The Pioneer Press medallion has been found. Details are at our Winter Carnival page.
The hunt's over, but the discussion rages on ...
Me Dal Leon Hunter - 07:04am Jan 24, 1998 CST (#1 of 8457)
Me, Dal Leon Hunter -- you, "snow drifters". Bring on the clues;
let's rock. 
Sloop John B - 11:44am Jan 24, 1998 CST (#2 of 8457)
The Oracle of Delphi
I say Dennis Green's boxer shorts....next to the two large orbs of brass. Ian - 12:40pm Jan 24, 1998 CST (#3 of 8457)
READ MESSAGE 8268
We're ready for another great hunt !! Huntress - 07:55am Jan 25, 1998 CST (#4 of 8457)
It's that wonderful time of year...the reason for putting up with the season...The big Hunt! Huntress - 11:11am Jan 25, 1998 CST (#5 of 8457)
Hey there ABETRED, are you ready!!!???? Let's do It! Me Dal Leon Hunter - 11:50am Jan 25, 1998 CST (#6 of 8457)
Well, the clues haven't gotten too far yet and I'm already confused with the
Huntress's message
Huntress 1/25/98 12:11pm
which says
ABETRED. I'm looking in everyone of my dictionaries for
ABETRED . K Rasmussen - 02:03pm Jan 25, 1998 CST (#7 of 8457)
Lookout everyone for the famous 4 ladies with the weird hats. Were going to be out there somewhere! We'll be the queens of the snow this year, you just wait! We've got our headlamps, shovels and muscle ointment ready. Hey park guy, see ya at the line up downtown. Good luck to all. Ready for the midnight run. No sleep for us ! Wright Winger - 04:38pm Jan 25, 1998 CST (#8 of 8457)
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Through ice and snow I plan to go to find medallion thee
I must leave now and gather my group of almost three. B.J. Mack - 04:39pm Jan 25, 1998 CST (#9 of 8457)
Any early guesses on where the medallion is hidden?
It hasn't been at Phalen Park since 1983. And it hasn't been at Kellogg Park since 1985. Those are two large St. Paul parks that are at the top of my list.
Any thoughts on what it'll be hidden in? Last year it was in a Curad box, in a Skoal tin in 1996 (how un-P.C.!). I think it'll be in something related to our new hockey team, maybe in a plastic puck you can open up. Either that or in an Altoids tin.
See you out there! cats meow - 10:58pm Jan 25, 1998 CST (#10 of 8457)
present and accounted for Terry Yorkshire - 12:03am Jan 26, 1998 CST (#11 of 8457)
Anybody have any thoughts on Battle Creek park? High ground, woods, water, eh? Good luck all. Cya out there. Chris Swenke - 07:20am Jan 26, 1998 CST (#12 of 8457)
Well another year and another hunt. One wish has already come true during the Super Bowl, I hope the second will come true in the following days. I will see you all out there!
Best of Luck!
mogo Pat Pfundstein - 11:05am Jan 26, 1998 CST (#13 of 8457)
Hey, how about Newell Park. It has the woods, and a lake across the street. And I've heard a lot of people get high there. By the way, the lake across the street is in the county compost heap. Does that count as a park, because there are at least three or four trees which technically could make them a woods. I'll be there digging. hector smith - 11:26am Jan 26, 1998 CST (#14 of 8457)
Don't waste time digging in the wrong place! I see the park from where I sit. Look for me at the park and in the late night lines. I'll have my book "St.Paul Parks- A Treasure Hunter's Guide" available to assist you in your quest. Mr. Know It All - 11:41am Jan 26, 1998 CST (#15 of 8457)
Here I am!!!!!! I told you where it was last year, on tuesday am. I'm here to get you to the place early again! When your out hunting yell out once in awhile " hey Mr. Know It All" jane Morehouse - 12:23pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#16 of 8457)
up up and away we go again ..to mounds park, high above the city . Can you get any higher than that? Mr. Know It All - 12:26pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#17 of 8457)
Yes that's possible but...........! you could be in Highland Pk, Cherokee Pk, Battle Creek, they all have the same view!!!!!!!!!!! Mr. Know It All - 12:54pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#18 of 8457)
Pat , Pat, Pat. That's why you can't find it your too far off the ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Deleted item originally posted by GORDEEN LAROUE on 01:36pm Jan 26, 1998 CST)snow bunnies - 01:36pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#20 of 8457)
Hey Mr. Know it All,
Do you really think that they would pick the same park (Battle Creek 95), (Cherokee Park 92), (Highland Park 94).
Our instincts are Phalen Park, Mounds Park, or Kellogg Park is a good possibililty. GORDEEN LAROUE - 01:44pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#21 of 8457)
I THINK YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK--- PHALEN PARK IS MY GUESS AS OF NOW !!! Greg Sax - 02:34pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#22 of 8457)
It's good to see some familiar names from last year, particularly "Mr. Know it All." I'm stuck in Milwaukee again this year so I'll have to use my mental map of the park system and extensive list of past hunt information to be of any use. Mounds and Cherokee are the highest grounds I can think of. I'm prone to Cherokee for the fact that the High Bridge is nearby. But I'm also stuck on the use of the word "hidden" in the 2nd clue. Historically, it's the little words that you take for granted that are most important, so I'm thinking Hidden Falls is a possibility. And I wouldn't try to figure out how long it's been since it was at a given park. Last year's Como Park hiding place threw out all of our pattern-searching efforts. Good luck to all! Beavis - 02:41pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#23 of 8457)
My ESPN powers tell me its at mounds park in a tomato soup can (cambells)
under a lot of snow next to the beakon. n.k.o.b. - 03:28pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#24 of 8457)
I say the medallion will be found in 8 clues, no mas! This year, its a thinking diggers game. CK1 - 04:41pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#25 of 8457)
Question for you experienced diggers: When do you think the Medallion was hidden? We didn't have much snow until recently...So was it hidden with little snow in mind three weeks ago or was it hidden this past Saturday? CK1 - 04:46pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#26 of 8457)
PS -- I went and dug all around the Frog pond at Como. You know, just for the hell of it. I knew it wouldn't be there, but I figured somebody had to do it sooner or later. Wright Winger - 06:29pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#27 of 8457)
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The frog pond uh? well if it's the treasure ye seek
than come follow me and catch a peek. Arrrgh!
When looking for the medalion please pay tribute to the Gods,
and they will be good, for looking for the medalion by the water and wood. Lynda Zurn - 07:30pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#28 of 8457)
How can I get a list of all the past treasure locations? Mary Cocherell - 07:36pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#29 of 8457)
Schmitty, Hey! We'll have the motor home ready to go! Probably Phalen! BG Call and we'll discuss. Wright Winger - 07:39pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#30 of 8457)
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There was a list at winter-carnival.com but because of confusion when you try to access the medalion there it sends you hear. But im trying to find a different one too. The highest elevation in the city is at Hill-Crest Golf Course and its no't there,
so Cherokee park hunters beware! D.L. - 08:30pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#31 of 8457)
HAS ANYONE BEEN ABLE TO ACCESS THE CLUES ON THE CARNIVAL PAGE? WANT TO SAVE TRIP TO DOWNTOWN !! Big Red - 08:45pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#32 of 8457)
"Hey, Mr. Know It All 1/26/98 12:41pm!" Have you ever found the famed medallion? B.J. Mack - 08:57pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#33 of 8457)
Is there anything specific in these first two clues that's sending people to Phalen...or are you just headed there on a gut feeling, because it hasn't been there since '83?
