the bathrooms yesterday afternoon. There doesn't seem to be anywhere that you can really view the sledding area from below the bathrooms. I think this is still ANYone's game until they narrow down the spot - the fun has only begun!!! JazzyBloom - 10:26am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4701 of 8457)
Did someone say that the Double division refers to Annapolis?? How so? New Daddy - 10:26am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4702 of 8457)
Does anybody out there know anything about the OTHER end of CP.
We have been looking by the sledding hill, bathroom, division, smoke strack , baker street for 5 days how about other parts of the park?? mr.tomski - 10:26am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4703 of 8457)
I keep reading into these clues every year - thinking just maybe whoever rights them will come up with something extremely ingenious to figuring them out ,but it never happens that way . its always one clue represents one object.one year I will rent a airport runway snow melting machine and melt the entire park jrnj - 10:27am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4704 of 8457)
Why hasnt anyone responded to my smokestack/dome hunch? JazzyBloom - 10:29am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4705 of 8457)
Did someone say that the Double division refers to Annapolis?? How so? mr.tomski - 10:29am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4706 of 8457)
jrnj we did ! we are all on are way to that spot SueBee - 10:29am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4707 of 8457)
Yes, there are places where the bathroom pyramids, the NSP smoke stack, and either the Cathedral or Capitol domes can be seen from the top of the sledding hill. The ground is solid ice about 2" thick - not exactly easy digging. Wish I was out there right now! New Daddy - 10:32am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4708 of 8457)
Gotta go. Good luck hunting. Somebody should check out the OTHER end of CP. mr.tomski - 10:33am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4709 of 8457)
SUEBEE I WILL BE DIGGING THERE FOR YOU JazzyBloom - 10:35am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4710 of 8457)
Did someone say that the Double division refers to Annapolis?? How so? mr.tomski - 10:43am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4711 of 8457)
My laptop seems to be working mr.tomski - 10:45am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4712 of 8457)
I wonder if anyone else is here on there laptop Two Sisters - 10:46am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4713 of 8457)
JazzyBloom - Annapolis divides cities (st. paul and w. st. paul and mendota heights) and counties(ramsey and dakota) JazzyBloom - 10:47am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4714 of 8457)
Did someone say that the Double division refers to Annapolis?? How so? Deb Speidel - 10:49am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4715 of 8457)
THE LARGE OBJECT IN VIEW COULD BE LANDMARK-- THE BREWERY!!! BUT WHAT THE SMOKESTACK AND YOU'LL BE BACK COULD THIS MEAN THAT WHEN YOU SEE THE PYRAMIDS ABOVE THE SNOW THE SMOKESTACK IS TO YOUR BACK???? JUST A THOUGHT !!! JazzyBloom - 10:49am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4716 of 8457)
That's interesting ... I was convinced that it was on the other end of the Park. The Baker Street and the split in the streets ... 2 streets with two way traffic carving out the park ... mr.tomski - 10:49am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4717 of 8457)
Please refer 4714 to 4713 Wright Winger - 10:50am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4718 of 8457)
99 YEAR OF THE COOLER
is it bad if i go to a army surplus store and dig for the medallion using a flame thrower? the only bad part i can think of if some small child gets in front of me and having to keep going back to super america to fill it up every 10 minutes. JazzyBloom - 10:50am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4719 of 8457)
Mr. Tom ... my sister is down there searching right now but she doesn't have laptop ... mr.tomski - 10:54am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4720 of 8457)
IS she cute JazzyBloom - 10:54am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4721 of 8457)
Mr. Tom ... my sister is down there searching right now but she doesn't have laptop ... mr.tomski - 10:54am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4722 of 8457)
IS she cute mr.tomski - 10:56am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4723 of 8457)
What is she wearing Greg Sax - 10:59am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4724 of 8457)
JazzyBloom: Annapolis is thought to be one of the "city streets" and it also serves as a dividing line twice -- once to divide St. Paul from Mendota Heights, once to divide St. Paul from Lillydale (it also divides parts of Cherokee Park itself). SueBee: The top of the sledding hill sounds like a nice idea as long as you stay away from the hill itself. I don't think the medallion would be hidden somewhere that would ruin the kids' fun. Another silly idea about the "dome" theory my friends and I came up with was the actual sign at Annapolis and Cherokee Heights Blvd. that welcomes you to St. Paul has the capitol dome on it. A stretch but we dug around there anyway (then we built a 7' snowman that was obliterated by the time we went back a few hours later -- dem darn kids!) JNorris - 11:00am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4725 of 8457)