The "hidden" in today's clue has got me thinking about Hidden Falls. Of course, it was just there in '93 (in the diaper). Wright Winger - 09:29pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#34 of 8457)
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I dont know about anyone else but I havent been able to get anything about the medalion from the winter carnival page since last Friday. I personally dont see anything linking the medalion to Phalen, but its always where people want to go look, for no reason other than it hasnt been there since 83', and I think the "hidden goods" line is too obvious for hidden falls. I beleave its a park near downtown on one of the bluffs, but I think that every year, it costed me many a tear for the last nine year. (in reference to not ever finding it) KRasmussen - 10:04pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#35 of 8457)
hey Zurn, go to the library down town. They have everything you'll need. Of course you'll have to do a little research. Hey L R yes you can access the clues on line it's there now ! Try tonight. See ya ! Big daddy pappa - 10:09pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#36 of 8457)
yo yo yo, this is big daddy pappa. i'm in da house. i think the shiny thing is hidin in old can of coca-cola. it's a dead giveaway in the first clue. if you gots any ideas of what's goin on youz gunna no its in a coke can. piece out to all my homies. word to your mother g funk Wright Winger - 10:41pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#37 of 8457)
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Um KRasmussen, where do you find the past clues online? and do they have park history too? and Big daddy pappa, how doz ye figure it be in de can o coke? they couldnt get it in there anyhow, it wouldnt fit.Its in a shoe or Minnesota Wild related apparal. VINYLcollector - 11:16pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#38 of 8457)
http://members.aol.com/VINYLagain/Medallion.html
Keep warm, keep happy, and good luck. (I REALLY hate saying that.) Wright Winger - 11:40pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#39 of 8457)
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Does cherokee or mounds have any place for sledding? what could it possible be? the last time I know of them mention sledding was Battle Creek 95' Although the clue writter is known for making long, long streches to through people like us off. m mosiman - 11:48pm Jan 26, 1998 CST (#40 of 8457)
can it be highland park?
(Deleted item originally posted by The Clue Master on 12:00am Jan 27, 1998 CST)Dave VanHorn - 12:13am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#42 of 8457)
Looks like I'm screwed for treasure hunting this year, no car for
now. I have no choice but to try and help those posting find it.
Here we go. Cross Off Highland, Como, Harriet Island, Battle Creek.
It was in Cherokee Park back in 1992, they've never been that close
together and that includes this year. Remember, if thereis no scenery it is OUT! Not necessarily does the whole park have to be on high ground, possibly just a part of it (maybe where the treasure is). So Far, with not much thinking - in Mounds Park seems like a favorite, if they stay with the recent trend of hiding in big parks, that might rule out a park like Linwood Park, but ya never know for. Clue 2 mentions water, remember could be any kind of water, river, lake, water utility building, watertower, who knows, don't be closed minded about that. Woods more than likely means actual "woods", but count on that. Continue Later, Maybe it will finally be in Phalen again. KRasmussen - 12:33am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#43 of 8457)
okay ready all you computer hunters. should I make it in clue form or just tell you how to find the clues? 1 get to pioneer planet front page.
2. go towards bottom of page it has a picture of the button on it stating Everything you wanted to know about the medallion. 3. click on to the icon. Yea you have solved the clues. See you all out there. Besides it's not so cold out to go downtown and get the paper at 11:00. See you when it gets busy and remember the paper cost 35 cents now. Greg Sax - 01:23am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#44 of 8457)
I want the clues to mean more than they do (for example: "Rosebud" = a street named Wells or Kane; the word "hidden" = Hidden Falls) but I think all we're getting beyond the normal park and water clues is that the medallion is at the top of a sledding hill. Maybe "Rosebud" could double for a summertime flowerbed, but I doubt they'd lead the "diggers" to something they could destroy. A high-ground park like Cherokee or Mounds is starting to lose luster with the 3rd clue. Phalen may be worth a snoop simply because it's been so long since they put it there. Chris Swenke - 07:15am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#45 of 8457)
I would have to agree with Greg Sax about the difficulty of the
clues, but on the other hand you don't see me with the medallion.
I'm leaning toward Highland Park for a couple of reasons that I will
defulge to any interested. (just write)
I was planning on checking tommorrow night but todays clue seems to
point me in the same direction I was going on clue two, so I will be
seeing you all tonight.
It doesn't seem the same when it's above zero but I'll bear it. Mr. Know It All - 08:03am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#46 of 8457)
Woops! I was in a coma yesterday!!!!!!! I completely mentally blocked out hidden falls, another high place.........Hey Mr. Sax how the hell are ya! Good to have you back Gregie!!!!!!!!! This clue (#3) is telling you that it is attached to a rosebud (flower maybe, some type of a container with that word on it " maybe". Clue (#2) In the neighborhood are water and woods. Could be a golf course, ( woods, the club type) water (the hazard type). Just giving you something to chew on while i'm tied down to my desk. Yes, kids like to zoom
(sliding). ( Highland Park is an early guess.) Mead - 08:09am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#47 of 8457)
Highland Park? Look at the clues.. it has to be in Roseville near the water tower someplace.. I can almost see it from here!!!! Mr. Know It All - 08:15am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#48 of 8457)
Mead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Which part of the first clue don't you understand!!!! n.k.o.b. - 08:51am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#49 of 8457)
Sledding at Phalen? Maybe from a rope behind your dad's car. Is that overlook area in Dayton's Bluff considered a park? Little kids will hate us if we dig up all their hills. Mr. Know It All - 08:53am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#50 of 8457)
Yes but we will hate ourselves if we don't!!!!!!!!!! CK1 - 09:08am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#51 of 8457)
Hey, n.k.o.b., What do you say we do a "Fake Find" tonight at Phalen? Pat Pfundstein - 09:12am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#52 of 8457)
You know there are some great, if small, hills in Newell Park. Plus, Rosebud is an obvious reference to the rec center manager there, whose middle name is Rose. Geez, Mead, dare I say you should get a clue? See you all at Newell! Mr. Know It All - 09:19am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#53 of 8457)
Hey has anyone heard from JUST ME!!!! She was on here last year and had some great Ideas. (complex thinker) Wright Winger - 10:27am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#54 of 8457)
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Phalen has sledding, nice thinking about water and wood being a golf course, but would they golf us 2 years in a row? Maybe the place where kids like to zoom is a reference other than sledding? like to get high. I know some gets who love to drive very fast down water street cuz they can get air on some big bump somewhere. I do think the first line of clue 3 is a reerence to an outdoor garden, but isnt there a Rose street somewhere? Mr. Know It All - 10:30am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#55 of 8457)
Rose street is 1 block south of Maryland! Wright Winger - 10:45am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#56 of 8457)
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By looking at a on-line map I see Rose street goes by Phalen and ends up near Como, but Loeb Lake park is somewhere in between, does anyone know anything about Loeb? and how does clue #3 fit Mounds, I think it dosnt. Alex Moy - 11:00am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#57 of 8457)
Rose ave. also goes into Como Sr. High, where I know they do plenty of "bud." I would say either Como, Marydale park (the real name for Leob Lake park), or the high school. From a map I have, it looks like Marydale isn't very flat. Mr. Know It All - 11:05am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#58 of 8457)
You came to the right person, the wealth of knowledge. Loeb Lake as it's formerly known as (New Name Mary-Dale Park). This is on Maryland Ave. & Dale St. Hence the name. The Rosebud clue is generally the clue ( #3) where he tells you what it's going to be found in or attached to. Glued to a plastic rosebud, a container with a rosebud on the top etc. (that is why you could search in mounds park..........But try Highland the clues make more sense. cold toes2 - 11:17am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#59 of 8457)
maybe rose refers to a type of rose-medallion,[could give pleasure] should we be concentrating on 'a place where kids like to zoom'. see you all soon snow bunnies - 11:23am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#60 of 8457)
Oh that dreaded Como Park issue. It was hidden there last year, across the street from the Conservatory on Eastbrook. I had heard that there is construction going on over there as of now. When I look at the park book, there is a monument in Como Park off on Midway Parkway the Clarence Curran Hodgson Field Monument "Larry Ho" with the inscription "He left the roses here". Could it be, again???
Give some feedback on this idea. My gut instincts are still telling me Mounds Park or Phalen and roses in the clue might mean something that it is buried in. Usually Clue 2 to 3 tells us what they put that little needle-in-haystack in. CK1 - 11:26am Jan 27, 1998 CST (#61 of 8457)
Hey, Greg Sax, It's good to hear that I'm not the only one who looks for hidden (more clever) meanings in the clues -- I keep wanting to give the clue-giver more credit than I should. Greg Sax - 12:16pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#62 of 8457)
Hooking up Rose to Marydale/Loeb is a neat idea but there isn't much "scenery all around." I grew up just 2 blocks away so I'm pretty familiar with the territory. There's only a couple of possible sledding locations, too, and one of them brings you up near a railroad track (too dangerous). It hasn't been at Marydale since 1972...so maybe. As for the Rose connection to Newell - too obscure. I don't think they would alienate potential diggers with that. Remember: by clue #3 last year all we had was a northern park, a speed limit, and the visibility of Bandana Square (if you were really clever). Clue #4 gave us "Cuomo." Tonight's clue should do the trick. Clara Just - 12:18pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#63 of 8457)
Has anyone thought of zoom as a possible meaning of a go-cart
track? How about Mccarrons, it's on the border of roseville.
Any thoughts? Mr. Know It All - 12:57pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#64 of 8457)
Hey Greg Sax, Did you have a brother named Paul? Or was that a different family. I grew up by St. Bernard's Dan Reinhardt - 01:05pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#65 of 8457)
Forget Marydale.. There is nothing there. Another thing to consider is that Rose also ends at;Edgewater park/Beaver Lake,Phalen,Como Park,
and several playgrounds. There is a street at mounds that is named Thorn@Eral and ends at Mounds. If you however find your kid sledding there they will be at the bottom of the cliff,and a little dead. I don't now about that aspect.
Dan R.
St.Paul Parks and Rec. NO THEY DON'T TELL ME WHERE IT IS! SLEEPLESS GIMPER - 01:06pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#66 of 8457)
ANYONE THOUGHT OF THE ROSEVILLE OVAL? HOW ABOUT THORNE STREET IN MOUNDS PARK? WHAT ABOUT IT BEING IN A BALL IN REGUARDS TO PETE ROSE! R C - 01:10pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#67 of 8457)
I'm thinking Hidden Falls park. There's definite scenery & high ground. Obvious water & woods (maybe too obvious). Is there any sledding there? Or, as someone already mentioned, the word "zoom" could mean kids getting drunk or high - I know kids like to do that there. (But, it would be kind of tacky putting that in a clue though). Mr. Know It All - 01:10pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#68 of 8457)
You can read too much into the clues! Careful!!
(Deleted item originally posted by SLEEPLESS GIMPER on 01:20pm Jan 27, 1998 CST)snow bunnies - 01:27pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#70 of 8457)
On lunch time we took a visual view at Mounds Park. There is activity out there. There have been diggers at the outlook, but no slidding area for the kids. There is a small area west of the beacon where there was some sliding activity. We are still stumped on the clue word "Rosebud". I think this is trying to tell us a person, name, or thing, a noun. Why is the word in parantheses and capitalized? Also the word zoom on our spell checker gives the meaning "swiftly (airplane).Well,we need another CLUE!!!! Great whether for a hunt today. Leah Gunter - 01:30pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#71 of 8457)
Rosebud- is refeering to the movie Citizen Cane - The rosebud in the movie is Orson Wells sled! Zoom- means sliding -
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(Deleted item originally posted by Leah Gunter on 01:31pm Jan 27, 1998 CST)pluto69 - 01:42pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#74 of 8457)
im thinking mounds park "rosebud" refeering to the sled in the movie orson wells maybe close to sleding hill buuuuuuutttttttttt not there !!!!!!!!!!! steve worthma - 01:52pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#75 of 8457)
Very active minds out there! Its only day three though, so don't start obsessing. Take closer looks at the Treasure Hunter's Guide and perhaps you'll figure it out before clue #5. Feel free to say hi to me at the park this year. You'll find me near my "Treasure Maps" display. Happy hunting, Steve Worthman/Hunter's Press. n.k.o.b. - 02:12pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#76 of 8457)
just got back from nearby Phalen and I'd have to say there ain't no sledd'en thar. These guys who write the clues never get too deep. Speaking of which, with only 8 inches on the ground look for me with my Toro. CK1 - 02:15pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#77 of 8457)
Hey, Steve- At which park will you be digging? And tell us more about "The Guide..." I hear a few of the past winners have used it. Is that true? CK1 - 02:18pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#78 of 8457)
Hey...Where is Mounds Park?
(Deleted item originally posted by Matthew Ernst on 02:28pm Jan 27, 1998 CST)Snowball2 - 02:34pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#80 of 8457)
Does anyone remember a bandshell in a Roseville Park? There was a large stone-enlay of a rose in front of this bandshell. Also there was a huge playgound/area close to the bandshell in the park. (Aplace where kids go zoom?) R C - 02:56pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#81 of 8457)
good idea - except the first clue says St. Paul. Greg Sax - 04:03pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#82 of 8457)
To All: this ain't a flame, but please think about following the thread of our conversation before posting. Many good thoughts lie in past posts; To CK1: As I recall, Steve's guide contains some nice drawings of park layouts that street maps don't give you - could be helpful for those "near 3 trees" kinds of clues; To Mr. Know It All: No brothers but lots of friends in the Rice Street area; give me an age group and I can drop some names; Speaking of Rice Street: McCarron's is unlikely as it's in Roseville. Same goes for all places that don't actually end in "Park." Aside from 1989, the year it was at the Capitol Grounds, it hasn't been anywhere other than at an official public "Park" since 1969. It has never been at a recreation center like Oxford or North Dale so I wouldn't even consider looking at a place like that. People do every year anyway!