Which park are people talking about? Fox - 11:01am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4726 of 8457)
I've been at CP 3 nights in a row. It's there but no way is anyony going to turn it up without more clues, the ice is too thick to cover enough ground. It needs to be pinpointed more, I think tonights clue will do this. mr.tomski - 11:01am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4727 of 8457)
I saw that snowman-snowperson? Tony - 11:03am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4728 of 8457)
Greg Sax: I doubt if kids knocked it down, probably hunters :) Fox - 11:07am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4729 of 8457)
It's at CP but the ice is so thick that until they pinpoint it exactly, I don't think it will turn up. I've been there 3 nights in a row and when I was digging I noticed that in about 30 minutes of digging I could only cover about 5 square feet. Jen Keenan - 11:07am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4730 of 8457)
Here is your clue to find her: the coat, her skin(not literally) and the truck are the opposite color of the snow (she's both cute and married). Greg Sax - 11:10am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4731 of 8457)
tomski: um, yeah, I guess it was more of a "snowperson." we got a little silly with it. all in good fun. Jen Keenan - 11:13am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4732 of 8457)
Here is your clue to find her: the coat, her skin(not literally) and the truck are the opposite color of the snow (she's both cute and married). Up North George - 11:14am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4733 of 8457)
Hey all, for anyone who is still wondering what park it's in, maybe you should just hang it up and try again next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jen Keenan - 11:14am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4734 of 8457)
Here is your clue to find her: the coat, her skin(not literally) and the truck are the opposite color of the snow (she's both cute and married). MedallionHuntMAN - 11:14am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4735 of 8457)
Greg Sax- Anapolis street also seperates Ramsey County from Dakota county. MedallionHuntMAN - 11:16am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4736 of 8457)
What does todays clue stand for? Up North George - 11:16am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4737 of 8457)
Mr Know it All you out there? Jen Keenan - 11:17am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4738 of 8457)
My apologies to ALL ... I do not understand why my messages post TWICE! :~( I'm not sending them twice. Up North George - 11:18am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4739 of 8457)
todays clue also tells you what park it's in!!!!!!!! Searcher - 11:20am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4740 of 8457)
Someone last night thought it might be in an Altoids container because it had a rose bush on it. I looked more closely. It's not a rose bush, it's a mint plant that has flowered. However, if the medallion is shaped like this year's button, it would be perfect. Rob Norris - 11:23am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4741 of 8457)
ok what do u need to unlock the door? a key. what does the head of a comittee do? he sits in a higher offeice or "Chair" and the O in Of is capatalized. put them together and what do u get? Chair-O-key MedallionHuntMAN - 11:25am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4742 of 8457)
Or could it be in a bread bag or some frozen bread? SueBee - 11:26am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4743 of 8457)
Jen, if you hit your refresh or reload button before anyone else has posted a message after you, it will re-publish your message. SueBee - 11:27am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4744 of 8457)
I kind of like the bread bag idea the best so far. We'll see.. SueBee - 11:28am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4745 of 8457)
They wouldn't put it in something metal - too easily found by a metal detector. But then, no one uses metal detectors anymore since the medallion has been made of plastic. Ya just never know what they're going to do with it. For god's sake, it's been in concrete before! Rob Norris - 11:28am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4746 of 8457)
Why do u people say a bread bad? just curious Up North George - 11:30am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4747 of 8457)
The medallion is round and made of clear plastic with a bluish tinge to it. Probably would not fit in altoids box and even if it could they wouldn't put it in there because the box is metal!Everybody screamed a few years back cause people went high tech and started using metal detectors!!1 Rob Norris - 11:33am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4748 of 8457)
ya but why do u say its in a bread bag Jen Keenan - 11:34am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4749 of 8457)
Thanks Sue ... Catch you all later ... Tina Blahut - 11:34am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4750 of 8457)
Rob norris I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!! YOU ARE SO SMART THANKS!!!!! GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!! Mark Schmitz - 11:34am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4751 of 8457)
It's needle in a haystack time . put on yer boots, grab yer favorite implyment of distruction, load up on antifreeze, and git diggin!