(Deleted item originally posted by n.k.o.b. on 04:32pm Jan 27, 1998 CST)CK1 - 04:35pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#84 of 8457)
Let's narrow down the park:
Clue # 2: Does "High Ground" mean Highland? Wright Winger - 04:36pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#85 of 8457)
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Does anyone know of any small little unknown parks that might fit? cuz its always the same parks over and over. Steve Tylor - 04:45pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#86 of 8457)
Could high ground be refering to a street name as in "summit" summit ave. MMMM.......There is a little known park right off of summit ave.
I just might have to grab my shovel! Tally Ho! Alex Moy - 04:51pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#87 of 8457)
I think that Thorn street is a good guess. Especially since it runs through Indian Mounds Park. n.k.o.b. - 04:51pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#88 of 8457)
Does anyone know if there is Sledding/swings/kids-go-zoom areas at Hidden Falls? Highland Park fits all of our current tidbits to date as well. jane Morehouse - 06:51pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#89 of 8457)
I was thinking mounds park my self, as everything so far is ther. the zooming could be the binokulars,not spelled right but the meaning is there. you can zoom in on any thing and kids love them. Joe Medallion - 06:54pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#90 of 8457)
You're all village idiots! I know where it is already. The third clue gave it away. The clue "Rosebud' has nothing to do with Citizen Cain. Think people, THINK!
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Where do I think it is? You think I'm gonna tell you jack-asses? I know where it is, but I ain't telling you or any other slack-jawed yokel that asks. Joe Medallion - 07:04pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#96 of 8457)
I know! I know! It's in a St. Paul park! jane Morehouse - 07:04pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#97 of 8457)
you forgot the quotations around crap!
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Anyone in their right mind would guess that the medallion's not at Como Park or Harriet Island! Joe Medallion - 07:09pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#100 of 8457)
T! Medallion Fever - 07:12pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#101 of 8457)
I'd say I'm going to wait until tonights clue, but I think Mounds Park is a good starting point. No where to park the RV at Mounds though. That "Rosebud" idea of the movie is good. Right now it fits pretty well. Although we may be reading too much into it right now. jane Morehouse - 07:17pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#102 of 8457)
the only other rosebud i know is the rosebud indian reservation, which would leave out cherokee park because they the rosebud were sioux back to mounds park.and that is what is buried in the mounds is the sioux Medallion Fever - 07:22pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#103 of 8457)
When was the last time it was at Mounds? '80 something? I don't have my stuff right here with me. I do think Mounds would be a good place. It was just in Cherokee not too long ago. Wright Winger - 07:32pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#104 of 8457)
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87' was the last time it was at mounds. Whats this park STEVE TYLER is talking about, but I still say Cherokee, why dont any psychics write in. I bet they'd know.
(Deleted item originally posted by Jaynee Colbeth on 07:40pm Jan 27, 1998 CST)Black Widow - 07:46pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#106 of 8457)
Anyone else have any ideas on the "rosebud" being Ritche "Rosebud" Petre from the DVD Show?
Black Widow BeeyoB - 08:19pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#107 of 8457)
Hey Joe. I'm thinking that the "k12" in your email, along with your writing talent suggests you may be late for study hall. Get lost.....Everyone else, I'm heading to Mounds. What time is the clue posted online? No more advantage for us cybersearchers? Luck. Pat Pfundstein - 09:29pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#108 of 8457)
Wright Wringer, the small park you are looking for is Newell Park. The medallion is most definitely there, and I don't mind saying so because a) nobody will believe me, and b) I would not mind the company of discerning minds like mine. Greg Sax, I beg to differ with you, this is the exact time for people to read too much into the clues, because it is too soon for loads like me to dig. By the way, last year's third clue did more than point a general direction; it not only pointed to Bandana Square, but to the fact that the prize was wrapped in a bandana. Finally, anyone who doesn't think that 'Rosebud' refers to a sled (at least in its primary meaning) should report to the Frog Pond right now and start digging. Actually, my wife saw people digging last year in St. Paul Park, and I think that is even more pathetic than the last day diggers in the Frog Pond. See ya out there (I'm the goofy looking guy.
(Deleted item originally posted by mark lazarchic on 09:29pm Jan 27, 1998 CST)Wright Winger - 09:39pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#110 of 8457)
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Thank you Pat Pfundstein for the info. If I get out there I'll be looking for ya. Why are people always saying its at phalen, and its never there! Although now that I said that, the paper will put it there just to humilate me. Oh and what do ya'll think is the better tool, I beleve in this order are the best tools: ice scraper, hoe, shovel, buddys bare hands and your bare hands. Ian - 09:47pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#111 of 8457)
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Never got to the bare hands yet. Broke all my tools last year, tho. Big daddy pappa - 10:37pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#112 of 8457)
yo, dis is big daddy again. i gots me a new ideas. the liddle coin can't be in a coke can cause da can is to small. now if i was da coin i would hide meself in a in a cd case. expecially Biggy Small's cd case cause he is da pimp daddy of them all. look for me down town, i be gettin da paper tomorrow nite. so i hope ta see you all there. Wayne Smestad - 10:56pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#113 of 8457)
What do you think of when you see a rose bud. violator - 11:14pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#114 of 8457)
I think i'll jut sell hot chocolate at the digging site this year, gotta be able to make at least a couple grand doing that. Dave VanHorn - 11:29pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#115 of 8457)
Mother Lode...Eh? Hmmmmmm..... Gee let me think. Dave VanHorn - 11:33pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#116 of 8457)
Sounds like something along the mississippi "lode" a ditch that guides or leads water into a river or sewer, but we should maybe never read too much into something. :) charlie w - 11:46pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#117 of 8457)
Did anyone else notice that Clue #4 discusses cracking a code and then states "here's a DEMO of the MODE to pursue" DEMO and MODE have the same letters. Allen Jaques - 11:46pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#118 of 8457)
people don't you know the the 3rd clue starts to reveal what the medallion is hidden in, ex cookie wrapper, a newspaper, a bandad box , last year. n.k.o.b. - 11:46pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#119 of 8457)
Pat P, you are a luminary! Stop with da Frog pond. Yer killing me. See you at Newell, for it holds the jewel. violator - 11:49pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#120 of 8457)
Charlie I think your on to something there! Dave VanHorn - 11:52pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#121 of 8457)
I see a pattern charlie is right, trying to get down now! :) cold toes2 - 11:54pm Jan 27, 1998 CST (#122 of 8457)
yes i did note demo and lode. but what do we unscamble? Casey Trauer - 12:00am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#123 of 8457)
PioneerPlanet night editor/Water Cooler moderator
Just in case anybody is still having troubles finding the clues, you can take the link near the top of the page that says "Winter Carnival page." But of course, being keen and scrutinizing treasure hunters, you already knew that! ;)
I hope you all are enjoying this year's hunt.
Casey Trauer
Planet night editor
Greg Sax - 12:01am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#124 of 8457)
Oh, how I wish I wasn't stuck in Milwaukee right now because Clue No. 4 is a good one. Let's try this...usually when the clue brings up a code it's a word game; right after we're given the code clue, we get the words "demo" and "mode;" played a different way this could be "dome." Now it's not customary to bring anything Minneapolis into the game, but the code makes sense. All I have is a map to work with, but I'm going back to Clue No. 2 and the use of the word "hidden" because Hidden Falls may have strong sightlines at high ground. I know you can see the tall buildings from Mounds, but I don't know about the Metrodome. Pat Pfundstein: Newell is a tangle of a park so if I'm right about the dome, I'd be surprised if you can see it from there. I really have to get some of my St. Paul cronies to be my eyes for me. I'm blind out here in the land of beer. vince w herntier - 12:11am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#125 of 8457)
I think the word we want to apply the "demo/mode" code to is the word "code" itself which would give us deco as in art deco. The large object to help guide us is no doubt art deco. Dave VanHorn - 12:11am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#126 of 8457)
I've got a better one for you, now don't jump into your car yet, but the very last time it was hidden in mounds park there was a clue that specifically suggested the dome of the cathedral, makes sense again.
Kids zooming could mean the freeway (I94 below the park) and lode could easily refer to the mississippi, well good luck all keep thinking!
(Deleted item originally posted by barb handlin on 12:17am Jan 28, 1998 CST)Dave VanHorn - 12:19am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#128 of 8457)
Demo/Mode > Dome. You can easily see the dome of the cathederal from the park itself. The beginning of the clue could mean the dome is the large object or there could be another large object either in the park or out of it that points (guide you) in the direction or lines you up with the Medallion...Who Knows for sure probably that night editor, Casey. :) Greg Sax - 12:26am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#129 of 8457)
Nice going, Dave! As a deep-down St. Paulite I don't know why my first instinct was to put "dome" to Metrodome. Capitol and Cathedral are way more likely choices. Clue No. 5 from 1987, the last time it was at Indian Mounds Park, reads as such: "Whatever the season, this dome's a proud sight. And through many a wedding, it's been a delight." That's a little more obvious than this year's clue, but Mounds is the best bet so far. I'm moving my "people" in that direction. Greg Sax - 01:05am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#130 of 8457)
For those looking in Highland, I would stop wasting time, particularly if you're going with the use of "high ground" in Clue 2. They used all sorts of clues to get you to "Highland" in '94. I'm looking at the fact that they chose to put high with ground as to rhyme with Mound. With the "dome" clue out there now, it's easy to work your particular park into that angle. But Mounds is undeniably strong now. As Dave suggested, "lode" is defined as a waterway (Mississippi), which is another sealant for Mounds. So we need to go back to "Rosebud." I'm with the faction that believes it refers to what the medallion is hidden in or attached to. Small sled keychain? Name-brand product? Any help from the gallery? Talk to you when it's light out. Terri Gudim - 01:12am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#131 of 8457)
how about large object in view, to help guide you.. the airplane beacon in mounds?? just a thought Martin Erickson - 01:29am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#132 of 8457)
yea the mounds beacon.......maybe its hanging in a tree? cats meow - 03:12am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#133 of 8457)
The beacon tower (large object?) was erected in 1929 during the end of the Art "DECO" (literally Crack or Split the word "CODE" and rearrange) period which was marked chiefly by geometric motifs, curvelinear forms, sharply defined outlines and bold colors. The tower was restored as a historical landmark in 1995. The beacon was part of the system that "guided" airmail pilots of that era before there were reliable radio navigation signals available to pilots. As a flyer myself, the beacon has guided me nicely into St. Small and saved my rear at least once while flying under marginal VFR. Was there an hour ago and only noticed three cars parked and/or checking. Where are all the other maniacs? Will swoop up there again this wee am to move more under D-cell shine. Honk at me in the blue Volvo wagon. Dave VanHorn - 04:10am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#134 of 8457)
Why else would you throw two words like demo and mode in there, surely you don't need them specifically to help the clue rhyme - and appearing in the very line after mentioning a code to be cracked, almost right next to each other -too coincidental, too many other words to use there. Bring on the next clue, good luck someone! Wish I had a damn car this year. For now assume Rosebud means what the medallion is attatched to as usual in #3 or #4. Looks like Mounds, but never rule out the others, not until after clue 6 (usually...eh?...right?....I hope.... Colleen Chaput - 07:31am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#135 of 8457)
Where is the mounds park beacon? Is it in the park or where? Chris Swenke - 07:37am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#136 of 8457)
To whom it may concern:
REASONS FOR HIGHLAND PARK: My ramblings are confused but connected
I hope we can bring them together.
CLUE ONE: Obviously in a park, but maybe some thing else
to be gained from it at a later point.
CLUE TWO: In the Neighborhood are water and woods; Surrounded by homes and two watertowers and a water treatment facility. Woods can either mean golf or trees witch are both plentiful. High Ground: Highland park, and the two water treatment mounds.
CLUE THREE: "Rosebud" can mean three things, the container/attachment
or near a church/funeral parlor ("Rosebud" was a dieing word) both next to the park, the sled in the movie had "Rosebud" printed on it
hence a sledding area. Leaning toward container/attachment. Kids like to Zoom: Hockey arena at Highland Park.
CLUE FOUR: Large object(s) will help guide you, water towers at park are dome shape and are in view down a scenic path of woods that begin with a sledding area and hockey arena where kids go zoom.
Drop me a line for additions or contradictions by clicking the face to
the left. jane Morehouse - 07:41am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#137 of 8457)
yes it sets right in the park. I might be wrong but I think at the bottom of the park are the binokulars speeled wrong again . But my kids love to look out them and zoom in on the whole town Mr. Know It All - 08:25am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#138 of 8457)
Greg Sax, Washington H.S. 1970
(Deleted item originally posted by Mr. Know It All on 08:29am Jan 28, 1998 CST)KRasmussen - 08:30am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#140 of 8457)
Well the large dome could be the shelter. Duh! Gimpper did you find the clues yet? See you all tonight! Mr. Know It All - 08:36am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#141 of 8457)
CAT'S MEOW, GOOD RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!!! Big daddy pappa - 08:45am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#142 of 8457)
who da hell is dis mr. know it all. he thinks he gots all da anwsers but he don't know jack shit. if you want all da real answers you should ask me, da big daddy pappa. cause i gots all the right answers. Big daddy pappa - 08:48am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#143 of 8457)
and one more thing. i hate when people write in all capital letters. all ya gots ta do is press de caps lock button one more time gimpper. n.k.o.b. - 09:00am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#144 of 8457)
CATS MEOW, THANKS FOR THE INSIDER INFO. LOOK FOR A NATIVE AMERICAN REFERENCE IN TONIGHTS CLUE TO LOCK US IN. WITH LITTLE SNOW, THIS SHOULD GO QUICK. HAPPY HUNTING EVERYONE!!!!!!!!! Allie Go - 09:05am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#145 of 8457)
I say Mounds Park....I looked at my Hudson Map...."Where kids zoom," referring to "Childs Road." I think it's there. Greg Sax - 09:30am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#146 of 8457)
cats meow: now you're making this "Water Cooler" business worthwhile. Thanks for sharing your ideas. I still believe "dome" is the most important aspect of the clue, but "will help guide you" does aim digging efforts to the beacon. "Childs Road" is also clever but may be a bit of a reach. I'm not trying to cut on anyone though -- hey, I thought I had "Plato Blvd" out of the word "wise" a couple of years ago. SLEEPLESS GIMPER - 10:01am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#147 of 8457)
BIG DADDY PAPA----WHAT'S UP MAN OR WOMEN !! SINCE YOU HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS SPILL YOUR GUTTS!!