thanks for the info
i'm goin to the park, to swap lies face to face Searcher - 11:35am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4752 of 8457)
Metal--probably not attached to a Pace Picante cover then either. But I kind of like the Pace idea. Maybe just a frozen block of picante sauce :) Up North George - 11:35am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4753 of 8457)
This treasure huntin' thing is pretty cool!! SueBee - 11:36am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4754 of 8457)
Rob, clue 7 says "the medallion that promises lots of dough". We thought it might be in a bread bag or some kind of bakery item. Or maybe they're talking about Baker St. nearby. Mark Schmitz - 11:38am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4755 of 8457)
would the medalion fit in a Pillbury dough container? Up North George - 11:41am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4756 of 8457)
unlikely Rob Norris - 11:41am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4757 of 8457)
ya pretty smart for a 15 year old SueBee - 11:42am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4758 of 8457)
It might, Mark. Sounds like a possibility since they often put it in something white too. Deb Speidel - 11:45am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4759 of 8457)
so did everyone go looking now?? here i am stuck at work and im getting nothing more here!!! DID SOMEONE FIND IT YET???? oh and quit complaining about the ice, you gotta work for your loot :):)
my arms are ready to fall off-- i was at the top of the sliding hill for 3 hours yesterday and now im convinced that it is on the other end of the park-- i cant go out till tonite, and im giving away all my good ideas-- good luck all you monday warriors!!!!! Nathan Trivette - 11:46am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4760 of 8457)
The Medallion hasnt been found yet??? Some lady was on at 5 AM sayin dead serious it was found but i guess since people are still talkin it must be out there.... Mark Schmitz - 11:56am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4761 of 8457)
my favorite medalion camoflage was the Hostess Snowball package SueBee - 11:58am Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4762 of 8457)
Deb, I'm stuck at work too and not getting anything done either. I was giving away my good ideas too, but hey I think we all are at this point. Deb Speidel - 12:02pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4763 of 8457)
was talking to a fellow searcher yesterday and he said that the 3rd or 4th clue has always been ( in the past) what the medallion was packed in--it could be in a rose package--or something like that --i think that the dough refers to baker street... Deb Speidel - 12:04pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4764 of 8457)
suebee-- we should pull an all nighter tonite, what do you think-- also the water and woods, what about chippewa street??? water??? Nathan Trivette - 12:04pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4765 of 8457)
I think it may be on the bottom of one of those "snow globes" because in Citizen Kane thats what he dropped when he muttered "Rosebud" and all the reporters tried to figure out it's meaning just like we are doing right now..... Greg Sax - 12:07pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4766 of 8457)
Other great camouflage: White Castle hamburger box; as filling for Oreo cookie. Mean camouflage: taped between leaves; stuck inside of a real snowball; buried beneath ice; magnetized and stuck under a mailbox. SueBee: I'm with you on sharing good ideas. Those of us that have been lounging by the Cooler since early on would like to see a fellow Water Cooler pal find it...so long as they mention how the Cooler was a help to them. All agree that we don't want to see another "oh, I just stopped and looked for a few minutes and there it was" story? Deb Speidel - 12:07pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4767 of 8457)
what snow globes????? at cherokee park???? Deb Speidel - 12:09pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4768 of 8457)
hey greg-- speaking for myself and suebee (possibly) i dont want to be stuck here, i want to be out there, yesterday was a blast!!!!! Troy300 - 12:13pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4769 of 8457)
What park? Mark Schmitz - 12:14pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4770 of 8457)
there are two types of tresure FINDERS. Unemployed or on their lunch break. I'm off to lunch at the park SueBee - 12:14pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4771 of 8457)
You bet, Deb. I'm tempted to take part of the afternoon off, but don't know if I will. Nathan - a snow globe is a good possibility. I kind of like that. However, if you really look at past years, what the medallion is in is often not made known until clues 9 or 10 too. Yes, last year it was clue 3, but it hasn't always been that way. Golddigger - 12:15pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4772 of 8457)
Hey! If you need to check out where the last 10 years medallion locations and finder's names are check out our site at www.metrosupersaver.com! Troy300 - 12:15pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4773 of 8457)
What park? Michael Kasal - 12:15pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4774 of 8457)
I'm at work too...bummer drag...wish I was a diggin in the white fluffy stuff. Nathan Trivette - 12:17pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4775 of 8457)
u know the little globes that you shake up with the scene in it and the snow looks like its falling....???? Michael Kasal - 12:18pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4776 of 8457)
Does anyone have a clue as to what the new clue means? Troy300 - 12:18pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4777 of 8457)
What about them Nathan? Michael Kasal - 12:18pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4778 of 8457)
Does anyone have a clue as to what the new clue means? Michael Kasal - 12:19pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4779 of 8457)
sorry about the stutter... Deb Speidel - 12:19pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4780 of 8457)
suebee, i wish i could do that -- im an hour away!!!!! oh well, i only live 3 blocks away---HEY PARTY AT DEBS HOUSE!!!!! Troy300 - 12:19pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4781 of 8457)
Chairman of a committee Michael Kasal - 12:21pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4782 of 8457)
sorry about the stutter... Michael Kasal - 12:22pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4783 of 8457)
that's what I thought...any ideas on that? Searcher - 12:22pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4784 of 8457)
Unlock door = key
Head of committee = chair
Answer = Chair-o-key (Cherokee Park) Deb Speidel - 12:23pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4785 of 8457)
troy300-- i think you need to go back about 1000 messages and it will tell you what park.........:):) Greg Sax - 12:25pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4786 of 8457)
Deb & SueBee: I wish I could be back at Cherokee as well, but I'm afraid I had to leave the hometown for my current roost in Milwaukee. Golddigger: It's nice to see the effort at metrosupersaver.com but there are several mistakes there. For a more proper list (with clues) check www.pioneerplanet.com/archive/wintercarnival/hunt.htm. But that one's not perfect either -- Kurt Condie found it at Cherokee the last time it was there. It was the second time he found the medallion. Considering that Cherokee is where it's at this year, you think they would've gotten it right! Nathan Trivette - 12:26pm Feb 2, 1998 CST (#4787 of 8457)
Any1 wanna go huntin at 5ish tonite???? 
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