DO YOU THINK THE CAPITAL IS THE HIGH GROUND? Alex Moy - 10:12am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#148 of 8457)
Use the demo of the mode to crack their clue. How do you get mode from demo? Do that to lode and you have Delo(s) road, near Cherokee Park. Just a thought. CK1 - 10:17am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#149 of 8457)
Allie Go Thanks for the "Childs Road" -- I'll see you at Mounds.
Cats Meow You rock!
Chris Swenke It was good to meet you last night at Highland. Sorry, but I'm currently in the Mounds Park camp...It would be fun if your theory proved correct, however.
Jane Morehouse Good "Zoom" theory. (btw - how's that spelling working out for you?)
n.k.o.b, SLEEPLESS GIMPER Are you trying to egg on Big Daddy Pappa? Leah Gunter - 10:36am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#150 of 8457)
I think that he is just telling us that demo and mode are an example and that we have to look at mother lode to break up for the clue- any ideas - I'm thinking either Mounds or Highland - I still think that Rosebud has something to do with the sled in citizen cane. Paula - 10:42am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#151 of 8457)
The large object in view is the Capitol. CK1 - 11:18am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#152 of 8457)
"Mother Lode" anagrams:
do other elm
oh to red elm
horde to elm
Hey, it's just an idea..... Big daddy pappa - 11:30am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#153 of 8457)
yo gimper. how they hangin. i isa man. i aint no woman. youz needs to be specific on wacha wants to know. i aint gunna be givin all da answers out. youz just git your shuvle and ho out there and dig. its da only way youz gunna find it.
(Deleted item originally posted by CK1 on 11:34am Jan 28, 1998 CST)Colleen Chaput - 11:42am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#155 of 8457)
this is suppose to be a spot to discuss clues not a chat room Wright Winger - 12:09pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#156 of 8457)
99 YEAR OF THE COOLER
The zoom could also refer to kids on bikes, cuz I remember biking when I was younger at Mounds park and getting good speed on the bike pathes down the hills, but I spose kids could sled down the bike paths (if not shoveld) but it would be fairly close to Shepard Rd. The dome could also refer to one of many softball or golf domes in St. Paul, although I doubt it. I want to get out there and dig so bad but I'm too sick. Arrgh! Hope one of yous finds it if I dont get my butt out there. CK1 - 12:12pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#157 of 8457)
Colleen Chaput What are your feelings on the clues? Highland park? Mounds Park? Other? Go out on a limb and give us your theory (you can change your mind later on). I'm thinking Mounds -- all the clues point there: Childs Road (kids go zoom). Dome anagram (Capitol dome is in view). The Radio Tower (large object)...Granted these clues could apply elsewhere -- but these just seem to fit so nice....But then again, last year I was sure it was in Newell until the "Cuomo" clue... foolsbee - 12:23pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#158 of 8457)
think all of the rose clues point to roseville, kids zoom at the oval, across from central park, and there is a big rosebud Dave VanHorn - 12:30pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#159 of 8457)
I'm kinda curious to hear where people are looking, whether it is the right place or not, it's just always fun to know which parks people are at, or they see other people at. Binky - 12:42pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#160 of 8457)
It's not in Roseville. The first clue specifically states "in a St. Paul Park." Do you think they would lie??? Dan Reinhardt - 12:44pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#161 of 8457)
roseville ain't st paul. ya know Colleen Chaput - 12:45pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#162 of 8457)
ck1 I think mounds is the place but i'm heading over there this afternoon to check out what you can see from there. Also in clue number 1 it says wintry fun is that a miss print shouldnt it be wintery not sure. Mr. Know It All - 12:46pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#163 of 8457)
Just something to think about......(1st line 4th clue).He speaks of " a large object in view" and (second line 4th clue) "But first".....(last line 4th clue) "mother lode"...............could he be speaking of the first national bank?????????? probably not. Personal thought, Mounds Park see ya there!!!!!!!!!!!! Clara Just - 12:50pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#164 of 8457)
Anybody know any backround on the arlington softball fields on rice
street with the softball dome built on it? I know there is a police
station across the street. Any other notables in the area? n.k.o.b. - 01:10pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#165 of 8457)
DVanhorn: just got back from Mounds...a fair amount of activity there with 10 or so other diggers. All the usually stuff has been dug around.
MrKnow: Tantalizing views of First Bank lining up with the Cathedral Dome. I had the same thought.
CK1: Nice anagram work. I wouldn't know an elm if it fell on me.
Final note: Someone is going to step on this thing in snow like this, and its starting to melt. maybe it isn't buried.
(Deleted item originally posted by greg zentic on 01:13pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)Snowball2 - 01:15pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#167 of 8457)
CARLA JUST.. The Arlington fields was a thought in my head as well. Playing my frost-bite games there, we got jazzed when they built the dome. But what is the large visable object form there???? The Capitol? Let me know. Thanks!! R C - 01:17pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#168 of 8457)
Clara Just: Arlington softball fields are adjacent to railroad tracks, there's a big hill where kids like to slide, you can see
the post office, a car wash and Coffee Cup restaurant, I think. And
there's a Chinese restaurant near there too. It's between Rice Street and the tracks, and Arlington and Montana to the north & south.
I don't think it's beaver lake - that's not in St. Paul. Snowball2 - 01:19pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#169 of 8457)
Mode=Dome
Demo=Dome
2 domes visable from Mounds Park, The Capital and the Cathedral.
Also, good thought on the "No Bury" clause. Get out there and just look (no digging needed). Snowball2 - 01:21pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#170 of 8457)
RC>>> Thanks for the TIN CUP as a visible sign!!!!
(Deleted item originally posted by medaillion master on 01:28pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)medaillion master - 01:32pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#172 of 8457)
FLIPNAT:
hey has anyone thought of prospect park what can you see from there.
also rose ave runs into beaver lake park. how about a new park
this year.
see ya at prospect...... beaver lake???? foolsbee - 01:36pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#173 of 8457)
can someone tell me where mounds park is located? Mr. Know It All - 01:38pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#174 of 8457)
Since the onset of Arlington ballfields, every year that is the place I keep saying he will hide it prior to the hunt...........Again i'm thinking it's not there. Dave VanHorn - 01:48pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#175 of 8457)
Alex Moy - 10:12am Jan 28, 1998 CST (#148 of 174)
Use the demo of the mode to crack their clue. How do you get mode from demo? Do that to lode and
you have Delo(s) road, near Cherokee Park. Just a thought.
Someone did mention prospect park, nice view, small park though. Although if you follow alex moy's demo=mode then lode=delo(s) road, that runs right through the corner of prospect park. Just keeping everything in mind. Wouldn't think they would already hide it in Cherokee again since 1992. Just a thought, what if every clue was supposed to match in more than one park in the same area until the very end, when it is revealed it is in a small park like prospect, who knows, i doubt it though. Keep hunting, keep updating, and if someone on the water cooler here wins, ya gotta mention the Cooler! R C - 01:51pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#176 of 8457)
no, TIN CUPS isn't visible from Arlington Fields - it's COFFEE CUP.
Can someone tell me where Prospect Park is? Allen Jaques - 01:52pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#177 of 8457)
think it is at cherokee heights park or prospect terrace park. R C - 01:57pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#178 of 8457)
the dictionary describes the work "lode" as a vein of mineral ore - do you think "Prospect" would fit in here? Greg Sax - 01:58pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#179 of 8457)
The Arlington ballfields are officially known as "Rice & Arlington Field;" it's not a "Park." Prospect Park is in Minneapolis! That's a no-go. foolsbee: Mounds overlooks downtown and is on a bluff over the Mississippi; follow 94 or take E. 3rd St. from downtown to Mounds Blvd. But really, you can't do this hunt without a good map. Ask any longtime digger. Snowball2 - 02:01pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#180 of 8457)
RC Prospect Park is near Ohio Hill on the West Side. Prospect Blvd.
Foolsbee Mounds park is near Daytons Bluff. Between Mounds Blvd. and Warner Road. Parallel to the river, across from St. Paul Airport. cold toes2 - 02:02pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#181 of 8457)
just got back from mounds park, lots of maybe places to look. i always wonder when they hide it. there wasn't much snow until a few weeks ago. a few people looking by the cliffs, why would they put it some where dangerous, someone else showed me some dried roses they picked, i don't think they want us digging by rosebushes. i cann't wait for clue 5. see you all out there. Greg Sax - 02:09pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#182 of 8457)
Ohhh, "Prospect Terrace Park" ... not the one with the Witch Hat. This is an interesting idea. It's small, but so was Marydale, Newell, and Langford! Whatever contingent is out there, please keep the Water Cooler informed! Dave VanHorn - 02:15pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#183 of 8457)
Yeah still lean towards Mounds, unfortunately don't know it all to well. Prospect with an outside shot, I remember going there the year it was at Cherokee for about an hour, pretty small. Has anyone here actually bought or seen this book that was written with maps and key items and areas listed for every park? What do ya think of it? Greg Sax - 02:17pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#184 of 8457)
Again, I'm off a couple of blocks! I finally see the little corner of "Prospect Park" that Dave and Snowball2 are speaking of. How are the sightlines there? Certainly is high ground but can't imagine kids zooming there. "Prospect Terrace Park" has the climbable tower for nice views of the city, but that seems too dangerous an area for the inevitable swell of diggers. Snowball2 - 02:18pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#185 of 8457)
P.S. To Dave VanHorn's Note...Where did you get the book??
(Deleted item originally posted by R C on 02:19pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)Paula - 02:23pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#187 of 8457)
Rosebud is an American Indian tribe - Rosebud Sioux. Snowball2 - 02:24pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#188 of 8457)
Greg Sax THANKS for the kick in the head!!!!
DIGGERS- the Wabasha mines, the look out tower, and kids go zooming on thier bikes down Ohio, Wabasha, Concord hills!! Maybe I am reaching?? Let me know what you think?? Dave VanHorn - 02:24pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#189 of 8457)
I dont actually have it, I was looking for more info about it myself. Someone posted a day or two ago that you could get it from the hungry mind bookstore at grand and snelling. hey there mr. sax. Snowball2 - 02:26pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#190 of 8457)
Greg, sight lines to the capital (Dome) and the First Bank Building. Is there a ROSE street nearby??? R C - 02:29pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#191 of 8457)
snowball2: I think "rosebud" refers to the name of the sled - are there any sliding hills in prospect park? CK1 - 02:30pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#192 of 8457)
What if the "Kids" in "Kids zoom" referred to goats? They climb mountains, hills, bluffs, ... cold toes2 - 02:31pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#193 of 8457)
yes i have the book, my husband got it for me for Christmas. its at hungry mind for $8. its a pretty good book it has all{most, not all the small ones but i'm not sure we need them}the parks in St Paul.Ramsey county parks can be found in the 1994 guide Parks and Public Places in Ramsey County. Paula - 02:33pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#194 of 8457)
Indian Mounds Park is an ancient burial grounds for Dakota Chiefs. Rosebud is a Sioux tribe. There's no use hunting in any other park, the clues have been very specific. Allen Jaques - 02:40pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#195 of 8457)
Is there any hills at all in Prospect Terrace Park?
Can you spot the art Deco on the Dome of the Cathedral?
Is Prospect Terrace Park off of Delo(s) Street?
Is there water nearby the park?
Obvious high ground.
(Deleted item originally posted by Paula on 02:43pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)Snowball2 - 02:58pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#197 of 8457)
RC .. I don't remember people sliding in the park proper, but I know people who would slide on poorly plowed, low-traffic streets in that area.
CK1 .. Good pull on the KIDS as Goats, definately a clue to Daytons Bluff?
Allen Jaques .. Prospect overlooks The Mighty Miss, and it faces west twords downtown, Maybe you could see the Cathederal, I'm not possitive, but by geom. standards it's possible Allen Jaques - 03:02pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#198 of 8457)
Anybody in here like to start a chat room on AOL? R C - 03:05pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#199 of 8457)
The dictionary describes "zoom" as a low-pitched buzzing or humming sound. Does the radio tower at Mounds park make a sound like that? It also says to climb suddenly and sharply in an airplane - Mounds park is right by the St. Paul airport!
(Deleted item originally posted by Joe Medallion on 03:24pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)Pat Pfundstein - 03:26pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#201 of 8457)
Pat Pfundstein - If you see this, howdy from yours at Fortis! Any ideas?? XXXOO Deb Snowball2 - 03:27pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#202 of 8457)
Joe - Did you go zoom as a young child???? Elsinore - 03:36pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#203 of 8457)
If you use the demo-mode analogy, try "mother" instead of "lode". Hermot could be 'hermit'. Ring a bell with anyone?
BTW- I just came back from Mounds. about 40 groups now. Beavis - 03:37pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#204 of 8457)
Hey, the joe guy is right, they're not gonna give such obvious clues so early.
(Deleted item originally posted by Joe Medallion on 03:38pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)Dave VanHorn - 03:39pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#206 of 8457)
I think Joe went zoom alot as a child. All clues mean something and thats what this board is for - sharing ideas, even if they don't make a whole lot of sense (like Joe's). Pssst., Hey Joe thanks for calling us all idiots, where is your most recent contribution????...........
....thought so. Joe's email rmilles@eta.k12.mn.us.. Shall we all give one last bow down to the great one, Super Joe, for enlightening us all with his infinite wisdom.
(Deleted item originally posted by Dave VanHorn on 03:41pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)CK1 - 03:43pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#208 of 8457)
Joe You are right! We are idiots! Just look at last year -- they told us fairly quickly that it was at Como and...it ended up..at...Como...ok, bad example. But I'm sure you have one....
(Deleted item originally posted by Joe Medallion on 03:45pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)Joe Medallion - 03:46pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#210 of 8457)
How about when the clues first pointed to Fort Snelling and Hidden Falls last year(I'm talking about a time of history)? Joe Medallion - 03:48pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#211 of 8457)
Can anyone come up with a rearranged word for 'pursue'? steve worthma - 03:50pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#212 of 8457)
I'LL HAVE THE GUIDE BOOK AVAILABLE FOR SALE AT "THE PARK" BETWEEN 4:30 AND 5:30.
(Deleted item originally posted by Joe Medallion on 03:50pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)Joe Medallion - 03:53pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#214 of 8457)
Hey steve worthma, where exactly is "THE PARK?"
(Deleted item originally posted by Joe Medallion on 03:55pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)steve worthma - 03:55pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#216 of 8457)
Hey Joe Medallio, go to the Hungry Mind Book store and buy the book - then find me at "the park". CK1 - 03:56pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#217 of 8457)
Joe Hey, friend-
This Water Cooler is a friendly place. Sit back, refresh yourself, drink of the fount of Clue Guessing Knowledge. Let's leave the attitude (and the expletives) off the web. Pursue: pure us
pus rue
rue pus
rue sup
rue ups
rues up
ruse up
suer up
sup rue
sure up
up rues
up ruse
up suer
up sure
up user
ups rue
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user up R C - 03:56pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#218 of 8457)
Hey Joe - why don't you go through the last 100 messages and see what everyone think it means - we're not going to say it all again!
(Deleted item originally posted by Joe Medallion on 03:59pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)Joe Medallion - 04:01pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#220 of 8457)
Sorry if you have to write again, but does anybody have an idea of what the medallion's hidden in? R C - 04:01pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#221 of 8457)
Maybe if we ignore it - it will go away. Joe Medallion - 04:01pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#222 of 8457)
No I(or it) won't, stupid R C!
(Deleted item originally posted by Joe Medallion on 04:04pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)Joe Medallion - 04:05pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#224 of 8457)
Where are you now, R C?! Running to tell mommy?!
(Deleted item originally posted by Joe Medallion on 04:06pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)steve worthma - 04:06pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#226 of 8457)
ARE YOU ALL IN YOUR CARS ON YOUR WAY TO MEET ME AT "THE PARK"? SEE YA THERE. BRING YOUR $8. Wright Winger - 04:07pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#227 of 8457)
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The ideas about what its in is somewhere between 12 and 67. I hope this helps you JOE. The rest of us will move forward with new ideas. reed - 04:07pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#228 of 8457)
Joe I think you ate one to many RETARD SANDWITCHES. You need to lighten up.
I have to say I really agree with Paula it has to be at Mounds Park. Joe Medallion - 04:08pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#229 of 8457)
Learn how to use a spell-checker, Wright Winger!
(Deleted item originally posted by Joe Medallion on 04:10pm Jan 28, 1998 CST)William Anderson - 04:13pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#231 of 8457)
Maybe the capitol grounds, you can see two domes the capitol and cathedral. And didn't they have a big slide on Robert st. one year by the capitol? Clue #1 lucky one could be the big 1 on the first nat. bank. Maybe? Who knows. Paula - 04:14pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#232 of 8457)
reed - thank you. I have a very interesting lead, my husband and I are going out tonight, maybe we'll see you?? Joe Medallion - 04:15pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#233 of 8457)
Good thinking, William Anderson! I am not being sarcastic this time! Joe Medallion - 04:15pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#234 of 8457)
Hey Paula, what is this 'lead'? reed - 04:18pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#235 of 8457)
Paula,
I wont be able to make it out there. I was out there on my lunch break and there are Rose Bushes out there they just put them in last summer. Good luck hunting CK1 - 04:19pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#236 of 8457)
Paula- Good research on the Rosebud tribe. You going to be at Mounds? Reed, How about you? I think Cherokee might be worth checking out -- just to see who's there. Joe Medallion - 04:20pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#237 of 8457)
Where is everybody? Joe Medallion - 04:21pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#238 of 8457)
For the last time, it won't be at Como, Harriet Island, Battle Creek, Highland, or Hidden Falls parks! Wright Winger - 04:22pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#239 of 8457)
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How small or dangerous of a park is Prospect Terrace? because of the liabilitie of the paper to ravenous hunters. Crusher - 04:22pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#240 of 8457)
Anyone ever heard of Education Technology Alliance? heh? Lola Kemp - 04:28pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#241 of 8457)
Mr. Medallion- This WAS a nice place for us "sports" to get and share info. Why don't you and the horse you rode in on "log" off and the rest of us can get back to work being friendly and helpful! By the way, if you know where the medallion is it's worth giving up the $4,000 to see you go! Paula - 04:29pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#242 of 8457)
Joe, remarks like "I'm going to kill you" don't really cut it here or anywhere. If you continue to write abusive remarks towards people, I and others here will contact your school and have your email priviledges removed. It is very easy for the Pioneer Planet to trace your provider also, a detailed script shows exactly where you came from, down to the specific pc you are using. Terroristic threats are not tolerated here or any public site on the net. The Winter Carnival is fun. Searching is fun. Writing to others about something you have in common is fun. Your remarks are not fun to anyone but yourself. There are people in this forum from age 5 to 95, and we'd like to enjoy this once-a-year activity. CK1 - 04:34pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#243 of 8457)
wright winger At the risk of incurring more death threats from our angry colleague, Prospect Terrace is very small and would be very dangerous with the hundreds of ravenous diggers clamoring to find the lode. I can not imagine the Paper would open themselves up to any liability. Along with that, they probably wouldn't hide it in (or near) newly planted rose bushes (at Mounds).
PS -- Way to go, Paula! Paula - 04:36pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#244 of 8457)
My lead is on the net - a local site. I'm not sure, but I bet we will see clues that lead to local St. Paul sites, as they are trying to promote the Pioneer Planet and others. We have registered buttons - will join with a group to search if interested. Send email if interested. I also believe the "dome" is the capitol only and Child's Road is the overlook point. I think Rosebud refers to a Chief burried at the park - the clue being "the park as a location" and "burried" - but I sure wish it wasn't underground! We nearly froze to death last year out at Como. Greg Sax - 04:37pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#245 of 8457)
A bit of an aside (sorry): Does anyone have Clue No. 12 from last year? It was never posted on Pioneer Planet and I'd like to have it for my collection. E-mail it to me at saxx@execpc.com if you can help me. Thanks in advance. Chris Palmer - 04:40pm Jan 28, 1998 CST (#246 of 8457)
For what it is worth, looking at a map, Prospect Park is in the center of Water, Wood and Delos streets. It is quite a small park without great reserves of parking that this event seems to require and it offers no sledding options. It does offer views of both the Capital and Cathedral. Mounds Park seems to meet more of the requirements, assuming that the Rosebud and zoom clues must to refer to sledding. If they don't, the Native American reference is a good back-up. And Joe, if I have somehow offended you, I apologize. 
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